See Resident Evil 5 prototype running on UE3

The Resident Evil 5 strategy guide had some info and screens on the making of Resident Evil 5. Aside from early concept art and screens of the build used for the very first gameplay footage, they had a few screenshots of the game running on another engine. The only next-gen engine Capcom has aside from their own MT Framework one is the Unreal Engine 3 which they licensed a few years back.

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

If Resident Evil 5 was running on UE3 then Chris's hair must have looked as if he poured an entire bucket of gel over it. The walls would look like there's vaseline all over them and the textures, well, see for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Kain81]

i didn´t know that the textures would pop up so extremly Slow.
It needed 17-20 seconds to load the textures O.O

[ToastyMcNibbles]

as much as i love mass effect..the game technically was not impressive...not only were the texture pop ins an issue but the game couldnt even handle 5 people shooting each other on the screen at once

[ShabzS]

its the unreal engine .. its a good engine but its known for its notorious texture pop ins... even bioshock suffers from it...

[Kushan]

It's not a fault of the engine, it's just developers not correctly using a feature of the engine.

The engine is designed for streaming data in as it needs it. This means you get shorter loading times and much larger levels, but some games do not optimise for it very well, creating a very obvious texture pop-in. Mass effect is the best example of this game and it's been described as a "technical mess".
Perhaps the blame can be attributed to Epic as well, though, it's not an uncommon issue, so perhaps the documentation for UE3 isn't as good as it could be. But it's not really the engine's "fault", if a developer knows what they're doing, you'll never notice the streaming process.

As for the "shiny" issue people have with Unreal tech, once again it's not a fault of the engine. The engine supports specular highlighting, some developers just go a bit extreme with the spec map, probably a "It's a feature, thus we must use it!" thing.

[ToastyMcNibbles]

i think you both are right about it...i think its both the developers and the engine

[iNcRiMiNaTi]

i guess its epic's fault for not knowing how to use their own engine and not the engine's fault?

i agree on the spec maps but its not only the spec maps tho, i noticed from messing around with various 3d programs that normal mapping can give models that glossy look also. the engine does produce nice visuals when it does load, its just a little annoying when u have to wait for the textures to finally load up

[KingKionic]

the engine has a history of load times which most time last for 9 seconnds till they come in. its still a great engine.

[likedamaster]

@Ghost

It doesn't say it's running on the UE3.

[BLuKhaos]

It's common knowledge that Mass Effect runs on the UE3.

[pshizle]

it runs much better

mass effect has to be one of my favorite games of all time

[barom]

Can't make much about the screens, they're so small. Are these the original sizes?

[goflyakite]

Just realized this, why isn't anyone saying anything about the colors in RE5. Looking at those pictures it seems really gray.

Nobody had any problems saying it about KZ2.

[joemayo76]

I actually find the artwork more interesting than the screenshots (hey Capcom wheres the RE5 artbook?!?!)

Also anyone catch Chris's bicep under UE3?? dam and people say he looks like he's on steroids in the retail version, under the UE3 his biceps take up like half the screen (joking) :)

[KingKionic]

your comparing mass effect as the power of the engine? the loading textures stop if you want to install them to your drive.

[Halochampian]

I guess you havent played the game or demo to see that it's actually very bright game.

Just trying to stir stuff up?

[goflyakite]

I've played the demo, I tried to edit my post to say brown. Either way, the demo and these pictures are very colorless. And I'm just stating that I don't understand why nobody is saying anything about it, while it was a huge problem with KZ2. (which btw is very colorful in some levels)

(have not played the full game)

[Temp89]

I apologise in advance for the resolution.

[likedamaster]

Yeah, those pictures were horrible you can't see them! Those aren't good screenshots at all. Were they taken from a cellphone?

[s8anicslayer]

Thank god they scraped that UE3 build, the game looks alot better with the MT Framework engine!

[farhsa2008]

much prefer the current one anyway

[Kushan]

There is nothing to say that it's actually the Unreal engine, it could be any number of engines, even the old RE4 engine. Still, I do enjoy seeing stuff like this, it's amazing how some games progress, for both the better and the worse.

[s8anicslayer]

no that looks like theUE3 engine, it looks like a Gears mod

[Panthers]

They are making a big assumption there.

RE5 looks great now, but other games look better. The trees in RE5 look terrible and so do some textures.

[dkgshiz]

The pop in is god awful. Thank goodness RE5 doesn't use it. That engine just makes things look way to shiny. If you would take away the shine it would look like garbage. I admire developers that make there own engines. They call it in house game engine I think. A bunch of developers have done this in there games Such as Naughty dog with Uncharted and Hideo with MGS4. One engine that every game should start using is the Deferred Rendering engine. Thats the engine KZ2 uses. Or just make a new engine from the ground up like Naughty dog.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Why does your avatar look like a dead transvestite zombie?

[dkgshiz]

Honestly don't know. Its random.

[Mad_Rhetoric]

MT frame work really shows how dynamic capcoms engine is with games like dead rising, RE5, Lost planet, SF4, and DMC4

[REALgamer]

Their MT Framework engine was clearly up to the task so I'm glad they used it.

