Kojima Talks More About Hardcore Natal Plans

The father of Metal Gear told Kotaku that he'd like to make games for Natal that appeal to people who like his own work and Halo.

[Peter North]

Someone from Microsoft has spiked his drink with a RRODfie

[SKUD]

LOL. Don't do drugs kids.

[evrfighter]

That was pretty sad bro.

You can do a lot better than that =\.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Welcome aboard Kojima! Make us something awesome!

[BX81]

What happened Pete did they ban you from this zone for a couple of days?

[Saaking]

I despise Natal, but nonetheless I'm very interested in what Kojima does. If he says there's possibilities than there probably are. First day buy if he actually goes through with it.

"I'm not interested in making Natal games for casual users, but I'm interested in making games that hardcore users always wanted to play,"

That's what I'm talking about. If Natal can give hardcore gamers a good time, then great!

[KingKionic]

Kojima likes it.

Thats a good start .

[SnuggleBandit]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I hope devs can think of more ways to use it than that because the only thing i can think of is that it will be a rail shooter or you will have to use a remote of some type along with natal(touted as hands free gaming mind you)

@ murderdolls below

no i call it like i see it...just like the eyetoy...its for casual games and is a joke (and its my opinion)

[Noctis Aftermath]

kojimas fanbase and natal fanbase are completely different.

HK = 15+

Natal = 5-12

[-MD-]

I bet you would love Natal if it had Sony slapped all over it.

You don't benefit from Sony earning money and you don't benefit from Microsoft losing money get a life.

[Natsu X FairyTail]

this guy is obvioulsy Biased so What he says is Irrelevant.

Everything he says is PRO SONY and against MS.

[Rigmaster]

"I bet you would love Natal if it had Sony slapped all over it. "

Gamers already do. It's called EyeToy:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[evrfighter]

Saakings image of premier ps3 fanboy has been shaken. Quick throw in a stealth troll about buying it used or the internet will explode.

jk jk

In all seriousness. I havn't played a MGS title since solid. But if this is coming from Saaking I think I'll have to try it out.

edit:

Kojima looks baked in that pic btw.

[JokesOnYou]

Everybody on this site knows that had sony introduced Natal all you ps3 loyalists would be screaming, "Ha ha see sony is being innovative with motion controls while micro is just following wii footsteps with a dildo wand." lol

Kojima, Kojima Productions: Natal is something “like the 2D to 3D shift, or the first time that I ever played with Family Computer [NES],”

Keiji Inafune, Capcom: "its a challenge for us to produce something beyond what we are used to doing. Iam certain Natal will bring that change. This doesn't mean its being replaced, but rather, its being enhanced."

Yozu Sakagami, Namco Bandai: "We are excited like kids with a new toy. Everyone on the team was coming up with new ideas."

Keisuke Kikuchi, Tecmo: "Our team has started planning for games to play on Natal, and we came up with 72 ideas all together."

Kenichiro Imaizumi, Kojima Productions: "Its quite revolutionary to us, we never really thought of it that way. We imagined it before but we never thought it would come so quickly. So it took us by surprise. What we will create on Natal would be something that has no limitations. Ideas from outside the box."

Toshihiro Nagoshi, Sega: "The most innovative side is its controller free and it focuses on voice recognition."

Masanori Takeuchi, From Software: "I think Natal is beyond the concept of any existing game. With Natal, I thought that we'd be able to do something new on the Xbox 360 again. I hope to expand the current gaming experience, rather than evolve gaming into something irrevelant to current games. But with Natal this becomes a possibility."

Naoki Maeda, Konami: "I'd like to create a more realistic music entertainment with Natal for my fans.z"
http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

-bu, bu, but its micro so I know it will suck, says the ps3 fanboy. lol

JOY

[bushfan]

think about a game like gears of war..prince of persia...or uncharted...and think about doing what you do in that games just using natal instead of a controller...you can duck, run or jump..natal must track every action..10 min later every1 gonna be tired of jumping ducking or running...how do you gonna do long jumps? how natal will track that motion?..many people want to sit take the pad in hand and get a lot fun playing..anothers like using wiimote..different tastes..but in the end you need a joystick, you can't do every action with a free physic control

[Domenikos]

HARDCORE gamer...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[BLuKhaos]

You know what would really be funny? If Kojima ends up making an Eyetoy game for the PS3 instead.Natal is nothing but a glorified Eyetoy ripoff.

[Sarcasm]

Maybe he could make an MGS type game, well doesn't have to be MGS but some other "Stealth Action" title.

You use the 360 controller to walk around. But you can hit a specific action button that switches to Natal. So you can walk up slowly behind the enemy, and perform a neck break or pretend like you're aiming a weapon at him to gain information. In other areas when it requires you to find informtion, you scan through similar to Minority Report.

