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I Bought Your Game, Let me Play it!

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Microsoft's money-grabbing antics are starting to irk me and have prompted this rant. It's gotten to the point where I'm expected to pay through the teeth just to be able to play the game to its fullest extent.

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qface645439d ago

i agree with you man
i mean personally im not a fan of the halo series at all its boring at least story wise anyways my friend convinced me to buy it and its real fun to play online

i just hate the fact that i have to buy some of the DLC just to play some of the better game modes online
not being able to play everything i get bored of it kinda fast since i end up playing the same bomb arming thing all the time

sunil5438d ago

You have paid for the game and its online components. You get to play the game and its online components (not all but atleast some).

Expansions are being charged. I dont see the problem here :)

HarukoHex5438d ago (Edited 5438d ago )

Umm >.> seeing how you it would be unfair to the people who actually paid. Cod does that. WoW does it as well. everygame does it now that I think of it. if it has DLC its usually required to play certain game modes. I wonder why. IDK maybe because its something that adds to the game.

*below*

IDK the fact I don't have to use skype to comunicate withsome one, the fact that (on a personal level) I have less lag on my live then i do on PSN, The fact its just so much easier to talk with and communicate with people to make friends as well. to hold custom partys because you can go to your recent players list and just invite people. there are loads of reasons why, the only reason you don't know and insult it is because you don't have a live account. get one actually try it and you will see why so many people pay that bit of money every month.

its the same reason why would someone pay for cable when they get channels threw the air. BECAUSE ITS BETTER.

Chubear5438d ago

It's just crazy how anyone supports MS. I just don't get it.

So PS3 gamer gets CoD4: Can play SP and MP online all year round and paid $60 for game.

360 gamer gets CoD4 but has silver service: Still pays the same 60bucks but can only have access to half of the game. To get all game he/she paid for, an additional 50bucks has to be charged (more if they like the game to play it for years)

... WHY DO YOU SUPPORT THIS?! No, I'm serious here. I'd really like to understand the rational behind having a 360 as your primary gaming entertainment console and having silver service.

Blaze9295438d ago

Why is Microsoft the one at question here? Activision does this, hell EA has been doing this for YEARS when they deactivate servers for online games.

AhemZasan5438d ago

Let me lay it out for you from my perspective.

I enjoy video games and I'm willing to pay for whatever experience I wish to enjoy. If the PSN weren't free I'd pay for it too. If I had to pay $50 for every single game I play over XBL I'd probably be a little less inclined to support MS, but $50 a year is not the financial rape that so many people attempt to make it out to be. Good lord, look at WOW's monthly charges for example, and that's just for one single game. Oh yeah, I forgot, the PC is the greatest gaming system of all time so I shouldn't be making such statements. My bad.

It's pretty simple really, if I want it I buy it. I apologize if it irritates you, it's just how I am. That's why I'm willing to spend $60 on some games on day 1, while others would say I'm an idiot because they want to wait a few months for the price to drop.

Rather than hating on business models maybe you should just count your blessings and enjoy gaming the way you choose.

danthaman155438d ago

1. Because all my friends are on Xbox

2. All I do is ask for a 1-year supscription every christmas from my family. BAM, problem solved for me.

3. Say what you want about PS3 being better (I have one) but Xbox also has a lot of great features , just like PS3. $50, not the end of the world.

I don't support paying for it, but hell, I don't care so much that it changes my purchase. By purchasing it, we don't support it- we never said we did (well, the fanboys, but not all of us are fanboys, don't stereotype). But we're able to put up with it, because the Xbox is FUN. Saying it sucks is an opinion, nothing more. I have fun with it, that's all that matters to me. I love all 3 consoles, and no angry nerds typing in all caps in an internet forum will change that.

I know everyone is gonna just spam "Disagree", but hey, you asked, I gave my reason without being a fanboy.

--joshua--5438d ago (Edited 5438d ago )

you said you don't support paying for it, i guess because your family pays for it as a chrismas present. If they didn't, would you pay for it yourself? Those statements just seemed odd to me.
I agree $50 isn't the end of the world, it might hurt you at first but say 4 months down the road one wouldn't miss that $50 and then you would still have another 8 months to go. That's how I look at it anyway.

edit: just read your comment a little deeper, and just wanted to add that if I didn't support something, I just wouldn't buy it. Anything. You stated you don't support paying the fee, but you put up with it anyway, because it's FUN. And maybe also because there is no choice in the matter and you don't actually pay for it out of your own pocket. Well that's my view of it. I must respectfully disagree. No spamming involved ;)

danthaman155438d ago

I support what Xbox Live is, I don't support what you must do to access it= pay. But I respect your disagree. At least you're intelligent and don't rush to "Disagree" as soon as you see "Xbox" and "like" in the same sentence.

