Resident Evil 5 is broken...This isn't next gen.

Why can't I shoot and run at the same time?

Why can't I walk backwards and shoot?

Is Chris Redfield supposed to be a trained special forces operative?

[sak500]

I deleted teh demo after 10 mins of play. WtF can't u just shoot with right trigger, instead of zooming and then shooting? Why LS forward+a runs and same is when LS is clicked? Waste of button combo. Rental only.

[Fishy Fingers]

Yup, think I'll only be renting to. Shame really.

[nos4speed]

Same, I tried both parts of the demo and tried it online but i just didnt get the feel for it, not being able to turn while running, shoot while running, reload while running etc etc really lets the game down and the over the shoulder aiming just isnt solid, doesnt match up to dead space perspective.

[DA_SHREDDER]

Agreed.

[PoSTedUP]

yes if they know whats good for them they will fix this or they will be extremely disappointed with the fans feedback and sales. when a RE fan wont touch the next RE game then you know their is something TERRIBLY wrong.

this is exactly what i said about it yesterday "next gen graphics, last gen gameplay"

[Montrealien]

ok, so 3 people wont buy it, millions of others will enjoy it and understand it is resident evil. You want Gears? Killzone? or Metal Gear Solid? play those games. You want Resident Evi?, play Resident evil.

[Kleptic]

totally agree...played the 360 demo, was hoping the controls were confusing me more because of not being that used to the 360's controller...

downloaded the PS3 version yesterday...same problem...the default layout was simply retarded...the 'b' option allows you to use L1 pull up your weapon, and R1 to fire...but L1+X to reload...dumb...X-analog quick turn...dumb...hold X to run...dumb...snappy GTAIV 'while driving' like camera while left stick moves you around (no strafe)...dumb...and the fact that you can't even move forward while having just a fecking knife up is absolutely broken...I don't care if its 'supposed' to make it more intense or whatever...helplessly missing zombies just 2 feet from me with a knife because I can't take one step forware by using the stick is awful...nothing else to say...

yeah whatever for me...the game looked pretty good...but gameplay wise it was a mess for me...I didn't care for Re4 though, as many loved...so that is easily why I dislike RE5's controls so much...as i hated them the first time...I thought Gears was what RE4 should have been all along...and I do understand what RE4 was supposed to be...

look at the IGN gameplay vid of Heavy Rain...that is how Capcom should have changed the camera style for RE imo...it has all kinds of fixed angles, like RE used to...but with camera movement you can control...but if you are going for an over the shoulder shooter...its Gears/Uncharted/MGS4...or bust imo...

[ShinMaster]

...that all the people that are hating on RE5 never played RE4 or were never fans of it in the first place.

THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO PLAY LIKE ANOTHER SHOOTER.
BECAUSE IT IS NOT! It's Resident Evil and plays like it!

"Why can't I shoot and run at the same time?"--- STFU!
It adds to the suspense! The way the camera is set. The way that you turn and move around.

And if you 360 owners don't like it, then f- off and play Gears you love so much.

So what if it's a lot like RE4? It's not like that same gameplay method has been recycled over multiple games like let's say....Halo 3, 2 and 1? Yet considered 3 next-gen and people took it.
Some people don't even know what "next-gen" means.

[DA_SHREDDER]

ok,, 3 people dont like it,, and so will millions of people who bought it. The fact is that its 2009 and people should expect more bang for their buck when buying games. Broken gameplay is inexcusable anymore. The fact that the game plays like ass makes me wonder if the creators of the series ever played a game outside of RE before?

[MisterNiwa]

Jup, i never remember being able to Shoot while running in Resident Evil.

Its Resident Evil, GET, OVER, IT.
Resident Evil 5 is genius.

[PoSTedUP]

how r you and MJ doing? its actually more than 3 people, and as a resident evil fan, its garbage, they did nothing to improve the game play, only the graphics. but what do YOU know, i dont think they'd allow such a violent game in never never land.

[Pennywise]

Congrats Sak, you made a comment without bashing Sony or their fan base. I was scrolling through your previous comments and you seem a bit obsessed and scary about your hate.

On topic: This game will be '09's first disappointment. Sad it will sell millions. It doesnt deserve it.

[GWAVE]

Gamers who sit back and accept whatever developers shovel down their throats is why game quality is decreasing. If this was a new IP, EVERYone (and I truly mean EVERYONE) would be complaining and mocking and calling out the developers for dropping the ball on the controls.

Yet, it's Capcom. Some of you gamers are blinded by nostalgia and wouldn't know "gameplay innovation" if it hit you in the side of the head like a jug full of the T-Virus. You sit there sucking your thumbs making excuses for a game that -- and let's not kid ourselves -- is last-gen. Last-gen animations ripped directly from RE4. Last-gen controls. Last-gen hit detection. Last-gen game mechanics.

[Kleptic]

^^ShinGino...I did say exactly that...

and yeah...thats all i get...'it adds to the suspense'...what?...

frustration and suspense are totally seperate things...you get like 10 zombies all piling around you...while only 1 will attempt an attack on you...all the while you have a giant machete up...swinging it and aimlessly panning in 360 degrees...yet each and every zombie is just out of range of it...so the fact that I have to let go of R2...push the right stick forward to take a step...then pull R2 again...then start spamming R1 again just to remedy a slight distance problem...thats 'suspense'?...instead of simply keeping the knife up and being allowed to take a slow step forward to compensate for distance?...

sorry man...i'm not buying it...i'll put money on capcom addressing this problem before release...then all these 'it keeps it just like RE4' claims will be moot...the game can be just as scary and crazy without lame controls...believe me...

[Maddens Raiders]

that gameplay looks horrible.

[no1safe]

Agreed. This kind of controls might have been acceptable about 10 years ago... I never really liked RE games because of that, and now - after playing the RE5 demo - I can't understand, how the hell they can stick with it in '09...

[Montrealien]

It`s very simple guys, don`t buy it. Have a nice day.

And try not to get mad because some people enjoy a game`s gameplay and you don`t. sh*t happens. It`s not like the max 40 people complaining about it on N4G mean anything to the games industry.

[joydestroy]

yup, won't be buying or renting this one.
SFIV and KZ2 will have to hold me over until something else good comes out.

[Endorphin]

Call me a noob but I don't get what people are complaining about I played it and I love it. Yeah the controls were wacky but I still think its going to be a fantastic coop experience and that's why they are going to get my 60. i really just thought that all Resident Evil played like this and therefore I wasn't surprised. Sometimes its good to remember where you come from and never forget it (nothing wrong with that.) I know someone is gonna say well they must adapt to this new generation of third person shooters but I think that it works in this case.

[Daver]

I was not sure what to expect anf at first i must say that i was very disapointed but after a while you get use to controls and then i played online coop and i enjoyed it a lot, its a very fun game with the coop myabe its not what used to be resident evil, it changed so what

[Foxgod]

Okay, before you people touch a game thats over 15 years in the making, make sure you play the prequels before commenting on things like controls and stuff

This is a survival horror, its supposed to be like this.

[jBat17]

it's Army of Two.. with a weaker shooting mechanics

[nix]

ok.. may be for that time it made sense.. but i tried the demo and darn it's too bulky. moving the guy is as tough as moving a tank in warhawk. and can't i just blind fire just to survive? like in uncharted. uncharted lets you blind fire and hit any one at any time. and having to stand and shooting when the whole village is surrounding you made absolutely no sense. if the number of enemies increases, so should the agility of the player.

and yes... the characters were are slow as zombies. i mean come on. and what's with the knife? it's like really irritating. stand. hold knife. wait. strike five times. wait. can't i just charge?

and yeah. i did finish both the sections. with much difficulty.

and i'm guessing many people are going to buy this just for Co-op mode but whats the use when you're dying half the time?

those were my gripes after playing other "next gen" games. but if the publisher wishes to stick to RE4, then you've lost another customer.

hope they do something about it.

[7h3ultim8p00]

Uhm..guys..you do know that you can change the controls in the options menu right?

[Kleptic]

foxgod...'this is survial horror, its supposed to be this way'...ahah...like Dead Space?...there is no condition where controls are 'supposed' to be overly frustrating an inexcessable...

I particularly love how I have to press 4 buttons in sequence just to take one step forward to hit someone with my machete...

yet Chris will lunge across the room to deliver a crushing blow to the zombie rocking that chick...just by pressing square...the games controls are broken...period...

[ActionBastard]

The controls are dated, yes, but RE5 isn't broken. After playing the PS demo, I started back playing RE4. Then I went back and played the demo again. Buying RE5. I freely admit I was mad when first playing it on the 360 (and no this has nothing to do with the 360) only because the 360 controller and LB/RB buttons suck in RE5, IMO. I tried the RE4 settings in the options, but it still sucked. Playing RE5 with a DualShock set to RE4 control scheme is they way to go.

EDIT: @PoSTedUP
You can use the d-pad to quick select health and weapons. I find this a huge improvement over RE4's briefcase.

[PoSTedUP]

uh id rather capcom change the controls because ALOT of people will be disappointed.

@7h3- not the control scheme but the way the game actually control's, like the movement/camera angle etc.

you have to change your gun through a menu, select it AND equip it WILE the game is in progress, you cant even pause it like in RE4 so you are getting hit left and right wile doing so... seriously capcom?

[littletad]

We wouldn't have had games like Gears of War if it wasn't for RE4. When your work is being influential to others, it's best to continue on with innovation. So it's almost perplexing why they didn't revamp the control's to better suit what were used to this generation.

[callahan09]

@ Montrealien. I want Resident Evil. RE5 isn't it. So what do I do? This game throws in a second player, which completely disturbs the feeling of a traditional Resident Evil game, lobs tons of enemies, ammo, and healing herbs at you, removes any sense of "survival horror," and lacks any mood of creepiness whatsoever.

I find it pathetic, as a Resident Evil fan, that the lackluster Resident Evil 0 is still the most recent Resident Evil game to even remotely resemble a Resident Evil game. They started to veer off track with that one, though, and if you want to go back to the last real Resident Evil game of high quality, you've got to go back 9 years to Resident Evil: Code Veronica.

I want a REAL Resident Evil game again!

[Lifendz]

haven't played it yet on PS3. I can't confirm that you can move while aiming on either version. All I can say is I didn't like it. Yeah, I know this is Resident Evil and this is how they do things but that's no excuse. I'm a friggin special forces soldier and yet I can't move and shoot? Are you kidding me? I can't even melee effectively? Give me a break. It makes it worse that the game is friggin gorgeous. I've been waiting for it for some time and I was really disappointed.

Oh yeah, if me complaining about these controls means I don't like Resident Evil anymore or that I'm some newbie to the series then fine; whatever. Fact is I beat 1, 2, 4, Code Veronica, and was hoping they'd pay attention to what other devs did with 3rd person shooters.

Heck, even Metal Gear now allows you to move and shoot! Remember when you couldn't? People would bish about not being able to move while shooting and then we finally got it.

Step it up for Resident Evil 6 Capcom. I'll gamefly 5 but I aint buying it.

[cayal]

Far out there are some precious people here.

Go play Tic Tac Toe obviously difficult/challenging things are just way over your head.

[Danja]

still gonna be renting it , but im a lil disappointed in Capcom how could they have created a masterpiece like RE:5 and screw up so big on RE:5....

give us total control of the camera....

we should be able to run and gun ...

and the control scheme is a mess....overall.....

[skimming]

Running out of HD space and even if I had a gig, I would have deleted this one.

I've not played previous versions of this before on XBox but the guy moves really really really slow. Why are the controls so cumbersome? I don't need to have it lightning snap but I feel like I'm controlling a robot all the time with a lag in the 0.2 sec range.

The last time I felt this level of frustration was with RE4 on the Wii. Another really weird control scheme.

[behemothzero]

Dude, even Lara Croft did it correctly eventually.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

i had no issues getting into the game. the 360's version plays just like GC's RE4, the controller co ordination seemed to bring me back to 2004.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www....

the analog's placements and functions, nearly identical.

IMO, i owned most of the RE titles including RE0 and RE remake, and i have to say RE 4 made things better, i found nothing wrong with the controls of this new installment.

[StephanieBBB]

Atm im just praying that they implement some of it. Don't have my hopes up though...

[TapiocaMilkTea]

Not a real RE fan, but I agree that sequels NEEDS to improve over previous version! Look at dynasty warriors, it's a great game by itself but everyone's hating it cuz there's nothing new at all!

