Sony: MAG "only possible on PS3," is an "iteration of SOCOM"

VG247: SCEA hardware marketing boss John Koller has claimed that upcoming multiplayer shooter MAG can only be built on PS3.

"MAG is a 256 online-player game which is spectacular," he said, talking to VG247 at GDC last week.

"If you look at that competitively, it's something that's only possible on PS3. The processor speed, the ability of PS3 to showcase 256 players at any given time, and their actions."

[marison]

Their game is only possible on PS3 because in no other platform they have such a creative marketing team!

[NNNW]

that's because the 360 doesn't have any other game lol! Think about it.. if so much time is spent on one game, then a "sacrifice" has to be made for other games right? After all we only have 24hrs in a day and its not like we play 24/7.

[Omega4]

Here we go again marketing a game on its specs rather than its gameplay, thats sure to make it sell since its ALWAYS worked in the past

[labaronx]

This is a game sttill in it's early stage and i seriously doubt it will be out this year but this is how it starts similar to killzone 2:

Sony says it's only possible on ps3.
Competition and media say it cant be done.
Sony delivers on promise and media hype insues fueling the hardcore sony loyal.
Game releases gets great reviews does about 2 million sales. Media labels it a flop.

[SL1M DADDY]

It would have been better had he had something solid to tell us in terms of game play but you have to admit, with the sheer number of players this game boasts about and the fact that it is being put together with the devs responsible for the best of the SOCOM series, this game has potential to be a great addition to the console. Not to mention that if it does in fact work and work well, it will be a first in terms of sheer player populous in a single match.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

You do know that these "specs" are part of the gameplay, right?
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Oh, you don't?

[SL1M DADDY]

If the game is crap and plays poorly then it makes no difference as to how many people you can cram on a single match. I am just saying that I care more for gameplay than the number of players. I do think it will be awesome to see 256 players in a game but if the game sucks... Well...

[Why dis]

Sony says that about any game that is unknown.

Now that there are games coming out that pass KZ2(OFP 2, COD etc) they'll move on to the next game to make these claims.

[Ju]

"Games coming that surpass KZ2". And we have seen them all. <throws a grenade at a pillar with 4 people standing by and starts to smile>...yeah, sure, lets see how CoD:MW2 does it, because until now, no other games does it like KZ2 :)

[iHEARTboobs]

?

[phosphor112]

and it was published by Sony Online Entertainment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

In beta, there would be 3000 people on one server alone. The difference between this and MAG though would be that on Planet side, if you had 100 people on screen your computer can crash..and the graphics are pretty shoddy (especially for being released in 03, it was to make it easier on comps). Also the draw distance on PlanetSide is not far at all. It only goes up to about sniping distance, which is ABOUT 500meters at max. The distance did go up while in a jet or transport vehicle, but less things were shown on screen as well, you wouldnt half the details you would.

But MAG, the claim so far is, 256 people on screen at once will be supported. That would be epic.

[phosphor112]

This is phantom disagreer that has me tracked and disagrees with everything i post. How do you disagree to a post like the one I did above? Its factual, the only thing that wasnt is that I said it would be epic if 256 players were achieved. Some people are just dumb.

[frayer]

No doubt

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Sony: KillZone 2 "only possible on PS3"
Sony: MGS4 "only possible on PS3"
Sony: GT5:Prologue "only possible on PS3"
Sony: LBP "only possible on PS3"
Sony: WipeOut:HD "only possible on PS3"
Sony: Uncharted "only possible on PS3"
Sony: R&C "only possible on PS3"
Sony: Flower "only possible on PS3"
Sony: MotorStorm "only possible on PS3"

Sir Ken Kutaragi: Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5, New Team ICO Game, Heavy Rain etc etc "TOTALLY impossible on the xBox 360!!!" ;-D

M$: Talking CR*P all day on your Console(cross-chat) "only possible on xBox 360"
(That is NOT Gaming???That is MSN???)
M$: A TAX on playing your games online "only possible on xBox 360"
[Must Suck owning a xBox'Lets Chat'360]
;)

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Sure, Sony does have alot of games that boast a lot of players per server, but I have yet to see them pull it off in a meaningful way. They are usually pretty chaotic (KZ2, Resistance).

If they could pull it off though, it would be quite a remarkable feet.

And can people stop talking mess about Zipper already? Does nobody realize that Socom:Confrontation isn't really a true sequel in the series? Socom has such a hardcore following that they wanted to bring a version of it to PS3, but confrontation was never meant to be the definitive sequel.

[Bits-N-Kibbles]

Think Socom with 256 players

I'm thinking no respawn (respawn makes everything hectic IMO because there is no incentive to stay alive when you can just respawn in 2 seconds after you die) or a very long respawn time

[syanara]

for being a PS3 fan i seem to be in the zone filled with mostly them, about 2 years ago i would never have thought there would be more PS3 gamers here. wow. its just kinda intresting how as the PS3 has been doing better so has its fanbase at various websites.

(but there are really embarrising PS3 fanboys here none the less)

[talltony]

But but but thee Bungie dev says killzone 2 could be done on 360 so thats means this could be too. Who would want 256 players online neways?? that just too much. 5 on 5 is much more realistic. stupid sony and their stupid games that could be on 360 but never will, this will sell like 2 copies! sales sales sales ramble ramble ramble.

[karan8624]

@ 1.1

I think LBP and Moterstorm would be possible on 360. I agree with you on all the others though

[Arnon]

Pretty sure I could play every one of those games on my PC with the ATI Radeon 4890. Not to mention they used computers to develop it rofl.

[karan8624]

@ Arnon

Nobody cares about your crappy little PC. And no, you couldnt play ANY of them because NONE of them are out for PC.

[infekt]

Im pretty sure I can play all PC games on my berry....

[Arnon]

"Nobody cares about your crappy little PC"

You realize that a gaming PC would bend a PS3 over and rape it, correct?

1. No limitations (Unlike the PS3/360)
2. Upgradable (Unlike the PS3/360)
3. I guarantee you someone could get a PS3 exclusive game on the PC

Oh, and it cost me half the price to make my computer play the quality a PS3 does.

[PirateThom]

Well, PS3 does seem to have the upper hand when it comes to number of players on one map, but there's no real reasons for it... however, that's a poor marketing effort right there.

Also, expect that by E3, this will be called "SOCOM: [something]".

[xabmol]

If they made this huge game something as tactical as Socom I would sh*t my pants with happiness.

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

dont get me wront but i love socom... i hope this isnt going to be socom because how long could you possibly wait for the round to end after every player gets killed... and repeat this for 8 rounds

[Ghoul]

"If they made this huge game something as tactical as Socom I would sh*t my pants with happiness. "

make sure to wear a diper that day i definatly buy one off of you :D

[PirateThom]

Well, they could make it that if your 8 man squad dies, you respawn back into the battle.

I hope it does play like SOCOM, because although there's 256 people, it's still 8 vs 8 in terms of objectives, it's multiple objectives going on around you from other teams. I believe it will still be a tactical game assuming the noobs actually play it smart.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Exactly!

There is no reason why this couldn't be done on the Wii. Other than the little amount of processing power needed to process the people, there is no real reason why this couldn't be done on any platform.

In fact, too many players might cause significant lag and degrade game performance for everybody depending on implementation.

Selling a game based on the number of players seems like a stupid strategy, since Resistance 2 had 60 and we all know how well that game sold. Not that it didn't sell well, but it surely wasn't exactly Halo or Gears in sales.

If any company is going to give us stupid arguments like "only possible on x console", I would like to know exactly why. Not some bullshit "because"... we are x company.

[Ju]

What has that to do how the game plays and works compared to the numbers sold ?

Actually R2 works flawlessly with the amount of people playing. Its easy to get in the games and since they added the zones mode, I like it even more. Fact is, R2 runs great with 64 players with no lag or anything.

BTW: Don't underestimate what the CELL does for a massive networked game. You can use stream processing at its finest, especially to compress network traffic, add crowd control all by the SPUs. That's where they can really shine and can really saturate the idle spots in the load balancing. I doubt that even a quad can match that, and the latency on PCs is just crap these days (I mean, if the OS decides to swap a page to the HDD, all your four cores get a hick up).

[Ps_alm3k]

Funny how Sony talk to talk and walk to walk...
And the other company just go Psssshhh!!!
" I can do that on my Console"........
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Still waiting....................... .............
............................. .........................LoL!!! !!!

[thereapersson]

Sony delivers on their games, while other developers are left scrambling to see who can be the first to say "Oh, but we can do that on "X" system too, but we don't have the means or resources to prove it."

Case in point: Bungie

With the way Halo 3 looked, I don't think any of their developers should go around claiming that you can pull off Killzone 2 on any system BUT the system it was designed around.

