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It's Microsoft's Fault That Videogames Are Bad

It behooves first party publishers to provide top quality productions that make their consoles worth buying. Nintendo and Sony have both produced amazing games to sell us on the PS4 and Switch.

Microsoft, however, is different. Microsoft has decided to act no better than a grasping third party "AAA" publisher. Even worse, it set the tone of a generation and contributed - perhaps more than any other company - to the nasty normalization of excessive monetization.

It's Microsoft's fault that videogames are bad.

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Srhalo1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

I have been saying this kind of stuff forever.

Honestly he skipped over much of the most egregious things Microsoft does and has done, but it's still good work.

Short term memory people and people who don't understand why people don't want an xbox need to keep being reminded of this stuff.

I don't know why anyone supports them, from the very beginning Microsoft has don't nothing but be a damaging influence on gaming. Pretty much all the bad trends you see today were initially born from Microsoft's greed. They have zero interest in gaming as an art or any desire to make a good game just because they can.

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Imortus_san1711d ago

Do you even kow that Microsoft did MS DOS and windows and is responsable for gaming existing like today, what a joke of a comment you have.

Godmars2901711d ago

Did you know that DOS was practically given to what would become MS by IBM which was a hardware company which didn't want to branch out into software?

battlegrog1711d ago

Dont forget apple probably wouldn't be around anymore if it wasn't for ms funding it

AmUnRa1711d ago (Edited 1711d ago )

Yeah and MS was "using" the OS from IBM changed it, and called it heyr own. That is the true history....

rainslacker1711d ago

DOS was around before MS distributed it. It wasn't even required to have MS-DOS in the earlier days of boot disc gaming on PC, as the game developers would distribute their own drivers.

MS is responsible for the way modern PC games are made, and to their credit, DX was something that PC gaming sorely needed. If such a thing hadn't come about, then there is no way GPU's could have gotten to the point they are without some other company doing it. This may not seem like such a big deal now with only two competitors in the 3D GPU market, but there used to be a lot of GPU vendors, and having a fight over which one could make the best drivers, which would likely lock others out, would have held back PC gaming for a really long time.

Not that MS didn't also hold back PC gaming by locking DX behind newer versions of windows, but that's another matter.

However, the discussion presented by this video, and being discussed here, isn't about what good was done for gaming by any individual company, but rather, the things MS has done, which has led to bad practices against the consumer which were introduced by MS. I'm not going to say MS is guilty of being the first with all the things presented, because I know they didn't come up with all these schemes. But they were among the first of some of the examples posited to push them as a central part of their marketing and distribution ethos.

MS does indeed have some good things they've brought to gaming. But at the same time, some of those things may, or rather would have come about either way. Network account centralization being among their biggest achievement with the Xbox brand. Centralized achievement systems(although it's subjective if that's good). Things like standard hard drive in the console would have come either way.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that MS is at fault like being presented in the video. I think the entire industry played a part in getting to where we are today. MS may have introduced and normalized some things we don't like, or have just accepted are the norm now, but chances are, most of that stuff we would be dealing with anyways. What MS did was finding solutions to "problems" that existed within the industry. Those solutions benefited them, while annoyed us. If MS hadn't found those solutions, then someone else would have. MS just took a lot of ideas from others who failed at makign them a thing.

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madpuppy1710d ago (Edited 1710d ago )

This is wrong, Bill Gates purchased MS-Dos from Seattle Computer Products for $50,000 and licensed it to IBM for it's first Personal Computer.
That was essentially the creation of Microsoft as a company. Bill Gates Mother was a powerful business woman with very close ties to the Leadership of IBM at the time....Nepotism at it's finest. If it wasn't for Bill Gates mommy, Microsoft may have never existed.

Godmars2901710d ago

@rainslacker:
"I think the entire industry played a part in getting to where we are today."

That's not a legitimate excuse. As a console maker, as the holder of the leading platform when the 360 ruled, MS greatly influenced the industry. EA was all but a subdivision of Xbox.

@madpuppy:
Wow. DOS's history was worse than I recall...

rainslacker1710d ago

@God

I wasn't using it to excuse MS of anything presented in the video, or being discussed here. Just that the original poster was off base, and I went into more detail about all that.

I don't excuse, or even really blame MS, for the stuff in the topic at hand. Maybe for paid online, but the rest probably would have happened with or without MS. Just look at how publishers followed the mobile market practices to monetize their games, and while the console makers enabled them to be able to do that on console, they probably would have been pressured to do so anyhow.

For all the blame one may throw at MS, the industry as a whole is trying to move to make more money. I'd expect that from a business or an industry. The problems come in that those moves aren't lining up with what is in the consumers interest, even though these companies, and the industry, will try to present it as something that is good for the consumer, because it gives them more, even though it's less, but with a price or some consideration attached.

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Saranya1711d ago

Don Mattrick(also Steve Balmer), he's only one to made Xbox brand failed.