[Rooster15]

This is the reason I have been giving for 3 years on why I haven't enjoyed Resident Evil since the original.
When Resident Evil came out on the ps1 it was gold. One of the best games I had played up to that point. It was perfect for that generation. Today, we've come such a long way in video game developement that it's almost absurd not to have a running and shooting style of play. "It adds to the suspense"....??? Maybe it did in 1997. But not today.
Bottom Line: If I was being attacked by zombies, your damn sure I will be running and shooting at the same time. You want realism let me shoot with less accuracy when I'm running, walking, or moving backward and add better accuracy when I'm standing still...THIS would add to suspense because realism = suspense.

You want an excellent zombie game...Left4Dead. This will get your blood running. '28 days later' style zombies...now thats scary.

[PLAYWATCH]

I've been playing RE Series as long as I can remember, so I'm not new to the series; I bought the PS1 because of RE1, Where's Barry???, never seen him after that game.

I'm very good with jumping back and forth between different control layouts for different games because I go into each game with a open mind saying different controls for different experiences and may require it for that experience to occur properly.

I'm usually perfectly ok with this, so I can usually overcome the controls pretty damn quickly. For instance, I was able to beat each of the both levels of the RE5 demo on the 2nd try after extensively playing GT5P and Prince of Persia. BUT I still know what an intuitive controls are when I see one, and THIS IS NOT IT.

I mean get with the program. Games and Controls have evolved, and RE5 HASN'T. But I knew this was going to happen.

PSN: PLAYWATCH

[ThichQuangDuck]

I mean did I think the demo was genius no did I love the archaic(sp?) controls that were in RE4 no. But to complain about running and shooting is kinda dumb I mean yes I want to run and shoot like everyone else kill zombies like nothing , but that is what L4D delivers on. Resident Evil 5 delivers horror suspense will I be able to have time to stop shoot and reload before this guy chainsaws me. Also now being able to play with a friend makes it that much more fun. Did I love the demo? No did I love Resident Evil 4? Yes. What are we going to complain about next, you want to take cover in Resident Evil 6 I mean come on? From the articles of RE5 hate I have read it is all the same not move and shoot at the same time when Capcom confirmed this back when they announced RE5. I will personally admit controls feel clunkier(if that is a word) than RE4 ,but there is multiple control schemes and I trust they have tried other control schemes. Overall the Resident Evil 5 demo was ok just that not amazing not horrible am I going to proclaim my hate for it and cancel my pre order no but I will have to see how it does with reviews and maybe use that Gamestop 1 week money back guarantee. I trust Capcom and feel to judge the full game on a demo is a little rough

[Teabag]

I installed it last night, played it twice and then I also uninstalled it. I found the controls and the aiming very poor and the gameplay just terribly stilted, with the enemy movements being very unconvincing.

Not even a rental for me. Shame. Might see if there are any other interesting demos in the next few days :)

[JsonHenry]

I would be happy with being able to walk (slowly) backwards and being able to reload while walking or running. The game doesn't need "run and gun" it just needs walking and gunning.

[Doppy]

I honestly don't see the big deal. WE ALL WISH IT THEY MODERNIZED (again MGS4 was the perfect example of modernizing gameplay) it with simpler controls, but the fact of the matter is they didn't, and the controls they have work.

Everyone is complaining just because it doesn't play like every other 3rd person shooter, and I for one am glad to play something that has a different feel for once. All it takes is a couple of minutes or play troughs to get use to the controls, just like there's a learning curve to any new game you play.

Basically most of you want every game to play the same. Stop jumping on the bandwagon, and play the game. Yes you should be able to move and shoot or move and look through your inventory, but that doesn't hamper the gameplay, because while you're doing that your co-op partner should be holding you guys down until you get back in the game.

This game is receiving unfair judgement, just because it doesn't play like every other game. If you don't like the game DON'T BUY IT.

[andron]

The amount of RE5 hate is getting out of control. I enjoyed the demo and will buy the game.

It controls more or less like RE4, one of my and many others favorite game of all time.

If you don't like it then don't buy it, there are more than enough games out there that play the way you want it too...

[TheExecutive]

ok, not only is the gameplay mechanics broken but when I get limited ammo I EXPECT to be able to drop someone with a headshot in one shot. I literally put 3 shots into this guy point blank in the face and he STILL got up. When I have 40 shots and 30 zombies to kill i expect them to fall realistically.

I expect the same old "it adds to the suspense" crap, but i my book it is just frustrating.

[pixelsword]

he said this on his show sunday, and before on the Warzone, and before the warzone when he called Tor Davis.

I tried it myself, and it was a bad experience; plus hhg was correct on saying it was stupid for the people running at you just to slow down. Capcom wanted to simulate speed, but have to resort to the slow, creeping gameplay that was in the previous RE. It worked for the last one, but this has a different feel that doesn't justify the last game's control scheme.

RE5 is a no-buy... the first RE I will rent since Resident Evil: Outbreak.

[jayd92009]

I smell BS. Those complaining haven't played RE4 before. Don't lie. There's too much hate on this game, for not being a run and gun shooter that it was never intended to be. It ain't a gimmick. This shows how many people just jump on the bandwagon trying to fit in and play a Resident Evil game. Pathetic. Agree to Disagree, I don't give a rat's a$$.

[pixelsword]

...people who played the game expected more than Resident Evil: 4.5.

Maybe, just maybe people wanted the zombies to run and attack you instead of run up to you just to creep up to you at the end.

Maybe, just maybe that control style worked when the enemy walked up to you all of the way like in RE 4... but not in RE 5

Maybe, just maybe enemies who run like the ones that moved faster in RE4 should be alone like in RE 4, unlike RE 5

Maybe, just maybe... those are the reasons.

[Mini Mario]

"These controls were perfectly fine four years ago when Resident 4 came out for the Gamecube but this is next gen. While I was playing the demo I kept asking myself these questions"

I thought controls werent a basis for what is to be considered "next gen" (shouldnt it be called "current gen" anyway>>>?). I thought it was just about the graphics upgrade.... Very hypocritical to the many people complainig about controls.

Well i for one will be buying it, as resi 4 was is still one of my favourite games (the more like R4 it is the better i say). Its the way resident evil is, stand and shoot...if it wasnt broken before how is it broken now.

@skimming

"The last time I felt this level of frustration was with RE4 on the Wii. Another really weird control scheme."

Actually the controls on the wii were a little too easy. Very fun, and is only weird if you havent played it for long....because u get used to it quite easily (within the first leveL)

[AAACE5]

The no shoot and run thing is the main reason I never really liked the RE games. It seems like the stupidest thing in the world to create a good story, memorable characters, etc. and have something so dead tech still present till this day!

That formula worked well on the Ps1, but that was a loooong time ago. I can't believe they still haven't changed that!

[KRUSSIDULL]

These were visuals that in my opinion surpassed Metal Gear Solid 4 and Gears of War 2. I was having a visual orgasm without even starting the game.

LOL!

[Rise Of The Bad Guy]

But the exclusive demo on XBL was supposed to convince people to buy it,what happened?

*Looks off-camera*What's that?Its out on PSN?oh,so it sucks on both platforms then?

[ape007]

that gameplay is identical to resi 4

if you say it sucks,you mean that resi 4 sucks

simple as that

[chaosatom]

If you never played Re4 before, then it might repulse you, but if you have

Then after a little while You get used to it. The Split-screen might convey me to purchase the game, and if IGN and others give a high marks, and the length is pretty good, then I will buy this game.

[Max Power]

more like dated, Res 4 is now dated, and so is Res 5 controls.

[Kleptic]

don't worry about reviews...no reviewer has the balls to ding an RE game in this environment...

it will get the 'frustrating controls detract from the overall experience a little bit, but the game is still a 10'...

RE5 will illustrate how bad controls and gorgeous visuals in a game like Lair are bad...but good in RE5...wait and see...

[plain rice]

Some of you guys are idiots. This is just Resident Evil 4 with amazing HD graphics. BUT its 2009 now, and the control are indeed OUTDATED for this generation of games. It was acceptable in RE4 but please don't bring that "if it was ok with RE4, it is ok with RE5". That's just a bullsh*t excuse. The game is not broken but the controls need major reworks.

IMO, they need to delay this game.

[Raz]

It isn't just the controls. It feels like the whole demo was pieced together from the PS2-era and given a facelift.

Just because something worked in the past, doesn't mean it will work again in the future; and slapping a slick coat of pixels on a last-gen game isn't fooling anybody.

Leaving the game mostly as it was in the last installment might please hardcore fans of the franchise - but the vast majority of us were hoping for something a tad more up-to-date, Capcom.

I understand you will be able to run n' gun in the release; but it'll still be a marginal improvement on an otherwise underwhelming effort (one that doesn't even compare with next-gen survival horror titles like FEAR2 and Dead Space).

Geez, even Mario was faithfully updated over time. Sometimes the results were disappointing, but you could at least credit Nintendo for making the effort to stay current.

Resident Evil may soon follow in the footsteps of another survival horror franchise that bit the big one for resisting change: Silent Hill.

[DeadIIIRed]

But I played a couple years ago, I wanted something new from Capcom.

[GWAVE]

Although many will defend RE5 saying that the controls are "classic" RE controls, that's a lie. "Classic" RE controls would be within fixed-camera environments.

I don't remember anyone complaining about "classic" controls when Halo: Combat Evolved came out and revolutionized console FPS controls. I don't remember anyone complaining about "classic" controls when the Fight Night boxing game or Skate game revolutionized controls in their respective sports genres. I don't remember anyone complaining about the "classic" Prince of Persia when Sands of Time came out and rocked our perceptions of what a 3rd-person action game could be. Did anyone else hear complaints? Did anyone complain about the revamped controls in MGS4?

Yet, somehow we NEED to preserve the "classic" controls of the RE series or it'll turn into a horrible franchise. There was only ONE legitimate reason why the controls should stay the same way: it makes the game more intense. Arguably, the controls make the game more intense, but wait! What's this? It's a game called "Dead Space". Dead Space absolutely destroyed any frail arguments that "stand still while you shoot" controls somehow make a game scarier. You can run, turn, backpedal, and shoot in Dead Space and it's still a terrifying game.

Not only did Capcom fail to update the controls, but they failed to update the animations. Playing through the demo was a joke. I counted the number of "new" animations on one hand.

Oh, but they're Capcom. Give 'em a free pass. I'm sure because they included co-op the game will be "revolutionary" and amazing according to reviewers.

[CrippleH]

Controls evolve man.

If it didn't you would still be playing with Resident evil 2 controls.

[GWAVE]

Precisely my point.

[Kleptic]

It was only recently that I watched the full E3 showing of Heavy Rain...not just the trailer...up until then...i thought it was a classic RE fixed camera...with quick time events...

and I was totally wrong...it was classic RE camera angles, but you had control over each camera...it would pan with you (or away, you had control of it)...but stayed 'mounted'...if that made any sense...

and to me...that is EXACTLY what RE5, or RE4 should have gone after...I am one of the 6 people on earth apparently that did not like Re4...i liked the camera angle...liked the story and visuals...hated the controls...always...it felt to me like it had an excellent new idea, just didn't know what to do with it...then Gears came along and picked up the slack imo...

and I get constantly criticized for that...you say you like Gears camera angle and control...and I get 'well RE4 did it first'...wrong...Re4 did the camera angle...with a completely broken Japanese control scheme...

I will put up $100 Capcom changes this...and I bet Dead Space is the reason why...Dead Space proves without question that you don't need completely awkward controls to keep a survival horror game grounded in that genre...I don't want a run and gun Re5...but what is wrong with something like Uncharted...where you can pull your gun up, yet strafe and move forward/backward at a much lower pace?...

and not just that...if you want the behind the shoulder view locked...then put both sticks into it...turning left in that game is a joke (unless you are the chick in co-op, then turning right is a joke)...as you have a terrible snappy control of the camera to see 'around' your bulking character model...you can't strafe to keep known enemies in your sight line...which is dumb imo...

and what about running?...you have no control over the camera view when running...because your thumb is stuck on a face button...holding it down simply to jog...then turning left results in you not seeing anything in your new path at first...which is usually that a$$hole with the axe and the nails sticking out of him...

whatever...it was like being sexed on spikes for me...

[CrippleH]

That's what some people don't get.

I'm a huge MGS fan and I wouldn't mind the controls being the same but other people think otherwise. It changed for the better so more people could play it.

Controls have to evolve.

Good controls are the one you never had to think about.