BTW, I did not disagree with you

[iHEARTboobs]

But it does no one any good if it doesn't show it. So until it does show it then some of these guys need to shut up. If my 360 can do it, why hasn't it already? It's "easier" to develop for, MS has money so what gives?

[Hallucinate]

remeber when MS said 'we can do killzone 2 on xbox 360'? yea i still dont see it

[Bumpmapping]

Sony doesn't have to tell us it is....we already know PS3>360

[-x.Red.x-]

3fixme owners just can't accept that yet...

[Chris Hansen]

The visual prowess of Uncharted 2, Ratchet & Clank: ACIT, MAG, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, and ICO 3 will cause Xbox 360s around the world to instantly RROD/E74.

[360 man]

wow wat a fanboyish thing to say

[Bumpmapping]

it allready has haha

[thereapersson]

Your post reeks of irony

[Daz]

Here we go. Hardware marketing SCEA boss says its only possibe on the ps3 ;/ lamo

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

and yet they deliver

now its microsoft's turn

...yup anytime

[Sitdown]

what did they deliver?

[Hallucinate]

uncharted, kill zone 2 so far what did MS deliver , technically nothing cause MS has only like 3-5 first party studios

[Sitdown]

uncharted could have been better.....I hope that it part 2 they add a greater variation in enemies. Killzone 2........didn't really do anything for me.........it was a case of too little too late. Gears 2, Halo 3, and COD 4 beat Killzone 2 to fulfilling my shooter needs for this generation. So I am left with MLB, and I guess Metal Gear Solid...which I still have not completed. For me the 360's year early launch helped at a lot...because I got saturated with a lot of games...and while the ps3 has some decent titles, they are not to far off from what I had already been experiencing on the 360. Right now my hopes and dreams lies with GOW 3.

Side note...I could really care less whether a title is from Microsoft or not...as long as I enjoy the game....with that said, I thoroughly enjoyed Kameo and Viva Pinata.

[Hallucinate]

im talking about technical power not gameplay sony said they would build a beast, and guess what they did MS said we have the most awesomness gfx comming, welll were the hell are they? so MS delivered nothing

[felidae]

yeah, of course it is ;-9

[thereapersson]

I can taste the fear!!!

[cronaldo7]

bullshit

[chidori666]

only possible onlyyyyyy in ps3 the powerfull console in the market.... like kz2 mgs4 uncharthed and others games.....

ps3 for life, 360 GARBAGE.

[Sarcasm]

I cant even imagine what 256 players will translate to or how it will play.

Let's just hope the gameplay is up to snuff rather than just pure numbers of players.

[Alcon]

I think they said the 256 players where to be divided, first and most obviously in 2 sides, and from there you'll be part of an 8 man squad, in this squad the highest ranking is squad leader. Each squads or a couple of squads together, will have certain missions to accomplish, so you won't see 256 players on the same spot in a chaotic battle (I think it'll be a bit like Resistance 2, (objective based, with multiple squads))
That's all I remember of the top of my head.

If anyone knows better, please tell us (or rectify if I made an error)

[xabmol]

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[creeping judas]

Thanks for explaining that. I think too many people mistake what the game hopes to achieve. Not 256 players all at the same time on the same battlefield.

[Ju]

That's not clear to me. In that presentation it still looks like the squads interact with each other. And if its a battle, you'd need all the troops to fulfill the objective. They didn't say, though. But at least in the video you see one squad on recon checking out the area.

But if it has interaction to other teams, then there must be some sort of organization or synchronization between squads, say if they have dynamic objectives. If that's the case, then you'd need to really get 256 players to really want to play that way, or else it won't work.

This is certainly something for a very specific crowd of players, I can't imagine this will go to mainstream. But Socom never did, its a hardcore genre anyway.

[timmyrulz]

Y'all need to hope that enough people buy the game to play a 256 man deathmatch

[dustgavin]

Better than hoping our system doesn't overheat after changing out the 5th disc.

[Chubear]

You are aware that there are such things as BOTS right?

[Argento-Nox]

Resistances 8 player co-op, KZ2 graphics; if Sony pulls this off, it'll just be another feather in the cap for what the competition hasn't been able to do other than simple talk.

[ultimolu]

If Sony pulls that off...wow.

[Panthers]

I dont know about this game. 256 people does not sound fun. I will stick with Confrontation and 8v8 for now. I am interested though.

[xabmol]

It will kind of be like 8vs8 while another 15 8vs8s is going on around you.

[zaz12]

Go sony go...

[Lanontscuz]

i doubt they let people fight a clusterfrakk like that ....most likely keep people on certain side of the map just like R2 and pull off objectives for your squads to get points...but hopefully they pull it off

[Ju]

I would however hope, that you get immersed more in the overall battle, even played in a 8x8 team. In R2, that's nice, but somehow, I fail to see the overall objective and you can't work with other squads.

[Shane Kim]

Like we didn't knew this allready.

[xdye017]

You lying bustard. The upcoming MMO, Huxley supports 300 players and its coming to xbox 360 so it can support 256 players. What a lying asshole.

[PirateThom]

Isn't Huxley is pretty much cancelled for 360?

[bob saget remix]

It was supposed to come out in 06. 3 years ago. There hasn't been one word since 06 about that game. Its canned.

[dustgavin]

Yea but the 360 fans seem to live on broken promises. Look at how long they have been waiting for Alan Wake.

[STONEY4]

Didn't Huxley get reduced to 60 players or something?

[Chubear]

Not only was Huxley supposed to come out in Nov. 2006 but it was also supposed to have 300 players which got reduced to 100 then to 50 and now it's canceled for the 360 completely.

I just have no clue how people keep supporting this system. I keep hearing "oh the 360 can do that, it can do that" but don't just tell me - show me.

The 360 is in it's 4th year now and I still haven't seen the fidelity of games that came out in the first two years on the PS3. They keep saying "we have games we have games" but a majority of them are just run-of-the-mill mediocre stuff. I look at the PS3 and say "Uhm, no RPGs" but I look at the 360 and ask "where are their Motorstorms, their Uncharteds, Resistance, Killzones, MGS4s etc etc where are their LBPs their Warhawks, Siren, fat princesses

All I've seen from MS as a show piece is a game from a 3rd party developer in geow. Hell, even halo was average and if it didn't have the word halo in it wouldn't have sold 1million talkless of 9 cause their was absolutely nothing to write home about it as a current gen game.

You'd have to be a fool not to see MS is rounding up it's 360 business and is about to dump it's fanbase the same way it did it's xbox fanbase. Sure instead of 4 yrs they'll now have 5yrs but damn, are the 360 fanbase just happy with mediocrity?

[Arnon]

Where are you getting that Huxley has been canceled? The website is still up and they're still advertising the Xbox 360 version. Not to mention the forums are still going.

http://www.huxleygame.com/

[crematory]

Sony: MAG "only possible on PS3," is an "iteration of SOCOM"

so its TPS, DAMM!

[killzone2ownsallfps]

yeha like gears vs 5 vs 5...... :(

[Panthers]

TPS>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>FP S

[peeps]

if they pull this off then it will be epic, for now i'm keeping an eye on it. Makes me laugh, all the people who say 'it will instantly fail' how could you say that when no-one really knows anything about it. It's like saying Alan Wake will be wank, how the hell could you say this when we don't know enough about it - because they're a fanboy...

[00000000000000000001]

It looks like John Koller thinks everyone that plays video games is real stupid. Anyone with a little knowledge knows the 360 can do everything the PS3 can do, just look at the specs for each console.

[acdata]

Delta Force on original XBOX has about 128 players online.
so this not something new
and its impassible that 256 player at same time has stable connection with internet.
256 player with smooth gaming experience only possible in LAN party system ...

[PirateThom]

There's a lot of online games with hundreds of players, including Sony Online Entertainment's Planetside.

[krisq]

And something like OnLive supposed to be impossible too...

[ApocalypseShadow]

make as many excuses as you like on why 360 has not produced games near ps3 exclusive games.not just by microsoft themselves.not one third party on 360 has matched sony's in-house games.

again.....360 has been out one year longer and easier to make games on."

i want 360 fans to tell me why not one racing game on 360 matches GT5?don't make excuses on turn-10 concentrating on customizing your car.they have the better tools,they have had more time in making games for next gen.but the result was 720p/60fps/8cars.GT5 was 1080p/60fps/16cars that look real.but every racing game on 360 doesn't match GT5.third parties included.

why is there no game running that has 20vs20 multiplayer on 360?how about 30vs30 multiplayer?got another excuse for that?is there a reason gears1,2 are 4vs4 and 5vs5?how about halo3 and 8vs8?i want to hear the reasons.are you going to say,"1vs1 online is better than 50vs50 for combat games?correct me if i'm wrong.but what happened to huxely and all those players?that game has been downgraded immensely.WHY?becuase the game is on 360.that's why.

why is killzone2's graphics great online and off?why is cod4,halo3,gears,etc,not as detailed?why does the game have less characters and enemies onscreen?

again.....360 has been out one year longer and easier to make games on.

do i need to mention mlb09 the show besting mlb09?do i need to mention uncharted besting gears in graphics?do i need to mention heavy rain?do i need to mention ratchet and LBP besting kameo and banjo.is there a reason why motorstorm 1,2 are still the best offroad racing games and still looks great offline and online?do i need to mention MGS4?are 360 fans going to come up with more excuses?

i'm all ears.most ps3 fans are all ears.we want to hear the reasons of not just one game,but multiple games outdoing 360 on resolution,amount of players online,lighting,detail,animati on,etc.

let's hear it the excuses or at best,a great explanation on why this is?you claim 256 players is impossible.but 360 as of yet has produced a game to match ps3's launch game of 20vs20.

go ahead 360 fans,talk about sales because that's all you got for the moment.you have no game announcements and no excuses on why 360 is getting clearly beat by the black beast in technical feats.we're waiting..................still waiting....................... still waiting.....................at least try...................

apocalypse................... ........

