Uncharted 2 to set the bar higher than Killzone 2

Naughty Dog claims to be fully utilizing the SPU's (Synergistic Processing Unit)on the ps3 and pushing the hardware even further than guerilla games. If true, this will be incredible seeing how Killzone 2 only uses 60% of the PS3's SPU's! This not only would give Uncharted the chance to capitalize in graphics but also in FPS (Frames Per Second).

[whateva]

because Uncharted 1 is a beast

[pain777pas]

Sony is starting to show its true colors and so is the PS3

[jack who]

more hype

[Gerry Mark II]

agreed and better than Womb Raider: Unsatisfying

[rucky]

Nothing to hype on the other end huh? ;)

[Gerry Mark II]

Trolling the PLAYSTATION®3 section again because you have nothing better comming out besides DLC, muliplats and more Halo spinoffs?

[KillzoneKid]

too bad

there is nothing to hype on x360

since all it has for 2009 are lame DLCs and crap games

[pswi60]

I bet November seems like a really, really long time ago....huh bud?

Karma is a b!tch

[NegativeCreep427]

Jack Who's obvious jealousy makes my heart shine!!!

[lokiroo420]

jack who, you will now be referred to as jack off! To the ps3 owners, were not surprised!

[likedamaster]

If anything needs the hype it's killzone 2 (especially with how bad part 1 did). Uncharted 2 will do fine.

[infamousinfolite]

You right he does got nothing to do. Seeing how the 180 got no games. Hey remember when xbots were saying how ps3 got no games well it's amazing how they eat their own words and karma it's a witch ain't it! lmbo

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

POOR xBot Zombie DLC Lemmings on this not having a good week are you!!!
;-D ;-D ;-D

The xBox 360 CAN'T outsell the PS3 by a lot World-wide in 2008 and it's dirt cheap!!!
;-D

KillZone 2 makes every xBox 360 game look like a N64 game!!! ;-D

xBots CRYING because PS3 owners are getting the BEST Games!!! ;-D

Resident Evil 5 WILL be better on the PS3(they hate me saying that!!!) ;-D
(like most Multi-format games were last year, but the internet try and fool everyone that the PS3 versions are worse...Most PS3 versions ARE the better versions!!!)

And now this...

AWW!!!;)

[dukadork2]

more tears

XDDDDD

[gersh]

You're making him cry.

[ultimolu]

...WOW.
If they achieve that...idek.

[meepmoopmeep]

what is idek?

[ultimolu]

I don't even know. >:P

*pokes*

[meepmoopmeep]

hahah, thanks

why did you get disagrees? lol.

[Hallucinate]

hey meep why cant i give you bubbles?

[cayal]

"hahah, thanks

why did you get disagrees? lol. "

Apparently someone thinks he does know.

[meepmoopmeep]

lol, i dunno why,

i lost 2 bubbles in under 5 hours today though.

lulz.
i don't really care about bubbles, i'd be fine with just one.

[ultimolu]

The other side has this sick hate/obsession with me that's why. :o

[Gerry Mark II]

Who cares? i just feel satisfied i can play Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 (the real GOW) only on the PLAYSTATION®3.

[TheHater]

couldn't agree more. We get to play those games, and that all that should matter to PS3 owners.

[Sarcasm]

Don't forget Gran Turismo 5...

*drools*

[TheHater]

God of war 3 is what going to shatter what we think is possible on the PS3.
But I don't care. I will be playing all three of those games :)

[Cajun Chicken]

This is Naughty Dog, as much as I like Killzone 2 and Guerilla, they will, Naughty Dog will. These are the 'maxers' of Playstation systems then Santa Monica takes over.

[LightningPS3PS3]

Uncharted 2 most likely uses the same graphics engine as Uncharted 1, and it was brilliant but I think the graphics will be about the same as Uncharted 1 with some additions,changes, and improvements here and there.

To me once the graphics engine is set,it's set. You can only do so much with it. We've heard this kind of thing before from developers of games like Motorstorm and Gears of War. Sequels of those games used the same graphic engines as the originals so they looked about the same as the originals. You're usually not gonna get shocking graphics from sequels that use the same engine as the their original counterpart.

