Should EA Apologize to Christians?

PS3 Informer writes:

"By treating Christian religious beliefs in a trivial and cynical fashion for commercial purposes, Electronic Arts has clearly decided that it is OK to make fun of certain minority groups, as long as they are not well represented in the gaming industry. What about racial or sexual minorities? Would Take Two Interactive dare stage a fake protest by the Latino community to make fun of their sensitivity to race in Grand Theft Auto games? Would Microsoft laugh in the face of gay and lesbian groups who were banned from Xbox Live because of their sexuality?

Electronic Arts has probably anticipated the backlash, and weighed it against the benefit of free advertising. Of course, the purpose of any viral publicity stunt is to shock and amuse people, and it that sense it has been successful."

[clinker]

Interesting argument, but I think Christian wingnut fundamentalists deserve all the abuse they get.

On the other hand, EA does have a reputation for being evil so, I can't make up my mind on this one.

[evrfighter]

Christians should apologize to us for giving us that crap pc game that is "Left Behind: Eternal Forces"....

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Should we tolerate intolerance? Intolerance towards logic, truth, and reason? NO.

Christians should be the ones apologizing if anyone. Anyone who thinks that we should run our lives according to an archaic set of beliefs created by a people far less sophisticated than us thousands of years ago should never be taken seriously.

[mintaro]

I do not follow....

[Awesome Possum]

The bible teaches us do good. So why are christians dumb to follow it?

[menoyou]

Gays, blacks, feminists, etc. all demand apologies constantly for ridiculous things so, sure, why not apologize to Christians too?

If this was about one of them you all would be "oh das racist" or "oh EA is homophobic omg!" but since it's Christians... then it doesn't matter right? Double standard hypocrite teenagers with zero logic or consistency... and that's the future of our civilization. Pathetic.

[Parapraxis]

Awesome Possum, the bible also says that men are to kill non-believers and kill mothers and keep the female children of the slaughtered for your own personal use.
http://www.evilbible.com/Mu...

You are to stone to death any child who disrespects (curses) it's parent.
http://www.openbible.info/t...

You are not to covet thy neighbours chattel, cattle or servants.
http://www.evilbible.com/Sl...

So, infanticide, genocide and slavery are ok. not to mention being the primary root of antisemitism.

The bible teaches us do terrible deeds as well. So why are christians dumb to follow it?

[Jaces]

Kratos went to hell....well Hades but it's all the same.

[LoVeRSaMa]

If christians dont like it, then they should not play it simple as.

EA is a world wide company, Christians that radical only exist in America...

EA should not take crap from relegios ignorance that does not concern them.

[Awesome Possum]

Except that those could of been into place by humans and not by God. And note how after Jesus came you didnt have to follow those rules because he made where you dont have to follow them to get into heaven. But yes I agree in the modern time that those rules could be considered evil.

[blackpanther25]

yeah i bet all that is from the old testament. If you do read a bible you would know that the new testament basically says all those things people were doing in the old testament are wrong. Which is why Christianity and Islam are very different(the sharia laws laws are based of the old testament and Mohammad's teachings)

[Parapraxis]

Awesome Possum
"Except that those could of been into place by humans and not by God."
So the holy scriptures are not of divine decree?
And if after Jusus we are able to ignore anything we so please is there a purpose in adhering to any parts at all?

I think that we as societies have evolved morally in spite of the Bible or other sacred texts.
100 years ago slavery was acceptable and now it is not, just like women have the same rights as men now where they did not before.
Unfortunately there are still women who are being oppressed by indoctrination in the world today, but hopefully for them as well they will rise above the prejudices put forth by their religion and come to the realization that many already have.

We know right from wrong and it's as much human nature as it is from societal circumstance.

blackpanther25, I was a Christian for 18 years of my life, I was in a youth group and was an alter boy.
I have read the bible.
The New Testament is wrought with contradiction. And when people are trying to evangelize a new religion they will adjust accordingly, whether it be making the Romans less vulgar by making Pontius Pilate out to be some sort of hero (he was a cruel cruel man) or whether it be incorporating modern scientific discoveries in attempts to remain even remotely relevant and to avoid ridicule (yes the Earth isn't the center of the universe)

blackpanther25, black magic and voodoo..hmm let me have a stab at it.
http://richarddawkins.net/a...
It's very long, but highly educational.
it deals with Schizotypal personality disorder, which reasons that people who were witch doctors, sages, voodoo practinioners and the likes are actually a common part of society and all societies have their own versions.
Most commonly in Christain belief it would be those who communicate with god.

[Awesome Possum]

That is what im trying to say so bub up to you. edit didnt hit the disagree button either Tony

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

I was just eyeballin' my neighbors cattle, thinkin' to myself, I could really go for some covetin' right now.

Once again, the bible saves the day /sarcasm

Apparently the bible also teaches to hit the disagree button like a bunch of cowards.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[blackpanther25]

yeah man i agree with you. i mean people have different reasons for believing in things. I'm african and if you can come up with an explanation for black magic (or vodoo to people) i can believe you.

EDIT: i didn't give you a disagree Tony you can believe in anything you want. Like i don't believe in Darwin's theory of evolution (specifically at that time and not anymore) because he states black people are closer to apes and thus lower "sub humans"

so yeah dude it can go both ways. Why would i as a black man listen to what Darwin said about evolution and believe since his theory is biased

"The Descent of Man (1871), Darwin ranked races in terms of what he believed was their nearness and likeness to gorillas. Then he went on to propose the extermination of races he "scientifically defined as inferior."

"On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life, they might have gained some inkling of the racism propagated by this controversial theorist. Had they actually read Origin, they likely would be shocked to learn that among Darwin's scientifically based proposals was the elimination of "the negro and Australian peoples, which he considered savage races whose continued survival was hindering the progress of civilization."

[Parapraxis]

blackpanther25, throwing out such a brilliant set of ideas due to the fact that society at that point was still full of bigots is not good.
Many people who made huge impacts on our world that were positive held personal beliefs which we regard as detestable now.

I won't disagree with Darwin, because I believe the evidence is so readily available all showing that all peoples came from Africa.
This does not put Africans on a lower tier.
It shows us we are all related, and all descend from a handful of tribes, some who ventured out from Africa and some that remained in their motherland.
(There was no way Darwin could have done genealogy studies, and unfortunately on top of that, slavery was common and the black man was treated as a commodity, it's effing gross)

If Africans were significantly different than whites/asians/hispanic/native american/etc we would not be able to breed.
We are ALL humans, we should all treat each other as brothers and sisters.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/progra...
"The Incredible Human Journey

Dr Alice Roberts travels the globe to discover the incredible story of how humans left Africa to colonise the world"

blackpanther25, you definitely did not watch that whole seminar, it is almost 2 hrs long.
I really encourage you to see it before you claim voodoo to be anything that is unique or different to any other form of mysticism.
And just to be clear, I don't think that christianity is any more reasonable than voodoo.

You hit the nail on the head.
Theories NEVER claim to be 100% correct, that would NOT be a theory, just to correct you on that point.
Religions however do.