At certain door check points it requires you to get facial recognition to open the door, thus you have to set your face in front of the TV for it to recognize that you're the character, then the door opens.

Just a few ideas. I think Kojima could do something along those lines, and I'm sold on Natal.

[beardpapa]

It'll be interesting if in the end, all these developers making hardcore games for Natal were using it for.... head tracking. Or using it for hand gestures to manipulate inventory, etc, while still requiring a controller to play the actual game. It would defeat the purpose of a controller-less device.

Edit: Sarcasm's post illustrates what I'm exactly thinking of. Which again, would defeat the concept of Natal - which is controller-free gaming.

[Cold 2000]

Wow cant wait for Kojima to make his dream game come true on the 360 with Natal.

Its going to be something...special...

[dragonelite]

Ooh oke saaking did you just say something good about the 360 im not sure if yor account is hacked or something.

[bakasora]

microsoft contacted kojima?

[4Sh0w]

Hideo Kojima "I am not interested in making games for casual users, but I'n interested in making games that hardcore users always wanted to play."

Wow, isn't that what we all want to hear? I dont see Kojima as this god-like dev he's been made out to be in the past by many on n4g, but if he's going to work on Natal thats definitely the direction we want to see this tech being used for.

[lightningsax]

This is great! Kojima Productions is beginning to spread itself out, and Natal projects will surely be part of their stuff in the future.

Can we just say right now that we still don't know what Natal will actually be at release? By the time Natal comes out, this 360 stuff will be affordable enough for PS3 owners to pick it up. If Natal is treated just as another controller and not a reason to make Wii-esque BS minigames, as this article is showing signs of, the core PS3 gamer would probably want to pick up a Box.

Both systems have a good install base now, and we'll see where that is after the holiday season. There's no reason to hope that Natal bombs - if Sony has one excellent way to play via motions, and Microsoft has another, we're going to want both. If we get good Kojima games for both, it'll reinforce that idea quickly!

Take the reverse of everything I said the same way. Both controllers could suck, we could end up with a Natal port of the MGS iPhone game, and we'll want nothing to do with it.

Who knows? I'm just happy that Kojima isn't just resting on his laurels and he's doing stuff.

[slayorofgods]

I like Kojima. But I'm still skeptical about how over developed wii ware is going to translate into the hardcore gamer realm. Despite MS buying big profile names such as Kojima to work on Natal I believe that MS would be more successful using his talents in making a game on par with his usual work (without the use of Natal).

Playing MGS with motion controls just seems weird to me. I'd prefer a controller over the air for these types of games; but maybe people prefer holding an imaginary gun in their hands and saying bang to make it shoot.

[Ron_Burgundy]

Kojima-San, it will be easy to appeal to these 2 year old peasants

[v1c1ous]

yeah right Kojima. i'm still waiting for your supposed 360 zombie MMO that you promised back in the day....

[hakis86]

Good luck to him trying to make a game with the LAG recently shown in Natal.

[happyface]

such a trator to sony

disgusting

[SKUD]

Everyone's got there price bro.

EDIT: LOL, looks like I forgot to add the /sarcasm.

[happyface]

money or not, kojima-san's xbox fanboyism is sickening

[Funky Town_TX]

I thought this guy worked for no one. Why do you care who he makes games for?

[jimbone]

He's not a traitor he is a game developer. He is not some guy in his mom's basement. He see's opportunity and how to make a new experience. He is not a sad sad fanboy with nothing better to do than sit and type negativity all day, and I personally can't wait to see what he can come up with. He hasn't let me down yet, MGS5 was awesome, as i'm sure the next 2 game will be.By the way your the traitor... to gamers, and give us a bad name so please chill with the hate.

[cmrbe]

happy face. I never knew you are a PS fan. You always supported MS.

[velcry]

@happyface: Competition between developers would only lead to better games!

It is a natural tendency for human beings to become more lax when there is no competition. If there were no Wii or Xbox this generation, might Sony not be as pompous and arrogant as they were in the early days of PS3? Would they not expect to easily dominate the market, and therefore, put less effort into things?

I offer a few examples:

1. Leaderboards - when there are leaderboards showing you how you compare against others, you put more effort into the game to become better. Like Batman's Challenge rooms. If there were no leaderboards, I might just get the medals and be done with now, but now I train even harder just to rank higher.

2. Warfare - need I say more? I'm not talking about COD, but about real wars. Wartime = greatest growth spurts of war technology, as each side races to one-up the other.