Some people may think so, some people might think that Motorstorm 2 looked way ahead of motorstorm 1, some people might think Gears of War 2 looked way better than Gears of War 1.

But that's not how I see it.

But that's just my opinion. My money would be on that Uncharted 2 looks a lot like the original. Everyone else can do whatever they want with their money.

And go easy on the disagrees, I'm just telling you where my money is.

[SAiOSiN]

u honestly think people are going to take you seriously after your immature comments in the past? w/e im watching you though. want a bubble? ur looking a bit short.

[LightningPS3PS3]

The sad part is, I hardly ever troll or act immature. I just say the truth and people take away my bubbles.

I just call it how I see it. "PS3 needs a price cut" disagree all you want.

If I've said it 1 million times, it's because it's true 1 million times.

[KillzoneKid]

That kid lightning is one of the biggest Xbox fanboy in here

You can see his account at GAF too

all he does is troll

KZ2 looks miless better than anything we have seen

Ofcourse Uncharted is the second best looking game on cosoles

Uncharted 2> Killzone 2

ignore him

he trolls since his console has failed on him

[GVON]

I think U2 looks better already, check these direct feed screens

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

the res is higher than the final game but

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[gamesmaster]

its not that your comments are always immature, just sometimes you say things that just don't need to be said or are irrelevant to the context of the news (this being an exception), whch people see as tolling, i myself.

i understand what you're saying about the engine, but game engines can evolve, ps3 is essentially still infant in its architecture which reflects in the engines that are working well (uncharted's engine), i'm sure naughty dog will be able to utilize their tools much more and we'll see some improvements not here and there, but where it matters.

are you excited for unchartered 2 coz i am.

[rucky]

I'll give you a bubble too for becoming more and more sensible lately on your posts. But don't act like you weren't trolling before when your exact words are...

"I hope it's even worse than that, because Sony deserves a whooping"

"Time to end the embarresment, drop out guys. Can't wait till December NPD."

or

"Who buys a PS3? Only hardcore Playstation fans who don't value money."

[Cajun Chicken]

Not the way ND work on it, see the difference between the quality of the modelling on Jak1 to Jak2 (or Crash 1 to Crash 2). It'll be quite a large difference there will be even MORE details.

This is what ND do. However, the third game might just have minor tweaks. Much like Jak2-3-X.

[Hallucinate]

at OP.. i know what your saying people just dont think outside the box anymore its pretty damn sad

[yanikins111]

oh come on. Is No one going to even bring up that MotorStorm: PR's engine was rebuilt from the ground up to accomodate 4 player split screen? Huh? Or are we going to argue half truths?

Fact is alot of the look of games that passes on to sequals is art direction. Ie, Motor storm, Ratchet and clank, Resistance, Killzone->Killzone 2, even the Metal Gear Solid series that have branched over 3 console generations have their own distinctive art style.

[Meus Renaissance]

KillZone 2 uses 100% of the SPU. Direct comment from GG.

[TheHater]

But GG also stated that they can optimize it for better performance for future games.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Coding / technique is a never ending process.
With a fresh perspective and some tuning I'm sure that 100% could become 90% or lower.

[JBaby343]

The CELL (SPUs) are not good for gaming. Didn't you guys know? They could use 100% of all SPUs and it wouldn't matter. Haven't you seen how bad the first Uncharted was not to mention MGS4 and now KZ2.

/sarcasm

[Bubble Buddy]

Go DRAKE!

[VMAN_01]

Man its good to be a PS3 owner!

[Huh]

i believe in naughty dog they can do it

[hedak]

KZ2 =awesome
Uncharted 2=awesome (I Hope)
PS3=awesome

[Yomiro]

That's why the next gen starts 2/27/09

[dredgewalker]

I dont really care how they work out the SPU's im not gonna be thinking about that when Uncharted 2 comes out and i dont need to choose between the games cause they are day one purchase for me. I know Naughty Dog can pull it off and ill just leave the technical aspects to them and all the gaming to myself. =)

[darkdoom3000]

Cause Im getting both games!!! hehehehe!!!

[s8anicslayer]

if sony exclusives start to exceed the graphics prowess of killzone 2 then it's lights out for their competition.killzone 2 looks amazing

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Hopefully it will correct the god awful screen tearing in Uncharted. Playing thru it a second time right now.