There is a stark difference. And yes, the parts that were racist have been passed by now because they are seen as foolish and dated and wrong, however that is the point of science. To learn more and disprove what we believe. Hence the name "theory", although with Evolution I think most of us can safely say it's bordering on the "FACT of evolution" at this point in our understanding of the world.

EDIT:
"and lol i don't need to see something that is ingrained into my culture."
Yes, you should actually, it doesn't talk just about YOUR culture, it tackles a common psychological trend in ALL cultures.

I tackled Christianity, and it was ingrained in MY culture.

Being inquisitive and seeking knowledge is very important.

blackpanther25 last comment bro.
Just want to ask if you think it's okay for people to believe whatever they want to believe, even if that belief tells them they have a right to kill innocent people, strap bombs to themselves, beat their women & children and commit other crimes?
=)

[blackpanther25]

Good expalaination for vodoo unfortunately it is not that. Vodoo located in certain parts of american, hati, brazil, and other places originate from the yoruba religion. In that religion there are many lesser gods like osun, ondo, and etc. The thing about vodoo is that if interpretated by christans these "gods" are so-called fallen-angels (demons). Do i believe that idk. What i do know is that my great-grandfather (who was 115 by the time) had a necklace which he claimed stopped any bullet from hurting him. While we were hunting i called his bluff and he told me to shot him in the chest. I refused so he took my gun and shot himself. There were no bullets or anything. When he did 5 years later he specifically wrote a will saying i would have to perform and ritual and keep his necklace.

Will i shoot myself? no
But seeing someone shot themselves at point-blank range has to do something to you

Edit: i mean i didn't say everybody who believes in the theory believes that. Of course scientists will have corrected that stupid mistake. I'm just saying people tend to believe in different things that just how it is. I still believe some parts of the theory could be true, but look Darwin was racist and if the theory was 100% correct it wouldn't be called a theory would it. Now just to let you know i have a degree in biology so i like to look at both sides of the coin

and lol i don't need to see something that is ingrained into my culture. I am Nigerian and of the Yoruba tribe and half of my family members pratice it.The difference is that you look at it from an outside view, but for me it's a part of the society my parents are from. As a matter of fact the rituals form hati are in my language. i saw a documentary on vodoo in hati and laughed becaue everything they were saying(incantations that they don't even know the meaning) i can understand it.

[blackpanther25]

I agree with you too people try to make religion as if it is 100%. There are contradictions and etc. I don't force it down people neck that is why enjoyed talking to you and tony. I just use it and other things to explain the things that happen in my life. It makes the world run smoother if everybody believes in something whether it be science, religion, aliens it's all good to me.

Me i'm just mixed i believe that life on other planets could be real because of my pursuit of science, but yet at the same time in my religion they don't exist

Edit: "blackpanther25 last comment bro.
Just want to ask if you think it's okay for people to believe whatever they want to believe, even if that belief tells them they have a right to kill innocent people, strap bombs to themselves, beat their women & children and commit other crimes?
=)"

LOL don't quote me on that lol. I have a few relatives who are muslim but even they are against terrorists. I mean in the would we live in there will always be people who will take advantage of someone's beliefs, values, and customs and use it for their own gain. I mean hitler wasn't religious but he still found a way for Germans to hate jews. Look at the crusadiers a lot of people don't know that they went around killing jews and muslims. Around that time you would have to pay to be forgiven. What i am trying to say that it is just human nature for some individuals to play on the beliefs of others to use it for their own personal agenda

EDIT: bub to you and tony. I usually can't have conversations like this in the public without someone getting offended

[SoapShoes]

You guys are all as bad as extremists for saying Christians deserve what they get. You are no better than people who hate on gays and spit on minorities. I love the double standards, but you are so blind with prejudice that you can't even see how you and nutjobs are so alike.

[Parapraxis]

Estranged, (suitable name BTW)

Now tell me how many people choose their race, sexual orientation or gender?
PS: nobody
Now how many choose their religion?
PS: everybody

See, it's not that hard, and I certainly wouldn't do the horrible things you suggest, actually until you posted those thoughts hadn't crossed my mind.
Which leads me to ask... why are you so angry?

Last post, i'm off for some eats.
Thanks for the interesting convos guys :)

[Awesome Possum]

yeah its been fun talking to you guys without somebody saying stupid and if i came out as one of those christians (i am a christian though) that get angry at the slightest thing im sorry bub up to everybody

[blackpanther25]

yeah sorry bub to you too.

EDIT: @below

unfortunately there are a lot of extreme christans. i mean look at the devinci code even though it was just a novel they were blowing it out of proportion. Look at abortion many extreme christans are against it including rape and incest(some reasons for abortion).

Personally i like Dante's inferno

this is not geared towards, but i wonder why protestants in the US have lost their way. It is very different from the catholic religion because protestants believe in the bible and not in another man's interpretations, but yet people listen to pastors like sheeps instead of reading the bible. Protestant sub-religion is against catholic sub-religion because they believe they shouldn't force anything on anybody, but yet they try to force no abortion onto people who are not the same religion. they are becoming another form of the catholic church.

[djevolve420]

EVOLUTION AND WHY YOU SHOULD BELIEVE IN IT.

To start you off Evolution in 2005 was proven to work at Michigan state university by computer simulation. The simulation has been going on in Michigan states Digital Evolution Laboratory for ten years. Digital organism mutating and forming new life forms within it’s cluster of 200 computer’s, doing so at a alarming rate. This is big because they are actually watching evolution as it happens in front of there eyes. May not be a actual living organism but it is based off Darwin’s theory.
If that is not enough proof for you. Why is it that flu’s, viruses, and disease all evolve and mutate. So how does this change for us. I would think that the bigger the creature the longer that it would take to rule out unnecessary body, organ parts or adding new and improved ones. What I’m saying is that it would take a lot longer for evolution to take place if it is needed.
People seem to think that evolution is suppose to move in one direction or the other, when actually it goes with what best fits survival. Look at the bottom of the ocean floor, Littered with creatures that live with no sun light, pressure that would crush us to a pulp and they live off the vents poisons’ that would be deadly to us. Surviving there enviroment is key to evolution.
This leads us to our next conflict, religion vs. science. There is no doubt I’m a scientist in my beliefs. However this does not mean I don’t believe in god. I think the bible is a moral story, but that’s it, a story. Just like the rest of the religions. If you read the bible it’s full of contradictions, doesn’t take you long to realize that this could have been written by anyone or by more then one person. I do believe in doing good deeds and god, I just think no one has a clue what is really going to happen when we die. Quantum theory seems to have some good suggestions in what could be or could not, in a scientific prospective. This will have to wait until Another time though. Info http://video.google.com/vid... copy and paste. Watch the illusion of reality
or http://library.thinkquest.o...

