When I Asked For Better Value From PS Plus, I Didn't Mean Movies

Sony's attempt to justify the PS Plus price hike with the lackluster lineup and features of Sony Pictures Core leaves a lot to be desired.

[ABizzel1]

I don't think it's an issue to add movies to the subscription. However, it is an issue when it's forced on the base version increasing the price for everyone.

While I get millions of people use their consoles as their Entertainment Hub, it is still a gaming console first, and the subscription service should reflect such. Now if this was part of PS+ Extra or Premium, okay understandable, but it should be forced on the base subscription service.

It's also again shows that Sony just completely LACKS a marketing team in touch with global standards. That is one area where Microsoft and I'd even say Nintendo are clearly ahead. If you're going to do something like this, then don't just hike price and then stealth drop mid movies or early access. Have a presser around all of this, and again stick it in the Premium Tier. Have something like:

1. Purchase all Sony Pictures Movies launch Day 1 alongside theaters (Premium Only)
2. Sony Ad-based Music Streaming Service for quick access to background music (Premium Only)
3. Sony Ad-based Exclusive Entertainment Content, sports, concerts, shows, etc... Live and via VR (Premium Only)
4. Enhanced PS1 and PS2 Classics offering Trophy support improved resolution and textures (Premium & Extra)
5. Access to EA Play through PS Game Catalog (Premium & Extra)
6. 1 additional "Monthly Game" Exclusively for PSVR or PSVR2 game per month (Premium & Extra)

At that point it's understandable raising the price on those two specific tiers and most people wouldn't care, because if you want Premium Entertainment for the entire household get the Premium Tier for even $199 without a bunch of complaints. If you want the best overall gaming service PlayStation has to offer without the need for movies, music, and TV content then get the Extra Tier. If you want a basic low cost service with monthly games and online play then get Essentials for $60 or even acceptable at $70, not $80 for content GAMERS don't care about.

[DigitallyAfflicted]

I will let my wallet do the talking! Only language corpo’s do understand…

[DaCajun]

Exactly, people need better self control when it comes to these corporate BS, no matter which are being anti-consumer. I don't get the fanboy war garbage.

I see remarks saying but M$ raised there prices, that is not a justified reason for another company to follow suit. That's just a poor excuse for any consumer to have to justify added cost with very little benefit. Neither is justified except in the minds of fanboys. 8 months left to my sub. I've already built my first pc in years. Everything is crossplay now, so the benefit of closed console systems to keep the pc cheaters out is no longer. If I'm forced to play with/against pc since you can't find mp matches in most games with crossplay off. I figured I might as well be on a pc also.

I've had ps plus since the beginning and have owned every PS console. Every now and then they get greedy but this has to be the worst in years. Price hikes to consoles when usually the prices go down during the console lifespan then they raised the prices of all PSplus tiers by almost 30% but only added movies that no one asked for to the top tier only.

As of now none of the consoles are worth their sub prices to me this current generation, maybe next if there will be another. Hopefully, because competition is always good.

[S2Killinit]

Except MS also raised gamepass pricing but didnt add movies. Why can’t Sony do what MS did?

[PassNextquestion]

Microsoft just spent $69 billion on a publisher who's content will be on gamepass.

[GamerRN]

Microsoft literally is soon to add the highest selling FPS, and an entire catalog of games...

Gamepass has crazy value now! For slightly over $100 a year, you get Call of Duty included, plus all these other great first part titles, ass well as EA games, and many other 3rd party games

[JackBNimble]

Didn't games pass increase by $1 a month?
Adding movies wasn't enough to keep me from canceling my subscription. I can only speak for myself, but as a gamer I would rather have better value for games not movies.

[DigitallyAfflicted]

It's not comparison on who deserves my money more, if I don't think what's on offer from both Sony and MS no one gets my money. The basic subscription is forced on to us as it is...

