Looking back at Killzone 2 and what it did right

PS3Vault writes: "2009 has been a year packed full of amazing titles across all platforms, and as the year comes to a close, gamers are starting to make their picks for the "Game of the Year" categories. Early this year, the Playstation 3 was treated to the highly anticipated Killzone 2, a visually stunning and adrenaline fueled First Person Shooter. When KZ2 first came out, it was well received gaining a 91 on Metacritic, and to many fans instantly earned a spot in several GotY categories, such as best PS3 game, best graphics, best FPS and even GOTY. But as I was glancing over the various categories and nominations across the web, I began to see that KZ2's competition may be to much, Uncharted 2 and Modern Warfare 2 being the biggest obstacles. Both games are fantastic and certainly deserve any awards given to them, however I wanted to take a moment to look back at one of the years first heavy hitters to see what it did right."

[clixx33]

Good read...
Guerilla Games definitely beasted this game.

[mal_tez92]

The level of immersion in Killzone 2 is unmatched (especially with HUD turned off)

The feeling of the movement, aiming, shooting and surroundings made it the best FPS I've ever played. The cover system was also very nice and should now be standard in all FPS games.

The way the guns react when shooting make it a much more skillful game than Call of Duty with its arcade style shooting; skill being something I respect.

[bnaked]

Killzone 2 is the best Shooter of the year..

[Eamon]

I tried out Killzone 2 a couple of days ago, and I really didn't like it. I didn't like the controls, the over-shakey camera, and the gameplay itself. The graphics were immense, no doubt about that. I didn't like how when its time for shooting, you would be forced to stick in one location to take out enemies for a long time (something I didn't like in Halo 3: ODST)
Also, I hated the cover system. The cover system should have been just like every other FPS where you crouch or manually move yourself.

Although, I only played like 15 minutes. But please don't rape me for having an opinion.

[WildArmed]

aye. pretty much agree with everything on the list but the squad system. I like the Bad Company 2 squad system alot better.. spawn on anyone thats alive in your squad.. not just ur squad leader

[DaTruth]

It only does everything... right!

[Simon_Brezhnev]

i loved killzone 2 but it was the most hated ps3 exclusive in the media. i remember them 1up guys saying they hate how helgasts look saying they rather fight zombies and aliens lol.

[AAACE5]

I'll admit, Killzone 2 did some good things, but it just wasn't for me! I bought it and took it back 2 days later. To me it suffers from the same thing as Killzone 1 did... It just doesn't grab you and take you for a ride! For those who like it, i'm happy for you!

It sucks for me because Killzone 2 was the main reason I bought a Ps3! The only reason I waited so long to get it is because of that rumor on here about it getting dropped to $30!

[s8anicslayer]

His comment: "You guys might hate me for saying this
I tried out Killzone 2 a couple of days ago, and I really didn't like it. I didn't like the controls, the over-shakey camera, and the gameplay itself. The graphics were immense, no doubt about that. I didn't like how when its time for shooting, you would be forced to stick in one location to take out enemies for a long time (something I didn't like in Halo 3: ODST)
Also, I hated the cover system. The cover system should have been just like every other FPS where you crouch or manually move yourself.

Although, I only played like 15 minutes. But please don't rape me for having an opinion."

All from a guy with a MasterChief avatar; The Irony!

[Trebius]

Your Master Chief avatar says 'hello' by the way...

But anyway...if you played the game for only 15 minutes, your opinion doesnt matter...because that means you probably played the first few minutes of the first level and kept dying and convinced yourself the game was faulty because you sucked at it.

Why give an opinion on a game you didnt even bother to give a chance?

Stick with arcade shooters like CoD and Halo, obviously Killzone is too challenging for your feeble brain to grasp and be able to play.

God forbid you try to play online multiplayer, then you'd REALLY b!tch about how much the game sucks, cause you would get owned in a heartbeat.

Shaky camera...yeah ok...the first 10 minutes of the game are full of explosions and there IS some shakiness to emphasize the scope of the battle you just crash-landed on.

Go play your Gears of War, because I bet THAT game's shaky cam and horrible Tank-like controls are a GODsend compared to KZ2 right?

haha

[sikbeta]

KZ2 did everything right, but then whiners started to bash it because it wasn't like teh CODz and because it didn't have Co-op mode

Really Amazing Game, KZ3 with Co-op will be BEAST!

[blackpanther25]

I feel they should have really had a true pre-game lobby so that you could invite your friends and they should have had a quick-play(play now) where the game searches for a good match for you. In essence if they did it just like Resistance 2(it was dedicated servers as well i believe)it would have been great but it took way too long to patch in join friends game and invite friends.

My friends were all on R2 playing together but killzone kinda made it hard to play together at first(if you weren't in the same clan together)

But hey Killzone 3 will be insane because they can probably take uncharted 2's pre-game lobby code (or get help from them) and use it because they are both owned by sony

[Lifendz]

and didn't get the game because of that, then hey, I cna't fault you. I wasn't a huge fan of the controls at first either. You really have to play the game for some time before they grow on you but once they do, you'll appreciate them. Going back to COD after this was really weird. Killzone was a simulation. If you've ever held a rifle you know there's some kick. If rifles handled like they do in COD then just about everyone would qualify as an expert on the range.

KZ2's graphics, multiplayer, soundtrack, AI, and story were awesome. For KZ3 I want Rico gone and some environments that are luscious jungle type areas.

[edgeofblade]

I'll save you the trouble and just suggest the PS3 fanboys click disagree. Because that's your typical reaction to anything negative about Killzone 2, even if it came from someone who had a reasonably good time playing it. Still, I'm not going to laud and applaud a game that didn't deserve the massive amount of praise it's getting. Any realistic praise I could give it has already been drowned out several times over by the blind fanboy factor.

It was good. It wasn't OMG,thisisthebestshitevear!

@blackpanther: Why did you buy two? Are you trying to prove something?

[elpresador]

....work on the single player. I mean the plot was crap. the characters were as 1 dimensional/cardboard you could get (look at rico), the voice acting was overdone, and the script with swearing every other word for no reason then to swear (i get in while in a firefigh but while just walking around?) made the single player not that great. Add in that with the the harder difficulty there were more than one point where it felt more like that enemies just kept coming as opposed to fighting smarter.

Simply put, half the game was great (multi) half needs work (single player)

[ThanatosDMC]

Those people that buy two copies of that game. The other copy is usually for their significant other or for another family member. I always buy two games if it's great or has co-op. Yeah, it's expensive!

[D4RkNIKON]

In my opinion, KILLZONE2 can't be touched by other FPS this year. The Graphics, guns, squad system, ACTUAL F*CKING CLAN SYSTEM!, Online game modes and more. I loved how the game types switch in game and run through all of them instead of like COD makes you pick one just one game type. Also COD has a joke of a clan system that doesn't hold a candle to KZ2.

[Nikuma]

I loved KZ2 and it is an amazing game but there is definitely some things they could work on for the next one. Mainly with the single player campaign. The vehicle sequences need some work... it seemed like the tank part was just thrown in there just to have it. You couldn't really go anywhere in the tank so all you really did was sit there and blast stuff for a min.

I'm all for some variety and while the tank and mech suit were "okay" I certainly think they could amp it up by a good margin. I remember towards the end of the game when you jump into a dune buggy type ride with a mounted gun and you're thinking "ok cool an on rails part" but it never happened.

I look at a single player campaign like Half life 2, and then look at KZ2 and it just doesn't measure up in terms of shear fun, and variety. Killzone2 is probably one of my favorite FPS games(mostly due to the MP) but I think they can really amp up the SP and truly make it epic. GG has everything they need to making a blowout blockbuster game.. then just need to tweak some things IMO.

[Eamon]

@s8anicslayer: So if I had a display picture of Nathan Drake, what would you have said instead? Just to let you know, I've had this avatar since around Halo 3's release.

@Trebius: Seriously, judging from your comment, you must be one really sad guy and take games way too seriously (probably more serious than life). The way you replied sounded like I insulted your mother lol.

*"because that means you probably played the first few minutes of the first level and kept dying and convinced yourself the game was faulty because you sucked at it."*
^ LOL, look at the excuses you are coming up with. That I kept on dying and convinced myself ROFL. You have no idea how I played so what area in your a55 did you come out with this?

*"Why give an opinion on a game you didnt even bother to give a chance?"*
^ I did give it a chance, hence why I played 15 minutes and not 1 minute of 5 minutes. Unless you mean 'many hours' by giving a chance. Gosh =O

*"Killzone is too challenging for your feeble brain to grasp and be able to play."*
^ Sounds to me like I broke your heart or something when I criticised your mother-oh wait I mean your game. -__-

*"Shaky camera...yeah ok...the first 10 minutes of the game are full of explosions"*
^ I didn't mean shakiness because of explosions. I mean the constant shakiness when you are running/walking or when aiming a gun or shooting.