The bible’s story has been imbedded into our minds since we where children. The fear of god. The passion but yet fear, fear, fear. They should replace faith with fear. People need to put facts where there mouths are. At least supporting facts. I think that society should not have to be told or threatened by god to do the right thing, but should do the right thing anyway.
It’s about time we stop believing in fallacies that don’t add up. What is the main reason people believe in Christianity? I would have to think it is because of the threat of being tortured for all of eternity, if you don’t believe or follow rules. For one, this does not make sense, perfection would fix a problem. Think, if you got tortured for eternity, what in your life time could you actually do that would add up to the amount of pain and torture? you couldn’t possibly do that much. So wouldn’t this conflict with logic and Christian belief.
Guess not but then again we let them get away with everything. Galileo Galilei was persecuted by the Catholic Church for his heretical belief that the earth revolves around the sun. Giordano Bruno was charged with heresy for not believing in the bible. Also for thinking that the night stars where other suns like our own. This type of freedom of thought was not permitted back then. The Catholic Church locked him up for 7 years in prison. He was offered freedom, if he would recant. He scoffed at the very idea, and told the bishops and priests who condemned him to death, "Perchance your fear in passing judgment on me is greater than mine in receiving it." .Bruno was later burned to death at romes Campo de’ Fiori on ash wed. to prove a point. The church destroyed so much knowledge that it took Western civilization almost 1700 years to arrive where the pagan Greeks were, in 300 BCE.
You can say, well that is not what the bible says. For one the bible is so metaphorical. Look at how many religions you have off one book. So why where the Christians so quick to try and quiet and oppress people.
Simple really, it’s all bull to keep you under control and not think outside the box. If you do then you should simply be shot or killed as far as they are concerned. Learn for yourself don’t be told or scared into a belief system. Fact, more people died off religion then any other reason. Millions upon millions died. A lot of love there huh.

http://video.google.com/vid...

http://discovermagazine.com...

Michigan state experiment
http://discovermagazine.com...
Bruno http://www.newyorker.com/ar...

[yog-sothot]

Parapraxis, thank you for your links, this is really funny !

"Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him."

LOL ! ;-D

[xwabbit]

Wth r u talking about, i dk what bible is that but the REAL CHRISTIAN BIBLE says respect every 1, and gives u guidelines to live a happy and healthy life.

@djevolve420
Evolution is still in its theory state, not fact.

[djevolve420]

@ xwabbit

so what state is the bible, it's next to santa clause, easter bunny, angels, batman and superman. another thing the bible teaches of vengeance and death to who don't believe.
you are brain washed bad, the bible is negative from the start, we are fallen people because eve eat a apple. so why are we being blamed for eve"s mistakes, so let me rob a bank and everyone should get locked up with me. second, sin, your a sinner, I'm a sinner, hold up; What? everyone is s(&t compared to god and your nothing with out him, sounds pretty negative to me.

happiness comes from your self, not god, not humpty dumpty or the tooth fairy. get over it kid your scared of h-ll and thats why you believe. all rules of logic and intelligence go out the window when you believe in religion.

don't forget to slander some one in your neighbor hood because you are a christian and they are not.

oh yea almost forgot, evolution is a fact, survival of the fittest is a theory. guy.......

[djevolve420]

what do you think of quantum physics? also, have you seen the movie, what the bleep down the rabbit hole? kind of lame acting but really does put a good fight to what is really going on.

do you have your own web site,if so, hook it up.

you got some info i would like to access.

EDIT: I just seen you used up all your bubble's. well I will find another way to talk. found the info I read through interesting, will read the rest later.

[evrfighter]

The bible was basically trying to teach me to believe in fairies so I stopped reading it.

and remember kids. If you ever come across a light-of-god freak and you ask him a question and he can't answer. There must be a guide these guys get because they start rambling on about how the devil did it.

[xwabbit]

the bible hasn't brainwashed anything in me cus i haven't read it lol see how wrong u are. Im christian but not cus of the bible, i haven't even read it, when u see a family member of urs dying and u say god if u save my mom ill give u my live and the next day when u go to see her shes back on her feet again and doctors are saying wtf ? then u believe. Its something u feel and not see, yeah love isn't real cus we don't see it ? plz and evolution is no fact

A lot of people go to god in their moments of desperation, maybe one day ull need gods help or maybe you'll have so much pride 2 do that

[Cenobia]

First of all why the he11 are we talking about religion on a gaming site, and why the he11 has everyone started to attack Christians?

WTF have we done to you lately? I honestly don't give a sh1t if you're atheist, so why does it seem like every other person on the internet is the Jehovah's witness of atheism? You people preach atheism like a preacher preaches religion, but somehow you're better? When did things like 'thou shalt not kill' become horrible rules to live by? Maybe you shouldn't judge an entire group of people based on a few whackjobs. Talk about intolerance.

How about this. Everyone stfu and go back to talking about how much the xbox/ps3/wii sucks.

[JL]

There's nothing wrong with the "thou shalt not kill/thou shalt not steal" type rules that are presented in the bible (btw, these didn't originate in the bible, they just were integrated in there from outside rules). On that note, the theory of Santa Claus also teaches us to be good, lest we won't get special gift from Santa (sound familiar?). But it would be detrimental and a serious hindrance to society if we all still believed in fairy tales like that. Gott ist tot. read some Nietzsche to understand more how the religion (the sci-fi/mystical/afterlife part of it) really hinders us as a society.

[djevolve420]

what about your mom getting it in the first place to make you miserable, so why did he not stop it in the first place, he can do it right. besides christianity is off the bible, you know how ridicules you sound.
the bible = christanity = you fail.......................... ......

second
things happen by chance and numbers all the time. people think that because they said it inside there head it made it happen, aaant, wrong.if so, you need to study quantum physics, watch the movie, what the bleep do we know?.

people dye and live through all kinds of sh-t daily whether or not you say anything or not. so what does it have to do with it in the first place.

it's odds, some you lose, some you win and when she does dye and I'm saying this as lightly as possible. I don't like to put it this way but it will happen, it will happen to everyone, unless we become intelligent enough to cheat death. you will ask god again and when it doesn't come to what you wanted, so then what are you going to say?

Third
what about the girl that gets raped and asks for gods help and no saver shows.
he doesn't work that day. come on.

study Quantum physics.
http://moviesfoundonline.co...
here watch it for free.

[xwabbit]

lol djevolve420 believe what u want bro, I'm happy and healthy. Everything happens for a reason :)

[sutton32]

No way should they apologise. Religion is the reason for everything wrong in this world. There is no such thing as god, jesus will not save you. Get off your high horses and welcome to the real world!

[Parapraxis]

While I agree with your sentiments, being a little less offensive will help you avoid a lot of stress.
Athiests are in the minority, unfortunately, and screaming that there is no god at people really won't get you very far.
Think constructively and deliberately speak your points.
;)

[qface64]

while its true that many of today's more serious problems are caused by extremist in the religion field
you have to stop and think for a sec if all religions were proven to be false one day that would cause more problems in the world than all the extremist out there combined

sure religion has its ups and downs but if people wanna believe in it let them

anyways HELL x] nah EA should not apologize whatsoever

[heroicjanitor]

It is a mass delusion where people believe that a benevolent zombie will rise from a 2000 year(which will increase depending on when he decides to arrive) slumber and save all of humanity by putting them in his dad's house. You couldn't make this sh*t up...

[mintaro]

Wow man that wasn't offensive at all.....and just for fun why do you believe there is no God?

[Syronicus]

Last I knew, the Bible said that "people will be willingly ignorant"... Just saying, that if you want to say there is no God, then fine, by all means, nock yourself out. Honestly however, try doing it in a more tactful manner as not to come off as a prick.