Great game and Drake feels a lot like Indiana Jones.

Why didn't HipHopGamer include the actual quote from Naughty Dog saying they will set the bar higher than Killzone 2? This sounds like just an assumption based on the fact that ND claim they are using %100 of the SPU's.

[rucky]

Screen tearing wasn't THAT god awful crab (you're exaggerating again as usual) but it was indeed noticeable. Hopefully the sequel will be flawless on that aspect.

[swiftshot93]

yea the screen tearing and the pop-in. Other than that fantastic game.

[Sevir04]

it happens but it certainly doesn't make the game unplayable. i expect screen tears for a game like that with so much post processing effects and constant streaming going in. I'd like them to fix the texture pop-ins the first one had and make this the story even better than the already amazing story and narritive they had in the first game. it's simply amazing.

[Cajun Chicken]

I don't recall any severe screen tearing.

@Above
Yeah, would be great if texture pop in was sorted, that was really the only thing I noticed through Uncharted, but thats nearly on all games these days.
But hey! When Nathan's shirt got wet, it dried over time in the heat! Now, THATS awesome.

[JBaby343]

At release there was some screen-tearing but since FW updates I honestly rarely see any. The only times I notice pop-in is starting into Level 2 and level 18 (I think it's 18) right after Eddie gets killed in the vault. Otherwise I never saw any. Crab exaggerates.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Chill out. I never said it was a game breaker or I wouldn't be playing it thru a second time. I've played the game to death, have the platinum trophy and yes the tearing is noticable as is the pop-in, no exaggeration. If you want to deny it then by all means.

I like the game and I will say if you own a PS3 this is a must own title. Or am I just over exaggerating again? :\

[JBaby343]

You realize you are actually giving some praise to a PS3 game right? A PS3 game.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I had pop-in once...when you land, after parachuting.

Screen-tearing...I haven't had any issues with yet. I'm sure it's there. It's just not that bad.

I do have UTIII on PS3 though...and pop-ins happen CONSTANTLY! The 360 version was improved a bit and doesn't do that so much...because Epic built the game with RAM in mind.

The same goes with Gears of War 1 and 2 on 360 also...terrible pop-ins and screen-tear.

[Blitzed]

I absolutely love the game but there was screen tearing.

Cant wait for #2.

[GIJeff]

have you seen the new indiana jones movie? its as if lucas stole several aspects including plot, characters, and scenes from uncharted. weird..except uncharted was much better than indiana jones.

[yojoe26]

Naughty Dog can do to improve this game, in my opinion. It was and still is an absolute masterpiece in every single way. Story, game-play, character-development, level-design, graphics, etc. Everything about this game reeked masterpiece. The only qualm I had with the game was that it ended way before I was ready for it to. Of course that tells you how incredible of a game that it is that it kept me wanting more. Still though. If they add about five to ten more hours to the play length it will be absolutely perfect in every way in my book.

[PotNoodle]

Thats what she said.

[gametheory]

You guys know jack sh1t, this isn't news. How much do "hydrolex", "hip-hop gamer" and "Tordavis" know about hardware and game development? Wrong question. The right question is: Do they know ANYTHING?

[Pootie Tang]

Here's is the interview
http://www.ps3blog.eu.com/i...

Here is the quote:

PSU: In December, IGN’s Jeff Haynes stated that Killzone 2 was using only about 60% of the PS3’s SPU’s. Has that changed since then, and what are your thoughts on pushing the PS3’s limits in the future?

MdJ : To be honest I don’t know who said Killzone 2 only uses 60% of the SPUs as that’s simply not true. It all depends on what is happening at a certain moment in the game. In some (rare) cases when there isn’t much action going on the game doesn’t require all the SPUs to run at full speed, but there are plenty of combat heavy situations where we max out on all SPUs and run at 100%.

[Jrome]

Umm, GG said killzone 2 spreads the workload about 60% each SPU during intense scenes so that it is even. Am i wrong?

EDIT

Good find pootie

[gamfreak]

The moment i've been waiting for.... Let us gamers see what you can really do with the all mighty PS3, Naughty Dog....!!!!!

[Kushan]

Another sensationalist title from Hiphopgamer. Colour me surprised.

