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Latest figures: PSN members vs Xbox Live users

E3 is heralded as the biggest gaming event of the year, attended by journalists from all around the gaming globe, with publishers saving their latest and greatest announcements for the prestigious expo. But the event also carries with it a not so subtle underbelly. No, we're not talking about corporate espionage, suspicious charges to escort services on company credit cards or bare skin fistfights beneath the expo stage. We're referring to the epic cockfight that underlies every new announcement of every game.

Games are branded with a specific camp in mind, be it in Spiderman font, green lettering or recently grey-ified typeface. Hell, even multiplatform titles are showcased on one system or another in an attempt to bolster the poorly veiled grudge match that occurs weekly across the internet channels and more openly at the bigger gaming events. Whenever an opportunity rears its head, someone takes a shot across someone else's bow. And then of course, there's the numbers and figures that get conveniently released around about the time of a major expo.

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Odion5470d ago

Good god, first lets talk about the site, the fact that you have 15 pages with 2 lines on each one is borderline criminal and you have a ad that pops up 5 seconds in, blocking what little text their is.

And PSN includes PsP accounts, and people with forum accounts on Playstation.com

socomnick5470d ago

Not to mention most people have 3 or more accounts for all the content specific downloads. I personally have 4 psn accounts.

360 man5470d ago

i really do believe all of that could have been done on 2 pages

its a cheap way to get more page hits i say

FamilyGuy5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

im somewhat afraid to post in this topic, given the members who've posted so far...

Anyways, Socomnick, yeah right. It's annoying and unneeded to begin with to have more than one account, unless you REALLY want things only offered in other countries. I have only one account and was annoyed by setting up a cousins so why would anyone do that 4 times?

There are DEFINITELY people with more than one account but the same is true for 360 owners. It's ONLY $30-$50 a year and spoiled kids NEVER want to share their accounts. What's $30 if it keeps the kids from arguing about such things like "You deleted some of my friends!" "You deleted my saves!" ALL YEAR.

Mention of the psp is pointless, at least until the Go is released. the only psp users with PSN accounts are the psp owners with PS3s, it's as simple as that. I've had my psp since launch and never signed on to PSN through it. I'd say about %2 of PSP owners, without ps3s, have created accounts and the rest are from dual account PS3 owners.

You guys make me laugh, but in a bad way.

Speaking of which, I know SEVERAL people that don't even have a silver membership and have NEVER signed their 360s online. I recently updated my girls cousins to the NEX so that he could play avi files cuz they required an online update, then i still had to update it for a few different media types.

Anyways, yeah, no wifi outta box makes 360 a hassle to sign online with for semi-casual gamers. That's the bottom line to that.

-MD-5470d ago

I have 4 psn accounts and my younger brother has 3

Microsoft Xbox 3605470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

I have 15 XBL Gold accounts.

thereapersson5470d ago

One of the worst game sites on the internet. How their garbage gets approved around here is beyond me...

SuperM5470d ago

I can guarantee you that most PS3 owners only have 1 PSN accounts. Its only the most hardcore audience that would get several accounts. Id concider myself one of those hardcore and i only got my second account yesterday.

table5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

I have 10 PSN accounts /sarcasm

What are you xbox fanboys so insecure about? It's not like these numbers really matter.

On another note, this site is a disgrace.

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skip2mylou5470d ago

i really do have 3 accounts U.S/Asia/ and EU if u wanna check then here u go FadedDeath216745/Prettykillaz/ fdsqwer EU i didnt really care cause i never play games with it just grab content off of the EU PSN

Megatron085470d ago

While I'd say probaly around 6-8million of those accounts are on the ps3. given the number of people that have like 3-5 accounts I say there is probably only about 2-3 million total playing online on the ps3. While cause the XBL account are only for the 360 there is accually 20 million online. A few are silver accounts but I guess around 15 million are gold. I've personally seen over 4 million people on Halo alone.

stewgart like hell the number doesnt matter having 15 million to play with vs 2-3 million. With 15m people you can find someone to play with online on almost any game even the older ones.

table5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

talking out your ass megatron. Most of the normal people(i.e. not people on here) with a ps3 will have just 1 account(like me). All my friends with an xbox have gone through multiple free trial accounts. Also microsoft are not clear on how they count gold accounts like when you renew it and change your ID. You can twist it and spin it all you like but at the end of the day the numbers of xbox live and psn online accounts will both be proportionate to the units sold.

notpill5470d ago

Totally agreed.
what a horrible site!
with all that 15 pages articles...wtf?? I saw a page with two lines and.. jump..another one with just two lines of text.