As for the EA apologizing to Christians argument... imagine what the company would do if they offended Muslims. I have heard of wars nearly breaking out over comics that mock Islam... You can imagine how fast their press release would hit the papers if the case were some other religion. It's pathetic how people just can't respect others for differing beliefs these days.

[ijkabob]

EA shouldn't appologize. The christians have been mocking my god for years. Saying "he doesn't exist" and have sent in much hatemail to our website. If they won't appologize for all of that then why should EA appologize for a joke?

Our heaven has a beer volcano and a stripper factory :)
www.venganza.org

[sutton32]

sorry if i offended anyone here, didnt mean to sound like a prick. Its just religion is so full of contradictions its unreal how many people follow it. I guess some people need to believe there is something greater than us to get them through life. But in my honest opinion, I choose to believe in things that have proof and evidence such as evolution.

[tmt345]

Would you rather live your life without God, then die and go to hell? Or would you rather live your life with God, then die and find out there is no God?

Thats how I look at it and how I will always look at it. The reason I believe in God today is because of the moments in life where you feel something could only be possible because there is a God, and I feel sorry for the people in this world who don't experience those moments. You can't prove or disprove God either. I personally don't believe that the world is only a few thousand years old (like some christians who believe every single word in the bible do), as there's too much proof against it with carbon dating. I believe that God created the world, but how (big bang, himself) to me doesn't really matter. People who are christians generally are happier and do live an average of 10 years more than people who are not christians. I don't see how people on here can generalize christians today by looking at christians from a 1000 years ago...

[mintaro]

Your certainly entitled to your beliefs and I can respect that, however as to the "there is no God argument" remember that the absence of proof is not the proof of absence.

[heroicjanitor]

It was funnier in my head.

For the record I think there is probably a God, but I see religions as a means of control(when they were made anyway) and they are all interchangeable, for example if you were born in the middle east you would be a muslim, and still feel you are the one in the right, by saying christianity is made up.

[sutton32]

@tmt345

good point but if it was the second option i would just be pretending to believe in god so that i dont go to hell, so in the end if there is a god id just go to hell anyways haha

[sutton32]

@ heroicjanitor

the idea of control is exactly how i see it tbh

[Parapraxis]

For the people who gave me disagrees, i'd love to hear why.

@tmt345, and I pose a simple question to you.
What if the god which you believe in is the wrong one?
Wouldn't you thus be going to hell as well?
So just to be safe...maybe you should be practising all religions, you know, so you have all your bases covered.

I don't believe in Zues, Krishna or any form of deity, that includes the judeo-christian version of god.

You can't disprove god, however that is little reason to believe there is something there.

There are far too many flaws in every belief of the supernatural.

As somebody who relies on evidence and reason I am also capable of simply saying "i don't know" and accepting that.

It's more amazing for me, to come to a realization that everything in this universe is non-mysterious than it is to become stagnant in my intellectual endeavours and accept any god of the gaps or supernatural attempts at explanation of what is around me.

@ heroicjanitor , you're probably right. And it is unfortunate.

@ mintaro, I don't think it's a difficulty, it's a simple lack of knowledge.

[heroicjanitor]

Your problem is you say that if the christian god doesn't exist, then no gods exist. Not believing in christianity isn't the same as not believing in god.

Parapraxis they gave you disagrees because you said it is unfortunate we are in the minority.

[mintaro]

Yea for some reason alot of people have difficulty realizing that Muslims, Christians, and Jews share the SAME God.

[Bigbangbing]

IF there is no god, how did the first human come? every thing in this world has a creator, there is no such a thing without a creator behind it, if you think that the first human was a monkey (or whatever creature-from the evolution theory) then how did that creature came too?

I'm muslim BTW

[heroicjanitor]

Then that must mean that god has a god otherwise where did god come from? That would continue forever with god's god having a god etc

That is the flaw with your thinking, but the simple fact is nobody knows where we came from, and just saying god did it won't help us to find those answers.

Edit: Menoyou, if the popes had believed in christianity they wouldn't have started wars/killed people in the first place. And what do you mean look it up?

[menoyou]

Atheists murdered (not war) more people in one century than religion has in it's entire world history, look it up. Hahaha, uneducated atheist teens are just hilarious.

[Parapraxis]

nbnt, go open your fridge and open containers until you find some mold, then tell me who created THAT.

When 99% of the animals that have lived on this planet have gone extinct you still want to attribute that to a creator?
Looks like he has some seriously bad calculations.
We humans evolved, just like every other living organism on this planet.

Creationists arguments are the flimsiest arguments in the world.
http://www.talkorigins.org/...
Your logic is flawed in the first sentence when you think in terms of something popping out of nothing "how did the first human come?"
Have you ever heard of something popping out of nothing?
According to your belief in a creator you are saying it has.

menoyou,
http://homepages.paradise.n...
As for Pol Pot and Stalin, those two were so off their rockers they thought they were divinity themselves, just like Adolf.

[Bigbangbing]

@heroicjanitor

I said "in this world". :)

@Parapraxis

LOL @ the mold, ofcourse it came from Molecules freezing LOL xD

dude "something popping out of nothing" that is your logical, you didn't tell me how the first human come.. is it from Molecule that slept for years and years under a rock under a volcano? how did the Molecule came too? I can go on and on and on, the first human didn't "pop from nothing" but didn't create himself too.

[Syronicus]

Thanks for completely ignoring the last part of the statement I made. People will believe different things and serve different gods but if we can all respect people for who they are and not get on the "hate others for their differing beliefs" kick, the place would be a better place.

On evolution, let's just say this, it takes just as much faith to believe evolution than it does to believe in God. Show me proof that is undisputable and maybe we can talk but until then, evolution is nothing more than indoctrination and takes as much faith to believe. Carbon dating? What a joke. Half of the fossils said to be the missing link wind up being pigs teeth or falsies. The world is billions of years old? Yeah, right. So if we came from a big bang... What was around before that? Primordial goo? Now that took a ton of thought to come up with. Half the evolution theories are laughable and easy to shoot holes through.

As for RELIGION... Religion is bondage. Relationship with your lord is what makes the difference. A true Christian believes that your relationship with Christ comes first and then the laws follow. One will be willing to follow the law more when following Christ. Christ said to follow him and his ways. Love folks and treat them as you wish to be treated. SO what's so bad with that? If everybody treated all others as they wish to be treated, can you imagine what the world would be like? I imagine it would be a nice place to live.

Lastly, here is a good theory to follow. If being a Christian means you treat everybody as you want to be treated, wouldn't it be better to be one and be wrong in the end than to not be one and be wrong in the end? It's kind of the "happy to have it and not need it then to not have it and need it" things... Especially when it is only doing good and not being some freaking radical that thinks killing folks for not believing is the right way to go... Sorry, but you won't catch me "putting the knife to the throats of the infidels" for not believing in what I believe in... Now that is just plain sick.

[tmt345]

Well then I hope that supposed "other" god see's that I was a good person and followed my religion rightfully and doesn't send me to hell. I guess I just have to trust that my God is the only God then.