[Dread]

well i am on the fence on this alleged control problem. I loved RE4 and never had a problem with the controls once i got used to it. I'll wait for the game and see if there really is a problem once i played more than just a level in a demo.

notwithstanding i have to admit that somehting did not feel right. It felt weird. SO it might be that the bar has been raised by the likes of gears and dead space (only as to controls mind u), but it might also be a clunky camera..

i hope this games delivers regardless the possible contol problems. It is a first day buy for me.
peace

[Kleptic]

yeah MGS4 is a great example of a very pedigree'd franchise that had a developer very willing to adapt to new layouts...even if it meant losing some of that 'prestige'...

MGS4 has EXCELLENT gun mechanics now...but Kojima kept the ridiculously complicated CQC stuff for the fans...make the core gameplay playable Capcom...you can leave other stuff true to the series in place if you want...

hell...if Capcom wants this to be so true to its roots...bring back the typewriter ribbons...i'm sure that will go over well too...

[cayal]

"Oh, but they're Capcom. Give 'em a free pass. I'm sure because they included co-op the game will be "revolutionary" and amazing according to reviewers."

Precisely what I love about mindless idiots. Reviewers have played the game, you haven't. Yet you think your ignorance of the game is more knowledgeable than the countless reviews giving it high scores.

Bravo on thinking your sh!t don't stink.

@below

"And last I checked, there aren't any reviews out. "

Check again

http://ve3d.ign.com/article...

[GWAVE]

@ cayal

I played the demo, and that's what I'm commenting on. And last I checked, there aren't any reviews out.

Sorry, but no cigar.

EDIT: So there IS a review out. One review. Whoopee. I still don't see how it invalidates my comments on the controls in the demo. Does the review copy of the game somehow have controls that DON'T reek of last-gen? Thanks for addressing my posts like a champ.

[turricanes1385]

I really hope that they can fix the controls before the release date but I seriously doubt it.

[Foxgod]

Why fix something that isnt broken ?
Resident evil became popular thanks to the way it plays.

[GWAVE]

@ Foxgod

The Resident Evil series received the highest review scores, the highest sales, and the highest number of mentions on "Best 100 games of all time" lists (and similar lists) when RE4 came out.

Hmmm. Let's think about that. RE4 is the LEAST like the other games in the series. It uses a different camera. It doesn't use pre-rendered backgrounds. It uses different controls. It has different sorts of quick-time events. It has different pacing. It has different action.

So actually, Resident Evil became popular thanks to MAJOR CHANGES in the series that made it more accessible to the mainstream. You are incorrect.

[Foxgod]

Non pre rendered backgrounds, wut ?

ANyway, the features you mentioned are minor additions, and with re4 the series didnt get more popular, it remained more or less the same.

A different camera and some button timer events really dont make it a different game all of sudden.

And i ve read the stupidest suggestions here, that would turn this game into a action shooter, instead of s survival horror, so its fine the way it is, try to get adapted to something.

@below

Have you people forgotten that re4 and 5 isnt about zombies ?
Its about people infected with parasites and becoming mindless killing machines.

They are not undeads as in re 1 ~ 3, where they got infected by the T virus, a zombie can be killed with a shot in the head, however a parasite in re4 and 5 cant.

I want real zombies back too, but people that played re4 knew what would be coming in re5, they shouldnt complain as if they are suprised.

[Kleptic]

foxgod...just a few posts up you were saying how 'its 15 years in the making...this is RE, its how its supposed to be'...

and now you are confused by what he meant on 'pre-rendered' backgrounds?...RE4 is the only game in the franchise, aside from the upcoming RE5, to not have that...

fixed cameras, limited saves, limited ammo, and a gorgeous 'painted' backdrop are what made RE the franchise it was...Re4 turned that on its head...and most loved it...some of us hated it...controls where NEVER justified as to keeping it scary...the franchise was all about its atmosphere back then...not gimmicky controls to counter act a more intuitive camera angle...

[GWAVE]

Foxgod, I'm sorry to say it, but Resident Evil stopped being surival horror roughly around the time when you were able to headshot 5 zombies within a few seconds in RE4. RE4 and 5 are "3rd-person action". They just happens to include zombies.

If you want survival horror I'd like to direct your attention to Dead Space, Condemned, System Shock 2, Call of Cthulu, Penumbra, the Silent Hill series, or even the Fatal Frame series.

[cayal]

"
The Resident Evil series received the highest review scores, the highest sales, and the highest number of mentions on "Best 100 games of all time" lists (and similar lists) when RE4 came out.

Hmmm. Let's think about that. RE4 is the LEAST like the other games in the series. It uses a different camera. It doesn't use pre-rendered backgrounds. It uses different controls. It has different sorts of quick-time events. It has different pacing. It has different action.

So actually, Resident Evil became popular thanks to MAJOR CHANGES in the series that made it more accessible to the mainstream. You are incorrect."

Yet here you are complaining about those changes. If it worked, why change it?

[killzone2flop]

Don't worry about sales Capcom on xbox360 you can guarantee millions day one but ps3 don't count on it. Just make Resident Evil 6 Xbox360 Exclusive next time round.

[OmarJA]

PP what are you doing here ? this game is not suitable for you're age...

go play Banjo...

[krouse93]

what a fÁggot PP go Fukc your self

[NegativeCreep427]

and choke on some pig vomit.

[sit down droid]

i lol

[ultimolu]

You give 360 fans a terrible name...

[nycredude]

If they made this exclusive they would be doing me a favor as this shiat sucked ass! Deadspace runs rings around this (literally)! Special Ops soldier my ass! Can't knife and move at the same time? WTF! And what about the shiatty AI and the stupid texas chainsaw leatherface, really original! RE4 all over again!

Thank god Killzone2 is coming out soon!

[TheOutsider]

Penis Pounder! You got KILLZOWNED B*TCH!

[zag]

Maybe it was making it so it'd work on the 360 that screwed the game, after all working with limited crap doesn't give you great games only limited half arsed sh*t.

It's the same deal with 360 games ported to PC everything is all limited can't zoom in or out and crap compressed textures just so stuff work will work on the 360.

MS getting into consoles was a bad business move.

[MegaMohsi]

All the gripes he had with the game are the same ones I have, the controls feel so clunky after having played all those other TPS games with fluid controls, especially the inability to move and shoot or aim and move at the same time. These "classic" controls don't work anymore, plain and simple. Even the most die hard RE fan has to admit to that.

[locos85]

I've played every main RE game so far from RE1-RE4. To me the RE5 controls don't work anymore. We are used to more fluid gameplay now. Those clunky controls worked back then but not now. Dead Space is great.

[darkwing]

Sad thing is, this game will still millions because its RE

[enviable27]

The main reason why the controls do not work in this game is that there are just way too many enemies on screen, thus making the game frustrating, I honestly dont remember RE4 being like this, and to add to that game the camera didnt suck like RE5.

[Kleptic]

I was going to suggest that...I haven't played RE4 for a few years...but I never remember being in a cabin with like 15 zombies coming at you...

whats worse though is that it seems Capcom, instead of fixing the controls to address that increased number of enemies...just made the zombies dumb enough for it to almost work...so there are 15 enemies in your face now...but 14 of them are not doing a friggin' thing...just aimlessly wondering around bumping into other zombies...while one gets close enough while you are ready to snap your controller in half...and activates some stupid analog swinging contest just to get him off of you...

you want to learn how to do ridiculous stuff with your fingers...play a piano...you'll get more respect out of it at least...RE5's controls suck...period...

[TheExecutive]

kleptic is 100% right. Too many enemies and dumb AI to make up for broken controls. They take too many shots to die and they all wander around like idiots.

blah.

[Cartesian3D]

the only Horror-freaky thing in this game is the controls..

I said zillion times about Dead space controls.. because it ROCKs! hope to see a patch or sth , otherwise its a rental at best(Im not fan of series after RE3,I had same problem with RE4)

@GWAVE (No.3):
nice comment. bubbles.. btw i agree about co-op ,its nice but the first major thing is controls,in co-op 2 people will frustrate instead of one. they didnt copy Gears of war or Dead space controls because they thought of losing their prestige.

and about animations, its so LAST gen and un-realistic ,completely agree with you.

[cayal]

Great. Let's just play clones of other games. Who cares about innovation or something different. We just want clones of Gears or Dead Space.

[thebudgetgamer]

stopping to shoot im sure alot of people will like it its just not for me
:)

[SupaPlaya]

It had started 3 years ago when 360 landed. 3 years in we are still "Next Gen"? It's like getting stuck in 2006.

[perils]

exactly what i was gonna say....anyway what are we talking about here? oh resi 5. oh its bad?.......damn

[cayal]

"oh resi 5. oh its bad?.......damn"

No. Spoiled little b!tches are just complaining again because it is a little too hard. Poor babies want their mummy to give them their bottle instead of getting it themselves.

There is nothing wrong with RE5.

[krouse93]

all other Residient Evils were like this what are you girls complaining about i played it on PSN and i love it.

[PirateThom]

How old are the other Resident Evil games?

How much has RE changed from surival horror to action?

[BattleAxe]

I loved the game itself, but crappy controls are crappy controls.

I was never a fan of RE, but if the controls were like this in RE 4, then it had crappy controls too. If the controls were more refined then I'd definately buy this game. The co-op part of the game kicks ass.

Controls don't make a game a survival horror game, the atmosphere, lighting and art direction make a game a survival horror game.

[Crystallis]

I totally agree with everything the article said. This game feels like a step back with regards of controls rather then a step forward. Clearly a rental, what a shame.

[dgroundwater]

You must know that's BS. If you played RE4 you would know the controls are nearly the same.

[Arsenic13]

Its a developers choice whether u can walk and shoot. Its not a mandatory next gen feature.
If your a RE fan, you wont give a sh*t, we had to endure shi**y walking.

But keep complaining, its bound to get an update after launch.

[CrayzeeCarl]

Why should you not be able to walk and shoot at the same time? Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

[onomix]

Don't ruin the game for other people that enjoyed it, like me. I did not like the Killzone 2 beta, but hey. Do I post crap about Killzone 2? No. I think you people care to much about this game, seeing you are posting crap about it. If you don't like it, just leave it, there is no need to be jerk and post comments about its flaws. Every game has it own flaws. Shenmue had horrible controls, but it did not ruin the experience for me. Because it had great story, visuals, design and soundtrack.

[Draperc]

Everyone has an opinion and are free to express it. If you don't like it, then get the f*ck out. Anyone that thinks this game sucks will not keep themselves from saying so just because you disagree. If you like it, that's good, buy it and enjoy it. We're not stopping you.

[Draperc]

Both 360 fan and PS3 fans can both agree, that RE5's controls fail epically. And another thing that pissed me off was that you can't choose who you want to play with in co-op, it always randomly paired you up with someone you didn't know.
EDIT: @ Sharpshell : PS3 doesn't have cross game invites.
@ Onomix : You do realize that those people that try to silence others opinion of killzone 2 are just a bunch of fanboy retards right? Only a fool would take them seriously.

[Sharpshell]

set the co-op game to private or something, then go to you xmb and "invite" your friend, then he clicks on ur name in xmb and clicks "acept invite" and u can play togehter... works every time.

[onomix]

Even If I say some crap about Killzone 2, the people are crybabies too, and cannot accept it. I have seen people posting their opinions on Killzone 2, and they get 10+ disagrees. So why should I not defend Resident Evil 5? When you guys defend Killzone 2 when people bash it? It does not make sense.

[beavis4play]

you have every right to like/dislike any game you choose. i personally think RE5 sucks HARD for more reasons than controls, but if you're happy with it......great! and you keep going on about how you hate KZ2? i personally am going crazy waiting for it, but you certainly have the right to hate it.

bottom line......don't take things so personally on forums. everyone has a right to say what they want.......you included.

feel better?

[cayal]

"Both 360 fan and PS3 fans can both agree, that RE5's controls fail epically"

lol, just because a couple of you think so, doesn't make it true.

[Peekay]

"Instead of being immersed in the game you are worried about which button to press and the limitations of the character’s movements."

Sound like this game is too difficult to learn for some people. I thought the game was wicked. It's alot of fun once you get the moves sussed.

Did you know can you can shoot this transfer on top of one the Shanty things so it electrucutes all the Majini including the axe dude!

[dgroundwater]

The game is Japanese people! How can you guys expect quick and intuitive action-shooter controls from the culture of MGS, FF, etc?

I don't see the point of third person shooters at all if ease of use is your argument. Imagine if every Xbox shooter played like Halo, and every PC shooter played like Counter-Strike! We could all circle strafe, bunny hop, and headshot every damn zombie before they came within 30 feet of us!