If you're actually naive enough to think that every PS3 game out there so far has never used all of the SPU's running at 100%, you've been incredibly misinformed on how games are made.
Games have ALWAYS pushed the hardware on whatever they've ran on, it's never been about "using as much of the processor as you can", rather it's always been "Get as much out of the processor as you can". That means programming in a certain way, using certain techniques, using the hardware to it's very maximum. This is why on every console ever released, the quality of games have always got better over time. You learn things about the hardware, you learn a new way to do something that's a few percent faster than the old way, it all adds up and it adds up well over time.

The PS3 was considerably different to any console released previously, so there was an uphill struggle for many developers as they had to learn so much just to get something to run well, but it's no different to any other architecture in terms of how it'll fare over time - it'll get better, it's the same for the 360, hell even the Wii will get better over time, it's just the way things work.

In fact, I think if Uncharted 2 DIDN'T look and/or play any better than the first one, people would be more surprised.

[gametheory]

If you did, you'd know that the port of the Orange Box on PS3 only runs on the PPU and the RSX, unoptimized. I.E. they "are not using as much" of the CPU as they can, they treated the PS3 as if it was a PC. That's why the game sucked ass on PS3. So yeah, they didn't use the processor as they should have, not because they couldn't get as much as they tried, but because they didn't use as much. That's what happens in multi-core computing.

"If you're actually naive enough to think that every PS3 game out there so far has never used all of the SPU's running at 100%, you've been incredibly misinformed on how games are made.
Games have ALWAYS pushed the hardware on whatever they've ran on, it's never been about "using as much of the processor as you can", "

So name one game that has used the cell processor to its fullest other than Killzone 1? Shut the hell up, the only misinformed one here is you. A single core processor can be taken advantage off a lot easier, just cram as much as you can on a single thread and you're all set, i.e. "get as much as you can" instead of "use as much as you can".

To balance the workload between all the threads available on the PS3 takes a lot more than just "Get as much out of the processor as you can", it's also about "using as much of the processor as you can", and initially few if any devs used "as much" as they could because they had little time to turn their last-gen code into next-gen code by splitting the workload between all the SPE's.

[JBaby343]

I couldn't have said it better myself. Kushan always posts stupid crap. Several developers have said they didn't even touch the SPUs. Especially in the early days. Naughty Dog even said they weren't using everything the PS3 has in the first Uncharted before release.

[Kushan]

I never once said that there were games out there that DIDN'T use all the SPUs (or even any of the SPUs), what I said was that there already existed games that used them all, they just didn't use them as best as they could. That's a hell of a rant for such a misunderstanding, you should try calming down.

[GIJeff]

on this one. being one who programs an awful lot in c/c++...this site just irritates me sometimes.

[evrfighter]

That's kind of funny as the Source engine is cpu heavy. Meaning the more powerful the cpu the more fps you will get. Only at 8xAA 16Xaf or insane resolutions does the source engine start taxing heavy gpu loads.

But its the cell right? It should have performed just as well as its pc counterparts. The Cell while a modern marvel for its time, is just not worth the time to port for. That's why we are seeing lots of 360/PC games only.

[gametheory]

"what I said was that there already existed games that used them all, they just didn't use them as best as they could. "

And I gave you the chance to prove it yet you didn't. Where are the games that "already existed and used them all"? You fail.

"9.4 - im with K
on this one. being one who programs an awful lot in c/c++...this site just irritates me sometimes. "

Riiiight. If you knew about C/C++ how come you didn't say anything remotely useful? I am also an every day programmer, so I know what I'm talking about. You don't simply decide to "get as much as you can" by passively optimizing a few operations and functions and compressing some assets, the processor doesn't automatically know which SPU to use, you have to actively program with different threads in mind and know how to split your previously single threaded code in multi-threaded code. Sometimes it's pretty hard to do that if you don't have the skills or the experience.

"@gametheory
That's kind of funny as the Source engine is cpu heavy. Meaning the more powerful the cpu the more fps you will get. Only at 8xAA 16Xaf or insane resolutions does the source engine start taxing heavy gpu loads.