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wardrox5439d ago

I don't play that often, but it really sucks when I want to play some Halo, only to find half the fun game types have become unavailable because I don't want to pay even more.

Trebius5438d ago

But I agree they're much more blatant and severe with the way they overcharge...

But to be honest they've been overcharging from the beginning with their crap peripherals...Hard drives, HDMI, battery chargers (wtf), online gaming, so on so forth...

No matter what though people out there will buy and continue to feed this dirty habit. Im one of the few that dont support DLC or hard drives that sell for 150 bucks when they should be just 50.

Karum5438d ago

Genuine question here. why do you mention HDMI in your list? I mean I agree with the rest of it because I think MS are extortionate with some of their accessories but not sure what you're getting at with the inclusion of HDMI. Do they make their own branded cable that is also ridiculously priced?

Golfcoachh5438d ago (Edited 5438d ago )

like the ps3 one I saw at best buy for 100 bucks?
Edit: That was a sony brand PS3 cable, I would never do that I have all the hdmi I need, but it was a reference to the above statement about msoft charging too much for hdmi. Who would spend that much on a cable.

Godmars2905438d ago (Edited 5438d ago )

Is that a specific Sony brand HDMI cable that only works with the PS3, or is it a third party brand that works on anything that needs one?

If so, could I recommend monoprice.com? You can get cables for $5.

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nostalgic_noob5438d ago

The story is non existent.
Online sucks hard
Reused sounds from other games.
etc etc etc
Only sheep would buy that game.

sack_boi5438d ago (Edited 5438d ago )

So... you've played the game right; coz you seem to know a lot about it?

If not, then you're just as retarded as the people that hate on Killzone without even playing it.

nostalgic_noob5438d ago

Infact I bought it at launch and I have the T-shirt,Key chain and Poster it came with to prove it. My Gamertag is Kavkazip check it out for yourself. well After i Beat the game i returned it because the online sucked. Why do i have to wait 30 minutes to join one match. The community for Halo sucks the gameplay is boring and there is nothing good or fun about it. Maybe my Standards are too high because I come from a backround of old school gaming.

HarukoHex5438d ago (Edited 5438d ago )

no wonder you hated halo, XD you sucked at it.
http://www.bungie.net/stats...
less the a 1.0 KD ratio. rofl.

as well you only beat the game on normal man, just because you suck at a game is no reason to hate it. XD how childish.

but heres what i don't get generic games as you say, are usually really easy because they play like other games.why do you think there generic. XD your just falling and falling. man like i said just because you suck at a game is no reason to hate it. XD as well if your loosing to some kids you really suck, ive yet to run into a kid whos even slightly good at halo.

nostalgic_noob5438d ago

Halos Main Game sucked ass so there was no point in going back to play again.

Second the online was sh1ttastic, you got little kids screaming at you from left to right and the gameplay is so generic and boring that you have no motivation in becoming an expert at it. I really wanted to like that game but it failed on every level possible.

AhemZasan5438d ago

Oh my bad, I was too busy being a sheep and actually playing a game to have fun. Were you saying something about a game that you hate on a system that you hate? Maybe something with absolutely zero objectivity? Yeah, I thought so. Now please share some more irrelevant banter in the form of fan-douchery and haterocity.

AhemZasan5438d ago

"Only sheep would buy that game."

"Infact I bought it at launch"

nostalgic_noob5438d ago

I had a Xbox 360 before the PS3, But after my system RRODd on me twice and Microsoft Customer Support was telling me its my fault cause I played Gears of war for 4 hours straight I had enough. I sold my Xbox they sent me and bought A PS3 and I never looked back. The PS3 made me see how bad the 360 really is. Halo is the worst game this Generation and anyone who thinks its remotly good needs to be banned from Gaming cause its those Xbots that are Killing gaming.

AhemZasan5438d ago

You have just proven your objectivity beyond any shadow of a doubt. My apologies for believing in a world where every console has it's purpose. I will now bow before the altar of fanboyism and choose one specific console as the creator of all fun.