[PureGamer]

seems to me you like graphics more than gameplay. Also how about you go look at frontlines fules of war? im pretty sure that runs 25 v 25.

I just laugh at people like you, do you sleep with your ps3 at night? because you seem so attached to it.

[raztad]

Hey @Pure you didn't answer Apocalypse question. Putting graphics aside, the number of players in a match definitely affects the gameplay, or am I wrong?

Wow, I didnt know the most played online game on the xbox is only 8x8, that is lame, to say the least. How many CoD4 has?

[baodeus]

@Apocalypse Shadow

May be u should start playing more games on other console rather than just PS3...u might see it in different light. God i hate fanboy. U make other gamers look bad. And if u want numbers, how many games that xbox has that use dedicated servers? Not alot i guess. If u want alot of people, u need a dedicated server. I haven't seen PS3 do 60 people on P to P connection. P to P connection vary because some may have fast connection while the other is like the turtle in the comcast commercial. However, there are high demand for faster connection, i have no doubt that P to P will be quite good later on. Just look at Korea, they are trying to implement 1gb/sec connection.

For Mag, I don't know, most people are just run and gun......kinda of player. They don't play in squad and u can't be sure if your squad leader can lead or not. Unless alot of gamers went to boot camp or get proper military training, it is quite hard to control a large group of people. Let wait and see how they force people to work together. Communication is a must for this kind of game, and not alot of people talking....on PSN. People need to get mic. Use those blue tooth headset. Let put that Wifi to good use.

[DigitalEntity]

Why 256??? Do they store player ID in a byte? If that's the case I think its kind of low... not very impressive for marketing!

[PirateThom]

2 sides, 32 squads of 8, 16 squads per side.

[PureGamer]

Ill pass 60 people in resistance is a cluster f@ck. Plus barely anyone speaks on ps3 so 256 people actually doing teamwork? does not look good.

[kewlkat007]

hey that's that nature of 1st-/2nd party nothing new here. The hype train is just starting. happens on both sides.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Every time Sony makes a statment like this it ends up biting them in the ass. Maybe the people over at Sony are just slow.

[Firstkn1ghT]

And this is why Sony always looks like a fool in the end because they hype up their games to the max and the final product is always not what they promised. Fortunately for them the sony fans are the most gullible gamers in the world so they eat this kind of stuff up.

[PirateThom]

Look, at the end of the day, Sony are delivering on promises they make.

It's no longer up to Sony to prove anything, it's up to Microsoft to either put up or shut up.

[Firstkn1ghT]

????

[PirateThom]

????? :-/

[Sitdown]

what you are saying is that the original ps3 specs will show up soon? Seriously, unless you are on Sony's payroll.......there really is no need to defend them to the death....and this goes for any fan with any company.

[gnothe1]

its always Sony an Sony's camp that's always trying to justify the price of the PS3 by saying you cant do this on the 360, why is that, you never hear anyone on the 360 side make those claims. oh you cant do resistance on the 360m you cant do heavenly sword on 360, you can do killzone on the 360 an my favorites you cant do FINAL FANTASY or DMC on the 360. why dont they just shut up an quit with all the spec talk, before this gen you never heard a company talk about how many gigs it takes to make a level or our game can run in 1080p,or we got 60 fps, they just made games good or bad. but Sony ALWAYS has to tout specs an you guys always eat it up. I know both companies need to shut up but Sony is always TRYING to boast superiority.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

lol are you kidding me, yea sony should be able to justify the price, they sure put a hell of alot of money into it, and games have always been about specs what are you talking about, have you ever played on a PC. And i do believe the Xbox fans are the ones always talking about Crysis this and that, and also i do believe the Xbox fans that always everyday never fails bringing up sales chartes, so were not allowed to get excited for a games that has never been done on a console but you get to praise sales on day one because theres no other games to buy, why cant sony show off, M$ does what do you think advertising is idiot, and i also beleive sony isnt doing a great job with there marketing campaign, you know what its just easier to call you an IDIOT

[Mr_Luke]

1) This "our games can be only done on ps3/360" is getting very annoying
2) Hope this game WON'T be like SOCOM
3) For xbox lovers, Halo 3 is climbing the most played online list cause maybe.. there's nothing better than it? It's very sad, if you want my opinion ;)

[QuackPot]

Yes, Halo has the huge numbers playing it, pretty settings, vehicles and assortment of weapons but if you want simple addictive fun, Warhawk is the game.

Again 360 diehards, it's not the sales numbers or how many are playing, it's how good it REALLY is.

There have been numerous fantastic games that just haven't sold well. But still doesn't make them any less fantastic - except to a fanboy.

[divideby0]

I await to hear a 256 player online game with the 360.....
never will happen

[cyrus228]

if 360 cud do it why is the horrible front lines the only game to break the 16 player cap??? and that game is a lagfest and bad in general?

ps3's shooters the average has always been 32+ resistance 2 is highest at 60 players with NO lag, even while im on wifi, yet halo 8 players lags for me.

so no excuses, u pay for an online service that has children cursing at you, that doesnt support free content, nothing user created allow (editing doesnt count, halo 3 forge) and live lags more.

xbox live "it's good to pay together"

i hate when people just talk and they only own one console. its stupid, those of us who own all 3 consoles are the only one who can talk about the other consoles because we experienced them completley, not a 2 hours test.

mag will be awesome :D

[Sitdown]

you were trying to convey a point........but it did not come across. Seriously, just because you own all three consoles...that does not mean you are not going to be overly biased for a particular system. So you diss paying for live because you have cursing children on it? Okay then. Live doesn't support free content? Hmmm, and when is the last time you logged on to live?

I hate when people who own all three consoles are just as crooked as those who only own one console and are trying to justify their purchase.

[thereapersson]

wrong post

[ZILLA]

its funny,but the PS3 still has more in it!!!PLAY B3YOND..........waaaaaaaaaay B3YOND!!

[Why o why]

They keep trying to push boundaries. They may not achieve every challenge they set themselves BUT im sure happy they're trying. Innovation, Technical achievements....whats to hate honestly??

[Lawliet]

Xbox360 definitely can't do the 256multiplayers, this is a fact! Just go interview any PR that is currently working on the Xbox360, and they will tell you the same thing. It would be a miracle to see them doing a working 60multiplayers. When they did then we'll talk.

[prejur]

Those that think the 360 is as powerful as PS3...please show me a 360 game that looks as good as Killzone 2 or MGS4. Thanks.

MAG looks mindblowing...I just hope it plays as good as it looks.

[Slinkey]

We have seen no gameplay footage for this yet how do you know what it looks like lol.

[timmyrulz]

"Sony: MAG "only possible on PS3"
Sony: KillZone 2 "only possible on PS3"
Sony: MGS4 "only possible on PS3"
Sony: GT5:Prologue "only possible on PS3"
Sony: LBP "only possible on PS3"
Sony: WipeOut:HD "only possible on PS3"
Sony: Uncharted "only possible on PS3"
Sony: R&C "only possible on PS3"
Sony: Flower "only possible on PS3"
Sony: MotorStorm "only possible on PS3"

Sir Ken Kutaragi: Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5, New Team ICO Game, Heavy Rain etc etc "TOTALLY impossible on the xBox 360!!!" ;-D

M$: Talking CR*P all day on your Console(cross-chat) "only possible on xBox 360"
(That is NOT Gaming???That is MSN???)
M$: A TAX on playing your games online "only possible on xBox 360"
[Must Suck owning a xBox'Lets Chat'360]"
;)

Been a complete d1ck, only on N4G

[Bumpmapping]

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[Etseix]

can u explain that comment?
......please? :P

[nambo]

Why do Sony fanboys have such an inferiority complex? You guys get all giddy when moronic Sony execs and developers play to insecurities and claim the PS3 is the most powerful 4D gaming machine ever, and that their games wouldn’t be possible on any other machine. How many times have we heard this before? And why is it that you guys need to feel the PS3 is so superior? I can understand Xbox fanboys a bit better because you Sony fans have been dumping on the 360 and predicating PS3 dominance since before the PS3 came out, but it hasn’t happened yet, and alls we continue to hear is “wait till next year”. It’s getting old, so grow up. Here’s a bit of reality: both systems have their strengths and weaknesses, and are about equal in power, as many non partisan developers have claimed. Get over it, and get help.