This really comes to every individual, you have to choose what is the right subscription and if it's worth it. Us trying to justify corporations for charging more is silly, if you even doubt price hike being justified then don't pay for it.

[S2Killinit]

At JackNimble
No, gamepass raised its price and is more expensive than PSPlus.

[dumahim]

"However, it is an issue when it's forced on the base version increasing the price for everyone."

And this is a big problem with subscription services. My DirecTV Steam price went up $10 this month. Oh, but I get an unlimited DVR now! Great. I rarely ever needed more than 6, so the 20 we've had was more than enough. Same thing with Amazon Prime. They tout all these features you have, but in reality, all I want is the free shipping and some of their TV shows. Instead I'm stuck footing the bill for all these other services I'll never touch.

[Agent75]

Couldn’t agree more. It’s like shopping for a suit, but the suit goes up in price because it comes with a waistcoat that you didn’t want. These subscriptions need investigating. Another thing you have to look out for is the likes of Netflix. They advertise shows then you find they’re missing episodes and seasons, yet the price goes up. Laughable.

[dumahim]

Oh great. Just found out even Prime video is going to have ads next year.

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[crazyCoconuts]

I think the quality of the games they have been giving has been really good, I can see why they'd raise the price. I just feel like, for people on a budget, there should be a choice that allows online play with no free games. But where you can continue to play the games you already claimed

[JackBNimble]

Quality games? I get that gaming is subjective but there are very few games out of the whole catalogue that I found worth playing. The price increase on psn was just solidified the reason I needed to cancel.

[crazyCoconuts]

Yeah, on essential they've been giving out good games. Latest being Callisto Protocol, Disco Elysium, etc. And that's the cheapest tier, which is what I assume everyone is upset about because it's needed for online.

[DigitallyAfflicted]

I agree. Just like it was on ps3

[Profchaos]

100 movies from the past 40 years that were most likely free on crackle (Sony owned ad based streaming service) I've taken a look there's some ok things but it's still a large list of old movies that I'm sure pretty much everyone has seen by this point.

So as for value it's not very valuable and you're required to rent it but anything that isn't on that list of 100.

I best this cost them almost nothing to build an app that serves a few freebies when they were already going to use it to distribute movies at a price

[ModsDoBetter]

100 relatively old movies*
& the OPPORTUNITY TO BUY Gran Turismo before other streaming platforms.

For The Players ❤️

[ModsDoBetter]

Lol some utter psychopath is short circuiting and making several alt accounts to reply. 😂

The truth in my comment musf have hit home. 😇

[Lexreborn2]

Core is obviously a relaunch of video that added a category to benefit PlayStation subscribers. The service allows you to build a digital streaming library WITH the perk of select movies being available to watch.

It’s weird to me how people scream they want options and value and anytime it comes they act like a victim forced into a corner.

Nothing about core is forced on you, you don’t HAVE to utilize it at all. Just like you don’t have to watch every show/movie on Netflix, max, Hulu etc. you never hear anyone complain they released old movies on those platforms. But somehow you complain here, just be quiet.

[Amplitude]

You do HAVE to pay for it if you want the most basic of features Steam gives you for free though. Something as simple as playing p2p games online.

May as well lock away the ability to play single player without a sub, increase the price some more and add eBooks.

[Rynxie]

They raised the prices of PS+ and included Core to justify it. So, yes, it is being forced on us.

I got an even better 4k smart tv recently. Replaced my smart 4k TV from 5 years ago. Since my old 4k TV was old, it didn't do things well, like the web browser was slow, and most streaming apps stop supporting it, and sometimes, it would have hiccups streaming from apps that did support it. So, long story short, I used my PS5 to do my entertainment streaming. However now, with my new TV, I went back to using my TV for streaming and web browsing. I don't need my PS5 to do any of that anymore.

