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Activision CEO says Amazon Luna has the most game streaming customers

Activision-Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick believes Amazon Luna is the largest cloud gaming service in the world by virtue of 200m Amazon Prime subscribers.

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VenomUK389d ago (Edited 389d ago )

The person who wrote this article Derek Strickland is a complete insult to the craft of journalism because he has blindly copied a PR statement from Activision's CEO who obviously has a horse in the race, and provided no real context - nor did he do any FACT-CHECKING.

Strickland wrote: "Since Prime has over 200 million subscribers as of 2022, it could be technically correct to say Luna is the largest cloud gaming provider by virtue of its convertible Prime subscriber base."

Amazon Prime may well have 200 million subscribers but it is dishonest to assume they all use the Amazon Luna cloud gaming service because clearly Prime video streaming is the core feature that people use and it's readily available on multiple hardware devices via an app. Besides all that Luna is not even available in all countries that have Prime! It's only available in the US, UK, Canada and Germany.

Shit articles like Dereck Strickland's should be taken down.

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rippermcrip389d ago

Maybe they updated the article, but the article most certainly does provide a lot of context and explains what you said and more.

343_Guilty_Spark389d ago (Edited 389d ago )

Well the CMA uses all GamePass and Gold subscriptions for determining how many cloud gaming customers Xbox has even if only 1-10% actually even use Xcloud.

VenomUK389d ago

@rippermcrip. The original story has since been updated. The author said he deleted a tweet for the story. He says: "Hey all, I decided to delete the Luna tweet (should have done it earlier!) because not all Amazon Prime subscribers have access to Luna. Turns out there's tons of countries and regions where Luna is not available. Apologies for the mix-up."
https://twitter.com/DeekeTw...

The article was updated and badly. Instead of correcting the incorrect information, the incorrect information was left in and then the correct information was added. The unchallenged claim is "Since Prime has over 200 million subscribers as of 2022, it could be technically correct to say Luna is the largest cloud gaming provider by virtue of its convertible Prime subscriber base."

It's only further down the article that you get the section that begins "More context is needed, though. Luna is not available in all countries, so it's not proper to say all Prime subscribers are also Luna users..."This was added later.

The correct way to fix the story is add context to the incorrect claim made by TweakTown.

closed_account389d ago

Lol, I'm a Prime subscriber and didn't even know about Luna. I mean, I've heard the name, but never looked into it. I had no idea it was included w Prime membership.

*checks* can't use it in my country

How many people actually know it's included w their Prime and use the service? I'm guessing many others don't even know it exists, despite being subscribed to Prime.

EvertonFC389d ago

Didn't even know Amazon Luna was a thing lol, can't say I've ever seen it on my prime.

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RpgSama389d ago

Amazon is not the one trying to buy Activision, so the regulators do not care, plus, having 200 million Amazon Prime Subscribers and saying that equates to your cloud gaming service user base is very reaching.

At this point you can say Netflix which is starting to release crap games is the biggest of them all.

EvertonFC389d ago (Edited 389d ago )

The new valiants heart wasn't crap on Netflix, ONLY game I've ever played on a mobile though.

Vits389d ago

Well, technically speaking Amazon's Luna has the potential to be the largest streaming service. But I doubt it is right now, given the limited availability.

ChronoJoe389d ago

It's problem is that it doesn't have much leverage over the industries games. So it will be hard for amazon to gain a foothold without making many acquisitions. They need better content, a similar problem to Microsoft but much more severe in Amazon's case, they're a long way off.

porkChop389d ago

That's technically true but Amazon doesn't even advertise Luna. No one knows it exists.

Double_O_Revan389d ago

I recently saw a banner ad on the home screen of my Fire TV and thought to myself "omg I completely forgot that existed."

EvertonFC389d ago

I didn't and I've had prime for 2 years lol

ModsDoBetter389d ago

Tried it out now that it released here in the UK.
Very laggy despite a high speed fibre connection.

CrimsonWing69389d ago

I’ve ran into no lag on my end. I’m in the US though. I don’t have fiber, but my download speed is 400 mb/s.

What games were lagging for you? I’d like to see if I run into this since none of the games I played had any lag or latency issues.

ModsDoBetter389d ago

Fortnite & Resi 2.

Streaming won’t compete with fully installed games for a long time imo.

I was an early adopter of Stadia and that was pretty bad too. Like the fps wasn’t too inconsistent but the resolution would drop like a bomb so often.

CrimsonWing69389d ago (Edited 389d ago )

@olMyerslo

Interesting.

I played Control and there were 0 input lag, frame dips, stuttering, or any issues I could see. I was really impressed with it.

I literally couldn’t have told you the difference between playing a fully installed game or streaming. Then again,I don’t know your situation, like if multiple people on your network are using bandwidth, your signal strength, etc.

I didn’t know Resident Evil 2 was on there. I’ll check that out and see if I run into any issues.

343_Guilty_Spark389d ago

UK has notoriously poor Internet speeds.

ModsDoBetter389d ago (Edited 389d ago )

Does it?

That’s news to me as the UK is currently sitting 34th out of 220 countries surveyed for average country-wide internet speeds in 2022.