Clunky and restrictive controls are inherently Japanese, and are completely necessary to deliver an experience as fun as RE4.

[BattleAxe]

Clearly you didn't play MGS 4. They changed the controls to more of a western shooter style.

[dgroundwater]

Still stiffer than American third person shooters like Gears. Not that it's a bad thing, I like RE5 a lot. But the change of control from MGS3 to 4 and RE3 to 4 is pretty comparable in scale.

[beavis4play]

because if you are, then you have no idea what you're talking about.
and are you saying that MGS4 controls are similar to RE5??!!! because you'd be even MORE wrong about that.
i do see the point you're trying to make as to japanese style vs. western style games, but RE5 looks to be a mess in a lot more ways than controls. and please stop comparing RE5 to MGS4, because MGS4 is a much better game all around.

[Darkseider]

The controls are clunky at best and compared to Dead Space well... there is no comparison. As for the AI in the demo OMG it sucked HORRIBLY. Freakin baddies stand there next to you WAITING most of the time for you to do something and THEN react after actively hunting you down? I think I will be chalking this one up as a rental. I truly hope that the review sites don't give this a pass just because it is RE.

[MGOelite]

lol its all the 360 fuktards who are complaining ffs , sad pp.

in resident evil you can NEVER run and gun, its a design choice and all the guys with playstations would know that, the control scheme was exact same in resident evil 4 and people loved it as it got away from the fixed camera angle, as soon as resident evil goes multiplat you get all these stupid sites and people (pp) saying "WAH YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN AND GUN WAH" this is what you deserve capcom, your game has been seriously ass-fuked over the past week or so cause the 360 boys arnt used to the controls, now there trying to ruin the game by turing it into gears of war or l4d

[NegativeCreep427]

I just played the demo and despite the fact that I loved Resident Evil 4, the controls seriously make me feel like breaking something. I could put up with having to wait for about 4 seconds to aim at the floor to throw a grenade or slowly turning to fire at some other a$$-hole with a chainsaw that wants to cut my arm off last gen, but in these days of Uncharted, Dead Space, and similiar other third-person shooters that evolved past that 32-bit gen control feel, RE5 feels ancient.

This is something of a huge letdown. It looks like RE5 will be taking a back seat to Dead Space.

@ Below

Well hey you know, to each his own. Its just that when I play on my Playstation 3 I like to feel that I'm actually playing my PS3, not my PS2.

[MGOelite]

well would you rather have a fixed camera angle in each area? i like that its slow aiming and moving it requires more skill to stay alive and get some kills, its good when you kill a zombie infront of you only to get grabbed from behind, then running into corner and doing a quick turn,

think in that house in RE4 when you have to defend ashley with that weird forigner guy, its feels like that and i like it

[Sabre_G]

I'm still gonna get this game since it looks awesome, but it seems kinda weird that u cant run and gun. Metal Gear Solid 4 u cud, Gears u can, why cant u here?

[cayal]

Last I checked this game was called Resident Evil. Not Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid.

[Ryangp]

I really liked this demo, i wasn't going to buy this game but now that I've played the demo I'm going to buy it.

[Sharpshell]

it had the same effect on me... interesting that others felt the opposite. For one thing i love the difficulty (compared to RE4) and the contraints on ammo (also unlike Re4)

[beavis4play]

and what constraints on ammo? there is ammo EVERYWHERE in the RE5 demo!

[Sharpshell]

there is ammo everywhere... but for me, at least i nthe first area (havent tried the second) I didn't/couldn't risk getting it all the time casue of all the zombies and all the places they were coming from. RE4 was easy cause u really didnt get snuck up on except rare ocasions but in RE5 i was constantly like oh crap.. keep moving forget the ammo, and hten i would be like CRAP no more ammo!

(this is much more true in co-op because in singleplayer Sheva collects al lthe ammo and gives it to u wheneer u run out much better than my buddy does lol

basically it was the difficulty and the fact, at least inthe first area that is wasnt like re4 where all u had to do was kill everything. In re5 fro mwhat I have played, its more lie kthe old games where you run by bad guys and only kill what is the most emidiate danger.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

I stopped reading when I saw

"At this point I enjoyed the recent Alone in the Dark demo more than the Resident Evil 5 demo (Yes that’s right I went there)."

[Sharpshell]

Although I agree with GWAVE (bubbles btw) about how the controls arn't classic, in a way I would prefer the original controls, the REAL tank controls. However for me, when you exploit the games main course, being co-op play, the controls work out well for me.

Dead space is a little different because you have to be able to move and shoot when your fighting the enemies you are i nthe enviorments u are (sometimes zero grav)

BUT I thin kthe highly contricted view is awesome for RE5 where I find myself asking my firend "are there any zombies at my back?... watch my back!"

I personally disagree with the concept some gamers adheer to where every game should utilize this imaginary "best" or "modern" control scheme. At this right every game is going to end up beign he same thing with a different skin. Considerthe controls part of the game, take it or leave it but not borken.

My advice for everyone is to use control scheme B, without "strafe" but where the right analoge stick allows for a hard turn/aim... oh and call a friend before you play

[switch-it]

Well, technically no, but..

[cervantes99]

Sure the controls are just like RE4, but RE4 was a fantastic game through and through. I too would like to walk/run and shoot at the same time, but I will still enjoy this game.

Not every game has to revolutionize its genre to be enjoyable.

Bottom line is this: If you liked RE4 you will most definitely enjoy RE5. If RE4 was not your cup-o-tea then RE5 will not be any different.

To say the game is broken is a matter of opinion. I personally liked the demo and look forward to this game and I know a million other fans will too. I've played every RE game to date and I don't want to miss this one.

[klashawnd]

The demo took me forever to download...

... and took me all of 5 seconds to delete. Controls were beyond horrible.

[DADO]

Even though the game sucks it is going to sell a lot just because of the name" Resident Evil".

[Roper316]

The current controls are meant for a slow moving survival horror game like RE used to be. But seeing that this is a bright and sunny fast moving action shooter the controls just don't match with the style of game play in RE5.

[The Judderman]

But i dare say it will sell more on 360.

[rawd]

Cuz Xbots have nothing else to play in 2009

[MGOelite]

lol both of you are right, people who can only buy like 1 game a month will go for killzone 2 because it has a real online component, i know for a fact RE5 will sell better on 360 because all the ps3 guys will still be on killzone 2

[dukadork2]

like it's gonna compensate for the fact that the game sux!
you xb!tches are the laughing stock of the games industry.
LMAO!

[Unicron]

I was disappointed in the controls simply because the series refused to evolve in light of titles like Dead Space and Gears of War1/2. It's unfortunate I feel, as the series gets further and further away from survival horror into the action genre, the controls at least should haven't kept up.

Can I enjoy it? Sure. And if you all do, I urge you to value your own opinion above others. But it amazes me that this game is getting saddled with a perfect score already from some places when it lacks any "innovation" and sticks to RE4's now arcane formula. I will still buy it, and I hope its a great co-op experience, but I won't fool myself into thinking it's Resident Evil outside of character names.

[vincentvegawchz]

I do however think that they were still trying to capture the old resident evil Scene, but it was a mistake, yes Resident evil was cool for those who liked it but there is a completely different audience today than there was when RE4 was released, the cheap prices of the xbox and the high computing features of the Ps3 has brought many new people into games, and this game is not what it should be to impress any of those who have never played RE series, i have never liked resident evil for the slow controls and EXTREMELY SLOW game play, thats why i was dissapointed with this, i thought it was getting a make over, and im not just talking about graphics, i downloaded this Demo yesterday, as soon as I saw the PS Blog post, and then played about 2-3 minutes until i found myself in awkward situations where it was no longer a fun game... IMO this game sucks BAD.

[Crystallis]

I personally cant stand it when its a chore to play a game with broken controls. There are just so many other great titles with great controls and comparing those controls to RE5 controls is like night and day.

It is very hard to adjust to totally different and frustrating controls when other titles have excellent controls and character movement.

The controls in this game just frustrate the hell out of me.

[Raoh]

it isnt even last gen

[NIN64]

They should change the name of this site to N4W (News4Whiners)

[beavis4play]

judging buy your comment........you'd fit right in with the new site. (just kidding)

[NIN64]

I had to momentarily stoop to the level. It just seems like lately there have been so many posts for various topics consisting mainly of people complaining about every little thing. There was a time and a place back in the day where difficult controls were considered a challenge. It seems like video games are becoming easier every gen, and when a developer sticks to their roots and caters to the fan base new comers piss and moan to no end. It is embarrassing to people who have been playing difficult games for more than 20 years.

[willie32]

controls are horrible anyway you slice it.

[Foxgod]

Lol at people complaining at resident evil for being resident evil.
Stupid noobs complaining at a franchise with history.

The controls have been like this since resident evil 1, only difference now is the camera view.
If you cant stand it go play shooters instead, because resident evil aint no shooter.

Its survival horror, and in survival horror you aint allowed to spew rains of bullets at the click of a button.

[kozsg]

RE4 controls were designed for the Gamecube controller (which had a big A button for the action sequences).When they port it to ps2 the controls weren't as good as the Gamecube version(If anyone have played RE4 on Gamecube will understand what i'm saying).Thats why RE 5 controls (which are the same with RE4) won't work well because of the ps3 and the xbox 360 gamepads.(sorry for my bad english)

Also the AI in this game sucks big time.Zombies are running towards you and when they are 1m away from you,the stop,walk very slowly and actually wait for you to shoot them that's hilarius!

RE4 was a masterpiece.I enjoyed every minute i played it on Gamecube.

[Likewhoa]

I just recently stumbled upon the amazing game that is Residen Evil 4 a few weeks ago and rented it for the Wii. I beat it and I've never felt more satisfied with a game. Downloaded the RE5 demo for the PS3 and I have no doubt that I'm going to play the full game and enjoy it greatly.

If you didn't enjoy Resident Evil 4 or maybe didn't even play it then chances are you will not like this game. /sadface

[DJ]

I hope reviewers have the proper sense to call this game out on its horrible controls and game design.

[Foxgod]

Why dont you play the past resident evils before you talk.
There aint no unity in this topic.

Only whiners that never played resident evil before, and people that like the controls because they have been playing resident evil since the psx.

[villevalorox]

I really do not understand. Please pm me telling me your guys reasons for saying its not next-gen? And please tell me if you played re4. I loved re4 so much and i love the way re5 plays and all.

[Foxgod]

Most of these tards are 13 or 14, and never experienced the psx days,. so they dont understand the controls are supposed to be like this.
They expected they could go killzowning on the zombies.

[harshtruth]

Its like RE4 but not as playable... whats new in this game, the girl?... she gets in the way... i love the RE series but they drop a turd once in a while(RE3...turd)...the way RE zero did the two character thing played way better than the RE5 demo.... What they should have done for RE5 is:

1. took the RE code veronica shell(i picked it because it didnt use pre-rendered paste on environments and had full 3rd person view)
2. upped the graphics
3. upped the physics
4. cut out the loading stairs and doors
5. allow shooting while walking/running or at least walking

[farhsa2008]

the author is a retard, what does he want? The game to hold your hand the whole way through, this is RE and it is supposed to feel challenging and tense, the controls are like that for a reason, get used to it fools.

By the way this game is not for old school RE fans, its for people who enjoyed RE4.

[Godmars290]

Is it just me, or are PS3 users reacting more strongly to the demo than 360 users, who got it a week early?

Have to wonder if there's not more than a bit fanboy resentment goin on here.

And BTW: I only own a PS3. Got turned off RE5 when I heard about co-op.

[Foxgod]

It isnt just you, thats why a lot of people generally think that ps3 fanboys are the worst.

[beavis4play]

i have a ps3. speaking only for myself: i'm disappointed with capcom getting away from "survival horror".
now that i've played the demo - controls are frustrating. the combat seems like it's in slow-motion. i was very surprised at how jumbled and unimaginative the enviroments were. stairs and ladders littered throughout. sure that would make some sense in a multiplayer level, but not in the campaign. i wasn't really thrilled with the decision of accessing inventory in real-time. after 4 previous RE games where it wasn't that way, it'd take some getting used. to. i have more issues, but those are a few. so, no.......didn't bother me at all to wait for demo. heck, i didn't care if it would have been a month after the 360 got it. it's not a big deal.

and don't listen to foxgod. that dude is one of the BIGGEST, HARDCORE microsoft fanboys on the site.