[Anon1974]

PS3 fans have an inferiority complex? How do you figure?
As a gamer I can look at this statement and see a certain amount of logic there. 360 games haven't really advanced much since Gears was released in 2006, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's been some great games released on the 360 since then but things have certainly plateaued to an extent. If the 360 was capable of 256 players online at once or visuals like KZ2, surely we would have seen something by now but we haven't and there isn't anything on the horizon. That just seems like common sense to me.

Now PS3 fans like to get excited about upcoming games because...well, they're gamers. New exciting games are exciting and as gamers, we like to talk about them. I'm not sure how you read "insecure" out of that. "OMG! Did you see those Spiderman fans talking about how excited they are about the new Spiderman movie? They must be insecure."
Yeah, or they could just be fans excited about something they like and they're talking about it.

Now as for PS3 fans needing to feel their console is superior I don't think there's any mystery or debate here either. The PS3 IS the superior console. I didn't think there was any confusion over that. I drive a Neon, and I like my Neon, it suits my needs, but I'm not fooling myself into thinking it's better than a Porsche, nor would I argue about that point. The PS3 is better in almost every way. Does that mean the 360 isn't a great console, or the Wii, or that gamers wouldn't be happy with either of those? Of course not. Or does it mean that the PS3 is going to be the best choice for everyone? Again, of course not.

Your whole post seems ridiculous to me. Say a news article comes out about the performance of the new Porshe. In the forums after the article, someone stumbles in saying all Porshe owners need thearpy and are insecure because the Civic sells more and drivers have shown you can get from point a to point b just as well in a Civic as a Porsche and every Porshe owner was claiming the new Porsche would bring about a new age of a market dominanted by the Porshe. You'd rightly be viewed as a nutter and a few posters would probably try to explain to you that no, there's nothing wrong with a Civic but your mistaken. They aren't an equal product.

PS3 fans are just talking about games their excited about. They're not saying "Wait till next year." They aren't claiming they're suddenly going to be the dominant console. They know it's a great product already and they're just excited about future games. When 360 owners come on and argue "My 360 can do that," well no. No it can't, or it would, wouldn't you think? A fan pointing that out isn't insecure, he's just puzzled.

Edit: Sorry for the length of this post. I've become a bit fed up recently by the "Oh, Sony fans do this," and "all Sony fans say this," we've been hearing as of late.

[Karum]

BUT....to comment on what some people have been saying about Sony touting what their hardware and only their hardware can do I would say this.

Everyone ridiculed Sony when they said they would make a game on PS3 that looked as good as that infamous E3 target render for KZ2. Sony pulled it off and are going to be expanding on that feat starting with Uncharted 2 and God of War 3.

Their network and console runs a pretty good looking 60 player online game that runs flawlessly which nobody else has done. If they do the same with MAG what is left for people to ridicule them about?

People continually say that KZ2 could be done on the 360 and to them I would say this. MS are capable of funding any development budget. MS tout the power of their machine and say the 360 could run a game like KZ2. Now with MS so hell bent on trumping Sony at everything why haven't they attempted to pull off something like KZ2 and do what they would love to do and shut Sony up for good?

My guess is because the 360 isn't as tecnically capable as MS and some of those devs would have people believe. If the 360 were ever to pull off something s awesoem looking as KZ2 or Uncharted 2 I will be the first one to applaud the dev behind it and give kudos to MS because despite my seemingly MS bashing post I do in fact own a 360 and have no reason to NOT want them to produce something like KZ2 or UC2, truth is I'd love them to make that kind of amazing game.

However until they prove they can do what they say their machine can do, Sony are 100% correct when they say "this can only be done on PS3" and remember we're talking about consoles here - not a space age PC.

[Kratos19]

MAG- 256 players

Gears of War 2- 10 players.....

[Chubear]

Well to be fair fuel of war has 25v25 ... but it's an utter mess at times with anything above 10v10 and often even with less.

However, I've not seen any other 360 game do more than 9v9. Think about that. The 360 is in it's 4th year and their tipping point has been 9v9 with most of their games having only 8v8s.

However on the PS3 side they had a game do 20v20 butter smooth on day one launch. If you dont' see how the PS3 is totally beyond the 360's capabilities then you're lost. People are paying $250 every gen to play 8v8 matches and they laugh at others that are playing 30v30 smooth for FREE.

The 360 fanbase have got to be the dumbest gamers and that's why MS loves them. Just like other companies like 3DO, Jaguar etc loved these types of gamers. With all the PS3 has, that's surpassed the 360 in so many ways for online experiences, the ONE thing the 360 fanbase will always try and make people believe Live is better is "we have X-game chat"

That ONE thing is what they'll cling to for life no matter what even when the PS3 fanbase get their Video & audio X-game chat they'll still say it's not like their X-game chat.

*Can you take your 360 avatar into an virtual world and meet other avatars not on your friend's list as you walk around, explore, play games, watch trailers and dance to music?

*Can you browse the internet with your 360?

*Do you have games that are 30v30 with smooth online and 18v18 as standard, all for FREE?

*Do you have motion sensing capabilities to your gameplay in certain games?

and so many more stuff but no-ooooo, X-game chat is supposed to trump everything else cause you pay for it - DUMMIES!

[TwistedMetal]

everything on the x360 has been done before and can be done on pc easily its no different experience then old pc games. Look at sony games and hardware its so different and unique from pc and have things that pcs dont have in it. ps3 is a true console while x360 is a really downgraded pc. if pcs were so awesome then they would be able to own at folding at home like ps3 and they would be able to make a supercomputer with less then 10 pcs but they cant. ps3 can become a supercomputer but It takes a heck of a lot more pcs and money to make pc a supercomputer. once again sony games add innovation and uniqness to there games makeing it the only true next gen console while everything else is last gen or downgraded old pc game quality.

[QuackPot]

256 players is great but how often will be have full maps?

Warhawk's simple online gameplay is better than Halo/CoD4 but only a handful of the 32 player maps are ever full.

What the frack is going to happen with a 256 player game?

MAG needs to give the full experience as in Battlefield 2 on PC or OF/Arma....and hopefully will change to First Person not 3rd Person. Then it will be 24/7 for sure.

[rezzah]

Warhawk was supposed to have a single player mode, but was eventually turned into an only online game. Want to know what it looked like? Go look for the original PS3 commercial where game related things such as guns, dragon, cars are sticking out of the PS3. There is a part where the Warhawk single player mode is shown, and what it shows is you flying and fighting hundreds of other enemy planes. I believe there are 2 of these commercials and I'm not sure if it is only in one of them. Look for it on youtube.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I was freakin' excited for the SP campaign too.

Oh well.

I did download the soundtrack for iTunes that was SUPPOSED to be in the final game...haha.

It's really good!

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

your probably talking about the warkawk in this youtube vid right! it has a comparison between the ONLY single-player version vs the ONLY online version check it out, link below

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[divideby0]

when the 360 shows this many on line even in a proposed game...than I would like to hear from the single consoles owners....until than....lol.....keep wishing and hoping or just buy a PS3
you all sound so jealous
dont matter to me since we buy all consoles going back to snes on launch day

[Ashriel]

I hope Playstation owners actually buy this game.

[Anon1974]

Probably Warhawk or Socom type numbers. This isn't the type of game that really takes off. I've got enough shooters with Resistance 2, Killzone 2, COD4 and WAW and I still like to play Warhawk from time to time. I'll probably pass on this one and wait till Modern Warfare 2 comes out before I buy another shooter.
Most of my shooter buddies are still content with COD4 and WAW and haven't even bothered with Killzone 2, which is a shame, but really..how many shooters do you need to get your online shooter fix?

[mrdxpr2]

well i beleive that MAG is only possible on ps3 .... the game seems fun what im scared of is buying it adn trying to fined a game with atleaset 200+ people and that it doesnt lag cause out of those 200+ people atleast 20 of them have bad internet they will be all over MAG... im buying MAG i just hope is MAG and not LAG

[chasegarcia]

the only reason I can think of that it cant be done on another console is because of blueray.

[Solotov]

More silly Sony hype.
The large player count gimmick ...