[Nitrowolf2]

Only the price has been jacked up on everyone and that's the "extra" they threw in

No one complains (well they do) about those other streaming services because they have thousands of thousands of shows and movies to pick from. This is just 100, super old, with probably 5-7 movies that are "big" but everyone and their mother has seen since the 90's

And going back to that complaining, people complain about Netflix all the time now because of how much they've been bloating it up with rip off foreign films

[Lexreborn2]

So let’s get this clear, the “core” service can be downloaded and not have the plus selection. It’s a movie storefront, the plus side of core has a current rotation of 100 movies old or not they are starting the service just like when Netflix started its streaming it had a terrible collection to its dvd selection.

You guys acting like they have unlimited rights to stream every movie on their platform/storefront. Again yall being ridiculous

[porkChop]

"just like when Netflix started its streaming it had a terrible collection to its dvd selection."

Netflix didn't fund/make their own content at that time. Streaming was also a largely unknown and untested market so it wasn't easy to get licensing. That was a bit different.

"You guys acting like they have unlimited rights to stream every movie on their platform/storefront."

Sony Pictures, formerly Columbia Pictures, is one of the Big Five film studios. They've made tons of films and tv series. They literally have a big catalog of their own in-house content.

[Lexreborn2]

I’m going to keep my response simple. Not all movies have a universal contract, we don’t know the limitations in play even internally.

The service is a rebrand of a movie storefront ADDED to ps plus. That’s no different then ea access etc. Sony pictures don’t share the same agreements as Sony PlayStation.

Complaining about a new platform offering something to you at no extra cost makes no sense. Just like PlayStation plus getting games over time it will more than likely be the same for core.

Y’all making a bigger deal out of absolutely nothing.

[-Foxtrot]

Now you can watch great Sony films like Morbius, The Emoji Movie and The Dark Tower again, and again and again…

[Abear21]

Added value or just another way for Sony to market and push their products across revenue streams.

[DivineHand125]

Guys I know I can't tell you how to spend your money but for anyone who is on the fence about continuing their PS subscription, I ask that you don't renew. I have been a loyal subscriber since 2016 but this is too much BS for my taste. I don't even play online that much and the main reason I kept the subscription is for cloud saves, monthly games (which I hardly play or already own) and store discounts.

I usually renew around the holiday season but with this increase when they apply their usual 25% discount the price will be back at $60 and something tells be that the offer will only be available for persons who are not currently subscribed to ps plus. If I get the urge to play online games, I will do so on other platforms until something is done about that subscription fee.

[DOMination-]

Its still a good service. Subscribing for a year costs the same as 2x new Sony releases.

Over the next year, you're going to get Spider-Man 2, Ragnarök and HFW (actually think the latter is already available?) That alone pays for the service for me.. plus a whole bunch of third party games.

If you HAVE to play games on day one, then this is never going to be the service for you. But if that's not a dealbreaker (and honestly, unless it's a multiplayer game all your mates are playing, I don't see the need to rush out and spend the big bucks on new games), then this gives you pretty much everything you need.

[wesnytsfs]

LOL, yea this is on par with the tv stuff from the XBOX One Generation. Nice and all but you buy a console for gaming not movies or tv.

[anast]

Adding more to what is already the best value in console gaming.

[maniacmayhem]

I wouldn't mind this if Sony movies were actually good. I'm sure more than half the movies offered are already on Tubi or some other free site with ads every five minutes.

[PhillyDonJawn]

Yeah idk what they were thinking

[Trilithon]

You used to be able to rent new movies through PS store and they got rid of it. Now the easiest way to rent new movies online is though amazon prime or youtube.

[DefenderOfDoom2]

So for personally, the majority of big budget moves and video games over the last 15 years have not been great . Again, why I enjoy PPP is for the indie , lower budget video games that do not have season passes and badly placed micro transactions. If Sony or any Triple A video games studios come out with a game that I really want to play ,I will just buy it during launch window.

[Abear21]

They should give the players what they really want. Free online AND and paid tier that offers one free Sony studios game every quarter. This would keep people paying and satisfy us cheap folks