[Godmars290]

360 owners could just be blind to the problems. Don't care because they can say "WE GOT - SO EAT IT SONY FANBOYS!" Or since they didn't even bother with the PS2 or PS1, the NGC, aren't all that familiar with the play mechanics.

I haven't played the series since 3, and don't think its *that* bad.

I do agree that its not survival horror. But then the controls don't make it action horror.

[ravenl0rd]

Listen, Resident Evil 5 is not broken. Saying so just proves your idiocy. The game plays exactly how it is intended. How is that broken? Also, it is funny how many people are going crazy over the controls when these are the same controls that RE4 had when it won many Game of the Year awards three or four years ago. That isn't that far back. Also, I'm tired of hearing people complain that the game doesn't have "Gears of War" controls. Why do we want every game to play like Gears of War?

[7h3ultim8p00]

To all the people complaining about controls.

Did you change the controls in the options menu?

Control Style C works best imo. You can move around with the left thumbstick and straf with the right thumbstick. You Swing your knife by holding the left trigger and you shoot with the right trigger.

[galgor]

It would be resident evil if you could run & gun. RE is meant to be survival/horror, not all out action. MGS westernised itself to help its sales due to it needing to be a big console seller for Sony. However people complained about it because they didn't know what kind of game they were buying; not being prepared for the cutscenes. The other complaints were about how slow the online mode was [let's not bother mentioning the lack of stable servers]. But thtat's what MGS is, it's about being tactical & stealthy, not running and gunning.

The thing is though MGS & RE offer a much more immersive experience in their games. It's not "run shoot die, run shoot die" for hours unend. RE brings feelings of vulnerability & fear with a good story, and MGS gives you an amazing story with the possibility to play how you want.

[onomix]

The game is 30+ hours long, has nice graphics, the bosses look cool, and I think the story will be good too. I found the game to be fun, and the controls don't bother me at all. I have mastered them after playing a while.

How does not being able to shoot while moving defeat the purpose of the game if you've NEVER been able to do that in the series?

RE 4 took the game from a slow moving shooter with slow moving enemies into a more quick, violent game, and I liked that.

[sealion88]

i dunno why people are complaining about the controls. RE series never had good control to start with.

[onomix]

I think some of the things the people complain about were said just for the sake of complaining. I don't know what is going on here. People are not liking the game, just because you can't run and shoot at the same time? That is the lamest excuse.

It is like saying: ''MGS4 sucks because you can't watch porn magazines while walking or running, duuuuuuuuuhhhhh''

[ultimolu]

The demo was okay but like I said...I also had a funny feeling about the controls and it didn't scare me as much as the original Resident Evils did.

[Obama]

yeah I agree, that the control is bad and it doesn't have the atmosphere of RE4 imo.

[Lord Xire]

RE5 will be the most sold, best rated, action packed game this entire first half of 09.

The story will keep me interested enough. MGS4's garbo gameplay didn't stop it from being epic.

If you want to pass it up because you FAIL at learning how to use a controller then so be it.

EDIT: Just tried the PsN version....

Other advice...for the Ps3 users out there the Dual Shock 3 absolutely sucks for this game.

Slippery Convex triggers and horrid ultra sensitive analog sticks make aiming a goddamn pain the ass...

I can see why we have so many sourpusses.

I advise any Ps3 owner to purchase a Nyko Zero it improves skill by 200%.

[beavis4play]

i guess YOU don't know as much about using a controller as you think.

[Lord Xire]

Maybe you.

Splinter Cell series does what MGS should have done with controlling a long time ago.

[harshtruth]

you just compared splinter cell to mgs .... they should take away your gamercard lol... bill gates wouldn't even make that kind of statement about mgs

[Superduper09]

Playing with Dual Shock 3 does not suck in this game.

[beavis4play]

you were the one who talked like you were the controller "expert". and then talked about MGS4 game being "garbage". i merely stated that perhaps MGS4 wasn't garbage and the problem lied with your gaming/ game controller skills. your response was to open up a different topic on splintercell and how it compares with MGS4?
so, even though i'm not sure why your response changes the subject, i'll answer it.
if splinter cell series is soooooooooo perfect - then why is "conviction" being totally revamped? and curious the devs decided to do this just after MGS4 was released.

anyway, try to think your responses through a little more....at least to maintain some cohesiveness in what we were initially discussing.

[Lord Xire]

Just got back from work.

And beavis you jumped so far off the gun I can't even begin to care WTF your even talking about.

Peace.

[poeo]

sh*t.. this is getting pretty bad, i am seriously starting to feel sorry for Capcom! seems like their most important game in a long while is getting a lot of hate they (Capcom) werent prepared for. if they are smart they should be getting ready to either release a huge game-altering patch post-release, or DELAY the game altogether due to bad reactions from so many gamers. it's just not getting the love it was supposed to get, that's for sure. Capcom must be feeling pretty hesitant by now.

i personally dont quite know where i stand in this, mixed feelings about the demo... though i'm most likely getting it no matter what, because i've been waiting for it for such a long time. but like many others have said, coming from Dead Space controls to this was a bit of a shock. AND i think Dead Space has been slightly overrated, i'm not saying it was the best survival horror ever, just that the controls were very satisfying, and they PROVED a survival horror game doesnt need cumbersome controls to be effective in making the player feel vulnerable.

[XPC HARDonE]

moving and shooting
walking and aiming

doing two things at the same time, maybe next console generation

[Socomer 1979]

For me RES5 is the continuation of RES4 and i Loved RES4.
i dont have a problem chalking up resident evil 5 as a classic.
Its old school meets new school and i dont ever remember playing a resident evil game that had great controls.

Its definatly on purpose, just like siren, its about pacing and adding tension to the situation. Sorry guys but it would have been great to have controls like deadspace, gears of war and dark sector or mgs4 but it wouldnt be resident evil.

[narked]

if u guys whine that u want res to be an action game congrats, cause res
became action, not horror.

when have u ever played res an walked while shooting? that is res evil.

u dont shoot while u run, that is action. and res already is pretty much more action since the 4th installment.

hope u stop whining cause capcom might listen to u and make it run and gun.

and stop this last gen controls vs next gen controls !! its the res evil control scheme, its not suposed to change if u wanted a different control scheme then tell capcom to make an action shooter not res.

[Nodoze]

I think the simple fact that more than half of the responses here point to horrid control issues proves there is most definitely a problem. This is not some isolated I hate RE5 rant, it is a real, and troubling issue.
I LOVED and I mean LOVED RE4. I played through the game multiple times, worked to achieve all of the statues, simply put I thought it was the best RE by far. I went in with the same hope to RE5, and sadly things have changed...and for the worse I might add.

I loaded the demo and was initially appalled by what I saw and felt.

Animations that are straight lifted from RE4, hordes or identical (saddam) look alikes all attacking me at the same time, clipping issues (saddams passing straight through WALLS), no environment interaction (aside from shooting doors, watermelons, and fuel), no visible damage at all to the 'zombies' (aside from head shots), a laser sight that gets lost in the enviro because it is now DAY TIME (horrid horrid idea), a counterpart that constantly gets in my way, needs help every two seconds, takes my ammo, and requires me to manage my inventory while being attacked (If I hear here say she owes me one again I am going to shoot myself not the damn saddam look alikes), a useless machete (aside from slicing barrels), a main character that is built like the hulk but cannot use his super punch unless prompted by a quicktime event, a camera angle that places Chris entirely too close to the screen, the list goes on and on....

It appears to me that the director of this game did LITTLE if anything to improve on RE4. In fact he did just the opposite, he ruined the series by trying to introduce a feature to attract 'western gamers'...coop. If Capcom were smart they would delay the release, rework the single player to EXCLUDE that stupid b1tch of a counterpart and let me play through on my own. They should also rent Dead Space to see what TRUE survival horror is supposed to be in 2009.

I tried to like this game, and I do mean it...I really really tried. It is a broken abomination to a series that holds a near and dear place in not only my gaming library but also my heart. RE0, RE1, RE4 all great treasures. I am sad to say this is the first version that will not be gracing my shelf, or my console.

This title went from a pre-order to a cancellation. To pour even more salt into an open wound...I was getting it for free (gift certs).

[xg-ei8ht]

Resident Evil PSX was by far the best imo.

Only thing which is annoying, opening up you inventory, just to add ammo to the gun.

It's old style and no need for it anymore.

Needs more the horror route, with better controls, They've tried to get more tps,fps players into the game.

I'll still play the full game, maybe rental, depends.

[Coolmanrico]

People complaining about the controls. I didn't even read the article because I already knows what it say. Moaning and groaning about not liking the controls.

*I wonder, did the people in japan moan as much when they got the demo last year.

[xionpunk]

I think RE is its own kind of game, so I really don't have a problem with the controls. They fit, and it's not like they were poorly designed... people have just gotten used to Gears style shooting. Thats not what RE is about. Anyways, the demo was pretty good IMO. Co-op is pretty cool.

Edit: I do think that the devs may have stuck extremely close to what they thought made RE4 a success, but I have to play more to see if that's a good thing or not.

[andron]

People are whining because they seem to want one unified control scheme for all games or something.

If they encounter anything different or something that takes a few minutes getting used to it's game over. Sad for them...

[narked]

you mate are right 1 bubble for u

[interrergator]

would u all do me a favor for the people who has problems with the controls: STFU CONTROLS ARE FINE I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT U BUNCH OF BABYS IDFC IF I GET DISAGREES BUT U GUYS ARE RIDICULOUS

[zanthox]

WTF, do you fools want every game to be the same and play the same? try something different for a change. compare Bioshock and CoD4, they are fun because of the differences.
Just try changing the control settings. Besides this is not GoW, this is more realistic in the sense that running and shooting is A WASTE OF BULLETS BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HIT ANYTHING. your aim will be so bad you wont even hit the wall, they will melt into pure suck. thus you take a proper stance before firing. I wouldn't mind a slow walk but whatever.
Most of the whiners clearly never played any other RE game, and that's fine. Go ahead and say the same thing that EVERYONE who hasn't like ANY OTHER RE game has said EVERY TIME one of them is released. You don't like it, fine, but stop whining it isn't like everything else, at least it is something different.

Sure they killed off the 'horror' part of RE with RE4 and now with combining the presence of another person (similar to how RE:0 did) RE5 is making horror bite the curb for good with coop. It really sucks but really great and fun gameplay is coming out of it if you are willing to play something besides a run and gun. It isn't scary anymore but it is very intense. The demo does seem to hit at somewhat limited ammo and health, sorta. you are coop but pretty dependent on each other, so I'd say RE is now an Intense Survival Game.

[almanay]

N4G is broken ... for not having NEWS FOR GAMERS

[2FootYard]

Dead Space ruined this game for me.

[maverick1191]

the demo is awful but if your a graphics whore this is your game of the year as of now stunning game graphically shocking gameplay it will only sell millions because of its name i mean look at gta4 its crap but its sold like hot cakes KZ2 is your best bet lol

[maverick1191]

killzone2flop dont worry alot of ps3 gamers wont buy this because we know when a broken game hits you we'll go play KZ2 whilst you get chatted up by pedophiles most people will just buy the game because of the name its shocking worst move capcom to do was release a demo

the demo is awful but if your a graphics whore this is your game of the year as of now stunning game graphically shocking gameplay i will only sell millions because of its millions i mean look at gta4 its crap but its sold like hot cakes KZ2 is your best bet lol

[Jandre02]

This game absolutely blows. Am I doing this wrong, or can you really not move when you are shooting?

[BMS84]

The first Resident Evil on the ps is a classic , Old mansion , great music,action and than some quite moments,great pre-rendered graphics, the atmosphere, the first survival horror imo.

RE2 was also good but not as good as the second part

RE3 didn't play

Resident Evil:Code Veronica is my second favourite , great story , not to much action going on at one time,probably the2nd best RE game..

RE4 was refreshing but a little much going on (for a survival horror) , but still a good 3 rd place ,

And when i played RE5 i didn't got that feeling that i had with all the other series... IMO the controls in part 4 were better , it's a polished, less hot version of RE4, it 's like a mix between a 3th person action/adv game and The House of Dead..

The graphics are average for a blockbuster..
The sound isn't good either
The spooky atmosphere that the other parts had is gone
And the controls suck.. Chris is moving like he is 300 ponds, Sheeva is all the time in the way... 2 much enemies... for a action/adventure/Survival-horr or game..