[TwistedMetal]

xbox live we pay together so it has to be the best epic failness lol
space and zombie games gimick. any game thats on the x360 thats halfway decent fits into one of those categlorys lol not much variation and the gameplay of those games are identicle

xboxlive 1vs1 games is the best, not lol. you got no options to play whatever size game online that you want. while I go on ps3 and can play 1 vs 1 or 32 player DEDICATED serves. big equals awesome when I feel like challenging myself trying to survive like in real life war. seems like ps3 is the only system that simulates the scope of war and twitch reflexes in an epic battle with you actually feeling like rambo becuase you owning 5 guys who are comeing at you from all sides. while your 8 othere teamates are comeing to back you up in a flying gigantic drop ship with 6 missle turrets, 10 high powerd jet plane machine guns, 5 on each side and 7 passangers with jet packs. and the othere guys are flying in warhawks protecting the drop ship or calling in air strikes /driving jeeps and tanks.

ps3 online is epic and the x360 is not. have fun in your 2 vs 2 matches like last, last gen gameing on N64 007 goldeney. you aint a next gen online game if you cant do 32 and still have the best fun and addicting gameplay. You can mix up everything so much more on ps3 online games.

[Anon1974]

dreamhunk said "a $300 pc is more powerful than any console."

Where the hell do you shop? I'd like a flyer, if you don't mind. That's fantastic!

Edit: Sorry - response to posts just below this.

[jBat17]

nope, 'cause all the crapbox exclusives are going to the ps3 and these ps3 versions are much improved and only possible on the ps3.. the only thing possible on the crapbox is RRoD.

[Boty]

I clearly see that you like to bring the PC into a CONSOLE conversation. The PC is a Personal Computer, Meant to Compute things and is not soley made to play games. If you were to buy a New HP or Dell I can guarantee it can't play a game like Crisis or Killzone 2. So you can leave that desperate argument at the door.

Second thing is Any console, Or computer of some type (Even a MS-DOS Game) can run any online game. It depends on the host Server. So As long as you have the basics, such as GPU, CPU, Broadband connection, And RAM, then you can play online.

However, Sony is clearly talking about consoles sooo... STFU.

[StephanieBBB]

Good luck running killzone 2 on a 300$ PC xD

You won't even be able to pull off Crysis. And thats most equal to KZ2 right now.

[Boty]

Please go and buy a $300.00 PC right now, then tell me the specs and compare it to the ps3 and its games.

1.) You can't, as most PC's are $500.00 and up, buy a PC for $300.00.
2.) A $300.00 PC would consist of a AMD athlon 64, Nvidia 6800, and 2 gigs of DDR2 RAM.

Please tell me how that can play Crysis.

Sony [ONCE - AGAIN] is talking about CONSOLES! NOT A STUPID PC.

[Crissy]

Ah sony, you need not remind us of that fact. You already made it quite clear 4 years ago during a show called E3 that games like F*G, FFXIII, DMC, GTA, gundam, genji................are only possible with da POWWAH OF TEH CELLLLZ!!!!

I like the fact that how after the last NPD, Sfags have finally came to an realization that ps3 and its exclusive games will always be irrelevant and an unwanted afterthought among sane gamers and that they have no choice but to hype the only positive ps3 feature remaining and thats its graphics. Now they forced themselves to believe that graphics are the only thing that matter and quickly declared victory yet completely forgetting that their previous console of choice (ps2) was technically inferior to xbox in every single way. Desperate times make people do desperate things I guess hur hur

Anyways if there's anything that we learned from KZ2 is that a mediocre game is mediocre no matter how good it looks.

[dustgavin]

Mediocre game? I hope you have been paying attention to the recent reviews of 360 games. The 360 is the biggest joke this generation. Just because idiots like you choose to support it, doesn't make it a great system.

[brycespitler]

have 1 bubble a few days ago

either u have multiple accounts to bubble yourself

or

you made an alternate account so u can spew retarded fanboy stuff again

either way...its against the rules of n4g

u must b as be as bad as nasim n PP

[Etseix]

crissy..
im forcing myself to think that u didnt call K2 "mediocre".
damm i hate fanboys, well, not fanboys just the the stupid ones -_-'

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

your comments mean nothing anymore ever since you said you hate and want MGS4 in the same comment a few days ago, just shows how retarded you are. YOU made the wrong decision 4yrs ago and now your attacking those who made the right decision, the ones that waited for the TRUE NEXT-GEN CONSOLE...THE PS3...*Crowds cheering and Chrisy Crying*

[Godmars290]

Shouldn't we wait until MAG is out, has delivered on this 256 online-player number, before crediting the game?

Huxley promised 100 vs 100, still isn't out, and is now 32 vs 32.

[shaz73]

Sony: Microsoft Are Great.

[Highatus]

It's funny to see people get mad when Sony claims what can be done on the PS3.

Here's a realization. When Sony makes these claims has the competition proved them wrong? Short answer... No.

Will the competition deliver? It's hard to say at this point because no one knows what they have in store at the moment. But, fact of the matter is, is that they haven't yet and the only thing one can do is speculate on their behalf.

I'm not being bias here because i love both my systems, just merely pointing out a fact in which both companies have shown to us thus far.

[bob saget remix]

People sure like to poop themselves over this. The 360 fans say the 360 could produce uncharted type graphics and a bunch of other things. But it never happens.

[4Sh0w]

Remember when microsoft launched with games at 720p and sony PR released statements hyping their games would be 60fps, 1080p, 4D blah, blah...yet KZ2 their flagship title released late Feb 2009 still didn't accomplish that, quite honestly they have delivered alot of things but they never live up to many bold claims they stated pre-launch. I was really excited about Home but once again so far it hasn't met the hype.

@divideby0, I don't get your point about sony not being an American company, at any rate your comment is baseless since my response was just saying it depends on who you ask whether or not sony delivers on their promises because they did in fact downplay microsofts launch games with 60fps 1080p talk and plenty of other bold claims which led to alot of high expectations that many to this day aren't realized, its the nature of the beast with PR but when you say stuff like: "We will see 60fps games @ 1080p in a future generation of PS3 games" Well its 2+ yrs later and you're telling me what will happen in the future, only proves my point that they haven't delivered yet.

oh and yes RROD is a terrible nightmare for microsoft but why would I believe either company is being honest when it comes to PR? The fact that you are willing to believe sony is honest and microsoft is not say alot about you.

[divideby0]

Sony is not an american company. We will see 60fps games @ 1080p in a future generation of PS3 games. Just like PSN it continues to evolve on the same platform, btw at NO COST.
The 4D comment was one of those wierd statements, not a firm idea or committment. But than again look at MS "failure rates are within industry standards"....Which company do you believe is being honest..lmao

[Anon1974]

I remember how excited I was when Gears released. It was the first "next-gen" title in my eyes and I thought "Great! It'll only get better from here!"
Then I waited. And waited. Still waiting....
That was back in 2006 and so far only Gears 2 slightly surpassed the original. Everything else has been more of the same. Which is OK, but saddens me as a 360 owner.
Now PS3 games have been improving by leaps and bounds. Resistance to Uncharted, GT5 Prologue to MGS4 to LBP to Killzone 2. And looking ahead games like Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2, the new Ratchet and Clank, GOD3 - it's seems like the bar keeps getting raised up and up. That's exciting, as a gamer. That's what I want to see.

Articles can come out like "Killzone 2 doable on the 360" but until they actually do it, it really doesn't matter. The PS3 has been walking the walk for awhile now.

[creatchee]

Honestly, I could care less how many people can play a game at the same time as long as it is a GOOD game. Zipper already screwed up SOCOM 3 and Combined Assault, and Slant 6 screwed up Confrontation. I mean, SOCOM 2 was one of my favorite games EVER, and they followed it up with those pieces of trash.

If I were Sony or Zipper, I would be distancing myself from the SOCOM name at this point. SOCOM = fail to a lot of people these days.

[QuackPot]

I hope they are looking at the successful games out there already & make MAG just as good if not better.

I mean, that's a given.

[DirtyLary]

This game is going to run like any WOW server.

256 players per server, just like confrontation has right now.

Tons of small game that effect the outcome of the whole server.

Simple to see.

[Man_of_the_year]

Like we have never heard this before. The only thing that is true is that MS don't allow games that are generally that high in player count. However FF XI is a MMO and PSU is an MMO and there is a game called Frontlines that has 50 vs 50. So being able to do 256 players in 1 game can and has been achieved before.

This is just Sony's Marketing doing what they are suppose to do. Create HYPE behind another Sony exclusive.

I see nothing wrong with this article.

[dustgavin]

You just keep on believing. Here is a cloth to wipe your fanboy glasses off.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You've been reported for Spam.

The PS2 can do Final Fantasy XI also...and it does. Are you saying it's just as capable as the 360?

Many things play into a game.

I'm sure the physics, draw-distance, frame-rate, texture rendering, and lighting all play a pretty big role in this game. It's all part of the experience.

You should play Killzone 2 online.

[Man_of_the_year]

I didn't say anything that was wrong. And reported as Spam...hahaha. You're such a loser.