[heroicjanitor]

Is that evolution is logical. There is loads of evidence you just haven't ever bothered your arse to look for it. Remember 2000 years ago when the kingdom of god is near? Can't be much longer now can it. And it isn't better to take a chance otherwise I'd have to believe every religion so I don't get whatever threat these people have cooked up. Burned in fire for all eternity... Yeah ok.

[JL]

are you really that ignorant that you believe that? atheists have killed more than christians? first off, atheism isn't even a principle or belief, so nobody gets killed in the name of atheism. and religion (christianity the bigger portion) is like one of the leading causes of death in history. The crusades, the witch hunts/trials, not to mention all the wars that have been started in the name of religion (hell we're involved in a religious war right now), etc etc. I'd venture to say atheism has never claimed a life. Though more people have been raped, slaughtered, murdered in the name of religion than are even fathomable

[Syronicus]

Interestingly enough, the Bible warns us against those who would imitate Christ or those who would be so-called, false prophets. Warnings against those that would say they are Christian and talk the talk but not walk the walk. The warnings are there and so those that fall for the "killings in the name of religion" are simply ignorant and susceptible to false teachings.

If you see a man or woman claiming to be a Christian but murdering, raping, stealing and the like, well there is a good chance that they are not actually Christians and just talking the talk and walking the walk. Sure you can do wrong things and still be saved but in the end, the way you live your life tells the whole story.

[Nelson M]

But they owe us PS3 Owners one
For making their Games Multiplatform
Dont Get Me Wrong
EA have made and do make Some Great Games
But every PS3 owner knows
How much better the Games would be if they were Exclusive to the Playstation

[Eiffel]

Sadly if that were true they would not make enough money to continue to publish/make such great titles. Your logic is flawed.

[KingKionic]

lol

[user3915800]

Apologize to christians? Why? Please why does it have to be just christians and makes them more special than any other religion? I tell you, because society as a whole its infected with paying attention to selling an invisible market that has one god. No god its superior to any other and they all deserve to be admire for what they are an illusion for individuals that are looking for a better way of life in their pathetic excuses. People looks into religion just like insurance in case anything happens, I should be cover. Here its my opinion, the only good God its a dead one and it seems that all them are.

[Dead_Cell]

Let's ban Angels and Deamons.
Let's ban Constantine.
Let's ban a hell of alot of other things these people want to whine about.
Go read the short story "The Last Church",it has some good theories on why religious zealots should NEVER be taken seriously.

[menoyou]

I bet you're the first one in line defending feminist and gay rights activists and such though huh? These liberal groups are much more whiney than religious groups are yet when they complain it's "progress" or "open mindedness" hahaha.

[Dead_Cell]

Nice try though.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

<---------YES LOL.

[clinker]

Hey Pope, what is your gamertag, I wanna kick your @ss in COD4

[sorceror171]

"Yes, the long war on Christianity. I pray that one day we may live in an America where Christians can worship freely, in broad daylight, openly wearing symbols of their religion, perhaps around their necks. And maybe - dare I dream it - maybe one day there could even be an openly Christian president. Or, perhaps, 43 of them. Consecutively." - Jon Stewart, back when Bush was President. (It's up to 44 now.)

[dafonz]

classic move on EA's part.

[mrv321]

'Should Christians apologize to Muslims for the Crusades? Yes' -EA
'Should Christians apologize for forcing a religon on third world countries and stopping them from using messures to prevent the spread of disease which has killed millions? Yes.'- EA

On reflection of the bigger picture what EA did is hardly that wrong... Let's check

Christians - Kill thousands if not millions of people
EA- Advertise a game.

[SoapShoes]

Muslims killed just as many people, they took over that land which used to be Christian territory. I guess they get off scott free? What's funny is everyone is singling out Christians like they are the only ones who did bad things. I guess everyone is uneducated about their history? Well I guess it's time to go back to college.

[ElementX]

Christians have enough to apologize for. They don't need an apology from EA.

[Parapraxis]

Christians are a minority group?
Kris Erickson is a fool for even suggesting that.

[edgeofblade]

Devout, hardcore, protesting, offended-easily Christians? I could be sold on that stat. I honestly think there are more closet atheists in this country than people think. The only thing keeping them in the closet is their "programming", not any logical deficiency. Eventually, they will figure things out, even if that ends in not confronting religion at all and maintaining the status quo in their lives.

Of course, there are those who respond to crises of faith by sticking their fingers further in their ears and yelling louder...

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

He says he's not but he acts like he is. Plus, he's too smart not to be.

It bothers me that you can't run for office unless you fit a certain criteria, part of that criteria being religion. It didn't used to be that way, if you look back into american history it was common place to elect athiests(20th century).

Plus, when politicians say they believe in god, you know its not true, because everything they say is a lie /sarcasm

But yeah, I really feel that we are devolving as a society. Its as if we are experiencing religions final death rattle, and as a result all of the crazies are coming out of the woodwork.

[Parapraxis]

Tony Scarboni, I as well have been leaning towards that possibility with Obama.
Oddly enough though, I recall hearing on The Daily Show via another news outlet like MSNBC that Obama has used the word "god" in more speeches in his first 100 days than Bush did.
Sounds weird to me.

I think it's likely Obama will keep his personal beliefs under wraps, unfortunately.
His grandmother was a "humanist" and many of his actions like the unparallelled recognition of "non-believers" in his inaugural speech tend to make me think he is a non-believer as well. However, even if he is not, at least he recognizes that athiests are out there, unlike Bush Jr & his dad Bush Senior who said athiests are un-american.

[DelbertGrady]

Obama is an alien...and a commie. And Satan.

[II Necroplasm II]

I think Tony Scarboni needs some good meatballs in his spaghetti tonight.

[edgeofblade]

Should they apologize?

Aech-ee-double hockey sticks, no.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

It would be a vain one anyway lol. No one's perfect. Yet it seems like everyone in the world wants to point out the imperfections of Christians as if they themselves lead such honest lives ( comments above). Keep your worthless apologies. It wouldnt make or break us in any way. Nor will denying God make him any less real than what he is. I've yet to meet an atheist who can argue their points rationally. But I'm always up for the challenge :).

[edgeofblade]

...or any more real for that matter. God either is or is not. But face it, we don't KNOW beyond a doubt... and we don't know any more than any other religion that thinks their god(s) exists.

So, I'll let you have your faith as long as you don't try to prove it and still call it faith. Proven faith is not faith. Therefore you can't argue anything except the indisputable fact that you have a belief. That I am willing to believe. But faith? No, not if you feel compelled to argue with every atheist you meet...

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

And so it is a fact.

[San Frandisco]

Fvck NO!

[shorttylad]

why should they get away with offending Christians when muslims would go ahead and burn down their head office or something? (or probably kill some people in the embassy buildings) EA are the lowest of the low, why don't those cowards get some balls and make a mohammed game where u go around being a paedophile and teach young children to suicide bomb?

[FragMnTagM]

Roman Catholics priests come to mind when you say that word.

[iWillNotBeIgnored]

the muslim priests(or whatever they call themselves) & the catholic priests is that no muslim little boys have had the guts to publicly accuse their abusers. Why is that? Oh maybe it's because they execute women that have been raped. You can only imagine what the heck they would do to a boy that has been raped by a muslim priest.