If i had to give the games a score

Resident Evil 9.5
Resident Evil 2 9.0
Resident Evil 3 did not play
Resident Evil Code Veronica 9.4
RE4 between 9 and a 9.5
And RE 5 (the 2 levels) 8

[2FootYard]

Maverick I disagreed with because I actually really like GTA IV. Its no San Andrea but I think its pretty damn cool.

[kozsg]

The best resident evil game is REmake (Resident Evil remake) on the Gamecube.It was released in 2001.Original story with some extras (Lisa Trevor),excellent atmosphere and still the graphics don't look dated.

Just see http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[godkiller]

To me resi4 on wii,was sooo good useing the stick to shoot and numbchucker to move.finished it on all settings.downloaded demo,and finished it,helicopter blowing gate up ect.
I hate it,reasons couple,one i like these sort of games creepy,i just got platinum trophy for dead space,and im sorry to say being mega resi fan"i even got the film on blueray lol".dead space has set the bar,and im afraid capcom havent delivered.i was being attacked all over and just sat there pressing circle while the big tit bimbo healed me.SCARY?? lol canceled resi5,getting yakusa 3 on import"what gta4 should have been".

"better to burn out,than fade away".
ps is there gona be dead space 2?

[kozsg]

yeah,
it's already on the works.

[etownone]

you finished the demo?

I keep playing it with friends but we still can't finish the demo.
We only try it like once or twice a night and then get sick of the controls and quit.

I wish they could have made the controls like Dead Space

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Dead Space didn't set any bar. It's a different type of game. You can't compare Gears of War and Uncharted. They're entirely different.

Dead Space is great for what it is...repetitive...but great. Resident Evil is a storyline-driven adrenaline rush. It's freakin' awesome!

[etownone]

Dead Space and Re5 are same type of game. survival horror TPS.

And if Re4 (one of my fav games of all time) can make a huge jump as far as controls compared to the previous RE games, then why couldn't Re5?

No matter how you want to look at it, if you did play Dead Space, you just can't help but wish that Re5 had the same controls.

[Z501]

with last gen horror game controls.
This control scheme worked 4 years ago. But, controls have evolved since.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Shut up and go back to Gears of War, people.

Let those that have the ABILITY to play Resident Evil do so...

[poeo]

get off your high horse.. you think some of us who complain dont have the ABILITY? gimme a break.

i loved the controls in RE4, i had no complaints. but now, years later, similar control schemes just dont feel as satisfying anymore. simple as that. has nothing to do with skills or "ability".

[2FootYard]

I thought the Dead Space team was working on Dante's Inferno.

[Kadajvs]

Wow alot of you guys are totally missing the whole point of this article. It's not saying it's not a good game it's just the same game as all the other resident evils especially RE4..just with better graphics. I've played every RE and to this day RE:CV is still my favorite one. RE5 doesnt do anything different in terms of "Next-Gen" like alot of games are doing besides just improving graphics and storyline. the gameplay of this game is the same..it's slow and just like all the other RE..stupid controls and all true RE fans know that. The story and kickass zombies kept us playing and...so we did. so get your panties all in a bunch all you want as a true RE fan there is nothing next-gen in RE5 besides graphics.

[Myth]

I'm a bit confused. Your all saying that the control scheme is messed up. Isn't the control scheme like all the other RE games? Did they change it or something? I'm asking because i havn't played it. But if it's the same as all the other RE games I'm not sure what people are complaining about because i would think they would be used to it by now.

[ACEMANWISE]

I'm sorry but this has been a problem since PC gaming started back in the early 90's. They never solved the problem and online gaming had 15+ years to do it. This is just one of many prices we pay for the illusion of "convienance". It will only get worse.

[godkiller]

^^^^^^^^^^^^ finished resi5 demo 15 mins,finished all resi games on all settings.gears finished one on insane,didnt bother with 2.sameish game.looking at alot sites,resi5 is broken,alot diehard fans like me are disapointed,as i said even got the blueray film.
Stop being in denial dead space is the better game,if you want play resi5 with some big tited dumb bimbo THE WHOLE GAME!! and you say your resi fan???please dont make me laugh.

[OhMyGandhi]

about time some publication spoke the truth.
the demo infuriated me.
Hence, it being savagely deleted from my hard drive.
I think I can still hear it's screams from cyberspace.

[Thoreau]

will be a great game, they just need to fix the controls

[etownone]

we can only hope that this outbreak of the majority of people complaining about the controls will push the developers to at least give the option to change the controls so it can play like Dead Space

[ThatDud3]

I played KZ2 and the whole time I kept wondering why I couldn't fly.
The last Mario game I played was terriable, why dosen't Mario have a gun already? It's 2009!
Get the point?

[FadeToBlack]

The controls in RE5 are total dated garbage. It is so cumbersome to actually melee attack someone with the knife that it will get you hit or killed 99% of the time. Also why cant you move while shooting? If people want vintage controls from the past so be it, but at least give people who want a more modern control system the option to select for themselves within the game. I really like the game itself for its concept, story and brilliant graphics but the dated stiff combersome controls kill it for me. unless there is an option in the retail version for better controls I will not be buying and will be very disappointed.

[divideby0]

I am a RE fan..This was on my must buy list...After playing the demo...maybe a rental and I aint even gonna run out and rent it...
Very disappointing

[enviable27]

Is it true this game will have an option for gears like controls? Did I miss something here?

[bigjclassic]

and RE is for the hardcore. DS was too easy, the enemies didnt have a
chance against staffing and shooting. RE5 is fine the way it is, it RE4 with more baddies coming at you.

RE5, RE4 and Dead Space are in the "Action Horror" category.

[pcz]

i never imagined that resident evil 5 would be met with such disappointment.

[pacowles]

Survival horror controls don't have to be frustrating to preserve the experience. For example (I won't use Dead Space, although it had fantastic controls), even the PSN game Siren: Blood Curse had better controls than RE5 and that's sad coming from a long-time RE fan. Also, doesn't co-op undermine the basic notions of the survival horror experience (i.e. the sense of being alone and in danger)? How worried about survival can you be when you have a partner to cover you and heal you? It just doesn't have that feeling of panic and isolation that the early RE titles perfected. I loved RE4, but I just can't get into this game...hopefully Capcom makes some tweaks before the official release.

[Mikey Mike]

the controls are not the prob, you cannot see crap on the left side of the screen. Chris, I mean the Incredible Hulk, blocks your vision. Its like riding in the back seat of a car behind the driver and not seeing the road. Playing a game blindsided by shoulders is not cool.

[Shane Kim]

In conclusion, this game sucks! (IMO, and this is coming from a RE 1-3 "fan").

[Mizz_mai]

i second that motion but its not gonna stop people buying it

[Genki]

it's obvious just by the comments who hasn't touched firearms beyond the digital world.

If some of you had any inclination of how difficult and precise it is to fire accurately while simply standing still, you might then be able to reason with this. Let me meet someone who can run backwards, then jump and score a headshot on a MOVING person and maybe we can talk about this nonsense.

[godkiller]

finished all resi games,finished dead space platinum trophy,dead space was harder.know what else is missing from resi 5?ATMOSPHERE,maybe looking at bigtit adds atmosphere lol.

[Mikey Mike]

agree the game does not feel like a old school RE game. Now about theboobies...na the Hulk would block those to! ;)

[DELETE]

that's all I got from reading most comments. This is a great demo and there is nothing wrong with the controls. I already got used to them and I have been playing the demo nonstop. It's good practice for when the whole awesome game releases. You want dead space controls, GO PLAY DEAD SPACE.

[OGharryjoysticks]

They will say "you obviously haven't played or loved RE games in the past" and "I'm so happy I could have the same controls from RE4 as a starting point". End result is the controls suck. Sure, it worked for RE4 because the Gamecube controller (even though it has 2 joysticks) was really only meant to be controlled by the left main joystick, not the little bitty yellow second one on the right. But since both the 360 and PS3 have 2 large functional joysticks it should have used them both to move and shoot.

[akumous]

Instead your meatballs debating of which version is better you guys failed to criticized how flawed the game is. Capcom, please revamp the controls and the AI and take away Sheva from the single player.

[andy1664]

As a new gamer (may last year) i picked up a ps2 with re4 and loved every minute of it, still play it now. This game influenced me to pick up a next gen console. Playing the demo felt unbalanced, slow movement & controls i could deal with but with running ahead of the pack and trying to turn to fire as in re4, i had that useless ammo wasting ashley imitator needing help again. I dont always have the option of playing online due to little un needing to be put to bed or i want to have a ciggy and get a beer or cheak something on my pc, but i feel this was designed with coop in mind with a screw you for the single player. Having capcom go on about the brilliant ai is a joke as i swear she has shot at walls on more than once. After doing the snipping bit i had to go into the building she left to pick up the items she ignored also i gave her two times the amount of ammo i had and she still ran out. Maybe she got hit in the head by the axe guy and left retarded. I hate having to babysit other characters as this ruins the game (for single player offline ).I feel that coop should be like the single player game but with 2 charactors and 30% more enemys it should not ruin the single player game. As my all time fav games have been re4 & dmc 1,3 & 4 so this is not capcom hate. The single player has ruined this due to dumb ai.

sorry for the rant if i have been out of order on my first ng4 post please tell me why rather than insult me and for any spelling mistakes ect sorry ive been on the stella

hello to all gamers

[godkiller]

Sort out controls,get rid off bigtit,make it scaryish,not like farcry2 with zombies.add some atmosphere.
And i think all this is a good thing,capcom will go mmm ,crap the controls are crap,change em,whose idea it is to have bigtit in it fire the nerd or get him a gf.AND STOP PLAYING FARCRY2..

Peace all this is good ,becuase if your real fan hopeful capcom will listen and sort the mess out,i soo want play resi5 ,just not this mess.
#ps see you all in the zone.

pss sorry for english,too busy haveing stuff done to me in the bike shed.

[360_Rules]

All the Sony dumb droids are saying this because it's out on the 360 too! Hahahahhahahaha. Are they going to make an excuse for FFXIII too? Hahahhahahhahaa a demo isn't the full game and the controls are fine for RE4 but now they are not. Shut up fanboys.

[lost2]

shut up u dumb xbot
ill destroy your @ss
moron!
btw u suck

[zag]

I have a feeling that FF13 won't sell much on 360 anyway as it's not halo.

[andy1664]

at the on disagree i have already got after 5 mins, why not tell me why you disagree.

can anyone tell me how this bubble system works?

thanks

[Darkshader]

I stop by at gamestop yesterday to purchased Fall Out 3. I asked the young clerk why their is no KZ2 advertisement because all i saw was RE5 posters and Halo Wars empty box all around. He told me that they do have the KZ2 posters before but they took it down. I didn't ask why they took it down. During my conversation with him, i found out that he is a XBOX fanboy and don't own a PS3. His original XBOX 360 system got RROD way before the 3 year warrant came out, so he trade his system including three XBOX 360 games just to get a new XBOX 360. Anyway, to cut the story short i asked the gamestop kid if he plans to purchase a KZ2 as he already saw the KZ2 footage thru various website. His answer was "i think RE5 is better than KZ2". LOL!

Now after downloading the RE5 last night. Sadly RE5 doesn't stand a chance against KZ2. I'm a avid RE5 fan, but due to control issue i will wait for CAPCOM to address this issue and purchase the game on a discount price. Heck! Even RE4 control is way better than RE5...very dissappointing.

[Superduper09]

Isn't type A basically the RE4 control?

[DARK WITNESS]

poll hit agree if you are buying this. hit disagree if you are not buying this;

personally i am not buying it. it seems some people just don't like progress, if it was any other game everyone would be calling last gen, but suddenly moving like a retard is part of the game play and we should just accept it.

No i don't want it to play like gears of war and nobody is saying it has to. dead space didn't play like gears and managed to be scary with out making you feel like a cripple. if EA could do that, then capcom better sort it out.

[Myth]

I love that they added co-op in this game. The game was never scary to begin with so adding her was just a bonus.

[andy1664]

Coop should be there to make the game better, so that you and a friend can enjoy it ,not screw it up for single players, if the ai was more intelligent it would probably be ok. I would imagine its a lot better in coop with another person but single players shouldn't be left out

[Huntmaster17]

so much b****ing around here.. if you don't like it grab Maya and make your own damn RE game.

[squablo]

Wow. Thats all I can say really! Wow!
First of all, its like this:

Why cant I run and shoot? Because this is Resident Evil, and not
Devil May Cry.

Why cant I walk backward and shoot? Because this is Resident Evil, and not Devil May Cry.