Everyone once thought that FF XIII couldn't be done on the 360 and yet its on it. Everyone thought KZ2 can't be done on the 360 yet bungie devs say it can...

You fanboys are so pathetic. Look at the library of games that are on the 360. there are plenty of games that have some aspect that will counter any of your arguments...oblivion/Fallout have amazing draw distances.

Use your heads. And frontlines has 50 vs 50. And MMO's do count as players so if PSU and FF XI can handle that many players at once on live then why can't games like MAG?

P.S. If you guys weren't so ignorant you would click my Bio and see i have a PS3 and LOVE IT and will buy MAG when it comes out and i play KZ2 online since i was disappointed with the single player campaign...difference is i am not an ignorant sony droid like you guys.

[STONEY4]

"Everyone once thought that FF XIII couldn't be done on the 360 and yet its on it."

Because they probably downgraded it. And they're not even gonna start on the 360 version until the PS3 version is done, so we have know idea how it would look.

"Everyone thought KZ2 can't be done on the 360 yet bungie devs say it can..."

What does Bungie know about putting Killzone 2 on 360? That's like Nintendo saying Crysis can be done on the Wii. Of course they're gonna say whatever good things they can about the console they make games for.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

SHUT YOUR FAT OBESE MOUTH!!! YOUR the Queer_of_the Year congratulations

[Man_of_the_year]

LOL look at the whiney little fackers. I will trust the words of a great developer who has made games for years and has created arguable the most historic game ever oppose to your pathetic opinion that it can't be done....again the SDF crying and throwing a tantrum in the forums.

Pathetic babies. SONY FANBOYS are the worst type of "gamers" and i use the term "gamers" very loosely; in the gaming industry. Thats the way, endorse the power of your ignorance by spreading more ignorance.

[farhsa2008]

when he says its only possible on the ps3, he means as opposed to being on the wii, or even the ps2 lol.

[MetalProxy]

Iam sure if M$ had a game that could handle 260 players at once they would be running around screaming it from the tree tops. Guaranteed! But anyhow lets not talk about new up and coming games lets just talk about DLC.

[gdguide]

We don't even know what this game will look like yet. And remember when the DMC4 dev said what they were doing could only be done on the PS3? I can agree however that I think Sony and not MS are the only ones that will probably put in place the proper servers to prevent this game from becoming Gears of Lag. That's one thing where I think Sony really clearly has an edge for this game. Beyond that, I 100% agree that the 360 hasn't shown something as good looking as Uncharted 2 and KZ2, but we haven't seen this game yet. And I'm not expecting a game with so many enemies on screen to look as good as a KZ2. It just really can't. Or I hope I'm wrong on that front. :)

[TwistedMetal]

it has made folding at home a huge success becuase of the cell. it only takes a few ps3 to make a supercomputer. people are useing ps3 to make supercomputers becuase its so cheap and easy. i have no doubt in my mind the ps3 ability shines in online games with tons of players becuase of its hardware and becuase sony will give games dedicated servers if they need them.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I have heard that phrase so many times... but the real question is do I really care about this game? Fine, it can only be done on the PS3...but I have ZERO interest (atleast so far) in this game. Nothing about what they have described so far has me excited.

[Pootie Tang]

I just wanna see some more vids and gameplay of it lol.
It's Sony's game and coming out on PS3, so no point in arguing, I really hope this gets tons of support online, been really wanting to get into a 60v60 R2 match and not happening.
A game like MAG will need alot of gamers to keep the rooms full

[Shortstop]

I'd hate myself if I were a 360 owner

[Grown Folks Talk]

Choosing to make a game 5v5 & not being able to make it more than 5v5 are 2 diffent things. Does anyone think Graw multiplayer or R6:V would be fun with 100v100 matches? It defeats the purpose of the style of gameplay. Once again, I guess I imagined a game on the original Xbox with 50+ players online. So I can see how the 360 can only handle 6. If the game ends up sucking, it won't matter anyways.

[ironmonkey]

all these good news about sony :) ms still scratching heads?

[Strikepackage Bravo]

not this again. These guys should really STFU, everytime they say this, a while later we see something on 360 that they said couldn't be done.

If you buy this stuff Im sorry to put it this way but you're an idiot, seriously, if it is not obvious that this is just marketing BS by now then yeah, you're an idiot.

[Rip-Ridah]

Please go to the "Tips" section and approve my story regarding MAG. There is some good info in there. Just check it out please. Thanks ladies and gents.

-Rip-Ridah

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

LOL. PC fanboys are threatened by this. I don't know why.

[StephanieBBB]

Might be because they haven't seen a AAA shooter since? Counter strike?

[Phantom_T]

But no way am I passing a judgement until I've seen more of it or at least shown how its going to work.
Sony's delivered on the promises they made with there games so far...so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now and keep my hopes up.

[ironmonkey]

to many good news for ps3 and 360 is pretty much done. there is nothing left to offer and stuck paying to play your old games:( still that dum to pay to play? are you seriously that dum? lol face it you haters love coming in here cause you love the ps3 news and you hate the ps3 but you prob own one lol i can understand there is nothing new for the obselete xbox360 and ms is sitting in thier classrooms trying to come up with the new console which will be shaped like a smoke detector and it beeps when it overheats:).. expect ms at e3 to announce smoke detectors for all 360 owners lol

[baodeus]

@FPshooter,

I'm not sure what u mean by quality? how do u defined it?

This is my take on quality:

1. It is based on graphic (PS3 > Xbox)
2. Based on the overall game play (PS3 = Xbox)
3. Based on the number of people playing (xbox > PS3)
4. Based on personnel preference (PS3 > xbox)
5. Based on Hype (PS3 fanboy > xbox fanboy)
6. Based on number of sell (xbox > PS3)
7. Based on PR BS (xbox = PS3)
8. Based on N4G (PS3 >>>>>> everything else)

[JokesOnYou]

I don't its typical PR talk.

How else do you justify a more expensive console?

Unfortunately for sony public hasn't bit on the same old tactics this gen.

MAG being an "iteration of SOCOM" doesn't inspire a lot of confidence considering SOCOM's last *iteration. lolz

JOY

[sak500]

DROID force bored of kz2 already or u guys dint even buy it? Go buy some games jack@sses. Talking B$hit all day long on n4g will not make ps3 reach 2nd place this gen.

http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N...

[Says you]

Are cause thereaperson got PM from Dave2001

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Thanks for your time Sony Fan bot...i mean fanboy.

and sack500 actually believes the %6 from Hiphopgamer about Killzone 2 please and you guys talk about the PS3 being in second place yeah right!

RROD+increasing ER74=inflating XBox 360 sells world wide to repeat buyers.

[BULLETBOI]

what's up with 360 fanboys not being able to finish fights that they start...they jump on a article and try to prove nothing and after they get beat down. They run like donkeys(other word not allowed), next time when you start a fight, stay until its finishes...

And they say, it PS3 fanboy site....lol.....

[xg-ei8ht]

Well i downloaded that trailer for killzone2, the one where you can change settings, slow it down, etc.

Amazing work.

As for 256 players.

Must have massive maps, tons upon tons of vehicles.

I've sold killzone 2 for that reason, MP is crowed into smaller maps and as a result, Has caused way to much spam, rl nades etc. Trying to complete an objective while 25nades blowup, and bullets flying everywhere is just silly.

I loved the SP, and for awhile i loved the MP, but things need to change. So before everyone starts hyping up MAG, Wait and see.

This is a message to SONY!!!!

If you wish to get more people to buy your system, You need to have it working in shops, With games they can play, like killzone2,motorstorm2.etc.

People like to have the controller in their hands and try out some games.

Not stare at videos, i.e GT5P.

[OrganicMachine]

I have to agree with ya.. my local best buy has 360 on all the times and the PS3 is off.. lol

on the multiplayer side.. only dumba55es throw spawn grenades next to the objective... avoid those at all times and you'll be fine..

and depending on the time you are playing, good players (aka not idiots) play late nights...

[pshizle]

with last gen graphix...

if they managed to have decent next gen graphix for this game that would be an amazing feat till then i cant really see it...i guess we will have to wait till E3.

[Pootie Tang]

One thing I think that is overlooked is the question --is this 256 players all on the screen in one enormous battle or as I understand you are divided into squads and work towards objectives.

I think you play as an 8 man squad but that squad is sorta part of a larger squad and so on? so if is 128vs128 then each side has 16 squads who each must have smaller objectives working towards one massive group objective?
Is this what everyone else understands? Wikipedia says the 8 man squad thing but they don't know a whole bunch. I really want this game and more info

It sounds epic however it's done,

[FantasyStar]

I'll believe it when I see it. The article is too vague as to exactly how it's "only possible".

[nothere413]

Does it matter?

