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Kojima Talks More About Hardcore Natal Plans

The father of Metal Gear told Kotaku that he'd like to make games for Natal that appeal to people who like his own work and Halo.

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KingKionic 5346d ago WhoDisagree(0)Agree(0)
Duplicate story
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-399554.aspx?CT=1 AND http://www.n4g.com/events_tgs2009/NewsCom-400836.aspx?CT=1
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Peter North5347d ago (Edited 5347d ago )

Someone from Microsoft has spiked his drink with a RRODfie

SKUD5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

LOL. Don't do drugs kids.

evrfighter5346d ago

That was pretty sad bro.

You can do a lot better than that =\.

AngryTypingGuy5346d ago

Welcome aboard Kojima! Make us something awesome!

BX815346d ago

What happened Pete did they ban you from this zone for a couple of days?

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Saaking5347d ago (Edited 5347d ago )

I despise Natal, but nonetheless I'm very interested in what Kojima does. If he says there's possibilities than there probably are. First day buy if he actually goes through with it.

"I'm not interested in making Natal games for casual users, but I'm interested in making games that hardcore users always wanted to play,"

That's what I'm talking about. If Natal can give hardcore gamers a good time, then great!

KingKionic 5347d ago

Kojima likes it.

Thats a good start .

SnuggleBandit5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I hope devs can think of more ways to use it than that because the only thing i can think of is that it will be a rail shooter or you will have to use a remote of some type along with natal(touted as hands free gaming mind you)

@ murderdolls below

no i call it like i see it...just like the eyetoy...its for casual games and is a joke (and its my opinion)

Noctis Aftermath5346d ago

kojimas fanbase and natal fanbase are completely different.

HK = 15+

Natal = 5-12

-MD-5346d ago

I bet you would love Natal if it had Sony slapped all over it.

You don't benefit from Sony earning money and you don't benefit from Microsoft losing money get a life.

Natsu X FairyTail5346d ago

this guy is obvioulsy Biased so What he says is Irrelevant.

Everything he says is PRO SONY and against MS.

Rigmaster5346d ago

"I bet you would love Natal if it had Sony slapped all over it. "

Gamers already do. It's called EyeToy:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

evrfighter5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

Saakings image of premier ps3 fanboy has been shaken. Quick throw in a stealth troll about buying it used or the internet will explode.

jk jk

In all seriousness. I havn't played a MGS title since solid. But if this is coming from Saaking I think I'll have to try it out.

edit:

Kojima looks baked in that pic btw.

JokesOnYou5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

Everybody on this site knows that had sony introduced Natal all you ps3 loyalists would be screaming, "Ha ha see sony is being innovative with motion controls while micro is just following wii footsteps with a dildo wand." lol

Kojima, Kojima Productions: Natal is something “like the 2D to 3D shift, or the first time that I ever played with Family Computer [NES],”

Keiji Inafune, Capcom: "its a challenge for us to produce something beyond what we are used to doing. Iam certain Natal will bring that change. This doesn't mean its being replaced, but rather, its being enhanced."

Yozu Sakagami, Namco Bandai: "We are excited like kids with a new toy. Everyone on the team was coming up with new ideas."

Keisuke Kikuchi, Tecmo: "Our team has started planning for games to play on Natal, and we came up with 72 ideas all together."

Kenichiro Imaizumi, Kojima Productions: "Its quite revolutionary to us, we never really thought of it that way. We imagined it before but we never thought it would come so quickly. So it took us by surprise. What we will create on Natal would be something that has no limitations. Ideas from outside the box."

Toshihiro Nagoshi, Sega: "The most innovative side is its controller free and it focuses on voice recognition."

Masanori Takeuchi, From Software: "I think Natal is beyond the concept of any existing game. With Natal, I thought that we'd be able to do something new on the Xbox 360 again. I hope to expand the current gaming experience, rather than evolve gaming into something irrevelant to current games. But with Natal this becomes a possibility."