DelbertGrady5470d ago

PSN numbers include PSP, PS3 and PC.

yippie1234y5470d ago

i got 1 account on each system (360 and ps3).

i got both systems cause i had nothing to play when i my xbox got the red ring.

then my membership expired during the process. at this point i really gave ps3 a chance and enjoyed the free online. When gears 2 came out i was back on xbl. I guess the point im trying to make is each system has its good and bad this war over which system is better is so dumb.

what is the point do you think one day the other side will say "you were right im gonna go buy that system now" just enjoy what you got and stop acting like 4th graders.

i want to read news not these bs comments

Arkham5470d ago

"PSN numbers include PS3, PSP, and PC..."

And XBL numbers include original Xbox owners...

Thugbot1875470d ago

Not sure how a site like that got approved. Next time DMason save us the trouble don't post the site or post the full story here so we don't have to go there.

IdleLeeSiuLung5470d ago (Edited 5470d ago )

The fact that you have more accounts than PS3s sold is telling. Sony adopted the approach of:

- allowing signup online without a PS3
- merging their website accounts with PSN
- PSP, PS3 and PC are all included in that figure
- early in the PS3's life (before Trophies were released) there where less likely to stick to one username due to no investment
- I believe Sony releases members, not active members (although that is loosely if at all defined)
- allows accounts in different countries

So yeah, the PSN accounts will have many duplicates. Personally, I just witnessed my brothers friends many whom had changed their username even after collecting Trophies.

The Xbox 360 will have duplicates as well due to multiple trial accounts and some on different countries (but I believe this is patched up?), but there is probably also a bunch of people that share one account due to the cost. Furthermore at least 50% of the number they released are Gold customers.

Really a better measure is to look at games that sell about even relative to the competitors user base. Then extrapolate how many online gamers are on each platform to get an idea of relative size.

On another note, I thought there were reports of PSN had 30 million accounts already?

edgeofblade5470d ago

Of all the useless, fanboy-baiting, bad-science numbers that we put up with today, PSN and XBL accounts are the worst. Neither companies' figures are useful for anything.

iamtehpwn5470d ago

I hate you
DO NOT PUT 1 SENTENCE, and then make someone click through 15 pages.

what an ass >_<

maxcer5470d ago

"Good god, first lets talk about the site, the fact that you have 15 pages with 2 lines..."

that's as far as i got and you made me lol, bubbles. i didn't even try to go through the rest of that mess. hell, there is more text on the N4G story than the actual article

EpicGamerSwordsman5470d ago

Its Completely Opposite When it comes to PSN Subscribers,There are over 14 Millions PSN Subsribers. Why would people make 10 Accounts when PSN is free, only ppl on xbox LIVE do that because some users don't have money to buy 1 year subscritions & want to experience online Multiplayer the way it was meant to be, FREE. xbox LIVE has about 17 million people, thats really impressive but how many of those are fake made acc's with the same person using 'em? ?, honestly im no fanboy of any console, i have an xbl account with a yr of gold but you're making psn sound like a joke with only a few ppl playing. & Basically its only necessary to make multiple PSN accounts with the same person using them is for regional purposes, Killzone 2 demo launched in the UK PS Store as a regular demo the same day it was launched for gamestops ripoff voucher for pre-ordering it.

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JohnnyHalo5470d ago

Enough facts to prove the winner.

BYE5470d ago

Netflix is useless outside the US...

skip2mylou5470d ago

you are so dam stupid NetFlex doesnt work outside of the states people use the cheap bootleg where you see them for $5 which i have actually done

MovieScouse0075470d ago

Netflix is useless IN the USA!

Syronicus5470d ago

Use it through the PlayOn app I bought for 40 bucks. You can download PlayOn to your PC and play all of your instant watch Netflix movies right on your PS3 and for those without Xbox Live, you can use it on your 360 as well. No need to pay an extra 50 bucks a year to see your Netflix videos on your 360, just a one time fee of 40 bucks.

http://www.themediamall.com...

This makes the whole, "Xbox 360 has Netflix" argument a moot point.

KingKionic 5470d ago

Netflix is integrated into xbox live. It`s a great addition to the xbox live service.

onanie5470d ago

The fact is, PlayOn actually makes the point moot.

IdleLeeSiuLung5470d ago

PlayON is a good workaround, but requires your PC to be on and might for some have a complicated setup. Furthermore, when Netflix decides to upgrade or change their service, will PlayOn work then?

It is a good alternative, but not a replacement. On the other hand, I didn't see too much good stuff on netflix streaming anyhow. Anyone care to point out anything good?

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xg-ei8ht5470d ago

socomnick

If SONY counts them. Hey it's the numbers game again, ok i'm willing if you are.