3. Other games like COD6 and FIFA/PES - Note an interesting trend. For sports games which used to dominate the market, the yearly iterations were hardly much better than the previous year's. But when there is a direct competitor, the game improves the fastest, like between FIFA and PES.

And look at modern shooters like COD6: precisely because other shooters have upped the ante, they can't afford to just put in a few new maps and weapons into COD4 and rename it COD6. They have to really up the action, the intensity, the graphics. Otherwise, people would just go, meh, this ain't much better than KZ2 or COD5 or BF2.

4. Conclusion

HK helping with Natal might sting for Sony supporters, but it actually spurs the industry on. Any ideas or innovations he makes with Natal will invariably be copied by Sony's Wand people, or Nintendo's Wii2 people too.

For me, I'm just glad someone like HK is working on Natal. That means that an industry leader is pushing the technology, and when that happens, games will improve.

[Tony P]

"did he sale his sole?"

I hope English is your second language. Regardless, please study more.

I don't know what people expect him to say... "Natal sucks?"
He's a dev and he can talk intelligently about the promise of the tech. Devs know it's not the Eye Toy. Maybe a logical evolution of it, yes. But they know that nothing in gaming can do what Natal does right now.

[cmrbe]

You guys do know that happyface is a x360 troll that is trying to make PS fans look bad right?.

@Tony: My point is you guys are spending so much time responding to him when he was just fooling you people. If you need proof just check his posting history. I happen to know him since i have been on N4G for a long time and he always do this to make PS fans look bad.

[Tony P]

Honestly couldn't tell. What's the difference between a 360 guy pretending to be a PS fanboy and a real PS fanboy? Nothing much imo.
Fanboys all have the same trademark ignorance.

[Droid Smasha]

you were the last one we were waiting for. sorry crapstation3 owners we took all your developers

[ArcticWolfUK]

haha
why are you getting excited?

"Kojima said he was also interested in the potential of the Natal's voice-recognition and motion-sensing systems to empower a machine to recognize and maybe even "understand" a person. But while he's interested in that, he thinks creators "other than him will be the ones to focus on that aspect."

read>post you fcktard

[Droid Smasha]

and I dont even have to pay him

I said keep cheering bytch

[El Botto]

Lost Planet
Ninja Gaiden
Kane and Lynch
Dead Rising
Oblivion
Bioshock (extra sweet since it received GOTY2007 from xbot reviewers who thought this game was going to be XBOX forever. SUCK ON THAT, BIATCH)
Eternal Sonata
Tales of Vesperia
Braid
Fallout DLC
Star Ocean 4

EPIC just announced that the next Gears will be on next gen consoleS. The keyword here is "consoles". Thats plural, motherfkers. Hahaha. betabox loses ANOTHER of its highly praised game.

10 bucks says Mass effect is coming too. Not IF, but WHEN.

You got something to say xbots? Hahaha SUCKERS

[SKUD]

Guess SONY's check bounced.

[chisox100]

M$ paid him 40 million for that......100$ there will be no follow up by kojima.

[MKV]

How much money was Bungie payed for playing Uncharted2?

[Funky Town_TX]

What the heck is so special about KOJIMA? This guy makes movies in the form of games. 12 hour game with 3 hours of gameplay. NO THANKS. Just show me the game and STFU.

[BWS1982]

an MGS game I see? Sad, you should. You clearly state you don't know what's so special about him, then make blatantly irrational assumptions about his work? Way to shoot down your own credibility.

I agree with Budgetgamer below, I go where the creativity goes as far as support when it comes to tech, I don't care what brand name is on it, as long it performs and is reliable, I'm interested.

[thebudgetgamer]

but if Kojima San is in i feel much more confidant about the whole thing.

:) that man is a fricken genius.

[Tainted Gene]

if Hideo-san made a remake of SNATCHER using natal, I would literally wet my pants. Imagine, freaking SNATCHER...*dreams*

[ps360master]

i look forward to seeing what natal can do and so is kojima.

im mean i personally am looking forward to use it as video chat in game possibly. i want to control my dashboard or netflix or arcade games like 1 vs 100 with my voice and my hands or both. the possibility are vast.

i look forward to you natal. thanks :)

[Bumpmapping]

Hes making a Natal game..... that's like getting excited over MGS on the i phone.

[Droid Smasha]

he is also making mgs rising. I know they dont let you out your hole much but try to keep up.

[ArcticWolfUK]

read>post

[Omega Zues]

This is Hideo Kojima...HIDEO KOJIMA. Think about that for a second.

No one and I mean NO ONE knows what this guy is up to.

All that I ask for is Zone of The Enders 3. Give me that, and I give you my blood.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

How much is MS paying him just to say too talk about Natal?

