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Value Is The Focus Of Xbox Next Generation

A conclusion can be drawn after this massive blowout of next generation Xbox news. Value is the key factor for Xbox going forward.

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masterfox1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

Its current value is very poor in content, MS can you please show me what a next gen game look like to you? , and please not another Craig.

chrisx1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

Yeah we all see through the B.S of articles like this, it's ridiculous. This is ps4/xbone gen literally repeating itself.

crazyCoconuts1345d ago

And the claim that some make that Game Pass is undisputably the "best value in gaming" is just wrong. When you can play and stream at least twice the number of games for 1/3 - 1/2 the cost of Game Pass on PS Now, that statement is false.
Also you can do free 2 play online without PS Plus. Playstation has the better value and the better games. A $299 console changes nothing.

darthv721345d ago

So which Xbox are you going to get Chris? I mean its the reason you comment so much in XB related articles. You have a strong closet attraction to Xbox so just come out already. Be honest with yourself and stand up to those who would look down on you for admitting you really do like them. Im sure more people would stand up with you. Like i said... come to the dark side. We have cookies.

BillyG0AT1345d ago

Do things like this annoy you?

dantesparda1345d ago

Value?! Yuck, the XS is more like a worthless POS. It shouldnt exist, its pointless and WILL hold the gen back.

LOGICWINS1345d ago

Admit it Chris. You want that thick black hunk of TFLOPS in your living room! 🤣

ABizzel11345d ago

Value is always great and a good reason to buy a console. However, games are the most important reason to buy a console, and without any AAA 1st IP's games launching until sometime in 2021 (Halo nad hopefully Forza) nor any new AAA 1st party games launching until more than likely early 2022, the value Xbox is offering is only towards their existing fans who stuck with them throughout the XBO generation, those of us who are generally multiplatform / omniplatform owners, and maybe to gamers of other platforms holiday 2022 and by then the PS5 lead will be too great.

I think MS has a great console with the Series X, and a decent console with the Series S that offers as they said and as Xbox Execs tune has changed to, value. They just have to get the games.

Koolaidude1345d ago

Was there a need to have literally in that sentence? Unless you’re Jesus, then you can’t predict a gen.

Army_of_Darkness1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

MS: focus on getting as many subscribers as possible!!! All I care about is taking money out of the customer's pocket legally every month with as little effort as possible!

Sony: we need more great exclusives at a faster rate!

Unspoken1344d ago

Bravo MS for looking at the current trends and offering choice to consumers. Love it!

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Gunstar751345d ago

MS Flight Sim looks pretty next gen.

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potatoseal1345d ago

Focus should be on massive AAA games. But that will never happen again. Not with all their eggs in Gamepass.

moriarty18891345d ago

agreed. Gamepass is all Phil cares about. They forgot what a AAA game is completely. Just gamepass filler and indies to justify subs.

aconnellan1345d ago

"They forgot what a AAA game is completely. Just gamepass filler and indies to justify subs"

I guess you missed Flight Simulator's release

AngelicIceDiamond1345d ago

Ever wild, New IP from The Initiative rumored AAA perfect dark also say hi.

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RightFootGames1345d ago

AngelicIceDiamond

Yea, but when will those be out 22-24 at the soonest?

Microsoft can't even show gameplay of any of their games that how far out they are. Their most finished game was apparently Halo and look how that turned out. And Fable only showed a logo because it hasn't even started production.

Seriously can you ever think of a generation where a console maker tried to sell their next gen console by showing mainly last gen games aka Gears 5 that they keep demoing. They aren't doing that because they want to they are doing it because they literally have nothing next gen to show.

If Sony announces some new big hits tomorrow and announces release windows/dates for the games they have shown so far it's game over for Microsoft.

People were telling you in 2017-2018 when Microsoft had no games that it was going to be a long term problem for them but loyal xbox people argued now here we are and nothing except Halo and Forza even seem likely before 22 and most of that unless they rush just to put something out look like 23-24 and beyond.

Sony has been producing games non-stop releasing 3-4 AAA games year after year plus minor games and VR games and publishing indies. And if that's not enough they have said they want to increase the ammount of games they release.

AngelicIceDiamond1345d ago

@Problem rumor is right. We don't know what game it is. It could a existing IP or something new. Either way it's AAA from a AAA studio. You're right 2 games that were made previous to MS acquisition. We gotta see what they come up with completely under MS

Unspoken1344d ago

GamePass is a hit, why would you not care about it. Sour grapes?

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aconnellan1345d ago

"Never happen again"

Did you miss Flight Simulator's launch the other week?