M$ states 30million consoles sold.

How many are replacements. How many people have bought a second one because of the first being broken, or sometimes dodgy.

I know many have a backup 360.

Have they really sold 30mil. na, don't be silly.

That 33% was going on for quite some time.

After that it was down to 15%

And even now it borders around 5-10%

Around 3000 xbox360 per store were being sent back to M$. $10million dollars worth from EB aus.

And you think M$ are really at 30million.

If the real numbers came out, you'd know the real sales numbers are about 24million.

jib5470d ago

"How many are replacements. How many people have bought a second one because of the first being broken, or sometimes dodgy."

UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ Xbox 360 ------ 679.6K
UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ PS3 ----------- 334.4K

with multiplatform numbers almost always happening on a monthly basis like that ^^^, i would answer your question with a 'not a lot of people'

-MD-5470d ago

Yes they sold 30 million the warranty just recently ended during the first 3 years people were getting refurbished consoles not brand new ones.

prunchess5470d ago

UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ Xbox 360 ------ 679.6K
UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ PS3 ----------- 334.4K

I think that says more about the 360 owner than the 360 install base. There is a far better range of games available for the PS3 also. Couple that with the PS3 having a more mature user base....

xg-ei8ht is right. jib - How many people do you think had to go out and buy another 360 due to the failure rate it has?

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Omega45470d ago

The fact that there are more PSN memberships then PS3's sold speaks volumes.

Syronicus5470d ago

Considering that the PSP is part of that user base. Granted, not nearly as many as with the PS3 but it's cool that they have their online service available for both the console and PSP.

IMHO these numbers are great for developers since they can see just how big the user base is for a particular online service. At this point in the game, both Xbox live and PSN are attractive services for the developers looking to sell something on.

Immortal Kaim5470d ago

I'm sorry, I have never seen such a blatant grab for website hits in all my life... 15 pages with about 2-3 lines of text on each, this could have been condensed into 1-2 pages easily.

Nice work Gameplayer, you have officially turned me off your website. Anyone from the site care to give an explanation for this practice, cause it is quite frankly disgraceful.

prunchess5470d ago

I give it a miss. It's a garbage site that constantly posts flame-bait articles.

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10 Best Co-Op Games, Ranked

ScreenRant's Ben Brosofsky writes, "There have been a lot of great co-op games over the years, and the best of the best cover a wide variety of genres while maintaining the fun."

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Forget Elder Scrolls 6, Skyrim Can Easily Be Made Into A Next-Gen Game

ScreenRant's Stephen Tang writes, "The Elder Scrolls 6 won't be releasing for a while, and in the meantime, the modding community has been making Skyrim into a next-gen game."

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That’s just laughable to me. I think they’ve squeezed all they can out of an 12 year old game

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The Status of Every PlayStation Franchise

Sony owns a fair few iconic franchises - many dating right back to the original PlayStation. But while we’re pretty familiar with the likes of ongoing series such as God of War, Horizon, and Gran Turismo, there are plenty of PlayStation franchises that haven’t seen the light of day in a long time. So in this video, we’re going to be taking a look at the status of PlayStation’s many IPs, and checking in on when we last heard from them.

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A 20+ minute video? Just include the written list in the article.

DarXyde10h ago

Status in one word:

Underutilized.

The end.

anast9h ago

Which ones should they utilize more?

BehindTheRows8h ago

Indeed. We hear this “underutilized” talk as if every old franchise should have a comeback or reboot.

I_am_Batman7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

When new IPs start looking like Concord, you can't blame people for wanting another Resistance or Killzone instead.

anast7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

J&D and Resistance are good ones. As much as I love these, though, I'm not sure they would payoff without an enormous marketing push. Younger gamers today do not have taste and the older gamers that would appreciate these might not be enough. But yeah, I would day 1 Resistance.

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Hotpot6h ago

Well that’s just the consequence of consistently producing new IPs isn’t it. Not all studios can be or want to be like polyphony digital who made gran turismo all the time.

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Here lies The Infamous Series; once a shining beacon of free flying, lighting bolt sniping, and wire riding amazing gameplay, it has been laid to rest and be forgotten for what seems like forever despite being loved by millions. Plot next to Wipeout across from NBA Jam.

Lightning774h ago

Still baffling they cancelled Twisted Metal, Factions 2 and Spider-Man Multiverse LS game but thought Concord looked good enough.

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Ape Escape, Parappa / Lammy, Gravity Rush, good times. Always hoping for them to make a return, or at least similar type games, such as the newly-announced Astro Bot, but one game isn't enough. Bring back the joyfulness of the 90's era of gaming.

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