*"Go play your Gears of War, because I bet THAT game's shaky cam and horrible Tank-like controls are a GODsend compared to KZ2 right?"*
^ Gears of War didnt have a shaky cam when you are simply walking. Also, GoW is a 3rd person shooter, so if the camera was shaky even in 3rd person, then the game would have been horrible.

So Trebius, you've just made me waste 5 minutes here, answering your sad comment. You need to understand that everyone has their own opinions and stop getting emotional on the internet. Remember, PS3 is not God... or your mother (LOL).

[talltony]

Mw2 is the biggest let down which is why i would rather play a game where the killing looks real and the dedicated servers are big. :) Now I can say that killzone 2 is underrated cause everyone that disses probably tried it for one sec and returned it which is a shame.

[BattleAxe]

Just to respond to a couple of things.... 1.If you don't like the cover system then don't use it, because you can still crouch and move around (you couldn't figure that out?lol) and 2. When you go to play a game do you ever go to the controls section of the menu to see what the different configurations are? They actually have a controller setup like CoD.

Anyways, if you're a HALO player then I think that Resistance 2 would be more your type of game. Playing a game for 15 minutes isn't really giving it much of a chance though or enough time to actually give a solid opinion of a game.

[Arnon]

It wasn't a bad shooter. I walked away from it with like 68-72% of the trophies. It wasn't something spectacular, as I found moments of the game to be incredibly repetitive and dull. The script needs work. Character development is somewhat dull, and voice acting is terrible. The cover system was also completely pointless. It basically used what every other shooter has (which is just running to a wall and hiding) and added the ability to lean on them, at the expense of not being able to move. It's not a bad feature to have, but I guarantee you that you could accomplish a lot more by just standing behind the wall and running out for a bit and shooting instead of attaching yourself to it.

Multiplayer was fun for about a week, simply because after a weeks gameplay, you pretty much have everything including all of the 10 ranks in the game (sad that there's only 10 in the game). Everything else is basically medals to help you level up, which you don't need, because gaining rank 10 can be done in about 3 days. Then (and yes I know there's DLC, but still) you only have 8 maps out of the box, and before the DLC was released, I played through each one a good 20+ times.

Again, it really wasn't a bad game, but it most certainly wasn't an amazingly spectacular game. In my eyes, it's pretty much paved the way for Killzone 3 to be the game to blow my mind (in something other than graphics).

[ViciousBoston]

I think that you guys are being unfare to the gentleman who has a MasterChief avatar. Personally I loathe the Xbox because of what it represents and their business practices but honestly if he played it and didn't like it, thats him. In my opinion though 15 minuites isn't a solid sample size. You never got to experience the story and how it really puts you in the war and you feel like you're turning the tides. I enjoyed that aspect the most out of Killzone 2, you playing ctually feels like you yourself are turning the tides.

[Eamon]

@Battleaxe & VisciousBoston

Now that I think about it again, maybe 15 minutes wasn't enough time. But developers should understand that the first 15 minutes is important in selling a game. Mass Effect really sucked at the beginning and put off a lot of potential buyers.

Also, I did manage to find the custom control scheme thingy. But what were Guerrila Games thinking about by making R3 as 'Aim' button?
Anyway, on your suggestion Battleaxe, I might try out Resistance 2.

[CLANCY BROWN]

KILLZONE2 may be great looking, and works to a certain extent. I for one feel the game is quite standard, quite generic in its game play. It just feels ho hum.I feel that it is missing the fun factor.It is just not that fun to play. but I will say it looks amazing, and I think it looks better than the cartoony UC2.

[UnSelf]

Things wrong wit KZ2: Voice acting, voice synching, pre game lobby, squad system, spawn points

Things right wit KZ2: Controls, Gfx, Sound, Weight, Immersion, Fidelity, Storyline, exclusivity, remarkable for an entry title (on nxt gen systems), tons of replay value

[ico92]

killzone 2 had superb level desingn, extremley powerful weapons (isa rifle anyone) some intense set peice battkles, and an incredible atmosphere helped out by powerful audio visual design also the graphics were amazing ,super controls, i know alot of the COD noobs (EDGE) arn't used to games without an auto aim but to me they were perfect it adds immersion, and challenge ,very deep multiplayer.
but the game had its problems the characters and story let down an otherwise superb concept, towards the end of the game it starts to get interesting but the characters are so underdeveloped for you to care about them, also a co-op mode like uin resisistance 2 couldnt have suited a better game, some weapons were extremley overpowerd (isa assault rifle) its so easy to land headshots its a joke. but other than that the game was great

[kwicksandz]

the thing i think the game did right was online match joining. being able to search from a region filter and an individual game filter should be in every game of every genre imo

As for the gameplay, i feel the clumsy controls and douchey characters hurt the campagin. if they could just make the controls responsive and kill off sev's Dbag squadmate the series would be better for it. and give sev some high heels cause hes one short mofo.

Actual MP gameplay was a good concept but flawed execution. Spawn camping, unbalanced weapons and a punitive unlock system work against it. Rockets on radec academy gets old reeeaaaallly fast but that seems like the only thing people want to play =( Pick up a few more concepts from TF2s almost perfectly balanced gameplay guerilla!

[elpresador]

...I mean you are never even told why you are invading Helghan for god sake. Also, basically the only thing with plot is, we send you to a planet, wrk your way to the main builiding and take the leader bad guy under arrest.

Thats it. There is nothing deeper than that. I mean come on. You feel no real sense that you are actually doing anything while you are on the ground and then you end up getting Visari for no other reason then being the last squad left at the end of the game.

They barely even make ANY kind of refference to what happened in part 1 whch, since this is NOT like the Final Fantasy series (being episodic that is) had the story/writing been better there would be something to tie the 2 together yet nothing is there.

Sorry for the rant but to say KZ2 had a good story to me means that you dont expect much story wise from a game.

[jav0918]

The game was amazing graphically played the first level never played again....it didn't grab me like uncharted 1 and 2 did...even ratchet and clank grabbed me 10x more than KZ2 did. I actually felt like I wanted to beat those games. Bought my PS3 in October got Uncharted 1-2 all 3 Ratchet and clank games and the god of war collection and blew right threw them man those are some amazing games but KZ2 just didn't grab me and rape my pleasure center...maybe I'm sick of the shooters or maybe I'm just retarded. I am prepared to lose the rest of my bubbles...take them now.

[cyberwaffles]

i agreed with everything except the soundtrack. i thought some segments of the game would've been better without music just like in KZ1. sometimes the gun shooting and chaos builds an ambiance that you just can't match with a soundtrack. other than that, some of the material was john william's caliber and pretty solid.

[Darkstorn]

Killzone 2 still has the best graphics on console (in my opinion...), so that must mean they did SOMETHING right...
The gameplay was awesome as well :D

[Tanny92225]

"Sounds to me like I broke your heart or something when I criticised your mother-oh wait I mean your game. -__- "

lmfao win.

[Tanny92225]

Like most games these days, to fully get the story you have to have played the previous games in the series (in this case killzone 1). While killzone 1 was laggy, boring, and pretty much broken, it actually had a pretty good story. And if you were like me and rented the game before killzone 2 came out, you would know the story.

2 Years ago I bought a 360 just so i could play halo and gears 2 (having beaten the crap out of gears 1 at a friend's house and loved it). But where is the story in these games? I never played halo 1 or 2 so i had no idea wtf was going on when i woke up as master chief in a random jungle and then found myself fighting through different areas, not being told why, and then getting to the epic warthog scene on halo. After I landed on that space ship, and saw the war memorial thing i was like "wow, that ending was epic. but wait, wtf did that have to do with anything?".

Same thing with gears 2, you know nothing about the story until the last couple hours of the game and then you blow up a brumak, watch some of the crapiest water effects ever, and then listen to marcus' dad say that his son f*cked up. I was just like "wtf."

[Sarcasm]

This article makes me want to play Killzone 2 again. All good and fair points. The only true criticism of the game was the controls.

[littletad]

Purely over the controls. I'm sure others thought it was realistic, the sensitivity. And that's okay, but not when your playing a video game. Everything else, was pretty spot on. The graphics were and still are unmatched. The death physics of the AI was a sight to see each time. I also agree the cover system should be implemented in other fps.

So why did I trade it in? Cause you can have a great game, but if the controls are clunky, how on earth can you enjoy it? I was never able to beat the last level, purely because of the sensitivity. Not my skill. Maybe they changed it in an update, I never really checked. So I'll get it again.

[talltony]

So you traded kz2 before the high precision mode patch was released? Well that was a mistake. I hated kz2 before they fixed the controls and now I am playing it over the noobfest that is mw2.