But its the cell right? It should have performed just as well as its pc counterparts. The Cell while a modern marvel for its time, is just not worth the time to port for. That's why we are seeing lots of 360/PC games only. "

This post reeks of ignorance. "The Cell while a modern marvel for its time, is just not worth the time to port for." Says who? Gabe Newell? Right. How come the developers of one of the best games ever *can't* port it while the developers of Burnout, COD4, Tomb Raider, Ninja Gaiden, Mirror's Edge, Dead Space and other multiplatform games were able to get the PS3 version running?

It doesn't matter if the Source Engine is CPU heavy, it wasn't designed with Multi-core computing in mind because it's a last-gen engine and it's pathetic that whoever ported the Orange Box to PS3 couldn't get it running fine and dandy. The PS3 has destroyed all claims that "it is impossible" with all the fine games it has shown. The Orange box isn't a very impressive game from a technical stand-point, that's why it's so retarded and it doesn't deserve to be bought by PS3 owners.

Valve refused to re-write their OLD, no wait, *Obsolete* engine because taking a bit of time would make them go out of their way. So fatso newell decided he couldn't move out of his chair and said *fck it, no PS3 port, I can't move. Bring me an Arby's sandwich please*. It doesn't help that he used to work for Microsoft.

All they had to do is make a f***ing decent port, move the physics to the SPUs, optimize the graphics code for the RSX (I'm sure the RSX, being a souped up 7800, can handle the game alone considering the game not a technical marvel), and if there's anything missing, use the SPUs, there are LOTS of SPUs that can do a lot of things including many graphical operations.

"Why can't the cell di it" Well the cell can't magically turn single threaded code into multi-threaded code, and considering you think you know something about engines, you should know that.

[GIJeff]

is that you simply repeat everything you've heard/said. I can make a program in a couple of seconds that displays a black screen that will max out my quad core. I can also make a program that displays the same black screen while using almost no cpu. so, obviously, its possible to make the same thing more efficiently. I could say I'm using 100% of all 4 cores, or, I can say I'm wasting a lot of cpu on bad programming...you just don't hear too many devs admit to it. I know I would never admit that my creation is inferior. :)

PS. calm down.

BTW, I'm not telling you the cell is weak, the PS3 is obviously the fastest console out there. Especially in the processor department. And orange box is a terrible port. All I'm saying is that 100% of a programmer's ability is != 100% of the machine's.

[Kushan]

GIJeff makes a lot of sense, you could do with listening to him. I'm also a programmer, specialising in C++. And more to the point, specialising in games, but go ahead and ignore anything I say.

[CrayzeeCarl]

It's easy to max out all the cores on a multi-core processor. Wanna know how? Just do this:

while(1)
{
//do something
}

on each core. See? I'm the greatest programmer in the world! j/k

It's not about using 100% of the cpu, it's about using it in the most efficient way. So you could actually say, it's about using as little of the cpu as possible while still doing the same processing.

[No FanS Land]

if they wish to beat killzone's power they'll have to develop a game faster than GG in months??? HHG it's time you stop drinking kool-aid.

[Pleth]

If someone gives me a Jag one day then a Porche the next I am NOT going to sit there and say, "That one used all the horsepower off the line and this one uses it all, too, but since it's got a newer chip it only uses 60%."

Seriously?

I eaxiously await the release of each title I find enthrawling and then I play the game. If it's got good online and replayability I keep it. If not it goes to gamestop for credit towards the next new game I want. I cannot believe people sit here and argue about what one game can do over the next.

[badkolo]

if they arent using the full 100% of the cpu's on killzone 2 or uncharted 2 then im not buying either, anyone need a free ps3.

sike.

[Lumbo]

O_o

How does he manage to STILL name the SPUs wrong after more than years ...

SPU (in relation to the CellBBE) = Synergistic Processing Unit, NOT "Signal processing unit"

[GIJeff]

that pissed me off too.

[evrfighter]

Did that really piss you off?

your kidding right?

[GIJeff]

I may have exaggerated. It was kinda lame though...as far as mistakes go. If you are going to do an article on how much SPU juice is being used, you would think dude would bother to know what SPU means...

giggle...i said SPU juice.

[N4360G]

That would be crazy,I don't doubt Naughty Dog though,I mean Uncharted still has the best graphics out of all the games this generation.Killzone 2 will top Uncharted next month though.All I know is both Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 will be awesome and I will be buying both on day one of their releases!!