[James Vanderbeek]

the ps3 is the BOMB and a force to be reckoned with

[someanimalsdance]

You mean i WONT BE ABLE to play a game with 255 other people! on my 360! wtf am i gonna DO?!. Great, the cell can render 256 character models all at the same time. Isn't it about time SONY stopped trying to reinforce their decision to include a CELL processor, and start making decent games? KZ2 multiplayer sucks bad enough with 32 players, "TURRET LIMIT". "SPAWNING ON TOP OF ENEMIES". Its funny how they mention the CELL processor is capable of doing this, yet they dont mention the necessary bandwith needed to do it, and where it's going to come from?

Now watch all PS3 Fanboys add this to their list of UNRELEASED GAMES, that they can pretend are better than the 360, even though they havnt played any of them

IE: "OH if your 360 is so amazing, why cant it run games like uncharted 2, GOW3, Heavy rain, and MAG. These amazing games are so much better than your games. Blah blah blah, i'm a dirty tramp"

It gonna be fun to have all 256 of the people who wasted their money on a PS3' in the same server, isnt it?

[FPShooter]

you sound like someone who is trying to reassure their self of the console of choice.

Until MS can prove that the 360 is capable of producing KZ2 and Uncharted quality games than SONY can continue to say "only possible on PS3" because as of now its true.

so don't be mad at SONY for stating the facts, just tell MS to put up or shut up.

[Ps_alm3k]

when sony say exclusive and only ps3 can do that, they meant it.
Dev or Pr on 360 can never claim that their game's can only be on 360
hahahahaah because most of their exclusive go to PS3.......
Face it, Sony is a daring company, they expand the horizan and Ms is chicken Sh@t!!!!
Prove to me Ms that Your games can defy Console and Software limitation.

[BobbySaget]

As far as i know, not a single Xbox 360 exclusive has gone to PS3.

On the otherhand, SEVERAL PS3 exclusives have gone to the 360.
Assassins Creed
FFXIII
Devil May Cry 4
Virtual Fighter 5
Beautiful Katamari
Fatal Inertia
Grand Theft Auto 4

I think you need to do a little research before posting false posts.
All of these games (could only be done on the PS3), and are now on the 360 which... proves the your post to be completely wrong.

[OrganicMachine]

some of those games you mentioned were exclusive to the Playstation BRAND (aka from ps2 and ps1).. not the PS3 itself since some of those games haven't been released yet, you can only say that those games were exclusive to the PS3 when they are released on the PS3 first and then created for teh Xbox360..

and I don't recall hearing those developers saying "it can only be done on the PS3" bull5hit since all those games belongs to third party devs..

the only "it can be done only on the PS3" BS I hear from is from Sony and Sony's first party devs... so YOU do your research..

[BobbySaget]

Assassins Creed
FFXIII
Devil May Cry 4
Virtual Fighter 5
Grand Theft Auto 4

FFXII, Virtual Fighter 5, and Assassins Creed, were stated by developers, to be exclusive to the PS3, not exclusive to the PS brand. FFXII, Assassins Creed, and Devil May Cry 4 had all of you UP IN FLAMES, stating that there was no way they could be done on 360. Assassins Creed i believe even had developer's support saying it couldnt run on the 360. FFXIII had several developers saying it couldnt be done on the 360, and you PS3 Fanboys believed them. Now those same developer's are saying that FFXIII is using 100% of the PS3's power (Therefor deducting that the 360 must be equal in power, or have more power) and NOW you decide not to listen to those DEV's ,and instead FLAME them for suggesting that your PS3 has limits. So back to my point, all of these third party devs did some investigation and realized "WOW not only can the 360 run these games better, but we will double our profit by releasing the game for both systems). Thus they did, and thus we have comparison videos showing the 360 running them better. This is called losing an exclusive. For GTA4 and DMC4 it doesnt really matter that the game was Exclsuive to the brand or not, the point is SONY lost its exclusives.

Virtual fighter was actually released for the PS3 and then came to the 360 later. But it isn't necessary for that to happen for the PS3 to have "lost an exclusive", it just means in the other cases, that the PS3 lost its exclusive BEFORE THE GAME WAS EVEN RELEASED which, if anything, is a bigger blow. Having an exclusive released on another console AFTER it was released for the PS3 is'nt an issue. In that case, the PS3 would have already made all of its sales and it wouldnt even matter.

So even if your interpretation of "losing and exclusive" is different, that doesnt mean the fundamental idea of have a game be exclusive, and then.. lose that adjective... somehow doesnt mean the same thing. Like every other fanboy, he spams each and every forum trying to reassure himself that buying a PS3 was a good choice.

"HA 256 PLAYERS! i knew i should have bought this PS3, no way the 360 can do that" as if we care?

"HA KZ2 is only on the PS3, and i think it looks better" as if we dont have any exclusives.. which have sold 20x as many copies (halo 3).

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EITHER WAY though, i dont see how that compromises my post to the first poster anyways. He tried to say the exact opposite which was blatantly untrue.

[James Vanderbeek]

Too Human can only be done on the 360...

[Ps_alm3k]

That is spectacular??

[N4g_null]

This is hilarious. How much do you guys really know about the 256 people online? Do you guys realize it is broken up into squads? That must do certain things on the battle field rather than have say 60 people in one building throw grenades LOL.

The game will be a test to see if MMO server game play will work in a online shooter which is a nightmera waiting to happen.

I hope they pull it off since MMos already do this. The screens and not making me excited though. As a designer I'm wondering how they are going to deal with the idea of 50 people clogging up a hall way?

[Jecht]

HipHopGamerShow will release an interview with an ex-developer from some former Microsoft Games 1st party studio who will say "MAG is possible on the 360". I also predict a flame war. Oops, too late.

[Mr Face Creamer]

Why is it that EVERY game thats exclusively on the PS3 can't be "done" on the 360... Sony talks pure BS, I love my PS3 but some of the games Sony brags about can be done 2x better on the 360 if they actually tried.

I'd like to see how this game turns out, maybe they'll make a 256 players game with no textures on screen other than the players, Sony think they're going to be able to fill up 256 spots in the game while they can't get more than 20 players on a Warhawk match.

This game will likely be an utter phail, probably no single-player and extreme lag.

Anyway I'll host a 200+ player server on my 1MB connection any time! And so will the other 500K+ suckers who buy this.

[jBat17]

ps3 games use dedicated servers.. no need to host games in PSN.. you can create games but dedicated servers will do the work..

aren't tired of hosting laggy p2p gears of lag games?

[devilsoultaker]

Please prove me wrong and show me Halo on PS3

[N4g_null]

Apparently it can not handle live either. Just an observation since the PS3 is competing with the xbox.

[No Way]

"Keep up the hate dear. Love how you're dragging a PC into this." True, it shouldn't have been brought into this.. But, do I need to remind you that the Sony fanboys always bring up the PC in x360 articles?

On topic, I hate when companies say this.. there are games on the x360 that is only possible on x360. Why? Because, it was Made for THAT system!

And, also.. Can't wait for this game. :)

[cliffbo]

so how many players can play in Gears (without lag)? i can't remember.

[rob6021]

What bugs me about MAG is the inevitability of having respawn. Part of the reason Socom was great to me was the fact that your death would actually mean something, because you have to sit out for the remainder of the round. In the same token every kill you had would play out huge dividends for the round - (I know it's less of an impact with 32 players.)

The whole idea of one army attacking a fortified area of the other seems really cool though, I'm wondering where you'll respawn at. The game is going to be all out chaos if you have that many people shooting at the same time - which might be quite a spectacle: I just hope they can make it pretty.

[rob6021]

I'm really skeptical that Zipper will go with their old strategy of having more players means you have to have bigger maps. We don't necessarily want that really. I don't really want a battlefield game. I mean Resistance 2 proved that more doesn't mean better with 64 guys. Killzone 2 has better competitive multiplayer than R2 did.

It's all about how they handle it, and yea they need to have everyone around everyone - that would be crazy. One huge Clusterf***. U know that would be sick. Knowing How sony shares tech with all their first party studios now, I'm really hoping to see the killzone 2 animation system in play here; the ragdoll/mocap combo they used. Would be insane: imagine a huge explosion on 10 guys and their bodies flying all over the place. And then you see the same thing over and over.

And the interface needs to be a lot better than the bare-bones confrontation interface. Although i don't blame slantsix for that because of low budget.

[clintos59]

indeed those halo numbers are impressive but tell me how do u compare a first person shooter to a platform game? Not only that but no matter how big those halo 3 numbers are, it wont stop little big planet from getting all the awards including game of the year. Did halo 3 get game of the year? Yeah come back and see me when halo 3 ever accomplishes an award worth showing a games quality. :)

[Goldenarmz]

is getting reallll old... why do they continue to say "can only be done on PS3" well duh....because the game is ONLY coming out for the PS3, ill believe it when a 3rd party company does a game soley for the PS3 and say it can only be done on the PS3, they said the same thing about KZII and then a guy from bungie who worked on both systems said it could easily be done on 360, its just that the game is owned by sony so you can easily say it can only be done on the PS3 because no one will ever be able to prove you wrong. And we see how well 256 players hold up online.