[Xgamerzus]

The next game they make will surely Devastate the FPS clones out there!!
THis game had some moments of sheer awe CGI hollywood level effects and this is just a first gen game on PS3!!!!!

i hope the approach the next with more massive battles massive MECHS and Mech on Mech or versus robots and such that this game deserves im dying to the how far can this engine go!!!

[littletad]

We'll I had no idea they would release a patch after all. Now I do, so I'll be happy to buy it again. At a better price too.

[talltony]

Ok your right no way of knowing. That's why I think most people returned it back then.

[Bungie]

grafix

that's pretty much it

[Darkeyes]

Sadly Bungie doesn't even qualify in that category.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Sadly neither the ideas, the same old generic run & pew pew power ranger shooter...

Bungie is overrated they should think outside the box & come with new games.

[Karooo]

you haven't even played it, clan system is one of the best in the world, gun modeling is superb, hit detection online is awesome, 32 player dedicated servers, noobs find it tough because of the realistic controls, I totally love this game.

go back to ur causal game halo noob.

[chidori666]

lol

this guy have 7 bubbles? mult acounts humm..

[yoghurt]

Still one of the best FPS games Ive played

technically THE best, only BFBC2 is proving as fun at the moment - but then we have KZ3 on the horizon.....

[Tru_Blu]

Should be epic again. It's just a few guys left and a massive reinforcement just arrived. I almost hope they wait till the PS4 to drop that. KZ2 can't get much better can it?

EDIT: this somehow got put under the wrong comment I was responding to but still.

[vrc]

This is the best multiplayer console FPS I've played, hands down. Kudos to the author.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Same here, Warfare + Blood Gratchet = FTW!

[gijsbrecht]

I agree with all the points that are being made; a good list. To be honest, I still do not see any other game to this date that combines this kind of level of graphics ( which also includes lighting, particals and such), visceral gameplay and intelligent enemy AI in one pacakage. Even UC2, which I love to death, doesn't seem yo have that level of AI and hit response as KZ2 does for instance.
I can only imagine that after the refinement the engine is going through right now, the game will even get more impressive. KZ2 was definitely one of the highlights for me this year.

[dalibor]

Some people may not believe you but I have played the game myself & have witnessed it's beauty. I don't even need to believe you because I have experienced it myself. I am a witness to greatness. Hopefully it will flourish with Killzone 3.

[elpresador]

...when a developer is using basically what, 4 colors max it is easy to make things look great. Ill be impressed if/when they have an outdoor level that isnt full of sand and gray buildings.

[skwidd]

What's so special about using more color? I always prefer a minimal color palette. More color doesn't mean better looking. Ever watched the movie Amelie? Limited color palette. It's actually very sophisticated and hard to do because you need more shades of those colors and being more particular. Just like lighting a B&W movie is very difficult.

[Halo_Reach]

They will never get at Bungie Level!

They and no one , Bungie is simply the best doing FPS!

[gijsbrecht]

Always commenting on a game you are not able to play. Why all this hate?

[OmarJA-N4G]

Meh i think even the bots can dream sometimes.

[ZombieAutopsy]

"They and no one , Bungie is simply the best doing FPS!"

you cut short what you should of said, it should of been "They and no one , Bungie is simply the best doing kiddie FPS games for noobs!

@below
my bad but its not like the bot can even read, he prolly has his mommy type for him.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

ZombieAutopsy - I agree with you, but it's "should have", not "should of".

We say it "should of" in spoken word though, so I understand. : )

[Chubear]

I feel sorry for the millions MS has tricked into believing Halo is some sort of Mecca for FPSs when in reality it is a very normal, average gaming experience.

[sugatmahanti]

It did lot of things right....really good A.I, top notch graphics and one of the best death animations i have seen till date in fps...awesome atmosphere..and not to forget .innovative first person cover..

[LeShin]

...because I'm STILL playing it!! Brilliant game!!

[dalibor]

I like games where you can revive downed players for some reason. I also liked the controls because everytime I got a kill I felt like I had to earn it. Over all a great game that is fun. What would you guys like to see in Killzone 3 though? I hope that there are a lot more weapons & classes to choose from (every fps game could use more weapons) & that there are more types of matches online. It would be cool if there was a match where you could use that mech warrior like in the campaign to change up the pace. A survival game type would be nasty too. With unlimited waves of enemies & it would record the highest wave you have gotten to with other people. Lastly co-op would be nice as well.

[Unicron]

I'd like to see better class balancing and less players. The levels are brilliantly designed but have too many people choking doorways.

[Noctis Aftermath]

The level design for radec academy MP is unbalanced, it's better to be ISA because the helgast starting area is like a bottleneck.

[Nikuma]

I enjoyed most of the KZ2 maps, but I do have to say they could use some work. Some maps had to many choke points that funneled players into it and caused a huge mess. I like it when there are lots of options for traversing a map. I like to sneak around the enemy and catch them by surprise at their back, but when there are only few routes to get across a map with choke points littered throughout.... it makes it tough. :P

I'm loving the BFBC2 Beta map. So many options when traversing that map. :)

[TwistedMetal]

I say this becuase it feels so much different then other fps that just feel like all the other fps that have been on pc from the early 2000's. killzone 2 made you feel like you were actually in a warzone and i loved everything about it. the Cod series no matter what kind of xp system they have just felt like a standard fps that I played before on pc a while ago. resistance was anothere fps that was just different from othere fps. I mean the gunplay in that is crazy as you have offense and defensive wepons that are crazy. Its like a fighting game but your not fighting your useing guns lol. its crazy how you can combo wepons and shots and whatnot to bring someone down. I have had some intense moments where me and otheres have exchanged fire back and forth for 20-30 seconds becuase of the defense aspect of the game. Both of these shooters are exceptional. The pure gameplay and feel of killzone 2 beats the gameplay and feel of cod series I feel.

[arakouftaian]

KILLZONE2 is for me The Best of the Best
its just the best in everything

[MetalGearRising]

KillZone 2 was a FLOP that's all Brink is what KillZone 2 should have been.

[Karooo]

brink look likes borderlands, it only has the killzone 2 shooting mechanics, dumb bot.

killzone 2 got 9 reviews everywhere and sold 2 million, its far from flop, all the 360 games except gears are flop.

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IRRELEVANT4LI4E

[saint_john_paul_ii]

i dont know whats sadder, him trolling n4g, or people agreeing with this retard.

[The real killer]

Brink is not Killzone 2 and sure not like Killzone and won't even close to killzone.

[pixelsword]

it fulfilled every wild requirement placed on it and it exceeded it.

- Great Graphics, overall the best of FPS that I've seen/experienced

- Really great AI for enemies and allies

- Solid gameplay

- Solid framerate

- Hit detection is best of any game I've played, ever.

- particles exceed just about any game I can think of on any system/console

- lighting is top notch

- destructibility/fragments are awesome

- bullet-holes are full-3d and not some pock-mark

- The first FPS that had a full cover system

- SIXAXIS on the sniper-rifle made it the most interactive/realistic gunplay on a sniper rifle ever

- level design and backgrounds put top-notch games to shame.

- Multiplayer can be designed around several modes depending on your liking

- unlockables are pretty great and not over burdensome

This game is too good to be forgotten.

[dalibor]

"SIXAXIS on the sniper-rifle made it the most interactive/realistic gunplay on a sniper rifle ever".

I remember when people were saying that K2 did not bring anything new to the fps genre, it was just a generic shooter but the fact of the matter is imo I really thought that this implementation for a sniper rifle was cool & caught me off guard.

[mauleriscool]

I tried to like this game but the controls when the game came out were awful. I'm about precision, responsiveness, and quickness in which killzone2 did not have at the start.
I'm gonna try it again if gamefly ever sends it out

[Brock Danger]

The controls are a little different, I don't really remember a massive fix or something, it just took some getting used to. And it played real damn well, would've stuck with it if my circle of friends were on PS3.

Honestly, it's the best MP i've played on this generation of consoles, but i do disagree with a lot of the points of this article. The AI isn't any different or intelligent, the cover is interesting but not revolutionary or ultimately necessary (which the MP proved), and the whole SP is pretty by the numbers.

Having said that, it's an amazing game, definitely a must play for this generation, if for the MP alone.

EDIT: When i say best MP, i'm saying that being stuck in the quagmire of MW2, which is really not that great if you're the type of person that prefers Battlefield. I must mention that 1943 is awesome as well, can't wait for BF:BC2.

[mastiffchild]

I think, with the benefit of hindsight(as at the time I was livid and still get that way when people continue to cry about the controls not being like Halo or COD), that people really should have just either tried the controls for longer or just conceded that they prefer other games-it's something we all come across, isn't it, a game that just isn't really for us. But instead the controls were "broken" and "retarded" and "slow" to these people and GG, foolishly issued a patch that watered the weighty, skill requiring controls down(if you wished)and lost a lot of what made KZ2 a more hardcore game and more individual as an experience.