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mrv3215438d ago

And on top of that you have to pay for live. It's like with Battlefield 1943 it has it's own servers (EA ones) yet your gold free goes to Microsoft.

6 out of 15 is pretty limited I must say but then again people buy it I won't I'll guess I'll have to suffer playing Resistance 2, Battlefield Bad Company and Burnout Paradise... what a shame.

ZEEBO4LIFESTFU5438d ago

Microsoft is the only company who does this , oh that's right,it's n4g that thinks that.

mrv3215438d ago

Last I checked Microsoft are the only console makers to charge for online.

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15 Great Games Where Every Minute of the Experience Feels Earned

GB: "We take a look at 15 amazing games that had the perfect length."

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coolbeans8d ago

Pretty good list. Botany Manor would be the newest addition that encapsulates that title.

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Anyone else not blown away with graphics these days? Me neither

Talal writes: "I'm talking about having that rush of excitement - that feeling you get when you know you've just made a memory for a lifetime."

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OptimusDK11d ago

There are different games. Some have gamplay at it highest priority, some have the story, some have the replay value and choices... There are a lot of different game experiences.

It is laughable that just now graphics does not have anything to do with that experiene. We have had many games of that type over time. This is just the one that have come closest to feel like playing an actual movie. Just look the the Digital foundry walkthrough it is a masterpiece in that perspective and hence wrth trying. But yes do not do it for the gameplay - but that was never the goal of this experience.

GamerRN11d ago

It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!

Lightning7711d ago

Pretty much my thoughts. They were technical marvel's on PS and still are. The moment Xbox puts out a graphically intense game is doesn't matter suddenly.

4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. Glad to finally see it in its glory.

fr0sty11d ago

FFS, gaming journalism has really gone downhill. At least hire people with a basic grasp of grammar... "Me neither" means the exact opposite of what the "author" is trying to say. That's like saying "I could care less"... lol.

S2Killinit11d ago

Maybe because the gameplay being dull allowed it to have the amazing graphics and people are not as impressed by graphics alone anymore? I mean there is a lot of sites saying the story and the gameplay are lackluster. So what are we supposed to enjoy then? Cgi graphics are beautiful but since they arent interactive, they dont impress me as much as they used to. Thats an extreme example, but you get my drift.

Terry_B11d ago

When Playstation (Sony) does it..its usually a great game and not a cinematic experience..or at least something new at the time..like Until Dawn back in 2015.

1Victor10d ago

@gamer:” It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!”

The game looks as good as any other PlayStation game in my eyes why can’t you and the other hardcore Xbox be happy about it and drag PlayStation into every conversation and force PlayStation hardcore to look into the game and find flaw that most games have in one way or another.
@light: “ 4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. ”
Yes at that time it was only possible on PlayStation SSD how ignorant of you to think that after 4 years the technology wouldn’t evolved and move to a industry standard 🤦🏿I wish your mentality wasn’t so naive and narrow to post stuff like that 😩 in a year or 2 a new game will come out that might look better, it’s the nature of the industry.

Now that the distraction is gone I feel that is a good thing that the graphics in games are starting to hit the rooftop and hopefully the developers will put more thoughts into story and gameplay mechanics than just the next shiny oily skin of old.

Reaper22_10d ago

So true. Not surprised by all the negativity. It's a really good game and looks better than any game I've ever seen. GOTY nominee for sure. Like I said before, sony screwed up big time by not purchasing Ninja Theory.

Asplundh10d ago

Pretty much. It's like how the Switch and Steam controller using haptic feedback in their controllers wasn't a big deal but then Sony did it and it was then a "game changer".

fr0sty10d ago

The game runs at as low as 21fps... That isn't much to brag about no matter how good it looks.

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MajorLazer10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

We've had graphical gamechangers before, such as Crysis but those games still had gameplay to compliment it. Hellblade pretty much has none, and only achieved such graphics through being incredibly linear and having very small, closed off environments where very little is happening.

Vx_10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

GFX does not mean anything if the game is boring. It is simple like that and these major companies need to understand this simple concept.

Games are like your lady, she may be beautiful to look at for a while but then it gets boring if her character isn't interesting and fun to be with.

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Kneetos11d ago

Mario kart 8 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sonic188111d ago

Horizon forbidden West has great graphics and great gameplay

GamerRN11d ago

Yeah but graphics don't matter, remember?

anast10d ago

@RN

I've been pretty consistent in saying that we need both.