Tacoboto1345d ago

Flight Simulator is less a game and totally a simulation platform intended to last a decade if not more.

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Bathyj1345d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Thanks, I haven't laughed like that in a while

AngelicIceDiamond1345d ago

Hell Blade 2, Avowed and Fable say hi.

potatoseal1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

They aren't AAA size. Fable is most likely going to be a GAAS game which is a horrible idea. If Hell Blade 2 is anything like the first game, then NO, it's not AAA at all, not even close. Avowed? Maybe, but it worries me with MS behind it. They want it to live on Gamepass for a decade. They want to drip feed mediocre content into the same GAAS game. Basically, MS has proven NOTHING. Nothing, but Gamepass. Their eyes are all over it, and Gamepass means lesser quality than Sony's massive AAA exclusives.

crazyCoconuts1345d ago

They can't say hi yet - they're far from even existing. They say " "

RgR1345d ago (Edited 1345d ago )

We've seen close to nothing. And I literally mean nothing. They've barely peaked their heads let alone a "hi"

Trailers do not equal a good game.
The difference between MS showing trailers and Sony showing trailers is track record. We can be pretty darn sure that Sonys games will turn out good but with MS we have absolutely no idea what will happen.

I do want an awesome fable game though. It is the most exciting franchise MS has for me other than possibly State of Decay 3

TheProblem1345d ago

All 3 of those are just cgi pipe dreams until MS can actually prove they will be quality releases. Probably at least 3 years from now

FlavorLav011345d ago

None of which will be out in the next year or more, along with Halo. Keep bragging

AngelicIceDiamond1345d ago

@Potato hmm nice fairy tale. Go argue with MS what kind of games they are and see what they tell you. But nice attempt at down play applause.

@Crazy that's not the argument. He said they aren't focusing on AAA games. The July event says woefully the opposite. Doesn't matter what we've seen because that wasn't the argument potato made.

RightFootGames1345d ago

Going by job listing Fable hasn't even started production.

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Nyxus1345d ago

Value for me is quality rather than quantity.

Godmars2901345d ago

"Buyer Beware" should be the focus of "Next Gen."

All digital consoles, from MS and Sony both, which limit owner to only be able to buy from console makers. Not to mention "always" online.

This is the XB1 launch all over again, even if its a slow vs a fast boil.

RazzerRedux1345d ago

If I am looking for value then I'll go with mobile gaming. I'll take quality.

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PlayStation Store "Planet of the Discounts" Sale Kicks Off, Over 2,000 Items Listed

Sony has launched the PlayStation Store "Planet of the Discounts" sale today, and this one includes a lot of AAA titles.

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OtterX8h ago

Major kudos to Mp1st for these nicely organized, collapsible tabs. This really is helpful when sifting through this many titles.

Thank you! 🙏🤜🤛

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definitely grabbed some goodies ha

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IGN Entertainment acquires Eurogamer, GI, VG247, Rock Paper Shotgun and more

IGN Entertainment has acquired the Gamer Network family of digital brands for an undisclosed sum. As a result of the acquisition, some redundancies have been made across the UK-based organisation.

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darthv721d 22h ago

Well this can only mean one thing... more job layoffs even in the publication industry.

Jin_Sakai1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

“Layoffs occuring“

Yep. IGN now has a monopoly in the gaming media.

“As a result of the acquisition, some redundancies have been made across the UK-based organisation.”

“Gamer Network's publications are GamesIndustry.biz, Eurogamer (including six local language editions), Rock Paper Shotgun, VG247 and Dicebreaker. The business also holds shares in Outside Xbox, Digital Foundry and Hookshot (which operates Nintendolife, PushSquare, PureXbox and Time Extension).”

“IGN Entertainment is the division of Ziff Davis that includes IGN, MapGenie, HowLongToBeat, and Humble Bundle. It has acquired the websites from PAX and New York Comic-Con organiser ReedPop, which initially bought the Gamer Network business in 2018.“

Jingsing1d 20h ago

When say IGN you mean Microsoft's chief propagandist.

VenomUK1d 12h ago

Surprising news, also a little sad as the magazine era is over and the website era is slowly coming to an end. But it must be said that many of the bastards who work at these places have operated as a mafia to control opinion on not only what can be said about games, but who can be allowed to talk about them, and what can be allowed to feature in them or not. As said above, redundancies are coming, Eurogamer pays the highest salaries for a team of staff who for some their output is minimal. Eurogamer also campaigned against Hogwarts Legacy and refused to review it -, the site took a hit. PAX has probably thought to cut its losses. Some job layoffs? I know of some of these people and they took pride in excluding - I will shed no tears.