I guess there's a thing among gamers(witness the clamour for remakes of FF7, OoT or the fact we buy practically the same game every year in franchises like COD, FIFA or Maddens)that we really want more of th same-who could honestly say Halo has been moved forward a great deal since CE? It's now time for us to embrace the fact that not every game will be for us and leave them for those that enjoy them the way they are. If you don't like the controls, fine, don't play it. If it isn't for you move on-play something that is but don't continue the trend towards homogenising every game into a generic, samey experience. There's room for way more in the FPS world than Halo and COD and the aim assisted pick up and play squad. I love Halo but I also loved the Killzone2 beta and Warhawk and Socom-games with a longer learning curve. We NEED different games and making FF change what made KZ2 great and different was weak, sad and an indication of a strange desire to learn nothing new and a lack of patience. Seriously, there are other games they could have played without trying to wreck KZ2.

[ThanatosDMC]

Warhawk had a steep learning curve to be king of the skies. I can kill anybody now 1 on 2. 1 on 3 gets trickier though. More than 4 is a hit and hide unless they suck then it's a killing spree.

[BattleAxe]

Theres a control layout that they brought a month after the game released that is alot like CoD.

[Linzoid]

As so many have already said there is a COD style control layout!!

Also stop complaining about it being slow just because COD is unrealistically fast! You're wearing heavy armour and carrying a heavy gun, you're not going to be running aroung like a 100m sprinter!

[WLPowell]

My friend was playing it and he was using the sniper and he was trying to just aim with the joysticks. I told him to use the sixaxis, He didn't say it out loud but I could see him thinking "OMFG!" just from his facial expression. I've seen that "OMFG" face more from people playing KZ2 than any other game this gen.

[Mr Tretton]

My time spent of KZ2 MP, 223:47:52

[Redempteur]

you obviously haven't played enough ..

[vrc]

Pfft. Noob.

[thereapersson]

And STILL, the haters threw as much FUD as they could at the game. Meanwhile, media outlets everywhere tried to push the game as far off the radar as possible in favor of crap like Modern Warfare 2. To me, if it weren't for Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 would have easily deserved GOTY.

[TooTall19]

Both are great games, but for me Killzone 2 met my high expectations while Uncharted 2 fell short. Off topic: I hope in KZ3 we get to have a story mode for the Helghast and a different HUDS for higs and ISA. In mp I would like to see a mode where it's a mix of Free for All and Team Deathmatch. After you die you get placed on the team that's winning/losing depending on your k/d ratio. Individuals in the top half count as a win.

[rob6021]

The game is and was the greatest threat to Microsoft's crown Jewel, Halo. You know Microsoft isn't going to just sit by and let everyone say they loved the game. And 'gasp' acknowledge it's better than Halo3.

[chase167]

COD MW2 = CAMPER ON DUTY OF THE YEAR

[Brock Danger]

Yea, MW2 kinda sucks. It's the same thing on every map - too fast, too loose, not much strategy. Not like games like KZ2 or any of the Battlefields.

[redsquad]

As much as I love UNCHARTED 2, I still play KILLZONE 2 more. Yes, for polish and overall quality I reckon the Naughty Dog title is GOTY and is ultimately "better", but by gum it's a close call for me.
I don't see a time when I'm not playing KZ2 at least a couple of times a week for quite a while yet, so I reckon Guerilla did a LOT of things right.

[stonecold1]

was the best fps this gen and i was suprised how in the graphics were 05 trailor even surpass it i thought good work guirella games cant wait for killzone 3

[gamingisnotacrime]

and after playing the likes of Uncharted 2 and other 2009 heavy hitters, i am shocked by the Quality of KZ2, the visuals, the animation, AAA title that got nip tick by media fools and down play as much as possible. The title is second to none, and it just a demostration for what KZ3 will be able to do, and that is exciting. Kudos to GG, excellent game, campaign is action packed and the online is intense. Great Great game

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Killzone 2 is possibly the most over rated game of all time. Seriously, it's the same dark war shooter that we been playing for years. The same dark war torn streets. The game has zero personality. The enemy with the black coats and red eyes looks like they were designed by children. They all look the same. Where is the creativity? The AI is a joke. Just look at this.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

This guy takes out almost everybody with just a knife in the last level of the game which should be the hardest. Than he beats the last guy by just charging without even trying to cover. Plus we still have enemy AI that stands right next to red exploding barrels? Characters are boring. Nobody that sticks out and can become an icon for the series. The weapons are pretty basic and boring. They all pretty much do the same thing. The story is pretty boring and cliche. All that political ranting by Visari is silly. Talk about the worse ending in a FPS. And of course, the worse gameplay yet in a FPS. The sluggish control is just plain horrible. No wonder the game didn't sell well. Sorry man, but this game isn't as great as you guys make it sound.

[wxer]

lol
this guy really loves Killzone tho he didnt play it

i see him in all killzone related articles saying the same thing

"Killzone 2 is possibly the most over rated game of all time. Seriously"

lol sorry thats HALO

about that vid
difficulty level
thats all

try to play the game your self first
i did on normal (cant remember the difficulty level's name) and i died there alot of times at that same level

look ive owned your ass once
about the same topic
dont make me repost that

or you know what
here you go
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[thereapersson]

lol @ MLG Pro

I wish they would enable knife throwing in Killzone 2; hitting a guy from halfway across a level, over a building is sure realistic if you ask me!

/s

[Tru_Blu]

Yet I beat armor piercing on MW2 by standing by a staircase waiting for the juggernauts to walk down it. That is SO much better huh? Actually you can beat any spec ops mission by waiting by a staircase and picking them off as they come down. MW2 FTW. Oh and the knife thing, lol high explosives can be beat with one guy laying down/reviving and the other guy knifing.

This is the second to last Spec op mission... OH so hard :)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Glitch ass MW2 isn't even in the same league.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Your the one that thinks the word cliche means glitches??? LMAO... Man, that was the best laugh I had on here. Thanks buddy. :) Everybody check out the link he posted and have yourself a good laugh.

BTW, your reply to my comment on your link was an epic fail.

[CaptainPunch]

Are you that much of a loser to be wasting your time making childish remarks about ps3 games? Tell me have you ever played kz2? How could you possibly assume kz2 sucks? BTW how is it that you still have 5 bubbles? GTFO Troll! Killzone 2 was a great game

[Why o why]

he rates npd over real games so let him be.

if it acts like a juvenile and makes comments like a juvenile.....its a juvenille and will be treated like one. You've not played the game so PLEASE STFU with a halo cherry on top:)

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

You guys can go ahead and throw your juvenile name calling. I understand that you can't take constructive criticism. The fact remains that this game was hyped to sell at the level of Halo, Gears, and MW numbers and it didn't. It sold at an average rate. 2 million sold is about right for your average shooter. So tell me??? Why didn't it sell well??? I'll tell you, because it's just not that good. The control is plain and simple... AWFUL. The majority of people that purchased the game complain about it and forced GG to release a patch to try to correct the problem. In the end, it just didn't reach the hype. Hell, it didn't even get a nominee for GOTY from VGA awards. That says volumes right there. I understand sony fanboys won't be able to comprehend this but the facts are all there. Continue with your name calling. That's all your good for.

Goodnight all. :)

[Tru_Blu]

no auto-aim, what were they thinking?

Also if KZ2 dropped in say November, I bet it would get talk. It's just been so long since it did drop.

[peeps]

"It sold at an average rate. 2 million sold is about right for your average shooter"

what other average shooter sells 2 mil? 2 mil is a fair ammount tbh

[thereapersson]

We get the fact you don't like the game. That's all fine and dandy, ok? So don't get pissed off when you come into an article with the sole purpose of trolling it, and you receive a bunch of flak from everyone else who actually DOES enjoy the game and have come to enjoy a worthwhile article for once around this place. I'm sorry you can't grasp the fact that this game doesn't have auto-aim, along with every other person who came along expecting more of the same arcade-like, aim-assist action that Call of Duty has to offer. Unfortunately, GG fell victim to the complaints because people are too lazy to adjust to anything different.

By the way, hiding trolling behind the guise of "constructive criticism" isn't fooling anyone -- especially because you seem to have no idea what that term even means, based off your extremely disparaging remarks and animosity towards the title.

[Brock Danger]

Jesus christ, dude.

Your retort was to spout sales? And you throw out the gray/space marine cliche? I think Gears and Killzone have proven there' some mileage left for the space marine genre that doom can't back up. And sales number don't make a game great. Halo 2 sucked (3 was definitely better, MP much more like the original). But Gears on the other hand, total kickass. I wish you wouldn't sully such a fun game by bringing it up in a completely unrelated KZ article.