Naoki Maeda, Konami: "I'd like to create a more realistic music entertainment with Natal for my fans.z"
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

-bu, bu, but its micro so I know it will suck, says the ps3 fanboy. lol

JOY

bushfan5346d ago

think about a game like gears of war..prince of persia...or uncharted...and think about doing what you do in that games just using natal instead of a controller...you can duck, run or jump..natal must track every action..10 min later every1 gonna be tired of jumping ducking or running...how do you gonna do long jumps? how natal will track that motion?..many people want to sit take the pad in hand and get a lot fun playing..anothers like using wiimote..different tastes..but in the end you need a joystick, you can't do every action with a free physic control

BLuKhaos5346d ago

You know what would really be funny? If Kojima ends up making an Eyetoy game for the PS3 instead.Natal is nothing but a glorified Eyetoy ripoff.

Sarcasm5346d ago

Maybe he could make an MGS type game, well doesn't have to be MGS but some other "Stealth Action" title.

You use the 360 controller to walk around. But you can hit a specific action button that switches to Natal. So you can walk up slowly behind the enemy, and perform a neck break or pretend like you're aiming a weapon at him to gain information. In other areas when it requires you to find informtion, you scan through similar to Minority Report.

At certain door check points it requires you to get facial recognition to open the door, thus you have to set your face in front of the TV for it to recognize that you're the character, then the door opens.

Just a few ideas. I think Kojima could do something along those lines, and I'm sold on Natal.

beardpapa5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

It'll be interesting if in the end, all these developers making hardcore games for Natal were using it for.... head tracking. Or using it for hand gestures to manipulate inventory, etc, while still requiring a controller to play the actual game. It would defeat the purpose of a controller-less device.

Edit: Sarcasm's post illustrates what I'm exactly thinking of. Which again, would defeat the concept of Natal - which is controller-free gaming.

Cold 20005346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

Wow cant wait for Kojima to make his dream game come true on the 360 with Natal.

Its going to be something...special...

dragonelite5346d ago

Ooh oke saaking did you just say something good about the 360 im not sure if yor account is hacked or something.

bakasora5346d ago

microsoft contacted kojima?

4Sh0w5346d ago

Hideo Kojima "I am not interested in making games for casual users, but I'n interested in making games that hardcore users always wanted to play."

Wow, isn't that what we all want to hear? I dont see Kojima as this god-like dev he's been made out to be in the past by many on n4g, but if he's going to work on Natal thats definitely the direction we want to see this tech being used for.

lightningsax5346d ago

This is great! Kojima Productions is beginning to spread itself out, and Natal projects will surely be part of their stuff in the future.

Can we just say right now that we still don't know what Natal will actually be at release? By the time Natal comes out, this 360 stuff will be affordable enough for PS3 owners to pick it up. If Natal is treated just as another controller and not a reason to make Wii-esque BS minigames, as this article is showing signs of, the core PS3 gamer would probably want to pick up a Box.

Both systems have a good install base now, and we'll see where that is after the holiday season. There's no reason to hope that Natal bombs - if Sony has one excellent way to play via motions, and Microsoft has another, we're going to want both. If we get good Kojima games for both, it'll reinforce that idea quickly!

Take the reverse of everything I said the same way. Both controllers could suck, we could end up with a Natal port of the MGS iPhone game, and we'll want nothing to do with it.

Who knows? I'm just happy that Kojima isn't just resting on his laurels and he's doing stuff.

slayorofgods5346d ago

I like Kojima. But I'm still skeptical about how over developed wii ware is going to translate into the hardcore gamer realm. Despite MS buying big profile names such as Kojima to work on Natal I believe that MS would be more successful using his talents in making a game on par with his usual work (without the use of Natal).

Playing MGS with motion controls just seems weird to me. I'd prefer a controller over the air for these types of games; but maybe people prefer holding an imaginary gun in their hands and saying bang to make it shoot.