[shorttylad]

yea your right there about priests - good job im not catholic or I'd have taken offense.

[Rowsdower]

EA should not have to apologize.

I'm tired of the religious majority claiming they are being persecuted.

Be careful though they may just get some "lone wolf" to shoot someone at EA.

Jesus always lets me down.

[devilhunterx]

is this the part where we blame the joooooos?

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

This is News for gamers not Religion for gamers. The bottom line is that every person has been guilty at some point of injustice or intolerance towards another's belief. Bigotry is a fad that went out of style years ago. It's time to move on.

[FantasyStar]

Bigotry is a fad, but it has not went out of style yet. See "gay rights" for examples. Hell the whole "console war" is based on bigotry.

[FragMnTagM]

I like how Christians are all high and mighty because they "live their life with GOD," and anyone who doesn't is going straight to hell.

That alone right there is one of the many many things about religion that is just wrong.

A GOD that is supposed to be loving, kind, and forgiving, is very cruel indeed. How can he be those things and condemn "his children" to hell for not believing in him. It is not like he has given us a whole lot of proof.

Take this argument into consideration also. If you drop an apple, does it not hit the floor? That is a THEORY OF GRAVITY. Now think about that for a second. Evolution is also a theory. A theory is a VERY educated guess on top of FACTS that has not been disproved.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

"I like how Christians are all high and mighty because they "live their life with GOD," and anyone who doesn't is going straight to hell."

Christians are not high and mighty. In fact we are all sinners just like you. The difference is that we at least try to better ourselves. A person who doesn't want to better themselves is condemned in any society.

"A GOD that is supposed to be loving, kind, and forgiving, is very cruel indeed. How can he be those things and condemn "his children" to hell for not believing in him."

God never once said that he'll condemn anyone to hell. You condemn yourself to hell by choosing to follow sinful nature.

"It is not like he has given us a whole lot of proof."

You're right. The bible doesn't open with the author trying to prove God exists. He assumes you already know he exists because its supposed to be common sense. A painting demands a painter, a building demands a builder. A design demands a designer.... and they're are lots of examples of design both on earth and in the whole universe.

"Take this argument into consideration also. If you drop an apple, does it not hit the floor? That is a THEORY OF GRAVITY. Now think about that for a second. Evolution is also a theory. A theory is a VERY educated guess on top of FACTS that has not been disproved."

I am a very scientifically minded person and i have studied both creation theory and evolution theory. There are less so called "facts" in science than people would have you believe. Most theories in science are based on assumptions. Some assumptions are good some are bad. The thing about this is that both parties look at the same fossil record, the same geographic column, the same sun moon and stars yet we all come to different conclusions about their origins. It's because evidence requires interpretation and everyone's interpretations are based on their own presuppositions. An evolutionist would look at the grand canyon and say "look what the colorado river did over the course of millions of years." a creationists would say "Look what Noah's flood did in 20 minutes flat" Do you understand now?

[SoapShoes]

Wow your double standards are quite lovely. It's fine when you make fun of Christians with your false ideologies of what a Christian is then when someone comes and says Athiests are wrong you get all butt hurt and defensive. Don't deny it, we all know if a Christian came and told you what they believed you'd get in a big argument. Your actions show it to be true. So you really are no better than those who you claim are high and mighty.

[The Judderman]

Should they apologize. Hell no, fu(k em. If christians want to rant fine, it's free country. But i don't see them apologizing for all the killing they have done over the centuries which is a lot worse than EA are doing.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Why should I apologize for something that happened before I was born? Are you gonna apologize to me for christian targeted school shootings? Or the beheading of Christians years ago? I didnt think so. And I wouldnt expect you to. Defending EA by reasoning that Christians have done bad things in the past isnt good reasoning at all. It only inforces ppl to think that its ok to not take responsibility for their actions.

[Soldierone]

Remember when we first heard about it? We ALL thought it was REAL protestors? Thats why EA SHOULD NOT Apologize for it. We all know they WILL do it one day, hell they probably will more than likely be protesting this game when it releases. Do they ever apologize for their ignorance? Nope. I thought religion was about being nice, giving people hope, believing in others etc. So why the hell do they protest games, movies, and try to rid of people at their jobs? Just put it this way, what would happen if a protest group stood outside your office yelling "we want you fired!" all day, would your boss be happy? Its not just christians either, any "Minority" or any "group" of people that whine and complain about their "problems" need to STFU. EA took the first step now keep doing it by not apologizing.

[chidori666]

http://m2.n4g.com/8/News/34...

pathetic fanatics of religions.

[AssassinHD]

Actually those are people who were paid by EA to stage a fake protest.

[Highatus]

No, Since they are playing on the respects of 'The Divine Comedy'. People nowadays are way to quick to get offended, What do you think the wars in the middle east are stemmed from? Can't we all just get along regardless of religious belief or race?

[gokuss122002]

tell me, what did it stem from?

[Highatus]

Religious beliefs, I am not talking about Americas war there... i'm talking about the ever feuding surrounding countries there.

Edit: Over the 'Holy Lands'

[gokuss122002]

Edit:please elaborate.
I'm listening.

[Highatus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Most of them are fueled from religion.

[MetalGearBear]

all religious is fake.
also waste u life.

[tmt345]

On average people with religion live 10 years longer than people without. Its not a waste, and its sad that you feel that way.

[thelastmexican]

Im Christian, and I am more offended at EA's lack of innovation with the Madden series. I was playing yesterday and I cant stand the endzone celebrations! I mean, I throw the football right through the wall! Camman EA!

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

I advise you to read the article before posting comments Highatus. Its not about the game. Its what EA did to get attention for the game.

[Highatus]

I read it let me rephrase my first sentence.

Their ad campaign was based on playing on the respects of 'The Divine Comedy'

[Rifle-Man]

Jesus, I'm just surprised that it was a stunt! Christians protest against everything: Judas Priest, Metallica, Harry Potter, Dungeons and Dragons, etc., etc., etc.

[gokuss122002]

that's because they all (like most things in this world)are related to Satan.

[roadsidepossum]

What do you really know about them besides what you have seen in the movie "Kingdom of Heaven"? Honestly. It is much more complicated than "OMG Christians slaughtered Muslims!!!!" If that was the case than Constantinople would not have been sacked by Western Christian forces during the Fourth Crusade. Did religion factor into the Crusades? Yes it did. But was it the sole driving force and reason for the Crusades? Not by a long shot. Learn something about the social, economic, religious, military relationships between Byzantium, Western Europe Christian nations, and Islamic nations of the time.

On the topic though. I do not care either way. I think EA was rather tasteless in exploiting the possible attitudes of some Christians. I think exploiting any religion for monetary gain is rather bad taste.

[gokuss122002]

... oh wait no I'm not. Just cause someone 'claims' to be something doesn't mean that they are (whatever it is that they claim to be). With that being said, the 'Christians' that you speak of weren't Christians. The Bible tells us to not judge a man by his words, but by his actions.

[Parapraxis]

roadsidepossum, you should watch Constantines Sword.
http://www.imdb.com/title/t...

[Bladestar]

I am christian and I understand the right for people to have their own opinion.

Just like people have the right to believe or not believe in.