[hulk_bash1987]

I seem to remember Halo 2 and 3 having explosive barrels as well. The distinctive look of the Helgasts are indeed iconic and memorable. I do however agree that most weapons are standard fair, but the same can be said about Halo 3 weapons with the exception of a few. As I recall Halo 2 and 3's endings are pretty lackluster as well. So please enlighten me as to why you feel Killzone 2 is any less of a great experience as Halo 3?

[IntelligentAj]

Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me but did he say that 2 million sales is about right for an average shooter? Is he serious? Since when is 2 million copies sold not a large number? I understand you don't like the game but at least try to stay with some kind of logic...

[ultimolu]

Your trolling knows no bounds, does it?

[badz149]

you're a stupid troll and does not even belong in this article! this is an article about what KZ2 does right but you're trolling saying it sucks here and there and then spewing about sales and then Halo? go away TROLL! the open zone is welcoming your kind with open arms! welcome to my ignore list! I'm sick of you trolling in here on everything PS3 related all day long! you enjoy your Halo3? fine, but don't come in here trying to spoil the fun other people is having with other games not halo! I'm not into halo from the beginning (bought Halo CE for PC but never bothered to finish it!) but I respect those who do! how about you doing the same? I guess that's pointless because you're too hardcore of a troll you won't understand!

[mastiffchild]

MLG pro is really pushing his one man crusade against a game he hasn't played at all-why, fella, why? does it threaten you in some way? Do you think all games should be like Halo? And as for enemies that seem designed by children, are you serious? Mush of the criticism of Halo is a fair dig at the crayola coloured pixies you fight in those games, is it not? Conversely, the Helghast have one overarching aesthetic designed to show them as space bound Bazis. It's a clever way of making us feel at ease when we shoot so damn many andthe different classes are as varied to look at as they were in the 3rd Reich. In fact I'd argue that the light and shade, and ambiguity over who's actually the bad guys is leagues ahead of any narrative device in pretty much any shooter ever made-let alone Halo which is based on some of the worst novels I've ever read. Great game series Halo, no doubt, and I've enjoyed every game but KZ2 is more grown up on every level that you want to criticise it over-that isn't "construstive criticism" of any kind but mindless and ill thought out troll gibberish that actually shows you up a great deal.

You don't like it? Fine, don't play it. It's just a very different shooter to the one you put on a pedestal. One that's built way more on a believable concept than Halo and one with a very much higher emphasis on skill over pick up and play. There's nothing wrong with either approach and imagine what you'd think if it were a Halo clone?

Seriously, you don't like the game, fair enough. But not accepting that other people actually do like it is beyond denial and borders on an obsession given how often you feel the need to criticise a game you haven't even got much experience of. Killzone2 was fine before the moaners got their way and FF will learn their lesson and make KZ3 an even better game than this was and not bend to people who were always killing time between COD episodes next time out.

Finally, why is someone saying they enjoy a game that you clearly don't(and haven't tried to even understand)them being fanboys? There's no concept of taste in your mind? Anything that you don't like is classed as crap and that's just supposed to be taken as a fact? You're going to have to accept that, amazingly, some people prefer KZ2 to Halo(I know! Shocking innit!)and some, like myself, can see the genius of both(even if those bovels leave me very, very puzzled and cold-but whatever floats your boat I guess and it's not for me to pi55 on anyone's literary chips-like it isn't for you to do the same from an ill informed position about games)and, indeed, that gaming is better and richer for the variety they offer.

Sheesh, why bother? EVERY Killzone2 article gets a few of these daft trolling attempts-more than pretty much any other game-and why? Because some people didn't like the controls? Because some people who haven't played it don't like others enjoying it? I'm lost, honestly, to explain it all.

[Perkel]

@ Halo

"constructive criticism"

i didn't see any...

[solidjun5]

He was always a troll. In the beginning, he was a 'stealth' troll (I can't stand them), but not he's just blatant. I don't know why he still has 5 bubbles. Just bubble him down. You should see his moronic GT5 comment. It's just that hilarious. You'll finally realize he's really a 7 year old using his dad's computer.

"wasn't a fanboy before I came into this site. The silly and rabid sony fanboys have created the fanboy in me. And now I'll have me some fun at your expense. :)"

HAHAHAHAHA...had to laugh.

"[W]as...[always] a fanboy before I came to this site..."

Fixed!!

[NotSoSilentBob]

Your funny Halo. You talk about cliches yet you fail to see the fact that HALO is just as bad as Killzone2 with Cliche only difference is that Killzone2 actually was better then its target render. You claim Killzone2 is all gray and dark, yet I'm sure you never even read up on the story line and know that Helgan is a very rough dark industrial planet where people were killed being exposed to the atmosphere? Wait that is right you are used to Halo where everything is Bright shinny and the world revolves around Master Chief.

So back to the Spike VGAs. I find it funny that you bring up How Killzone2 didn't get a GOTY nomination, but no xbox360 exclusive was nominated either? Wait that's right Uncharted 2: Among Thieves was nominated. Killzone 2 was nominated for Best Graphics yet once again no xbox360 exclusive was nominated for that category? Then the sales game. So just because a game doesn't sell 10mil its first month doesn't mean it is a flop/failure/etc. The difference between a flop/failure and success is that the Devs have installed their skill and their ability to develop a game into people and that happens with all the people calling for more of their games. Yes Halo is overrated but it is far from a flop cause of its following.

For everyone else just Zap his bubbles so we only have to worry about 1 of his fanboyish comments a day.

[chidori666]

lol @ avatar and username of this guy...

[pixelsword]

You talk about cliches regarding Killzone and totally ignore Halo's cliches and outright robbery of multiple characters?

Hey, I always liked the first Halo BETER compared to the first Killzone. It was just cleanly done, and was unmatched for a New IP except when Gears/Resistance came out for me. I can tell you just about every rip-off from either Killzone or Halo; but Halo transgresses that FAR more than Killzone.

- Ripped of the soldier design of Doom and/or Quake

- Bungie gave Chief a "last of the breed" legacy like the jedi.

- Space Marines from Aliens (especially "sarge/Apone")

- Elites are a combination of H.R. Giger's Aliens and the Predator; but the predator's mouth (and wristblade) are on their bodies... the whole "honor" value system sounds blatantly Klingon.

- The Halo was from the Ringworld (ultimately from Freeman Dyson)

- The covenant was basically a knock-off of The Dominion from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

- They were in a "forgotten civilization" from countless sci-fi movies (planet of the apes, just to give the point). Those stories, even as well told as Halo was, comes off as clunky and cliche as can be at times... although I do love the story overall for the Halo series.

- Halo 3's multiplayer seems to emulate Quake 3's multiplayer; especially the man-cannon; actually, Unreal 3's multiplayer is almost up to par with Halo 3 except they really dropped the ball when it came to inner structure level design on VCTF.

- You have the nerve saying that Killzone doesn't have "personality" when it can be equally argued that Halo's ultra-sterile battle environments that never fully break down in any meaningful way can be the generic back-drop to almost any space shooter out there Quake (esp a II remake), Doom, Star Wars, Star Trek, ect. Just save it, son; it's not worth arguing about it.

Do I still love Halo and Killzone? YES, but to say one is a cliche while the other revels in cliches is laughable.

[Erotic Sheep]

So now 2 million copies sold is considered average?

Wow you really do run out of excuses. You're on my ignore list, I'm wasting my time reading your trolling as you sound like a retarded donkey who received too much banging from Bill Gates :|

Shouldn't you be playing Halo 3 instead of constant PS3 trolling? You know... you "pro" ROFL!!

[jerethdagryphon]

killing everyone in the last level wit a knife, not that bad a decision on easy he was also probobly going for knife kill trophy

try killing radec with a knife on elite then well talk

[Nikuma]

A 360/halo fanboy bashing KZ2... BIG SURPRISE!!!

[Rixynator]

KILLZONE 2 FTMFW!!

[TheTruth2009]

"If YOUR in an assassination game and YOUR the target, quickly form a squad before the enemy is alerted to your position, and your squad-mates can all spawn near you to provide support the whole time. Squads also have THERE own headset channel, letting them communicate no matter how far apart on the map they are."

This guy needs a little grammar school.

You have to at least know the difference between YOU and YOU'RE.
And TO and TOO.
And THERE and THEIR.

And you Sony Fans have to nerve to correct Hip Hop Gamer's grammar all the time.
But let me guess... In a pro-Sony article... IT'S OKAY. Right?

Hypocrites.

NO. ONE. CARES.

PS3Vault.com. (LOL)
Another Pro-Sony site creating its own press because the REAL media doesn't care about your underwhelming console with its forgotten exclusives.