Is Chris Special Forces? Dont know what he is up to now, but he used to be a member of STARS, which was like a special forces unit.

Look guys, go play something else if the controls bother you that much. The game, and its enemies behavior, are based on how the player is controled. Do you really think it would be as suspensful if you were just running around, doing backflips, and head jumping over people?

This is not Left 4 Dead. Its not Dead Rising. Its not Dead Space. Its not Silent Hill, its mother f'ing Resident Evil! This game is supposed to have you freaking out and in a panic mode.

If you guys would take the time to learn the controls, they are just fine. Use the quick turn the right way, and you can move around pretty quickly.

Its not a shooter, its not supposed to be a shooter, its not supposed to be a fast paced game. I remember the old Resident Evil games. Everyone complained about those controls as well. I remember running around freaking out because I had 6 bullets, and that was it. Not even enough ammo in the game to kill everything.

Just look at it as a differnt kind of painting. Not all paintings are the same. Not all games need to be played the same way. Its a character trait of Resident Evil. They want to stop you when you shoot so those enemies can get nice and close to your face, you then freak out.

There is no safe distance in a game when enemies always advance toward you, and you have to stop to take the shot. I like this about it, and it makes it so its not just another shooter.

[gnothe1]

I'm buying it day 1. at first I didnt like the controls but after about 4-5 play throughs(graphics forced me to play it) I got use to the control an everything started feeling good!!

[blakstarz]

I have to agree that it is stupid that you can run and shoot and step back and shoot......the fact that you have to stand still to shoot is going to make this game a pain to play....I'm definitely passing on it.

[Sty]

RE Gameplay, what did you guys aspect?? RE 4 was a blast, stick what works, getting this game for my PS3 :D

[StephanieBBB]

An interview team would go to the developers of RE5 and sit them down infront of this game and ask them are you happy with how this game turned out? Does it feel like a real RE game when you play it? They would probably bust out laughing.

[Iceman100]

The game has been like that from the beginning, and im sure people haven't been playing it for those reasons alone.

[pcz]

You should have all the abilities that a human has. a human can walk and shoot at the same time, run and shoot and sure as hell can walk backwards and shoot simultaneously.

to call the lack of those abilities a 'gameplay mechanic' is absurd. a game having crap controls doesn't make it suspenseful, it just makes it a game with crap controls.

they should have been more ambitious.

[NeoMagus]

Didn't like RE4, and don't like this one either... camera needs some work Capcom

[aiphanes]

Too bad since I had high hopes for RE5...well at least we have Infamous the Killzone 2 to hold us over till RE6...

[Superduper09]

The first time I played the demo, I had to admit that I was struggling to find the controls that suit me. I tried type A, B, C and D. But after 2 or 3 tries, I found type D to be the most suited control type for me. After that, I simply had forgotten the problem with the controls and had a lot of fun playing the demo with other PS3 players. In fact, I completed the demo 3x with a partner. It was fun fighting the chainsaw dude with a partner. I don't mind not being able to run and gun or roll for that matter.

Sure using left analog + x to run is a bit silly, why not just use left analog to run, Capcom?. Also the reload button is usually square in most shooting games, why makes it more complicated with having to press L1 + X just to reload :/.

That were my only complaints with regard to the controls in this game.
I hope they make the controls a bit more simplified in the final version.

As far as the graphics concern, it looks awesome even though many things in the game are a bit too static except for the trees/plant of
course.

[LastDance]

Errrrmmmm....Im not sure about any1 else...but i would be more concern on the friendly AI than controls... Seriously what is she doing that whole time in the video down the bottom.

[Chubear]

I'd think they'd have taken a page from Valves HL2 and made sure the partner AI was like that of Alex. Bottom line, the game felt like a mess to me with only the co-op being a redeeming factor but not a $60 redeem factor though... not even a $40 one :X

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Can we stop using the term 'next-gen' for this generation of hardware? It's been around long enough now to be classed as 'current-gen'.

[Chubear]

I really thought EVERYONE would jump on the game's nut sack blindly just because of past games and mainly RE4. I hope people stay true to their beliefs and not suddenly do a 180 and claim it to be the second coming just because editorial reviewers slap it crazy with 9+ ratings.

[TheExecutive]

The AI is retarded
The controls are too archiac for that many zombies
The limited ammo plus 3 shots to the face to kill a zombie
The lack of any "horror" in the game
The f*cking chick steals all my plants

I mean seriously? These controls worked when it was a survival horror game. It is now a huge zombie fest which pronounce the terrible controls.

[PoopsMagee]

agreed,

I played 4 and loved it.

It's in top 5 games of all time

but this.... the controls are just... clumsy

it might be worth a rental

[Creep]

my only complaint with R5 is the stupid ai which is sheeva, she is so stupid why ruined the game by adding a stupid bot next to me residentl evil series is all about single player and not co-op not wiht these controls anyways

[Obama]

I am not sure how u can play the game in single player with a bot that dumb, especially when there are chainsaw bosses that can kill you in 2 hits.

[ELite_Ghost]

i think they focused too much on graphics rather than gameplay...

[Rmagnus]

The controls took alittle while to get used to but was alrite but I really dislike the fact that RE series stopped trying to be scary....

[air1]

i liked the demo, but you cant move at all?! still?!

simple side stepping and "walking" backwards while shooting would of been great. doesnt have to be a run and gun,walk and gun would of made this game the greatest re..

capcom please let me walk and shoot..

[gersh]

But I certainly will.

[badkolo]

I have a feeling ever since this game went multi and on the 360 the hate is more noticeable, if it was a ps3 exclusive then there wouldnt be this much hate

[Ghyst]

demo sucked

[djslapdash]

Capcom should have thrown money at, and begged Shinji Mikami to develop this game. He would have evolved the control designs from RE4 to RE5 way better than this. Like he did with RE3 to RE4

[equax]

Is the demo suppose to draw out conclusions? Or the full game?

[blakstarz]

I have to agree that it is stupid that you can run and shoot and step back and shoot......the fact that you have to stand still to shoot is going to make this game a pain to play....I'm definitely passing on it.

[mastemikegee]

RE4 and RE5 are still Resident Evil games. the difference is the threat. how to make it next-gen? make it 3rd-person-survival-horror? zombies were slow therefore there was no need for precise aiming i.e. over-the-shoulder-aiming. Parasite infected people are still capable of running, handling weapons, communicating amongst themselves... therefore harder to kill, therefore the need for over-the-shoulder-aiming, and so it became a 3rd-person-survival-horror. it's NOT a 3rd-person-shooter so it's NOT gonna be a run-and-gunner. and STOP comparing it to Dead Space. I loved Dead Space, enjoyed every bit of it and yet i can still find a few f**k-ups in it. Dead Space is a new IP and so they can make it anyway they want. Resident Evil isn't, so they have to keep it as close as possible to the original. yes it doesn't feel the same anymore and yet they did that for you guys. next-gen meant making it more 3-dimensional which in turn meant changing the threat. would u of rather have them keep the zombies? maybe they ran out of ideas of how to keep it entertaining with zombies. make a 3rd-person-survival-horror with zombies.... Left 4 Dead??? that's not even the same feel as Resident Evil! the zombies are fast unlike Resident Evil zombies. u have to consider everything before u judge something.

what games have you made?

[bdup46]

title explains all

[jams_shop]

I play the demo on both xbox and ps3 and the controls suck for both

[djroberts]

Not even worth renting. The controls are total frustration. They should fire whoever came up with that idea.

[Wolf873]

the controls are awkward for this generation of gaming. I know previous RE didn't play like this, but as others have said, things have changed and there is no point in keeping the original control scheme. It makes no sense to keep the control scheme the same as previous REs just for sake of consistency, if they wanted that, why the heck they turned RE into action oriented game than a HORROR game which it started out to be in the first place? It's no surprise the original creator of RE refused to play this one. I'd say rather than having the character to stop and shoot to raise the tension, they could have slowed the pace of the character while keeping the "tension" factor almost intact. Also, time to time there were these camera zoom-in-outs that bothered me in tense action moments, so there's another let down. But rest of the game is promising still, if they get these issues fixed than its an easy purchase.

[willie32]

a must buy for me too. Unless they fix (update to next gen) the controls, it is not even a rental. After five minutes in the demo, I had to stop or risk me breaking a controller off my wall. The game was too frustrating. I think Lair might have controlled a little better.

[Ghyst]

They pretty much ruined everything resident was, if this gets higher than 8.5. it's a tragedy for game reviews, lol

[Ghyst]

It was rather boring, and it's basically a generic arcade shooter, coop might bring it up to 8.5 but it could NEVER get a higher score than that, it's def not good enough. fail.

[AngryTypingGuy]

I will definitely be getting this game. RE4 was one of my favorite games ever. I don't know why so many people are being babies about the controls. To the f@g who said it's broken...just because you would like controls doesn't mean it's broken. Personally, I got used to the controls real quickly. This is not a run and gun action game. It's a survival horror game, and the controls force you to be just a little more accurate and quick in your shooting. The co-op gameplay will make this game even better. This is a must-have for me.

Would I like the controls updated for the next one? Yeah. I think Resident Evil with a Rainbow Six control scheme would be awesome. But if they don't update the controls, I won't call it "broken".

[Big_Mex]

i was forcing myself to like this game but i finally have to give up the controls are just horrible... really sucks too i was looking forward to this game for awhile. Hopefully they change it before the game ships but i doubt it

[ravenl0rd]

I still see no evidence of this game being broken. For a game to be broken, there must be a game-breaking glitch or control scheme that makes it impossible to complete. Resident Evil 5 is a prettier version of Resident Evil 4, and I fail to see how that is a bad thing. Anyone hoping for a reinvention of the wheel were obviously not watching the preview videos for this game. The previews clearly showed that the control scheme was almost identical to Resident Evil 4. Resident Evil 4 is an absolutely fantastic game. Back then, everyone was raving about the control scheme. It has not aged that badly. I can't possibly see how anyone could have loved RE4 and not get all warm and fuzzy inside playing RE5. That is all.

[whatis]

I disagree I thought it played great.

[resistance022]

he'd be able to be more flexible and fast.
Gears of war is faster ad look at all that gear they have on!!!

[Jamaicangmr]

Demo is crap can't bother to even finish a online game. Controls are HORRIBLE!!!! Graphics are pretty nice but it stops there. Doesn't play like something i'd even bother finishing if i bought it.

Capcom needs to step it up or discontinue the franchise.

[whatis]

"If it doesn't play like Gears of War/Uncharted/Dead Space, then it SUCKS!!111 LolZ Last G3n FTL"

Boy I sure hope that Capcom have the balls to release the game how it is/how they want it/how it should be - without changing it in order to pander to you whiny noobs.

I don't usually say the word noob but I feel that in this instance it is appropriate.

[ravenl0rd]

Again, why does every game have to play like Gears? Why can't Gears play like Gears, and RE play like RE?

[N2NOther]

I've played every numbered RE game (save for zero) and Code Veronica...I've played through RE 4 more than probably any other game and I can tell you, with no uncertainty, that I HATED the controls of RE 5. Why? Because it plays almost exactly like 4. And since 4, games have come a long way. Dead Space was, for all intents and purposes, "Resident Evil in Space" and yet they got this one simple thing right. Did it make the game any less challenging? Not at all, but having the controls being antiquated isn't making the game challenging...It's completely miscalculating your audience.

To all of those people that say "it's RE", are you telling me that you didn't like RE4's controls because they really WEREN'T Resident Evil in any way, shape, or form? Are you telling me that if they added the ability to move while shooting, that any of you would have cried foul? I doubt it.

This game will sell well based on it's name but I work at a Gamestop and I can tell you that a lot of people who have tried the demo didn't like it. Now, I know it's just one Gamestop out of 5000 but the reality is that we're not going to be unique in this. Capcom really could have done more with this and made the game that much better.

[gigakain]

I hate the controls.

I played RE4.... 2 & 1 back in the day loved them, RE Nemesis...loved it. I even like the Resident Evil movies lol..... well except for the awful CG one.

Japan doesn't get us. We are such different cultures that this seems to happen often. You read all the time about how they hate shooters in Japan, they dislike guns period for the most part, and they think all we like is big dumb marines running around shooting everything that moves and mmmm yeah maybe they are right.

I just get a tiny bit insulted when I see this crap.... Look at Chris Redfields arms now. WTF he is a Roid head now or what?? Im telling you that is an example of what they think we want. That's a separate issue ill get back to controls.