Take deafphat comment for example, "all religious is fake. also waste u life.". He has the right to live without religion and even a God.

Well.. as long as his way of live does not affect mine who cares.

Same goes with other religions like Muslims... as long as they do not believe that by killing me they doing good; I can careless.

There was a time "Crusades" where Catholics believe in forcing people to convert and as a result killed lots of people.

During WW2 Nazis were christian and murder lot of people.

So, though I agree that religion is used by lots of bad people to control the masses and have an excuse to murder. I wouldn't go as far as saying that all religions are fake. Maybe 99.99% of them are. May only 1 is NOT fake. But if God is any powerful it wouldn't be that difficult for him to ensure that a group of people or religion is NOT "Fake".

The bible predicts lots of stuff. Like Armageddon and Great tribulation and even the destruction of religion by the governments.

Does it matter if some people or most people don't believe? Let's assume that what the bible says is true and all these things do happen and only those people that believed and followed instructions survive (bible does say some will survive).. it will not make a differences since everyone else will be dead.

Take the great deluge (assuming that it did happen) Noah believed and followed specific instructions that helped him survive. It didn't matter that many didn't believe or thought he was crazy. It didn't matter many did not bother following him. It didn't matter many didn't believe in God. If What the bible says is true; things will happen regardless of what you personally believe or don't as much as the fact that you will die if you jump of a building regardless of your believe in gravity existence.

[Obama]

You are a Christian? Jesus will probably send you to hell for using the word leghumer so much.

[siyrobbo]

thats twice now my eyes have skimmed over this and read it as - Should EA Apologize to christmas?

[skip2mylou]

you Christians argue about everything, im getting sick of this bull$hit. while ill believe about your guys' God and Jesus even though im of the Buddhism religion, Christians have been doing the most random crap over the world. trying to convert people to your religion. crusades on people that you have thought were "Impure" ended up killing tons of innocent people. who gives a dam if its a game u shouldnt buy the game just dont ask for an apology from people that make these type of games u might as well ask for an apology from everyone else then

[Dannehkins]

Why do they feel the need to go out of their way to rebuke this? Is the majority of the gaming community even bothered about this?

They should stop flaunting themselves everywhere and just ignore it instead of kicking up a fuss over nothing practically.

[Silly Mammo]

It was a lame publicity stunt by EA. Other then that, I have a hard time caring about this story. People in the USA need to stop being so offended by everything.

[Chris Turan]

Very few people are reading God's Word in context these days, it is very sad.

[AssassinHD]

Yes they should. I generally disapprove of that kind of viral marketing. I don't think they should apologize for the game mind you, but they definitely should for that fake protest.

[TruthbeTold]

"Are you Christian?"

"Oh you mean that one mainstream cultural religious belief system that if I deny I might go to Hell if such a thing as Hell exists? Yeah."

How do we know this isn't far from the truth? If 76% of the U.S. actually did what Jesus is said to have said, and acted the way Jesus is said to have acted, the country would be a far more wonderful place than it is. The world as well.

[yog-sothot]

They should not apologize, seriously. I hope they won't.

I can't help thinking that if EA had done the same thing with muslim fanatics, there would be some burning flags on TV right now :-P

[LiquifiedArt]

I found it offensive, not because of the subject matter, because as a Christian myself i could understand that.

It was the deceptive nature of their practice. They lied and pretended to be something they are not, so yes that is not acceptable.

Do I want an apology? No. I could care less.
Do I support liars and deceivers? No.

They lied and in their own way mocked christians. So ofcourse I wouldn't support that. I think it was uncalled for.

[Enate]

Why are people actually commenting on this as if its even serious it was fake. Some people are actually commenting no they shouldn't apologize, apologize to who? no one actually asked for an apology this was confirmed a bs PR stunt as bad the body part hunting by Capcom.

[Javier19]

How about christianity apologizes to humanity?

[danielle007]

Maybe they should apologize for making lame jokes, but those types of Christians are in the small minority -- and noone likes them anyways. Sooo.. Screw them.

I'm Christian, but I don't agree with a lot of the church does, and i'm definately not one of those "errbudy is gonna be condemned to hell" crazies. I love the gay community and whatnot, and believe that God probably thinks they're adorable too and would let them get married.. All decent in my book, whatever, moving on. I wasn't offended. The people being made fun of are horribly insane and ... terrible, sooo... I really don't understand why someone would care about them enuff to make this article.

Anyone who preaches hate doesn't deserve an apology for anything, really, so ........ Don't apologize, noone cares about them. It'd be a waste of time, anyways. I don't even think EA got any bad rep for this... apart from this article.

[LiquifiedArt]

"I'm a christian."

"I love the gay community and whatnot, and believe that God probably thinks they're adorable too and would let them get married"

....Not that I want to kill thieves or murderers or people that are led by a spirit of perversion, but did you read what you wrote?

Alot of people may "call themselves" christians. I recommend you read the Word of God and get a handle on the "Open-minded" thing. It'll lead you no where in life. Been there done that, its a no where road. It will end up hindering your own spiritual walk more then anything else, be careful. I Speak from experience.

I have heard from a particular gay doctor,(gay for many years) that has told me of the things Gays don't talk about openly. The things in their heart, the "Justification" they can never attain. Even if all of civilization accepts them, there soul won't and they are tormented by it. They will always feel dirty.

I understand the feeling of Sin and the weight it carries , but there is deliverance in Jesus just the same as many men and woman who were lured into the deciet of perversion have found. Whether by lustful choices or abuse as a child.

Stealing is stealing just as Perversion is Perversion.
These things don't change.

DISCLAIMER: I am not claiming to be righteous or perfect in any way, but am very much a sinner just as anyone else. Be blessed.

[danielle007]

I am a Christian. I believe in God & Jesus, and I believe they love everyone. I definitely don't believe that they hate gay people -- I mean, who could, honestly? Plus, there's been science that proves that higher estrogen levels in the womb can make babies have a higher chance of being homosexual. It's not a choice, who would choose to be discriminated against and shunned by their own families and hated by peeps?

Anyways, I have a bunch of gay friends, and they're okay with their own homosexuality, they know God loves them, and believe they're going to heaven, and I do too, so idk why you think your gay doctor has any weight on this issue.

I believe anyone who preaches hate and blames it on God, has a far worse chance of getting to heaven than someone who is a good person, but happens to be gay.

God loves, he doesn't hate, and definitely doesn't tell other people to hate. So. Quit it.

[danielle007]

I've read the bible, kid. It says God loves errbuddy and that we should love errbuddy and be cool people. And that's all that's important in it, really.

Unless you abide by every outdated rule in the bible, then you better not preach crap verses to me about how being gay is an abomination. MAN wrote the bible, and man was as much of a douchebag back then as we all are now and i'm sure they took the liberty to put some spin on God's words. So who knows. All I know, is that Jesus is the chillest guy ever in the bible, and loves everyone, and didn't stand on corners telling everyone how they're going to hell. Love and forgiveness, my friends. That's it.

Go help someone instead of standing on a corner, imo. :] Cheers.

[TheBand1t]

Fun fact: If this game was about an Islamic character, and you get to see the face of Muhammed, the media coverage would be much more widespread.