As I always say, when you see the title of the article, check the source right after. It'll tell you everything. :-)

Sony Fans. Pretty sad, guys. I feel sorry for you.

Call me when a REAL Gaming Site prints an article like this.

"This just in...
Paris Hilton is the hottest woman on Earth.
Sponsored by Hilton Hotels of America..."

Puh-leeze.

[Antan]

"have to nerve to correct Hip Hop Gamer's grammar"

So, about that grammar thing?

[TheTeam06]

Sorry, Truth. No one can see your walls anymore. You're one loose string away from being invisible.

Just goes to show you that NO. ONE. CARES.

[meetajhu]

The best FPS i've ever played in my life in my gaming of 15years! The FPS is close to my heart!

[GamerPS360]

This game should be on PC. Bad company 2 is on the horizon but if this game was on PC, I wouldn't have to spend money on any other shooters until BC2.

Technically, nothing beats killzone2 on console but it is just not for DS3.
One of the few game that I keeping with my collection even I hate console FPS.

[mauleriscool]

how many people play online?

[ps12&3lover]

who ever thinks this game is a flop is a total d1k head.. seriously stop talking out your @ss..kz2 was by far the best fps of 2009 and yea i like it better than mw2..i rather play 32 online matches with no lag and beautiful maps than 8 on 8 in jaggy maps where everyone is camping and scared to run and gun..zzzzzz booooring!!!!!

i think cod4 is so much better than mw2..i loved the online but im sorry mw2 got boring fast..of course ill get a whole bunch of disagrees from xbots who think mw2 is exclusive..its just sad they will never play kz2, a real beast in fps.....kz3 will destroy any fps when it comes out..ill put money on that

[MetalGearRising]

KillZone 2 one of the all time Flops which never ever leaved up to expectations gameplay ideas copied from numerous games and yet it still flopped.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

yes flops....
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

you never played KZ2. troll harder.

[ps12&3lover]

so what made this game flop?? cause you keep repeating it over and over just screaming for attention with out stating any actual facts..

....it scored higher than odst and its not like odst out sold it by alot so does that make odst a flop like every other 360 game that came out this year...metalgear your just an attention seeker..look at your name.you think we care that xbox is getting a spin off thats not even being developed by the orignal creator lol..they just gave xbox that game so they can stop crying already..

metalgear rising will not even come close to mgs4..

[TengkuAmir10]

you should try harder next time you douchebag. go kill yourself okay? HALO, ALAN WAKE all of em were flops and if you consider KILLZONE 2 as a flop then i take it you consider 360 games a BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG FAT FLOP.

[thereapersson]

Piss off a LOT of fanboys!

[edhe]

Yeah they thought they'd have a legendary game full of exciting stuff to play.

[NotSoSilentBob]

No it showed that the ps3 could perform at the level Sony touted it at. I don't see every ps3 exclusive being as graphically Killzone2 but it's been proven that Ps3 has the potential and has delivered higher quality games.

[Tru_Blu]

Start out by saying look at my comment history and can check my psn BluHavik. I got up to almost the end of the train on elite and my blu-laser went out on me. I copied everything but the new PS3 wouldn't let me start from the last spot on KZ. Needless to say I never did get to finish that game on elite, though that was the most intense battles you will ever have on a counsel.

[Tru_Blu]

How in the hell am I getting disagrees? Sorry I had a 60gig that did have a bad laser. Must be the SDF on my case lol.

[NotSoSilentBob]

not sdf but more then likely it is POG/MGR/WhyDis and all his other alt accounts just disagreeing with everyone.

[jerethdagryphon]

i have 2 missions left on elite, final assault on radacs room, and defences of visari square

oddly its not radec stopping me its the hordes of goons radec is easy to kill

[ATm32]

my GOTY :)

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Over Uncharted 2?

[PirateThom]

I may have to get into the multiplayer again. Have had no time for multiplayer with all the games that came out, after finishing Batman yesterday though, I'm pretty much caught up (still need to finish off Borderlands though)

[iceman06]

I have selfishly ignored KZ2 for far too long!!! I had to get caught up beating Batman, Borderlands, UC2, and now trying to polish of MW2!!! But, maybe during the holidays I will get that chance!!!

[achira]

best fps ever! with best graphics and gameplay. its laughable how the xbots try to make the game look bad. idiots. this game is better than all xbox360 games at once.

[PirateThom]

Nice to see the Microsoft Troll Force is out today. Definitely the whiniest babies on the planet.

[ultimolu]

They don't have games to play. Who could blame them?

[redsquad]

It's called "misdirection".
They're trying to distract us from all the "flops" on the 360 that failed to sell anywhere near KZ2 numbers.

[mario8888]

Killzone 2 online was not an easy game to play. It takes a lot more skill to play it than say Cod mw2 and that one of the reasons everyone loves COD mw2.

[Brock Danger]

COD still takes skill, and a lot of it to really succeed (i suck). But what it's missing is thinking.

It's the worst parts of the older quake/unreal games with no real concept behind it. Spawn, run real fast, hope you don't get javelin-killed, shoot, die, repeat. Not to say that it doesn't take skill to be good at, just not the kind of skills i look for in an FPS.

EDIT: @ Below - I don't remember the aim assist in KZ being that ridiculous, but I could be wrong. MW2 definitely has an aim assist, been killed more than a few times because my crosshairs got magnetized to the wrong guy. And not even speaking from my own kills, but the final kill cam shows more than enough that you don't even need to have your crosshair on your enemy to kill them.

DOUBLE EDIT: @ Pirate Thom - Kill to death ration don't mean jack in my opinion. When you're playing an objective based game, the win is what matters. I'm with you on the leading the charge, I'm always as up close and personal as I can be.

[Tru_Blu]

I sucked also. But at least it was someone actually hitting you not some aim assist bs that got you. If they truly zero in on me good for them, when its keep tapping L1 until it locks.. BS.

[PirateThom]

Funny enough, Killzone 2 is one of the few FPS games I was actually decent at online, 0.66 kill/death ratio aside (I used to lead the charge on attacks into areas).

I think, because it was more weighty and lacked auto aim, I was at an advantage since auto-aim always throws me off in games.

[table]

hehe, you always striked me as a skilled gamer piratethom. Killzone2 did have autoaim though, after one of the early patches is was as noticeable as CoD.

One of the few games I bothered to get platinum it was just that good.

[giovonni]

graphically is a stunner compared to other shooters, The AI is a little better then most FPS more enemies on the screen... thats about it. I've played better FPS that had a better balance with the controls and story. Before you disagree, really look at the impact Killzone two has made on gaming as a whole, and then compare it to the other games that have came out this year, and is it really game of the year? The loyals of a one system nation would say yeah, but after playing Killzone2, and a dozen other FPS, Killzone2 is just an average shooter. Its a jack of all master of none.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I agree entirely. After playing MW2...KZ2 is just another shooter. It's a good shooter...one whose muli-player is addicting as frick...but still...it's nothing genre-defining.

[L-a-i-n]

It is all a matter of opinion really. I enjoyed Killzone 2 a lot more than I enjoyed MW2. MW2 I stopped playing after a few days. Killzone 2 on the other hand I still play at least once a week with friends. There is not anything immersive or memorable about MW2 it is the same old thing that is in most FPS these days. Like I said it is just opinion 8)

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Great game. Campaign was meh though. I guess I was expecting more storyline. : ( The characters weren't that memorable.

Basically, I wanted it to be Modern Warfare 2. Lol.

As good as Killzone 2 is, you guys have to admit that MW2 was much more immersive and memorable.

You guys wouldn't admit that though...because KZ2 is the underdog here and it's "cooler" to go with the underdog.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

i do agree, thats my point. Graphically KZ2 is a beast of a game compared to MW2. its obvious from the point you insert your game into the PS3.

but it wasnt as immersive as MW2. thats one thing you have to give credit to IW for, exploiting their engine to deliver these moments.

@Tru_Blu

he's not talking about Gameplay, we all know KZ2 is way more realistic than MW2. We all know KZ2 is a game of Great Quality and its up there with other Great Big Shooters. he's talking about how the single player didnt immersed the player into the game. the music and its Multiplayer were awesome though.

[Tru_Blu]

What is your PSN? I want to see that trophy for beating it on elite. Or for getting all the ribbons. I'm BluHavik and no I don't claim to have all of them.

The point being it's not some kiddie shooter. You don't get aim assist or even sights for that matter on elite. Like all the other shooters. Show me then how you got it like all the rest. I have the W@W and soon the MW2 Platinum's.. No where near the KZ though myself.. I'm looking forward to seeing yours.

John Paul.. It's better to jump around all the time.. I'll take Sev going at it over many different guys who all get killed beyond my control any day.