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Ron_Burgundy5347d ago

Kojima-San, it will be easy to appeal to these 2 year old peasants

v1c1ous5346d ago

yeah right Kojima. i'm still waiting for your supposed 360 zombie MMO that you promised back in the day....

hakis865346d ago

Good luck to him trying to make a game with the LAG recently shown in Natal.

happyface5346d ago

such a trator to sony

disgusting

SKUD5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

Everyone's got there price bro.

EDIT: LOL, looks like I forgot to add the /sarcasm.

happyface5346d ago

money or not, kojima-san's xbox fanboyism is sickening

Funky Town_TX5346d ago

I thought this guy worked for no one. Why do you care who he makes games for?

jimbone5346d ago

He's not a traitor he is a game developer. He is not some guy in his mom's basement. He see's opportunity and how to make a new experience. He is not a sad sad fanboy with nothing better to do than sit and type negativity all day, and I personally can't wait to see what he can come up with. He hasn't let me down yet, MGS5 was awesome, as i'm sure the next 2 game will be.By the way your the traitor... to gamers, and give us a bad name so please chill with the hate.

cmrbe5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

happy face. I never knew you are a PS fan. You always supported MS.

velcry5346d ago

@happyface: Competition between developers would only lead to better games!

It is a natural tendency for human beings to become more lax when there is no competition. If there were no Wii or Xbox this generation, might Sony not be as pompous and arrogant as they were in the early days of PS3? Would they not expect to easily dominate the market, and therefore, put less effort into things?

I offer a few examples:

1. Leaderboards - when there are leaderboards showing you how you compare against others, you put more effort into the game to become better. Like Batman's Challenge rooms. If there were no leaderboards, I might just get the medals and be done with now, but now I train even harder just to rank higher.

2. Warfare - need I say more? I'm not talking about COD, but about real wars. Wartime = greatest growth spurts of war technology, as each side races to one-up the other.

3. Other games like COD6 and FIFA/PES - Note an interesting trend. For sports games which used to dominate the market, the yearly iterations were hardly much better than the previous year's. But when there is a direct competitor, the game improves the fastest, like between FIFA and PES.

And look at modern shooters like COD6: precisely because other shooters have upped the ante, they can't afford to just put in a few new maps and weapons into COD4 and rename it COD6. They have to really up the action, the intensity, the graphics. Otherwise, people would just go, meh, this ain't much better than KZ2 or COD5 or BF2.

4. Conclusion

HK helping with Natal might sting for Sony supporters, but it actually spurs the industry on. Any ideas or innovations he makes with Natal will invariably be copied by Sony's Wand people, or Nintendo's Wii2 people too.

For me, I'm just glad someone like HK is working on Natal. That means that an industry leader is pushing the technology, and when that happens, games will improve.

Tony P5346d ago

"did he sale his sole?"

I hope English is your second language. Regardless, please study more.

I don't know what people expect him to say... "Natal sucks?"
He's a dev and he can talk intelligently about the promise of the tech. Devs know it's not the Eye Toy. Maybe a logical evolution of it, yes. But they know that nothing in gaming can do what Natal does right now.

cmrbe5346d ago (Edited 5346d ago )

You guys do know that happyface is a x360 troll that is trying to make PS fans look bad right?.

@Tony: My point is you guys are spending so much time responding to him when he was just fooling you people. If you need proof just check his posting history. I happen to know him since i have been on N4G for a long time and he always do this to make PS fans look bad.

Tony P5346d ago

Honestly couldn't tell. What's the difference between a 360 guy pretending to be a PS fanboy and a real PS fanboy? Nothing much imo.
Fanboys all have the same trademark ignorance.

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Einhander19721d 8h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander19721d 7h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto1d 7h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander19721d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto1d 7h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander19721d 5h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff21831d 3h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto1d 2h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197223h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv721d 6h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh1d 5h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander19721d 5h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow123h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv7222h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix761d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand1251d 8h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC1d 7h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander19721d 7h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC1d 6h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia1d 3h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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