S2Killinit1d 11h ago

This is good news for Microsoft. IGN is like their advertisement arm.

Abear211d 1h ago

This is exactly what Microsoft needs to better their image, control over the narrative by having the same message come from different colors umbrellas that are all really made by the same company.

Simon_the_sorcerer1d ago

You're right about every single thing that you said...

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-Foxtrot1d 19h ago

All this means is a collective hive mind when reporting the news

They’ll discuss with each other how to handle topics and what kind of headlines to go with so they can fire round after round of whatever point they want to make

And the sad thing is over the many years even to the old GameGate days they love making gamers look bad as a collective. Anything for a hit piece.

victorMaje1d 19h ago

Narrative control. I don’t like this at all.
Independent reviewers will be more important than ever.

Eonjay1d 19h ago

Its actual censorship.

JEECE1d 16h ago

"They’ll discuss with each other how to handle topics and what kind of headlines to go with so they can fire round after round of whatever point they want to make."

You say this like it will be a new thing that they didn't already do.

OtterX1d 18h ago

Yea, I had actually just seen today on Linkedin that a GamesIndustry.biz guy was talking about being laid off. I didn't read all of his post, but I bet it's because of this. That's a shame to hear. :\

MestreRothN4G22h ago

All praise the late stage capitalism God, the only real One
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Babadook721h ago

Hopefully the IGNorant journalists get the boot and not EG.

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Petebloodyonion1d 20h ago

Probably Microsoft's fault!
They surely gave IGN the idea.
What's next IGN Pass?

But joke aside let's hope that this makes the news better compared to some of IGN branches

Jingsing1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Microsoft and IGN work quite closely so it isn't a stretch to say this is a move to control the gaming press to get everyone singing from the Microsoft hymn sheet. Not a good look at all. It is transparent stuff like this which is backfiring in Microsoft's face. First they want control of all the games now the media.

crazyCoconuts1d 19h ago

While there's obviously a desire to preserve add revenue and early access to review copies, I doubt there's the level of conspiracy here that you imply. I mean there's no direct link between MS and IGN right?

Petebloodyonion1d 19h ago

You're probably right!!!!
Here's MS evil plan
1) Make sure that Hellblade 2 receives inflated reviews.
2) Fire all the ppl across UK who gave Starfield the justified 6/10 reviews
3) Make sure that Game industry.biz stops giving Sony's president a tribute to spew their lies and have them talk to Sarah Bonds and Todd Howard only.
4) Control the majority of players for the GOTY award so MS wins from now on.

PPL needs to know about this!

Jingsing1d 19h ago

@crazyCoconuts The world has moved on from "direct links" as companies were easily caught doing that. These days corporations can merely operate as a cartel through shared mutual interest which is not strictly kosher either but is also more difficult to prove. It's the fundamental flaw with big corporations in the US economy today and no one in power is addressing it.

Lightning771d 17h ago

Is there proof to anything you're saying?

I've never heard of anything like this or is this N4G once again make believing stuff outta thin air again?

crazyCoconuts1d 16h ago

@jing if you have proof then I stand corrected.
Otherwise it seems like more conspiratorial thinking to explain what could otherwise be explained by natural forces of market economies.
Don't get me wrong, I believe there is bias all over and unsavory influences. I just don't think it's all centrally planned by evil villains in a smoke-filled room

S2Killinit1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I don't think anyone has proof but my personal experience corroborates what he is saying about IGN being in MS’s corner for whatever reason.

Granted, Last time I visited IGN regularly was years ago, I literally stopped once I realized the huge bias they showed in favor of xbox. Their pages for the two consoles were fundamentally different. When they would invite xbox president he was treated completely different than when Shuhei Yoshida was invited. The xbox pres was treated as one of their own. There was just too many examples, it wasn’t even much of a secret.

Jingsing1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

@Lighting77 The proof is in the pudding, "Partnerships for Events: Microsoft and IGN partner for specific events or showcases." "Sponsored Segments: Microsoft has sponsored segments within IGN's showcases." "Industry Relationships: Microsoft and IGN, as major players in the gaming industry, simply have good working relationships. This leads to collaborations on shows & joint announcements without any ownership involved." They just had an event together recently. The crux of it is money is being exchanged for favors, when that happens editorial independence goes out the window.

There was controversy about Microsoft having involvement with Polygon in the past and it proved to be real and effected their editorial bias. "Investment in Web3 Startup: Microsoft's venture capital arm, M12, participated in a $20 million funding round for Space and Time, a Web3 data warehousing platform, alongside Polygon (amongst other investors) "

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shinoff21831d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I mean news did come out the same day hellblade did.