[jack who]

yeah ok sony

[360_Rules]

The 360 has MP games that have vehicles in them. Halo 3, Perfect Dark Zero, and Frontlines that has 50 players. So next time Droids don't say the 360 can't do something before you do some research. Now go back to playing your vehicle less boring Killzone 2! Hahahahhahaa

[aiphanes]

We should see something at E3 2009 or the tokoyo gamming show...

Its gonna be good!

The Xbox can not touch MAG!

[Ps_alm3k]

Sony is actually making these kind of games...........

[Thoreau]

so i can get my daily sodium content.

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just joking.

i am reading many posts that doubt the ps3, but where are the 360 games pulling this off? i have 60 set aside for wake, but after wake what is next? i'll admit, this game might be one giant clusterfrag, but the choice of CODMW2, KZ2, and MAG. D@mn, variety is the spice of life.

[Thoreau]

show me 2 360 games with the fidelity of MGS4 and KZ2.

[terrandragon]

The proof is in the pudding. Oh wait...what pudding?

[OrganicMachine]

I remember when Multiplat games came out and PS3 versions looked SLIGHTLY less polished than the 360 versions, every 360 fan boys laughed at the PS3's so-called uber-power Cell... games like GTA4, Rainbow6Vegas 2, bioshock, Fallout 3, etc..

now that PS3 delievered Killzone 2, showed Uncharted 2, and God of War 3.. Every 360 Fanboys now are using the argument "gameplay" .. Wow.. just WOW... "graphics don't make gameplay.. :P"

First off.. First person shooters are OVER-SATURATED... there's just too many of them, you cannot innovate it without sacrifices (aka Mirror's edge) everything else they did with FPS are gimmicks.. what developers can do is to intesify the ACTION EXPERIENCE.. just like what Infinityward did with Call of Duty 4.. it's the same basic generic concept of an FPS but the EXPERIENCE is fantastic.. Killzone 2 did that, same generic FPS with the first person cover gimmick, but the game's visuals and atmosphere made up for the EXPERIENCE... what did Crysis do to FPS? they just made Crysis looked as gorgeous looking because they want that kind of EXPERIENCE from players..
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now that I got that out of the way, MAG's 256 player game will be a TPS, if what they're saying is that 256 players at the same time.. and TPS which means a wider range for the camera to take in, which means that a lot of things will go in at the same time on screen... well, I hope this will be that "100%" of the ps3 power then.. I'm still skeptical about that.. I know for sure it won't have Killzone 2's grahpics but to pull that off will still be a technical feat..
"BUBUBUBUBUUTYTTT TEH GAMEPLAY!!!" they says.. yeah.. sure.. keep using that gameplay arguement.. PS3 basically shut your "GRAPHICS IS EPIC" argument up... stupid fanboys, play your games...

[BobbySaget]

Um you just compared multi-plat games to exclusives. Yes all of our MULTI-PLAT games looked better, and naturally we made fun of you for it. Because all of you spent hours FLAMING us for how our system was "SUPPOSEDLY LESS POWERFUL" while your system couldnt even run a dumbed down PC game decently. You had it coming.

Then less than 2 months ago, killzone2 was released, which has sold under 1 million copies. So not only has it been a major failure in terms of sales (WWE wrestle mania is selling faster, RE5 on the 360 has sold more copies, and KZ2 is in 20th place on the charts). But it obviously was a major failure in terms of PS3 fans, because only 6% of PS3 owners have bought KZ2. Likewise, it is only your opinion that KZ2 look "the best" not a fact.

However even if KZ2 did have the best graphics... IT CAME OUT 2 MONTHS AGO... i capitalized that one for you. It has been in development for 4 years. Do you really expect the 360 to release a better looking game...in under 2 months in response to KZ2? Even someone like you should understand how ridiculous that sounds. Plenty of us think Gears2 looks far better FYI, and your disagreement doesnt make us 'wrong'.

And ofcourse gameplay is the most important to any player (whom doesnt own a PS3). Isnt that why we play-games? for their game-play? or am i wrong? And no graphics dont make gameplay... they are cosmetics.

Im not even going to asses your last statement about how us fanboys need to shutup and play our games.. because i think we all see the irony in that.

[OrganicMachine]

I only mention Graphics since that's what YOU 360 fanboys been Bragging about for 2 straight years, I did not imply Graphics > Gameplay. if you think I did then I'm pretty sure you miss the QUOTATION MARKS.. meaning that's what you 360fanboys been saying after the PS3 disproved your Graphics better on the 360 rants.."GRAPHICS DON'T MAKE GAMEPLAY :P" <--- see quotations, this is what 360fanboys recently been using now...

I did mention that Graphics enhances the EXPERIENCE of the GAME.. look for the difference between EXPERIENCE and GAME PLAY coz I think you just miss my point...
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yes, I expect the Xbox360 to release a much better graphics and a technological feat. than killzone 2 since:

1. It came out 1 year early
2. xbox360's suppposedly easy development, LIKE A PC

since when is sales merit a quality game? If you're gonna use that argument then Wii Fit is the best F*cking game ever and I'm sure plenty will agree with that..

Major failure with PS3 fans? omg.. obviously you haven't heard of the term "target Market".. Killzone 2 wasn't made for Everybody, maybe all those 6% PS3 owners are shooters fans like me..

Gears of war 2 look better? I own a PC that can run Unreal 3 on maxed settings on a 1920 x 1080 resolution, vsync on, 60FPS .. that's basically the same graphics and tech.. and like you said earlier, graphics are just cosmetics and with that it's up to viewer who thinks which graphics appeals to them.

[BobbySaget]

Ya but keep in mind, the fact the the 360 is easy to develop for means that DEV's can be lazy. If you watch all of the 360 developer interviews, they are all developing 360 games using a PC. Instead of developing games that specifically take advantage of the 360's 3-cored, 6-threaded, 3.2ghz, in-order processor, the devs just make a PC game and pop it in the 360 KNOWING that it will run fine. For the PS3 they cannot do that, because the PS3 is poor at running 'PC games'. Instead the developers are FORCED to play around with the cell in order to optimize their games. In doing so they can also use any of the cells left over power to add in some additional shaders, physics, animations, etc.

But the truth of the mater, is that both consoles have shown OVER and OVER again that they are nearly identical in power. You said yourself that the 360 WILL release a game better looking that KZ2, the question is just WHEN? I will be the first to admit that HALO 3 looks awful. Honestly BioWare and EPIC are the only companies that have even ATTEMPTED to focus on graphics. So i think the real issue here is that 360 developers, thus far, are screwing us over.

However in science there is a term (i forgot what its called). In order to compare two things you must use a standard of measurement. When comparing the success of consoles and video games, the only measurement that can be used to compare is SALES. You cannot use graphics etc, because most of those boil down to opinion, while sales do not. Thussly the 360 is doing alot better than the PS3, and if you look at the sales chart, it shows no signs of slowing down.

Does this mean the PS3 sucks.. no. Does it mean its more powerful? no. Does it mean the 360 sucks? no. does it mean the 360 is more powerful? no? it simply means the 360 is doing better, and is more popular, which is all that can be considered when it comes to success.

When it comes to Wii fit, i think its high sales just prove that there are alot of fat people who dont want to go to the gym.

And yes, my computer can max out the unreal engine aswell, but since the KZ2 engine isnt on the computer how can we compare? Since it uses the cells architecture it CANNOT be ran on a computer unless it is changed. Computers still use Multi-core/mutli-thread processors. I mean afterall a new QUAD-CORE processor can cost as much as 1000$ and it is far superior the the CELL in the ps3. But even it would'nt be able to run KZ2 unless they changed the engine.

[younglj01]

SONY please keep this game a TPS because Im gettin freaking sick and tried of FPS.There are too many of them on tha market and MW2 is coming and thats going 2 b a FPS so dont flood tha market with all of these FPS then you won't have to worry about being compare to HALO,COD,KZ2,R2,and tha other FPS that is out now.

[BobbySaget]

wha

[arkalos13]

wow im really startin to hate those dudes that write essays on this site as a comment. its a comment not an essay. anyways MAG is amazing.

[Sanhlami]

I look forward to MAG. Although I have some doubt for it since that is a pretty big number of players and I haven't seen any gameplay videos of it yet. I hope it turns out good.

[Superduper09]

I thought that this game will be released next year. Guess I was wrong lol.

[vTuro24]

PS3 exclusives only possible on PS3!!!

RROD only possible on XBOX360!!!

CRYSIS graphics only possible on PC!!!

i have no idea what only possible on WII!!!

OMG!!!