[TruthbeTold]

Because under no circumstances would a major Muslim owned company ever do this sort of thing. They may hate Christianity, but they don't tend to mock it for mainstream entertainment purposes because religion is serious business to them. Not to mention entertainment isn't the bottom line for them either.

On the flip side, 76% of Americans, and 1/3 of the world are supposed to be Christians but who is outraged by this besides the nutty extremists who are embarrassed for being called out on their absurdity?

This EA thing wasn't personal against Christianity itself, and most Christians realize that. However, there are no circumstances where such a thing done to Muslims would be tolerated by them. Thus, of course, the media coverage would be more widespread. There would be talk of war and violent extremism so it would be a big deal.

[The_Zeitgeist]

That would be the medias fault for creating all these fake ass controversies. The media tells you what they want you to hear. FEAR THE MUSLIM!!

[Ricdog]

I mean we Catholics are the #1 killing machines in history. Constantine defeated the Roman Empire. We slaughtered all opposition and took over the Holy Land. Cortez annihailated the Aztecs. And Napoleon took over Europe.

Even thou this is screwed up im proud that we Catholics are the best fighters in history. We do bad $h!t but hey, its all in the name of the father. LOL

[NJShadow]

Do Christians deserve an apology for this? I dunno, but I'd lean towards yes, because that's harmless. It still think it sucks that the vocals from that beautiful song in LittleBigPlanet had to be ripped out because of a rather small group of Muslims were offended, while the majority of Muslims had no problem with it. Double standard here?

[The_Zeitgeist]

I see your point dude. But at some point some company has to stand up to religious zealots and give them the finger. It usually is always the Christians that have some problem with gaming. I have news for the people. Not everyone feels the need to be mindlessly controlled and manipulated. THINK FOR YOURSELF PEOPLE!!! WAKE THE %^*& UP!!

[glennc]

all these comments are saying to me are that we are just sick to death of obselete religious beliefs. it is sort of a 'leave your brain at the door' scenario where you ignore what makes sense and believe in something people believed in over 1000 years ago. remember when the earth was apparently flat, well these beliefs were even before that was proven wrong. in fact christianity did everything in it's power to stop or discredit any sort of science.

even know there are plenty of americans that still don't believe in evolution. they think the planet is 6000 years old WTF???

[TruthbeTold]

that not enough people have the guts to call people out on their superstitions. It's like Bill Maher says, They have the right to believe whatever they want, and we have the right to voice why we think they are batshit crazy. Too many are afraid to though, either because they fear the reactions of those they'd challenge, or some small part of them believes what religions believe to an extent that they don't know what part if any they can speak out against. Meanwhile culture and law and government are constantly being shaped by these forces. As we know, there are alot of negatives involved with that.

[SJL480]

A free thinker would accept that the endless debate of two unprovable theories is pointless. One by one so called "facts" are presented and then disproved time and time again. If one was more true than the other then one would be put to bed. The so called deprogrammed are just reprogrammed. People float back and forth between the two preaching one way or the other. The plain and simple truth is that there is possibility of God and a probability of intelligent design including evolution but if not a God then who was the intelligent designer. If we want to move forward as true free thinkers than that is the question.

[TruthbeTold]

I do so because I can't bend my mind around how there couldn't have been. Even so, it's not my place to push that belief off on others, or represent it as anything else but a belief. I believe in a creator. The details surrounding that creator and its creation that people have opined over the years are what i don't believe.

It isn't fair to take all of the bullsh!t baggage that comes along with Christianity and other religions and set it aside to try and make religion and science look equal. The only way that would be the case is if Creation/A Creator was represented as you spoke of it, and as I spoke of it. But that's not what we have. We have specifics and dogma to the point of thousands of years of violence, thievery, oppression, and evil galore being perpetrated in the name of "God".

Science isn't perfect or infallible. But it also doesn't pretend to be, or have a level of authority that makes even the B.S. unquestionable. Science is about questioning, testing, and constantly trying to disprove something in order to find what the truth is. Sometimes something that was thought to be certain is upended, and it should be. Such things keeps us on our toes. Religion however, chalks up the majority of things to "God" in a way that can't ever be tested. Anything that we don't know can just be thrown into that category.

[djroberts]

It's kind of dumb but I guess it's good advertising.

[knucklebusster]

Am not even going to argue with you guys we are all grown men and women able to make our own decisions. I am a Christian I deeply love my lord Jesus Christ the true living (GOD), I believe that he die for my sin to redeem me form the original sin committed by Adam and Eve.. For me it’s a not a religion it’s a relationship, his my personal savor, my best friend, my divine father, my teacher, my counsellor, my protector, my strength, and the one who gives me wisdom.

Life has two constants things life and death. People are born everyday and people die everyday. Maybe I have witnessed death a lot personally in my family it’s easier for me to believe in God. Some people may find it strange to comprehend but GOD only works through faith from Abraham to Jesus.

I love playing games, watching movies etc. But I follow certain rules outlined in the Bible some of you make fun of this divine scripture. God’s words are the very engines of life and only fools mock at its wisdom and fail to understand it. The Ten Commandments and those added in the new testaments are meant to refine the human soul form its degradation. Divine law is not meant to constraint us it meant to free our minds and lead the path to true liberation in heaven. You know one quality I absolutely love about God is he gave us all a free will to choose.

[The_Zeitgeist]

If you are so comfortable with your faith then look into history a little more. Read up on just how it was that your religion came to be.

[kaveti6616]

Everything has its fanboys, my friends. There are Christian fundamentalists and Atheist loudmouths and PS3 fanboys and Xbox 360 fanboys.

I really do hate it when religious people say all of those terrible things about atheists. You would think that they would be more humble, especially since A) the Bible says modesty is good, and B) Christians have throughout history committed many vile acts. On the other hand, I will firstly admit that I am a Christian and what I also hate to see is atheists making generalizations about all Christians.

I believe in the theory of evolution

I am pro-choice

I believe that gay people have the right to marry

I do NOT believe that people of different races and creeds are inferior to me

I do not try to convert other people to my beliefs

I do not listen to Christian rock (oxymoron)

It upsets me the most whenever these stupid, fundamentalists say and do very mean, terrible things because A) It's not right, they're not better than anyone else and B) I feel that some atheists will think that all Christians behave as fundamentalists do.

I would like to apologize for all the terrible things that have been done in the name of my religion, even though it is not exactly my place to apologize.

I wish we could all get along but someone always comes along to fuel a fanboy war, just like with the PS3 versus Xbox 360 crowd. I guess in comparison, I would rather be listening to console fanboys because it's all very silly and ultimately harmless. With religious debates things get a bit serious and people get their feelings hurt and everything escalates very quickly.

I really hope that one day people stop fighting over something even as trivial as religion. I think even God (if there is a God) would be very upset to see the way we treat each other, instead of treating each other like brothers and sisters.

[thedoctor]

The fundamentalist Christians deserve everything that is coming to them. Here's a tiny taste of your own medicine.

Now drink it down and rack off.

[kraze07]

I respect people's right to believe in what they want to believe in, but there's too much religion in the world right now. We don't need more of it in the gaming industry. I think what they did with the protesters was pretty funny but I can understand why some people feel they deserve and apology.