[N4M3L355]

Duuhhh...it uses 100%...no 60% during battles. Alright, we get it, stop with it already.

[Pleth]

Arkham Asylum looks dope.

[HS83]

First killzone 2 looking good, now this! Man its bad day to be a xbox 360 fan!

[dustgavin]

It is hard for anyone to deny that the PS3 is a powerhouse. I have been gaming for many years and cannot believe the games this system is pumping out!

[cyberwaffles]

judging from jaffe's expressions of god of war 3, i think that game may surpass both killzone 2 and uncharted 2. god of war blown minds before, i don't see why they can't do it again. either way, it's a good time to be a ps3 owner for such triple A titles.

[Socomer 1979]

now that you got a ps3 and you are going into the ins and outs of a early ps3 game called uncharted. i have to ask you now if youve been pulled to the darkside and believe that uncharted has beat gears of war 1 in graphics and A.I. and was very underrated in its release by the media. for most of us it was the best graphics of its time and easily surpasses gears of war. i hope you got your hd glasses on. so whats your answer?

[likedamaster]

Probably teh only game worth buying on that console. No replayability only after trophies(aug., game dropped in nov. year prior).

ND needs to add some kind of co-op or multiplayer experience on 2 'cause once you've played campaign that's it, and if the story's not like 1 and crappy no one's gonna bother with it let alone part 3.

It's good to know that ND is working hard to make this game fun and not just goodlooking(ahem kz2) and worth your while with platforming and puzzles.

I've always recommended this game to everyone that owns a ps3, unfortunately that's about it.

[Socomer 1979]

you may have remebered me as RAM MAGNUMS. until i was betrayed by the red light 2 times too many and joined the darkside.

[jkhan]

I wouldn't say Killzone 2 has hit PS3 limit. Killzone 2 can be considered as the begining, infact Uncharted 1 can be considered as the beginning of amazing looking PS3 games.Uncharted 2 will look amazing but you can't really compare the two games, because they are totally different. Killzone 2 is a very busy FPS with tons of stuff going on screen. While if Uncharted 1 is an indication, Uncharted 2 will look amazing but there won't be that much amount of effects on screen. The water looked mind blowing in Uncharted, I am pretty sure the snow will be the best snow in videogames history (console only).

[Socomer 1979]

i fell in love with uncharted the second i started shooting. the story was really good for a game and i hated when reviewers downplayed it by telling potential new customers that weve heard it all before in a movie called romancing the stone. romancing the stone was a really good movie and i think uncharted kicked its a$$ because drake is a bigger star than kirk douglas and how the fck are kids even supposed to know who in the world kirk douglas is supposed to be? that movie came out in the 80s. uncharted took a huge dump on what was supposed to be the best graphics for a 3rd person shooter and it wasnt even about space marines shooting aliens. gears of war was outclassed and here we have history repeating itself.

[likedamaster]

" gears of war was outclassed and here we have history repeating itself. "

You're funny. Even attempting to compare the two is Ha-larious.

Most will disagree with you.

[ironmonkey]

either way good for ps3

[GIJeff]

but your theories are pretty stupid...the kind of theories you'd get if you were really really high and had nothing better to do.

[likedamaster]

I'm assuming he means setting the bar higher than Killzone 2 in how much they utilize the PS3's resources because there is no bar that Killzone 2 set higher as far as shooters are concerned.

[ikral]

Naughty Dog deserved their credibility well, so they are the one to trust. Masters of the Games they are.

[lonix]

didnt read this article not going to the guy doesnt even know what SPU stands for
symetric processing unit

[PS360PCROCKS]

I really hate that "insert random % here" that we're utilizing. Gimme a break, if your smart enough to know your using 60% wouldn't it make sense to use 100%. I'm not saying this game can't, but every few months some person will come along and claim more and more or less and less.

[Dark General]

I don't honestly care how Uncharted looks. Honestly i never really liked the art direction of the original Uncharted. I don't know why, it just looked too... Cartoonish while being realistic models. I just didn't like that look. But the gameplay and story are superb. I expect the same level of awesome in Uncharted 2. That and improved animations (the animations were to die for).