Jk

Petebloodyonion1d 10h ago

The embargo was to make sure IGN had time to finalize the deal and make sure Eurogamer gave this game a 5 stars instead of a 3.

Man, how devious and low can Microsoft go just to promote Gamepass
I heard that it costs a ton of money to MS and they will raise the price of Gamepass by a lot of money just to compensate
true story

Christopher1d 20h ago

Oh boy! If we've learned one thing about recent news, corporate shrinkage of an industry via buyouts from those at top only leads to good things for employees and consumers!

Aloymetal1d 20h ago

100%!!
IGN and Eurogamer...A match made in heaven!!

thesoftware7301d 18h ago

Aloy!
Yes, good credible websites, I agree, it is a good match.

IGN is one of the most trusted gaming sites, weather you like it or not, but I know because they don't fit the N4G goofiness bubble, they can't be good.

shinoff21831d 15h ago

I left ign years ago. Used to be on the ign forums all the time. I left there and found here. Not sure if you remember but this place used to be pretty bad for Sony fans. 360 was king for a few years. Anyone I don't quite remember but ign changed. Whatever the fk it was it seemed for the worse.

VenomUK1d 12h ago

You’re right Christopher, just look at how N4G has improved since the buyout. .

Huey_My_D_Long22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I think the consolidation is an issue. the whole conspiracy angle n4g guys are playing at by saying MS gave IGN money for this is annoying, but overall the Consolidation is not a good move.

Christopher22h ago

I'm not on the bribing for reviews thing. Scores themselves should be ignored entirely as far as I'm concerned. But, consolidation is not helping anyone but to solidify IGN even more than ever before. Less competition at the top.

Lexreborn21d 20h ago

Ummmm not sure that’s a good thing that all these review sites are under the same umbrella. There’s no guarantee that they will maintain a non-bias opinion not paid for by the highest bidder.

MrNinosan1d 19h ago

They haven't been non-bias since GamePass was crowned "best service in gaming".

Amplitude1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

You can go much farther back than that. Never forget the Kane and Lynch 2 review drama

Edit: wait that was GameSpot. Still though - don't trust these websites for anything. Find YouTubers like who's opinions you agree with and watch them instead. GaminylGames, Minimme, Digital Foundry, GMan, whatever. All better than these ad-filled "reviews" from people who are forced to play games and score with an arbitrary number

MrNinosan1d 16h ago

@Amplitude
Digital Foundry has lost my trust ever since they got that MS money, but other than that, I'm with you.

If I'm on the fence of a game, I wait till the reviewers that share my taste has given their opinion.

Cockney1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

@MrNinosan
I didn't blame Microsoft for inviting digital foundry to expressly launch their new hardware, I mean good move by them getting a non bias technology focused influencer to gush about the series x, my issue is they took them up on their offer, taking a blatant sweetener like that really irks me, ever since I view their content with a pinch of salt

Charal1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Ouch, that does not sounds good for Eurogamer.
With so much of the industry media that will more or less follow the same editorial line, it will be harder and harder to distinguish PR from actual journalism in a couple of years.

Thinking about it, may it explain their review score for Hellblade 2?

Christopher1d 20h ago

***harder and harder to distinguish PR from actual journalism in a couple of years. ***

The age of gaming advertorials.

Petebloodyonion1d 19h ago

You're right all of this is just to promote Hellblade 2 and inflate the score.
Also the why cuts are indeed coming to Eurogamer and other UK branches because they only gave Starfield an average score.

Jingsing1d 19h ago

Shed the non US assets that are not favorable to Xbox keep the US assets that are. Microsoft are going to deliver crap and they are going to tell you their crap is good and you are going to buy it. That seems to be the strategy. At this point I just want them out of gaming as they are operating like cancer.

VenomUK1d 12h ago

YouTubers ursurped the games media years ago.

victorMaje1d 19h ago

Exactly right. No more journalists. Just 1 take regurgitated & paraphrased down the chain. Smh.

Abear211d ago

Their marketing budget is nonexistent. Instead they will publish articles for you to click on this site to get information (biased propaganda) about their games and ad dollars from you here and on their website too.

This is the new marketing strategy

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2K Games’ big Summer Game Fest announcement needs to be Mafia 4

2K Games will take the stage at Summer Game Fest, and it is about time we got some good news about the state of Mafia 4's development.

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purple1013d ago

Didn’t a leak about a max Payne remake surface a while ago?

banger883d ago

I hope it's Mafia 4. And I really hope it's set during the 70s or 80s, and not a prequel of the first game as was rumoured.

TheColbertinator2d ago

Mafia 4 would be cool if set in a 70s to 80s era

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