“Notoriously poor” would imply this is something talked about but I have never heard any complaints relating to our speeds compared with other countries.

My current speed is 1Gbps, for example.

CantThinkOfAUsername389d ago

Speed isn't the metric that matters in data streaming. Latency, Jitter and Packet Loss are. Once you meet the minimum bandwidth ('speed') requirements, the others become the playing factors (no pun intended).

There's also server-side ('cloud') issues that would provide a terrible user experience.

1nsomniac389d ago

The stupid levels are off the scale here..

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YouTube Will Probe Employees Following The PlayStation State of Play Leak

YouTube is probing its employees following the PlayStation State of Play leak that revealed all announcements ahead of the presentation.

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gold_drake15h ago

i didnt even know there was a leak ha.

Relientk7710h ago

This is news to me. I had no idea the games from the State of Play got leaked.

Jin_Sakai2h ago

I seen the list posted and instantly got excited for Astro Bot. Everything else was meh.

CrimsonWing693h ago

I’m pretty sure leaks or not, by the end of the show people will still be disappointed. The only highlight for me was MH: Wilds… everything else was mid to forgettable. Hope them HaaS games you got lined up really work out for you, Sony. Everyone asking for Bloodborne Remake, Wolverine, and, uh, well other games like that could’ve made this epic. Instead we get Concord, some derivative Souls-like games, that were fine looking, and a Silent Hill 2 Remake with horrible character designs and janky combat animations… great.

rayford152h ago

I wasn’t disappointed it was a solid B

TOTSUKO31m ago

For a State of play it was actually alright. People are overshadowing it because they want to cancel Sony to high hell for Gaas which is not fair for the other devs who revealed great looking games that were just shown. I get it you don’t like gaas don’t buy it. If it sells well good for the people who had interest no big deal? If you are a PlayStation fan what’s wrong with PlayStation trying to cater every gamer? I don’t understand that smh

ravens521h ago

Where Winds Meet and Ballad of Antara both looked good. Not to mention Astro Bot. It was a decent show. For me personally it was a 7. I'm sure to some people it was actually really good cause they'd play all those games. 🤷🏽 Personal taste

MrNinosan28m ago

I wasn't dissapointed.
And no, everyone doesn't want a Bloodborne Remake. There is probably very few who's actually asking for it, but the ones who do are loud on internet.

CrimsonWing6919m ago(Edited 19m ago)

Oh, my mistake. It’s definitely not one of the most requested games when it comes to remakes with news stories talking about it 🙄

https://comicbook.com/gamin...

https://www.gamingbible.com...

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/...

https://gamerant.com/fromso...

Silly me. It’s just a very few that are actually wanting it…

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Get Ready to Armor Up in The Epic Games Store's Weekly Freebie

The Epic Games Store has yet another free game, and it's a pretty damn good one.

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Sony shares big new PS Plus stat, but not the one we want to see

PlayStation Plus has improved the split of PS4 and PS5 players on its priciest tiers, but Sony continues to hide total subscriber numbers.

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mandf7h ago

lol acting like it’s equivalent to ms numbers

Mr Logic7h ago

Uh...They're definitely not equivalent.

"Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service now has 34 million subscribers."

"the total number of PS Plus subscribers across all tiers was 47.4 million"

darthv727h ago(Edited 6h ago)

That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN.

bloop3h ago

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is Darth.

darthv722h ago

^^it's not supposed to be bloop.... it's just an interesting observation.

Einhander19721h ago

darthv72

"That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN."

Have you ever heard of a PC before? I hear they are pretty popular.

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shinoff21836h ago(Edited 6h ago)

What. Definitely more os plus subscribers but that makes sense due to actual console sales

Darth the difference between the bases are huge your right but you gotta think. Ps players buy more games, where as the Xbox base relies on gamepass for their gaming. So it makes perfect sense

darthv725h ago(Edited 5h ago)

What makes perfect sense though? You say PS players buy more games... so then logically there should be more PS+ subscribers given the increased number of online multiplayer games in the PS4 generation alone. The PS4 was the first time that + was required for online play much like Gold was for 360 users.

Keep in mind we are talking subscribers, not simply XB/PS users. I assume you meant to say offline single player games, which is most likely true as well. That gen also saw a significant increase in games with an online component comparted to the previous gen.

victorMaje5h ago

I for one will be going back to essential at the next renewal. When I feel a game is good & right up my alley, I’ll check trusted reviews & just buy it.

jznrpg4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I have the top tier until 2028 as they gave me a massive discount for all the years I had left but I’ll most likely go to essential as well. I buy my games but my kids do use the service occasionally. They do prefer to own their games as well since any game can leave the rental service at some point and they don’t like that idea. They mostly use it to demo games then ask me to buy games if they really like it.

meganick3h ago

I would like to see Sony add a fourth tier of PS Plus for people who just want to be able to play games online without any of the perks like monthly games, store discounts, or anything like that, and it should cost $20 annually, $30 maximum. There’s no way I’m paying $80 just to play games online. Even the original $60 fee was too much, and I would often wait for sales to re-up my subscription.