Where they get it wrong is their refusal to evolve. They are very comfortable staying with the sammmmmme game mechanics in their core genres. Look at Dynasty Warriors....The DQ and FF series....shoot even MGS4 had to be dragged into this gen (Thanks to Ryan Payton schooling all the Devs over there, and thank god Kojima is a smart guy and he gets it) with its much improved (but still a bit sluggish) shooting mechanics.

And what the hell is it with people thinking that this system adds to the suspense.... To me its lazy and yes its possible to make a run/walk & gun shooter that is scary. Are you saying that L4D isn't scary? That it doesnt have tense moments? When you dont know what the AI is going to throw at you?? Or I know its been said before but Dead Space anyone? So its a weak argument to say that the controls "enhance" the fear.. They don't.

In L4D & Dead Space I'm scared of the zombies AND i have excellent controls, noone to blame but myself when I die.

In RE I'm not afraid of Zombies when im standing there reloading and firing im just frustrated.

[ravenl0rd]

L4D is a first person shooter. There is nothing innovative there.

[YouNoob]

good old Resi gameplay that needs no change, period. if you arent good enough for this kind of game and only can do run&gun, go play flopzone or gaylo, they are more suited for NOOBS.

and for the dumb ai, i beat both levels easily with the ai partner but as soon as i go online, my human partner usually doesnt survive very long. dumb humans rather, or lets call them NOOBS.

[indiagamer]

they shud have have named it sumthing else its the trademark of re they are carrying which is making a lot of people dissappointed....

i played the demo tbh re:code veronica was able to create more tension n fear thn re5...!!!

[SkinBintin]

I was desperate to play Resident Evil 5, but after spending an hour on the demo, I've lost interest. I couldn't care about it anymore...

Come on capcom, delay it and fix the crap controls.

[FAT_GAMER]

i agree with ShinGino RE is not like other shotting games

[Mizz_mai]

hahahahahahahaha

[xg-ei8ht]

The Graphics are decent, but there are things missing if you want to go that route.

Shoot at the leaves, oops nothing happens, it's like the bullet never left my gun.

People are moaning about control schemes because it feels stiff in comparison to alot of titles about now.

We are not saying, its an uncharted, or gears, etc.

But it could have been better.

I still like it though.

Demo score.

8.5 / 10

[bamyrick226]

anyword if there gonna fix this?im not buying this crap as it is. i also deleated the demo after one play.

[marichuu]

No, they won't fix it. I don't believe they fixed RE4 either... It had the same issues, and you couldn't even strafe in it. If I recall correctly, the port to the PC didn't even make it possible to use the mouse to aim with.

[Keowrath]

I've not played the demo yet, downloaded and installed it (PS3) but have yet to try it.

I've seen so much hate surrounding this title it's unreal. I've been a fan of Resi evil since Biohazard was originally released on the PS1. Played and completed all of the main RE titles except Veronica and had an absolute BLAST with RE4 (even tho I was one of the original people who complained about the change from Racoon city to europe and the fact that the creatures weren't "zombies" anymore) Once I got into the game I played it until I'd unlocked absolutely everything (something I've never done before with a Resi title)

Does this game still play like previous Resident Evil titles? Obviously 4 changed the gameplay slighty. I'm fine without not being able to run and shoot because that's how the series has always been but is this the only gripe people have? If it is, then I can't wait for this next title.

[sak500]

Wait, You downloaded the demo and installed it on ps3? Why can't u play the demoo once u download straight away? All demos on pc3 require to be installed?

[heroicjanitor]

I am used to run and gun like many people, but this isn't a run and gun game so stop wishing it was. If you like COD then good for you, but judge Resident Evil on it's own merits, not on what you want it to be like. Isn't that what everyone was saying about Killzone 2? That they were reviewing it as if it were Halo? It is fun if you have a friend to play it with, and the slow moving is to put you in danger, so that a friend can help or to induce panic. If you could move while shooting it would be the COD:WAW nazi zombie mode.

[OhMyGandhi]

wait. a. friggin. second.

Who actually argued realism as a valid reason for the stop and go shooting style? Genki, was that you?

you do realize that zombies are in the game?

and I suppose you haven't had experience with THEM in the real world, have you?

[re4]

Get one shotgun and try running and shooting at the same time. How stupid are people to complain about this? This is Resident Evil, thats the way its supposed to be. If you don't like it, go play your silly Gears of War. The non moving and shooting thing adds more intense gameplay experience. The game was going to be very easy if you were able to shoot and run like lets say in Uncharted. And also the player doesn't have unlimited supply of ammo. No one would like to waste his ammo running backwards with a chance of 25% to hit your targets. And the most of the areas (as seen in the demo) are in closed spaces, were are you going to run in a room?

[kelixaleir]

GOD do you guys need something to b*tch about in all games, it aint supposed to be like killzone etc...

The controls are basically the same as resi 4, and lets just review that game shall we?

Hmmm oh yea it was damn good

Go back to ure killzone fps fan boys

[marichuu]

No, RE4 had the same terrible issues with controls. Sure, you're supposed to be "omfg I have to survive this, what to do what to do?? run for your life!" while only thing make it hard is the retarded controls and nothing else. There's no logic whatsoever... Why can't he sidestep in RE4? Why can't he shoot while moving? It has nothing to do with "it's horror", it's just developers stupidity.
I love shooting and killing zombies as much as the next guy, but I can't take RE seriously... it's way more fun looking at someone else playing it than doing it so yourself.

It's not fun.
It's not innovative.
It's going back to 1991.
Graphics don't make a great game.
Blood and gore doesn't make a great game either.

The inventory didn't make any sense either... Look at Fallout 3 and then have the guts to come back and say "RE5 has better inventory."

[oppie]

This demo was a huge disappointment, I love the series and have always had high hopes for it. This franchise is clearly not going to live up to is potential, well not anytime soon anyways,

[jrsenkbe]

completeley agree. The controls felt cluncky, but thats how all RE games play. Will still pick up.

[DARK WITNESS]

seems some of you people defending it are just thick....

NO ONE is saying it needs to be a run and gun like killzone or Gears of war or any action shooter.

If the only way to make a game scary is by giving it bad controls, or if being able to move and shoot would make the game too easy then it really shows up how bad some of the game design is.

There are loads of other ways of making a game scary, suspenseful.. with out making you feel like your playing a retard.

ok maybe in the real world moving and shooting with a shotgun is hard... but come on, this dude can't even move with a knife.

You guys admit that the gameplay has changed and seems to be more action survival then horror, yet somehow you think the controls should not change to reflect that ?

if any other game had controls this bad you would all call it last gen, but this is RES5 its suppose to play like a last gen game...

as someone pointed out there is a lot more wrong with it then just the controls, but i love the way people keep using this whole " its RES not gears or any other shooter " as an excuse.

All i can say is Dead Space has proved that moving and shooting can work ( moving and shooting does not = running around like its URT or COD4 ) .... yes we know it's RES and not Dead Space... yet dead space managed to do it and still stay true to its horror theme.. unlike RES which already feels like its lost that aspect of it, but all the Hardcore fans still want the backward controls.

sure the rest of us are all noobs cos we won't back this pile of crap
and were not afraid to call it like we see it.

The controls suck, and before you say " don't buy it then " don't worry, i don't plan on buying it, i will save my money and give it to EA when dead space 2 comes out... i never thought i would say that.

[heroicjanitor]

It's a good job you stated it as a fact or the rest of us might not have taken you seriously... Some people like the slow moving game-play, and it is only slow at the start, once you get good at it you shoot them in the face and when he recoils use your tree trunk arms to smash his face. Then stomp for good measure. Seriously get into the game with a friend and you will see it is great.

[marichuu]

I said something similar in 7.1
You really need to spend more hours on "learning" the terrible controls or just getting used to the terrible design, which isn't acceptable at all ;<

[DARK WITNESS]

@ heroicjanitor

what like all the hardcore are stating it as a fact that the rest of us are noobs because we don't like the controls...

it is just my opinion. If you ask me personally i think it should just be an option... thats all it needs, a simple option.

but the hard truth is that some people don't seem to notice something when it's a nice polite opinionated conversation... you need to insult them first for them to be even ready to notice what your trying to say.

I apologize if i sound like i am personally attacking someone ( i know i do sound like that ) but it's getting on my nerves people are giving good reasons why the controls need to change and the only argument being thrown back at is us is " this is RES 5 and we are all noobs for not rolling over on our backs and accepting the controls as they are because they should not change.

[heroicjanitor]

Just play it with a friend for a while I swear you will get used to the controls. I hated it at first(the only part I still hate is that you have to stand still while reloading, and reloading the rifle takes AGES) Anyone can play a game if they get used to the controls, but if I played a football game for the first time(I'm great at them, just saying since I played a friend who never played one) he would say it's terrible because it isn't doing what he wants it too. Just give it a chance that's all I'm saying.

[DARK WITNESS]

@ heroicjanitor

i hear what you are saying.

anyone can get use to anything if you work at it long enough... but personally i don't believe that should mean we just let the developer off by pretending its ok... or its some unique part of the gameplay.

i will give it another go and maybe with time it will grow on me.

like i said i don't mean to personally attack anyone; what you have said is perfectly fine and gives me more of a reason to give it another try.

let me put it this way, when i first played dead space i also found the controls for that took some getting use too... but the game came across as so cool, i mean the art style, the sound the whole feel of the game.. i got use to it quick and really enjoyed it.

With Res5, the hardcore fans are not really giving us a reason to want to stick with it. i mean nothing stood out to me while i was playing it...other then the controls.

sure its just a demo, but here is the thing; within the first 2 min of dead space.. even though i struggled with the controls at first, i was hooked on it with in the first few min of the opening cut scene. and trust me if it had not, i would have been returning it right back to the shops the same day.

At least you have given me a reason to give it another try. even if i don't buy it, i will give it a rent.

[rekonizakilla]

Wow alot of you guys are totally missing the whole point of this article. It's not saying it's not a good game.

Yes it is. Why can't I shoot and run at the same time?

Why can't I walk backwards and shoot?

Is Chris Redfield supposed to be a trained special forces operative?

Followed by,this game isn't fun anymore

[McLuvn]

AIMED shots kill enemies.
Wildly spraying automatic gun fire would only cause collateral damage to your squad mates and waste ammo soldier.

[ta1snake]

I.A looks stupid, they just standing around and waiting to get shoot.

[greedo1980]

If the capcom development team hadnt brought attention to their inhouse discussions about RE5 control scheme and their admiration for Gears of War control scheme, then it would never had been an issue.

It appears to be new policy to moan about the RE control scheme in gaming forums. I dont know why as the scheme is more or less the same as it always has been.

If you introduce run and gun to the series then game would lose a lot of its tension.

Playing the demo has removed any silly doubt I had and I cant wait till the gameis released. RE5 will be a cracker.

[MagicAccent]

Didn't anybody ever play RE4?

This is absolutely ridiculous, stop complaining about the controls! How a games control system is built does not have anything to do with next-gen.
If you want to play a third-person action shooter, that's fine. Go play Gears. But don't start whining about removing the ONLY survival aspect of the game that is RE. DON'T.
You guys suck, you know that? :P

[DARK WITNESS]

you see, thats the point " But don't start whining about removing the ONLY survival aspect of the game that is RE. DON'T. "

if that is all that makes the game stand out as survival then a lot more needs to be changed then just the controls.

[MagicAccent]

That IS my point. Since the RE franchise is only a shadow of its former self. They have already removed so much, if they make it like a thirdperson shooter... Well, I don't have to tell you. It's gone.

[DARK WITNESS]

well it sounds like we are almost saying the same thing.

the real solution is this from the sound of it; They should change the controls to make them more accessible. then they should change the actually content to make it more true to its survival horror roots.

or let me put it this way... Right now RES 5 plays more like a bad third person shooter, then a good survival horror game. at least the impression i get. that's why i say Capcom need to change more then just its controls. keeping them as they are does not make it more survival horror... it should rely more on the actual game content itself to do that, not the controls.

[MagicAccent]

Let's start with putting zombies back in, eh?

[OhMyGandhi]

almost all of Dark Witness's comments are dead on.

I hate it when people say "go back to killzone" or "go back to gears of war".

They just sound like complete fools.
The guy moves around like an old tomb raider game.

[BLAKICEMAN]

Anyone complaining about Resident Evil 5 has never played a Resident Evil game. Dont hate what you dont know. You should not play like you always did and it will make killer sales. End of Story.