[Isaahc]

probably some new shoes, did you see his shoes? they're really stylish! i want some

[MKV]

You find it impossible for Kojima to see potential in NATAL? But trust Bungie's word that they enjoy playing Uncharted2??

Grow up! They aren't fankids like you!

[cmrbe]

but seriouly he should show something.

[devilhunterx]

Nut grabbing in MGS RISING XB2 VERSION CONFIRMED!

[vShinobi]

Stop it people your letting your fanboyism cloud your minds try and think clearly think like a gamer, as a gamer this is great news Kojima is one of the best out there can't wait to see how he brings Natal to the next level.

[HDgamer]

When Kojima has his hands on it well, it's just good.

[DevastationEve]

This is getting interesting...2010 sounds pretty good right about now, lol.

I wish him luck and much success with what he's planning for Xbox 360 :)

[TheSmoothCriminal]

This will be great, but I want to use it hands I don't want to fall into the hype, and it feels to good to be true.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Look how he made the PS3 shine with MGS4. I am more than happy if he wants to sprinkle some of his Magic Kojima Dust on Natal.

[DevastationEve]

He likes to work with history, he's a great historian. He weaves the tales of political intrigue and espionage into his cinematic experiences. He creates characters that even through such primitive consoles as the first PlayStation could move you through their sad stories (and those who could literally move you, like Psycho Mantis).

He works great wonders with whatever he's given.

Natal could further extend the reaches of those abilities, just imagine it...like grabbing a virtual tit. Man that's going to rule in MGS's infamous photo shoot mode :)

[saint_john_paul_ii]

im happy as long as he proves to people that Natal can be used as a Hardcore device.

[DevastationEve]

This is where I disagree. Hardcore is really just an attitude. It's how seriously or how laxed you are about your games. I can play Gears to Beethoven if wanted to lol. It just means how attached you are as a gamer. Sure some games are way more involving than others, like rpgs.

Natal is more than just a particular instrument for a particular game, it's going to be a suite of software and hardware designed to give developers more space to work their ideas into. It's actually very intimidating where gaming could go from here, since in truth any good game takes time. So I'm really hoping that Natal is more than just a pretense for Xbox 3. I hope that 2010-2011 really produces some new stuff...that means no victory parties Bungie, get to work on something new!

[bullaaaa]

He became greedy after MS paid him by truckloads to have MGS:Rising on Xbox 360 and at MS E3 2009 Press conference. Now he is whoring out for them. I will not be surprised if he makes the next exclusive for 360.

[DevastationEve]

Well it's just that PS3 isn't next gen anymore so he's moving on. I know, it's tough...that's what they tell you man! Never fall in love cuz they'll break your heart.

Oh, whoa...wait, what? Oh yeah, Natal is just that damn good dude. And he's just that damn much of a hard working developer. His visions for the future of gaming are always on the edge of the new. Natal is new.

edit: someone disagreed with all my comments. lol, it's great that he found the time in his busy schedule to click the button and make a difference in this world that so needs it /end sarcasm

[no_more_trolling]

need some tissue for ur tears?

[xyxzor]

I see the potential for natal to work for fighting games, but for shooters it's pratically pointless, there's so much that goes into it that you need a controller. Natal will work good for fighting games like fight night and the sony wand will be able to do wonders with the RPG genre. The problem with natal is, there is always need for a controller.

[ndibu]

Enough said...I don't know why I keep letting myself get sucked into these fanboy rants. To the rest of you that still have sense, don't bother trying to reason with fanboys, its pointless

[Double Toasted]

for PS3 fan boys. Thats right, don't let anyone disrespect Kojima, not even your own kind...

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Oh dear...he is turning...GREEN... ;-D

Am i the only 1 that won't sell my Soul to the Devil(M$)???

[BX81]

Good to see developers wanting to push tech. to get some pretty sweet games out. Why is everyone hating? Change is a good thing.

[Enigma_2099]

... but I am genuinely intrigued to see what he would like to do with it... and I hope he'd consider doing something not-MGS_related.

[TheLog]

Dear fangirls this is called TECHNOLOGY ADVANCEMENT OR EVOLUTION. If Natal is ripping of eyetoy then what do you call when a mobile phone gets invented? So mobile phone is ripping of telephone? What about tube TVs and flat LCD TVs then. Lol!

Just wait and see soon Sony will rip off Natal hehe. :)

[Bigpappy]

I with buy it just to move around the dashboard.

[kraze07]

Like I said before I'm still not jumping for joy over Natal and Kojima when the hell are you gonna start working on ZOE 3?

[Bumpmapping]

aww poor bot you only games you gave to look forward too is Playstation left overs considering every "Exclusive" is either on PC or PS3.