LOL is that your take make me have to argue with the pope :)

Maybe we can find common ground on this... I think the $60 bucks is well worth it just for the Spec Ops. I'm having a blast trying to work through them all. At 63 now just need estate and snatch for the 69. Almost all solo btw.

[jerethdagryphon]

while i respect your opinion i feel completly the opposite,
first thing first im not an online gamer i dont play competitive games other then hawx.

mw2 i found to be very cut pasted, yes it has some nice set peices but i didnt feel it dragged me into the narative and foundmyself doing other things during cutscenes.
i played it on pc

kz2 was the only fps ive ever felt tried to make you feel what war was like,
to me it felt like i was playing a shooter on the beaches of normandy during the landings.

halo didnt make me feel anything
gears made me laugh at the rediculousness of it
cod4 was a brief diversion
r1 was nice but lacking imersion r2 was a wtf leftovers from cutting room floor.

somepeople say the chars were 2 dimentional i found them to be more belivable, there was less of the gungho marine stupidity or one man army atitudes.

anyhow this is my opinion

[iceman06]

BUT...IMO I felt like MW and MW2 were a collection of huge, over-the-top set pieces held together by a modest plot. Although KZ2 didn't have the Hollywood, summer blockbuster feel to the set pieces...they WERE more cohesive (IMO) than MW2 or MW. I'm a Killzone on the PS2 holdover, so I can relate the previous story high points to the war that is currently waging on Helgan. That helps the immersion factor and the story progression. I liked all 3 of the games...but fell in love with the feel of KZ! That and Battlefield Bad Company are my "unsung" heroes!!!

[rob6021]

I don't share your opinion..And i don't see how this game is the 'underdog.' Some people prefer a modern military storyline, some people prefer futuristic and sci-fi.

I think the story and immersion of Killzone2 was a lot better than MW2. MW2 was completely run of the mill shooter to me, felt just like the first one's campaign, which i didn't like, i didn't care what was going on really. I mean what is the story? Russia attacks the US... how original... The loading screens in cod to tell the story is the absolute worst way you can tell a story.

Killzone 2 has a very strong background to it all, about how the hellghan were originally human, but changed because they had to adapt to the harshness their planet - but stayed because of the vast resources it had, and eventually were changed enough to consider themselves a different race, and they thought a superior race. I really wish KZ2 would have covered more of this stuff.

Killzone 2 had lots of swearing yea, but to me that made it all the more believable. Yea Rico was macho and angry maybe you could stereotype him but you're there to kick some ass and win the war, not take a bunch of prisoners. I can't remember a single COD character..that's not memorable to me.

MW2 doesn't use great action music to help create a sense of war and excitement, the AI isn't as good. Cover system is better than no cover at all, because you get cheap-shoted trying to figure out if they can actually shoot you.

MW2 is not more impressive and memorable to me KZ2 was far more on those two categories. I do think CoD has better multiplayer, but that's to say Killzone 2's multiplayer is bad, it's unique and it can be a lot of fun.

GG deserves a lot of credit for KZ2. They made an outstanding game, I know most COD fans don't like it as much - but they pushed the limits and raised the bar on what a shooter can be, and I don't believe MW2 reached that bar.

[Antan]

Gfx, sound, immersion, gameplay...............If KZ3 can nail all these elements again while adding to them, more variety in terms of levels/terrain...........addit ion of co-op, whack another couple of hours playtime.......then you have all the hallmarks of another success story.

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

I'd be happy with more story, a recap of the past events even. Then maybe some non-military Helghast women/children. Stuff like that. Stuff you didn't hear about or see in the others.

[BoBo-]

Pretty much the only thing Killzone 2 did right were the graphics. The gameplay was a bore and the controls were stiff. Not much to enjoy about that after you get over the graphics.

[iceman06]

The physics were crazy...the AI was extremely smart on higher difficulties. Level design was also excellent! But...as I always say...to each his own...GAME ON!!!

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

A model gamer. ^

[saint_john_paul_ii]

KZ2 was the most innovated FPS created this year. the multiplayer was addicting although it had a few flaws that could be fixed in the Next Game. GG can make these accomedations happen, they listen to crowd very seriously. To me its multiplayer is way better than the offerings of its competitors such as COD or BF. there is no camping or twitichy controls which you see in MW2 which is pretty much an acrade shooter.

if theres one thing i want to see out of KZ2, is to make the Single Player better. i might take flak for this, but the single player was pretty bland compared to MW2's story. IW exploited their engine to put those Holy S**t moments which tend to make the game so intense, and thats with an engine thats already showing its age. KZ2 had good moments but GG didnt exploited their awesome Engine to Create an in your face moment that just make you love the single player. sure they had that Nuke go off in KZ2, but it wasnt as intense as the Nuke going off in COD4, which put the character in the middle of it.

what do you guys think?

[Jamescagney]

I agree, although I've warmed to the game the story, the dialogue especially and the way it's all wrapped together just isn't interesting enough. I'd also say that the lack of enemy types is pretty limited.

What they have got right is the graphics and the gameplay, I love the shooting and the cover system. And although I haven't tried the multiplayer yet I hear it's very good, but I'll have to leave judgement on that until I've completed the game.

IMO (and it is just my opinion) I don't really think this is 'The best fps ever' as others think, it's a very good game, but it's not the best fps. If they fix the flaws for the next one and make improvements then maybe the next one can be the best.

[The_Zeitgeist]

KZ2 story 12-13 hours
MW2 story 5-7 hours

[DreamcastFanboy]

12-13 hours? Are you insane? the game was around the same time as MW2 unless I am really that good which I doubt.

[The_Zeitgeist]

You must have played on easy dude. Wait scratch that Killzone 2 is notorious for long fire fights in single player. There is no way you beat in 5 hours even on easy.

You don't have to lie to kick it dude.

[HDgamer]

The single player alone is more longer than MW2's campaign. On easy or Elite this is not a joke, killing Radec is a job within it self. Getting through his waves of intelligent enemies are just beyond difficult.

[Knightofelemia]

It is a great game and the online was fun but the thing i thought the game needed was online campaign co-op thats it. It was a very good game

[devilhunterx]

Another thing it did right was "piss of the x-fans"

[Hanif-876]

I don't even know which games to get on my Xbox360 anymore...because all the multiplatforms games now look better on the PS3 and the xbox360 doesn't have any exclusive games, so what is it good for....nothing!

[ZombieAutopsy]

All fanboyism aside i feel the same way, everytime i go into gamestop im like "Alright I need to get something to play on my 360" and i can never find anything i want, last time i bought a game for it i bought Halo 3 to see what all the hype was about and ended up selling it a little over a month later because it became boring faster than pushing a hoop with a stick (did like griffball though).

[DigitalAnalog]

The controls..

BEST IN THE FPS GENRE!

-End statement

[Faaking]

well, with Brink, the graphics part of KZ2 will also belong to the past!

The only think what GG did right was all about the graphics, thats it!

Have ya seen the alpha built of Brink? It looks as good as KZ2 not to mention how it will look when its finished.

[sak500]

The only thing KZ2 did right was to add 2 shades of orange to otherwise brown only pallette. Also one more thing it did do well was to overhype the game to the biggest overhyped game in the history of the world.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Hmmmmm delicious tears.

[mxrider2]

What do you call halo and CoD....

[chidori666]

"Brink is what KillZone 2 should have been."

http://images.eurogamer.net...

killzone 2:

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killzone 2 still the best fps of this gen metalbot.

they will have to work harder to reach the level of graphics of killzone 2.

[Bumpmapping]

Brink looks good but when compared to Killzone2 it looks embarrassing!

[The real killer]

"Brink looks good but when compared to Killzone2 it looks embarrassing!"

Yes agree,Brink looks more cartoony.
Can't you see the different?

Brink, is boring as i see, no good looking no war environment!!!

[BlaqGold804]

It just didnt grab me and suck me in like uncharted2 did. I kind of mad myself finish the sp

[The_Zeitgeist]

Uncharted 2's Multiplayer is more addicting I have to agree.

[The_Zeitgeist]

Man that article made me sad. I had to sell Killzone 2 a few months back to get some cash when I lost my job. And I'm still without a job and all I want to do is play some Killzone 2 after reading that. Thats just suckey.

[iceman06]

Any takers???*LOL* Sorry bout that job thing...I'm in the same boat...and just holding on to my games. They are my solace AWAY from the harsh realities of the real world...best of luck!!!

[DreamcastFanboy]

I liked this game but it has a the second crappiest ending behind MW2.

[Dead_Cell]

It was original for a First Person Shooter,it gave the top "bad guy" the chance to explain that he's only trying to ensure his peoples survival and well being.
Viscari was fighting against opression,the Helghan were stabbed in the back after supplying the earth colonies with the funds to colonise other planets in exchange for a place for his OWN people,only to lose there main planet Vecta and be shunted off to an intergalactic sh*thole.
Viscari made the "good guy" doubt what he was doing,that's something never done in a FPS storyline. Since when has the bad guy been so good?