UE3 would also have been good - obviously those shots are from prototypes as they said. If they ended up using UE3 they would have needed serious work on the over-exposed lighting and 'shininess' of the textures in that prototype.

Brothers in Arms showed not all UE3 games need to have the trademark shininess, and Gears 2 had very minimal texture pop-in when I was playing.

I'm intrigued by how much of an improvement the MT Framework 2 engine will be over the first, as RE5 was a pretty damn good-looking game considering it was on the first engine.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I don't know...

There's a reason everything looks "glossy" on the UE3.

IT LOOKS GOOD!!!

[Chubear]

and it'll all be good - simple.

[ShAkKa]

*the female Majini Town* it would had been nice to see it in the final built but i kind of understand why Capcom decided not to put it in(killing women in a game that already was been called racist)

*The Majini with the chair* would had been cool that the enemies could pick stuff from the ground or wherever to use it as a weapon against you.

*In one of the earlier trailers they show Chris shooting the Majinies in a room with no light* that to me was a must and needed to be on the final game.

[LUCKYXS7LEVEN]

back in 07 the game looked it was going back to it's old horror ruts.
until ,PEOPLE BEGAN TO B1TCH ABOUT IT. this is wat i didn't get ? killing spainiards( not mexicans ) it's ok and get game of the year. that doesn't count as racist ? But putting the setting on africa and killing black ppl is racist. it would of been a great single player n have a multiplayer just 4 mercenaries but the protestors ruined this chapter. you know y not a single spanish person didn't complain about RE4 ? bcuz they knew it was a game( A MIND BLOWING GAME) and they can take it. sorry man , just read my 1st sentence bcus the rest was 4 those that complained about RE5 being incorrect . it would of been a AAA title for both systems, but wat we got was an 8 of a game, not a 10.

EDIT:ps3 n xbox fans just stop with the h8 on one another and enjoy wat u have.

[CaitSith]

UE3? They make things look too shiny. I almost vomited after playing the Bioshock demo. Too shiny.

[Etseix]

i guess its better for all the developers to make theyr own Engine so they can properly use it good really?

MT - CAPCOM
UE- Epic AND NOT Square Enix (Last Remnant?)
, most of the games dont use well the Engine when its not a game from the original creator of it.

[akumous]

This is not the unreal engine. It never was.

[VMAN_01]

LOL did anyone lol when they were showing the pic and it said Chris's biceps body size were noticibly toned down on the final engine. His Biceps were massive on the UE3 engine.

[Marceles]

"These sequences of screenshots illustrate Chris evading enemy assaults. There are no visible button prompts here, but players were required to press the Action Button to evade blade attacks back then. The development team also went through several iterations of the grapple attack, each time improving the attack method and camera work."

That would've been kinda cool to bring back the dodge button like in RE3...oh well

[xg-ei8ht]

That's the thing, without the glossy look of ue3, the engine would look even worse.

I don't really understand why everyone shouts about gow1,2 texture wise.

Some textures are nice, but alot of them are horrid and hidden with alot of normal mapping.

Alot of games do this, even KZ2 in some parts. But overall, KZ2 looks better for it.

You play some of KZ2 and looks correct in the overall picture, i don't think GOW2 does.

I'm glad to hear ue3(upgrade coming)-4 they are using a better lighting system. well the use of more lights, and i heard better shadowing, but this will be behind closed doors(GDC)

[manwich25]

I like the final look better

[Droid Control]

RE5 seen running on Sega Megadrive!

[Ashriel]

I would have been cool if everything wasn't green, like in the early build.

[Flare149]

Aside from the Unreal Engines issues, I actually like that version a lot more. Obvously a ton of stuff that could've been really cool was cut out (like the bus being overturned, hopefully not in a cutscene though) and personally I thought it looked a lot brighter and the lighting was cool.

Course, the texture stuff sucks, but the thing you're all forgetting is that was an early build and that probably would've been ironed out later.

[Nicolator]

MTFramework 2.0 is a such a good engine and i blieve i would see some beautiful work being done with it in the near future .. such as lost planet 2 ... and what ever capcom is cooking in their tech... one thing that strike me real hard is the cut scenes how the character models and lifelike they seemed to me i would put it up there in terms of graphic fidelity with even with kz2.. kz2 is beautiful but since it uses alot of false lighting and Grey colours. i am really happy they didnt use ue3 anyway.. coz the character models on there is abit .. em.. blocky.. not so gd as such..

[devilhunterx]

THE BLOOM!! THE HORROR!! THE HORROR!!!

In the UE3.0 version, Chris was more buffed and had scars all over his face.

[BGDad]

But whatever. Actually im going to play rather than talk to you xbots. Go pay another 59.99 you know your subscription is coming up.

[KingKionic]

that was unexpected.... most people who played this were resident evil fans. this would be the best of the franchise....minus the suspense in the game.

[ChickeyCantor]

it looks like the prototype used lots of bright textures and the final build toned it down to grey thing...