GamerRN9d ago

So until dawn, too human, or whatever those series of games were... Graphic masterpieces it garbage with no gameplay?

VincentVanBro11d ago

I agree and I actually think Forbidden West looks better than Hellblade 2. I easily prefer looking at it at least.

Sonic188110d ago

It does look better in my opinion as well. I don't know why it looks better but there's something about the Decima engine or that guerrilla games is using tricks that we don't know of

Abear2110d ago

Can you fly a mount under water in Hellblade 2? I think not! One of the best moments this Gen

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Two Decades Later, the Original Splinter Cell is Still a Masterpiece

They don't make games like this anymore.

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vgvill20d ago

Too dated in my book. The AI is way too unpredictable to be acceptable today. It's definitely a game of its time.

Jingsing19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Agreed with those sentiments. The quality of the CPU controlled characters make or break a stealth game and they are pretty poor in all the Splinter Cell games by today's standard. This is what led me to playing Spies vs Mercs all the time in later games just to get a better stealth experience from a real person. Arguably Sony are making better stealth games albeit not Tom Clancy stuff.

TheProfessional19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

You should stick with fortnite or one of the countless bloodborne style games then. What a joke.

rlow119d ago

I had a good time with the game. It is a product of its time. But when it came out it was a must have game for a lot of people. I wish Ubisoft would make another game in the series or at least a reboot.

vgvill19d ago

They are making a remake, I think. I loved the original game when it was released, but I tried to play it again in recent years and just couldn't get on with it. The same with the older Hitman games.

PrecursorOrb19d ago

Yeah chaos theory still holds up though I gotta say. If you’re a fan of the series I highly suggest you go back to that one. Ubi has said they are remaking sc for “modern audiences”. I don’t have a lot of faith for the future of that company

Chocoburger19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Due to the lack of modern stealth games, and me constantly playing the MGS series, I've been looking for alternative stealth games to play, and went back and re-played the SC series recently. I wouldn't call SC1 or SC:PT masterpieces, there are AI issues, they're very much trial-and-error games, and that can lead to a lot of frustration. I also found the stories in this series to be boring, uninteresting, and just sloppily told. Cinematics are also of poor quality for both in-game scenes and CG cut-scenes, the soundtrack didn't leave any impression on me either.

Chaos Theory is better, but there was still a lot of room for improvement, and Double Agent (old gen ver.) was a sloppy mess that ended up a regression from CT. But still, at least they tried back then, these days Ubi-junk doesn't even try to make good games!

HvNzSoul11d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnessacery Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games.

HvNzSoul11d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnecessary Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games, they just weren't 100% focused on stealth with Conviction and they remedied that in Blacklist. The only thing they have released recently that I was disappointed with was Watch Dogs Legion, and Skull & Bones. Everyone seems to be salty about the misleading trailer for the original Watch Dogs and The Division. Which are also, both good games, and actually Watch Dogs seems like it was ahead of its time even with all the trailer drama (having gone back and played recently, can say the game didnt deserve all the flak). Yeah the misleading E3 trailer that had better graphics than release is understandable to a very small degree, when most Teaser Trailers, or Game Demo's only have that portion of the game developed so they use the highest quality assets of w/e they have being showed, or what they are showing was made purely for the showing, allowing for extra polish . As to the gripes about minor game design changes, or cut features upon a games release just goes to show how unknowledgeable most gamers are in terms of how game development works or to even understand what what the hell a WIP, let alone titles still in early development.

Good games from Ubi since 2014 (Year that SC Blacklist Released) include:

Watch Dogs 1 & 2
The Division 1 & 2 (Although I had a hard time getting into The Division 2 at first)
R6 Siege
Ghost Recon Wildlands & Breakpoint
Immortals Fenyx Rising
AC Origins, Odyssey, MIrage (Haven't finished Valhalla games too damn long)
Far Cry Primal, and 5 (6 also has a length issue)
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora
Prince Of Persia The Lost Crown

Haven't played a couple of titles those being For Honor (played at launch but didn't honestly give it an actual go), The Crew, R6 Extraction and at the time of writing this xDefiant.

Even if you absolutely hated any of the above titles, they aren't inherently bad games, they're just good, but not always top quality either.

I say give Ubi credit where credit is due, they at least fix games post launch if they start out rough, Breakpoint is an excellent example this and is such an enjoyable experience now compared to it's launch.