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune still remains my favorite game this gen.

[she00win99]

i cannot believe uncharted already sold 3 million.. that's great

[360 man]

wat do u mean already sold 3 million its been out well over 2 years

[she00win99]

less than a year ago it only sold more than a million..

[Lazarus69]

@360man,i don't see how the game came out over two years ago wouldn't that of made it a launch title

[WaitStation 3]

it dropped in nov.07 it hasnt been 2 years

it hasn't sold 3 million yet either, its still at 2.5 million

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

[zainkool]

The first one was a great game and the 2nd one is gone be better

[Mizz_mai]

...really and truly i doubt that uncharted will look better than killzone......but hey when did hype hurt anyone

[WaitStation 3]

This is a gameplay screen

http://i587.photobucket.com...

[yog-sothot]

I think Uncharted 2 might indeed be even more beautiful than Killzone 2 (different anyway), not because the "100% use of the SPU" bullshit though. After all, the Naughty dog game will be released several months later and Uncharted 1 is still a graphical masterpiece. And in march 2010, God of War 3 might raise the bar once again. Maybe in the end of 2010 the Team ICO game will be even more impressive ! That's sweet ! And after that, Killzone 3 will be dropped like an atomic bomb for our eyes.

don' forget that Sony studios share technology, so all the work on Killzone 2 will be used by other games in the (bright) future !

[demolitionX]

if they can deliver the screenshots as in-game they showed a month ago. uncharted for sure surpassed KZ in graphics

[McLuvn]

I like this bar raising game. Full of win.

[Karum]

Umm the Uncharted trailer at the VGA's wasn't pre rendered but actually real time in game footage. In fact here's a link saying so.

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/n...

Oh and it's VGA awards, AVG is an antivirus, not an industry awards event.

Is this guy supposed to be a journalist?

Any of the muppets at Cnet put this guy to shame.

[jerethdagryphon]

even if it as cut scene pre rendered .
the models textures and other assets are the same as the in game stuf its even rendered using the same engine not maya or max, so a unchated cutscene is a recording of scripted in game assets :)

[commando34]

Sir Ken, I want you to shut up and leave this site because im so close to just going crazy because of you...if you've seen the graphic comparison for Resident Evil 5, ITS THE SAME! you cant say that versions better.....I guess that means you got Killowned huh?

[heyheyhey]

i can't believe you fail to see the sarcasm

/facepalm

[jhani]

Even though its nice to hear that developers are pushing the ps3, i am a bit scared that people are coming out stating using 100% of the spu and cell in ps3. I mean if they are going to have a 10 life circle and support ps3 in that time-frame, how will the games look in 2 years time? I mean there wont be any difference on games on the visual department that will be coming out in the nest 3 or 4 years? Sony might probably release a new ps console. But if this new console will be based upon the architecture of the ps3 using the cell, developers will max out the ps4 in its first year! Maybe Sony are pushing their first-party folks to hard to really give some credibility on their claims of a "Super console"? MIster so called "Crazy Ken"?

[omodis420]

You can't start going around stating the Leaked PS4 tech like its fact. Sony denied it. So until you here a real announcement is 5 years just stop.

[farhsa2008]

uncharted could have better graphics than killzone?
who is this good for?...PS3 owners, haha, suck it 360 fans.

[eliasg]

resident evil 5 on xbox360 already looks better from this crappy screenshots, you droids lost your mind...

[trancefreak]

What does your comment add to this thread and to uncharted 2. serious no need to defend the re5 xbox version when this has nothing to do with it.

[ps3andmets]

R u kiddin me? U must be blind.

[LorD]

whoever runs that page, needs to remove the ugly picture of the dude smack on the top banner.

Yikes.

[omodis420]

Don't be a jerk. He is a cool guy.

[omodis420]

I like The Hip Hop Gamer. I really do. But would it kill him to site his sources?

[omodis420]

I read an article a few weeks ago that stated that Uncharted 2 would basically look the same. Anyone else remember that. It was right when news up Uncharted 2 first started to hot. With the first screen shots and all.

[TrevorPhillips]

Uncharted was good game looks abit better then gears 1 but not 2 but i dont thnk uncharted 2 will look better then killzone 2 i still rekon 2 best looking games of 09 are Resident evil 5 and Killzone 2!