[The_Zeitgeist]

I actually found the end to be a bit emotionally disturbing. They made Vassari a martyr.

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

It wasn't Visari, it was a doppleganger, a clone, a look-alike.

Notice when he's speaking at the start of the game, as Sev watches the monitor.

Then look at Visari at the end, you'll notice some differences.

[jerethdagryphon]

heres the thing isa are the bad guys in kz2 there invading somoens homeland there shooting up homes and places of work, the helgast are defending themselfs, and the isa is doing this in retaliation

visari did bring his people purpose and did improve somethings there, yes hes a dictator but he did aim to make helgaln better

[kneon]

Was it really Visari that was killed in the end, don't know for sure. As another post said there are some subtle differences in how he looks compared to the opening shot.

Also the story line could take a drastic shift if Sev and the boys realize that they are the bad guys and that the Helghast have been screwed over by the ISA. Could we end up on the Helghan side trying to stop the ISA from destroying Helghast?

[Bodyboarder_VGamer]

I beat the game twice (hard and Elite) and for me Killzone 2 was sh1t. The very definition of a generic shooter. Dull and boring. Awful art design and the worst of all... The Gameplay.

I sold it for Uncharted 2. Now that's a game. They didn't took 5 years and made a beautiful games that craps all over Killzone 2 from gameplay to graphics.

[JonnyBigBoss]

"I beat the game twice (hard and Elite) and for me Killzone 2 was sh1t."

...

It's a multiplayer game, and your opinion is ridiculous.

[gijsbrecht]

I understand that you don't like the game, and that it was a sh!t game to you; your opinion and al....
But please don't state it as a fact that it has been crapped on by any game, even UC2. For it hasn't. It's too advanced and too good for that. It's nothing a true gamer would say, if he / she would have any respect for what developers are trying to achieve. Naughty Dog has a huge respect for Guerilla Games and KZ2. And vica versa. They helped each other out with both of their games for christ's sake.

[HDgamer]

Show me your trophies unless you got an excuse for why you don't have either.

[grantps3]

if guerilla just put more of a story into it and made more unlockables for multiplayer it would have been so much better. also if they had online co-op, but it was still a great game. i think that they will think about uncharted 2 when they make killzone 3, so i bet there will be more story to it

[Double07]

Agreed.

I'd have loved some sort of survival mode with 4 players on KZ2, like the mode in Uncharted 2. Implement the cover system into it and have never ending waves of helghast and see how far you can get would have been awesome beyond belief. Make it happen for KZ3 GG.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I have to agree with the article. Many say KZ2 was overrated, I say heck now. The Clan system, Warzone system, graphics, audio and support were all OUTSTANDING.

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

It's one hell of a shooter, probably one of the best 3. You can say all you want about PC shooters, but they all feel the same because you're using a mouse and your aiming speed and weapon handling is basicially the exact same in every pc shooter.

I like the feeling of the gameplay in KZ2. It was a breath of fresh air when I first tried it because of it feeling different.

[PimplePopperMD]

They didnt do anything right. The game is terrible and you fools need to raise your standards.

[Raoh]

agreed.. with all the MW2 issues, i'm giong to send it back to gamefly and just keep playing my MAG beta, BFBC2 Beta and go back, to killzone 2...

[Chapulin]

since Halo 1.

[Digitaldude]

the game did heaps right, its probably hasnt been successful as they hoped due to biased reviews.

[Odin777]

I'm surprised at how many people dislike Killzone 2. I'm starting to think its one of those things people just love to hate (and without even playing it ha ha).

[iceman06]

It was HYPED to all bedamned!!! It was the flagship for what PS3 could do with the FPS genre. That naturally breeds HATE!!!
It didn't sell as it was intended, although had it been advertised with might of this current advertising push, it would be a hard ticketit to find. When it didn't net the type of sells that people thought it would...well hate from all sides started flowing. Plus if you didn't bother with the first Killzone...as a lot of people didn't...the story might have left you a bit flat.
I am probably a rarity because I actually thoroughly enjoyed the first Killzone. I loved the heft of the weapons and the AI was crazy for a PS2 game at the time! Bots that flanked, laid cover fire...just unheralded at the time! A

[N1ko]

KZ2 is an amazing game nuff said.

[DonCorneo]

the sniper gun is amazing. the stealth is amazing.

my only problems are the too much gun recoil and the machine gun is overpowered.

[Socomer 1979]

I play religously.

Finally, the sci fi fps specifically made for me.

[vTuro24]

the game is just awesome, GG did a great job

[boss_killa]

killzone 2 was one hell of a game. definately not for all these COD/halo cry baby noobs. it definately had a learning curve but if you gave it a chance it's really fun and rewarding.

there are some things guerrilla could improve upon but i hope they dont try to cater to all these COD/halo noobies too much. that would take away from their personality.

[DecoyOctopus]

amazing FPS

[sl0w-m0]

This is the most overhyped game ever. Everybody said it was gonna be so good like the next Halo (just like Haze was supposed to be LOL) but after it came out all the talk suddenly died down and everybody forgot about it. And the multiplayers not anything special either. I bet the highest amount of people playing this game online ever is not even half the amount of people who play Halo 3 everyday (still one of the most played games on live after 2 years)

[cpuchess]

everybody forgot about it???? What rock have you been living under?

[iceman06]

Wii sports would be the greatest online title of all time...saying as though it has sold the most units of a game to this date...if the Wii had a competent online infrastructure!?!?! Whatever!!! HALO has sold crazy numbers...and therefore is highly likely to have MORE players playing. Couple that with the fact that the 360 has always been sold and marketed as a "hardcore shooter's" console. It makes perfect sense that HALO was the most played game online...up until COD4!!!

Realistically, it was overhyped...but SO IS HALO!!! That doesn't mean that they are not GREAT games!!!

Have you played the game??? Or are you just in defense of HALO??? Just wondering, because it would be pretty difficult to be objective without having the experience of each one.

Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion...even though I respectfully disagree...to each his own...GAME ON!!!

[DarkCowMoo]

But KZ2 is a top notch game.

[Domer25]

The fact that newly released games are STILL being compared to killzone2's graphics is the ultimate flattery. Great job GG, this game still impresses me.

[Paradise Lost]

I played killzone not too long ago, and all i can say is Wow it really is one of the best F2p shooters i've ever played. With the exception of Perfect dark 64 & Goldeneye 64 =)

[mayberry]

the dlc multi-player maps dont get played too often!:( Now that GG gave some away and lowered the price even more( they were only 6 or 7 bucks anyway!) I've been playing online skirmish just to get the hang of them! If you have the maps... play 'em!

[CARRIERHASARRIVED]

Yep, totally hear you. It'll take a big rounding up of players to breathe life into those maps.

Sounds sad, but it's 100% true.

[Morituri]

I'm in the Mag Beta.
I'm in the Bad Company 2 Beta.

I've played COD 4...Hated it.

I've played Halo, Halo3 etc...

Killzone 2 is still the best FPS I have ever played. Ever.
I have a new appreciation for KZ2 every time I play another fps.

[spektical]

GG will take home lots of FPS GOTY and a few GOTY. MW2 is a joke , the game is totally noob friendly.. i mean cmon i have a 2.15 K/D ratio my top friend has 3.85 cmon MW2 is garbage, anyone can get kills anyone can get a nuke( i already got like 20..). Kz2 was different, there was a sense of weight, tactical attack and most of all realism that so many other FPS try to do and fail miserably. MW2 will take home GOTY and FPS GOTY only because its a Call of Duty Title... aka a noob game.
KIllzone excelled in graphics, clan system, weight feeling to weapons, almost no laggy gameplay, fantastic single player and did not fall into a "noob-friendly" category.

good job GG , i hope the same for KZ3 , if not better.

[swishman]

MW2 best game ever Killzone 2 sucks!!!!
the clunky stupid laggy controls suck how is that realistic?!!!???

[CrippleH]

How is shooting an assault rifle with no kickback and recoil realistic?
How is carrying 2 assault rifle without any fatigue while moving realistic?
How is a Submachine gun doing about same damage as assault rifle when Submachine guns uses an inferior bullet realistic?
How is that every gun is 100% accurate going in a straight line without deter realistic?
How can you swing an assault rifle around like it's a feather realistic?

It is not.

[Digitaldude]

By your large amounts of exclamation marks i can tell your new to gaming or 12years old.
Poor boy, when will you open your eyes to see the real world.

[kraze07]

I love KZ2, but I still like the first one more. Well, the single player at least.

[Digitaldude]

Really proud of beating elite and getting top 1% on KZ2.