[Crueltylizer]

I am glad if it just improves a bit from the first one. The uncanny graphics where amazing.

[Chopkilla]

this just makes me all more excited for God Of War 3!

[Shane Kim]

This is IT B!TCHES!! Dd you Microslaves honestly think that ANYBODY on the console market has ANYTHING on SONY? BAAAAHAHAHHHAA. Man MS and Ninty has ALOT to learn from SONY. The amount of quality games that is on the PS3 and are coming in the near future are second to none. No other first party developer can produce the games that Sony's are.

[trancefreak]

Uncle shane FTw. You speak the truth my friend haa

[BLUR111]

Shane Kim my favorite little leprecon

I see you logged in your other account

[AR35]

this is going to be a very good year for SONY!! Man this game by it self it going to be CRAZY!

[TheOutsider]

Your games get BETTER and BETTER!! stop because the BOTS might commit suicide! HA HA!

[bviperz]

Every game played on the PS3 will be need to be equal or go higher. I know I will get spoiled because of KZ2.

[THC CELL]

i wonder how much power in the ps3 used for Red faction ?

red faction on xbox 360 100% and looks beyond crap

[GUNS N SWORDS]

.............nathan looks the same as he did in the first game. the only difference is that hes got a little bit of a beard now.

http://ve3d.ign.com/images/...

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

his texture detail has probably gotten a 0.2 percent increase.

[solidsnakus]

ive seen the screenshots in GI and no, killzone owns uncharteds graphics.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Graphics aren't everything, it's all the processes in the background that take a lot of the system resources. So yes, Uncharted 2 could very well be using more resources and doing more even if KZ2 visually looks better. Everyone thinks KZ2 looks as good as Crysis, but Crysis owns KZ2 in that it take a lot more resources and does alot more than KZ2 does.

[FFXI101]

"Uncharted 2 Among Thieves is bigger than the first with a deeper cover system that may even surpass that of Gears of War 2. Cliff Bleszinski said himself, that he admires the Uncharted cover system and wished that gears could’ve been a bit smoother." To hear this from Cliff.

I'm playing Uncharted again, it's been a while but I still have lots fun to play it and looking forward to the new one.

[drdistracto707]

cliffy b, being honest, thats a laugh!

[Mc187]

And U2 will be a first day buy, ND is an excellent studio.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Yano i can believe it, im not just talking graphicly (where not all graphic whores)

but i mean body animation wise..

Wow i remember when i first played uncharted, for me it was the first of a small handfull of games (at the time) to truely show what "next-gen" ment, the story was amazing, the body animation was, AND STILL IS the best i have ever seen it still blows me away, the graphics astounding just everything about it awesome

Im way more hyped for uncharted 2 than killzone 2

[Foxgod]

Yawn*...

More boring games for the ps3 that lack personality and depth.
When is the ps3 going super saiyan ?
Talking about % was cool when you where an 11 year old watching DBZ, now its lame.

Does the ps3 have a power level ?

[gersh]

Wow, I admire your psychic abilities. Bravo!

[lewis]

could or could not............

[ChickeyCantor]

And kojima said he was using everything too.
Efficient programming gets you much further.

I take it slook good, but to claim it makes full use...i doubt that.

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but hey hype hype hype that game!
Cause we all know gamers are jumping for the new metal shader
/sarcasm

[pshizle]

cant wait to get the game

[skatezero246]

If ND does indeed surpass killzone 2 in graphics then, I can honestly say I'll be one proud ps3 owner the first uncharted is easily one of my top-five favorite games of all time, that game was just brilliant, and I'm positive killzone 2 will be taking one of my current top-five favorite games place come 2-27-09. Both killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 will be day one purchases for me.

I think uncharted 2 will surpass killzone 2 in graphics because if you notice the ps3 is indeed starting to show it's true potential and the first three games to showcase this include: Uncharted, MGS4, and now killzone 2, and the games to follow will be GT5, GOW3, and Uncharted 2. Disagree if you like everyone is entitled to their opinions

[Colieo_87]

i sure hope co-op is implemented in this game.. the first one was a little short in gameplay.. more hrs please....