Rachel_Alucard1711d ago

Satya Nadella is outdoing them in failing somehow.

JeffGUNZ1711d ago

The amount of bias you have skews your judgment. I will make this simple; every business everywhere wants to make the most money it can. The fact that MS is the evil one because they started charging for Live, but Sony gets a pass for them following is laughable. Do you even remember how better Xbox Live was to PSN back in the day? Xbox Live had so many features PSN lacked early the last generation until PlayStation began charging. Now, both services are fantastic. Regardless of that, Sony is just as guilty for greed as MS. All companies are guilty of it. It is amazing to me to still see people have this blind loyalty to a gaming console they happen to prefer. I love my PS4 and my Xbox One X, but I don't give a crap about Sony or MS enough to spew this fanboy nonsense. If MS provides a product/game I desire, my support falls in that purchase. Same with Sony. I mainly game on my PC, but it is laughable for people to throw all the blame on MS for starting this stuff and by some odd train of thought, justifying their platform of preference for following suit. Can't we all step back and agree companies don't care about us and only care about money? Do you think these guys running Sony or MS are only in it for the joy they bring to you? Get real, they want more money.

We exist in a world where games are being pushed out not completed and patched weeks to months later. We live in a world where season passes and Microtransactions are now taken over rewards that we used to unlock by just playing the game. We as gamers have been throttled with bullsh*t over the last decade and all we do is pick one company and blame the other. It's sickening to see this, why are we all not united against this hogwash?

SegaGamer1711d ago

I don't know how anybody can disagree with you, it's all facts.

Rachel_Alucard1711d ago

Who made it a norm in the industry for Sony and Nintendo to do it in the first place? Oh yeah.

DaDrunkenJester1711d ago

@Rachel

So you're saying MS has so much influence that both the gaming giants Sony and Nintendo couldn't have fought back on it?

Are we also going to blame PSNow for creating subscription based gaming on consoles since it was the first and clearly influenced the likes of GamePass and EA Access?

gangsta_red1710d ago

Excellent post and it just shines a light on the hypocrisy of this site and certain users who constantly like to blame one company and give the other(s) a past.

That is what's so funny about a theme I've been seeing when trying to only blame MS. How MS is forcing other companies to do the same. It's downright hilarious to even read it.

As if MS could force or strong arm Sony or Nintendo to do the same tactics.

Do you know how much praise Sony or Nintendo would get if they both offered free online or no microtransactions. But no, they too followed the trends and saw potential profit in services and followed suit.

They were going to do it with or without MS's entry into the gaming market and people are fooling themselves if they don't think so.

Rachel_Alucard1710d ago (Edited 1710d ago )

At no point am I saying Sony is better in any comment. But to dismiss the one who created it just because their competitors decided to follow what the west does a decade and half later is pure fanboying.

Imalwaysright1710d ago (Edited 1710d ago )

Rachel_Alucard

Oh the irony. You were defending Sony and Nintendo a few comments above and even made the pathetic point that they were just following because they thought it was the norm in the west. I felt some of my brain cells dying when I read that utter crap. They followed because it makes them money, that is it. They are not exempt from blame. No one is.

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AspiringProGenji1711d ago

“The xbox has coasted by on being the system you get because your friends have it” -Dunkey 2019

notachance1711d ago

to put it in a perspective..
how many users here are new XB fans that started from XB1 era and not a remnant from previous gen?
compare that to the number of new fans of PS4/Switch

battlegrog1711d ago

Been enjoying xbox since the first, never bought a microtransaction in my life. This article's stupid or maybe video game players are. They have contribited more than some few shaddy moves that someone else did or would have done regardless of who took the lead on it first. People are in control ofwhat they do

DerfDerf1711d ago

It's definitely gamers as a whole. Unfortunately quite a few of them are simply idiots.

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notachance1710d ago

@ndonnine if n4g loves click bait and bullshit this site would consist of 90% MS fanboys because that's what they're doing all this gen

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Soybetaboy1711d ago

Wow what a reliable source
Let me quote some guy and call it "FACTS".

AspiringProGenji1711d ago

Except I didn’t call it facts

CorndogBurglar1711d ago

It's in quotes. And he named the person that said it. He never claimed it was a fact. Do you think anything with quotations around it is supposed to be a fact? That isn't how things work.

Soybetaboy1711d ago

Then why bother quoting.....exactly

Godmars2901711d ago

Sadly, those were the days when COD dominated the gaming scene. Did its own level of damage to creativity as all companies made clones.

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Father__Merrin1711d ago

xbox OG was excellent especially the clancy games, 360 was superb loved it, xbox one was drab from the begining with hardly any games of note just the same games from last generation ie gears forza halo. microsoft now are selling on average 40k consoles per week its a dying console and ppl on here still feel the need to support them even with no games, whilst the competition soars ahead.....

Godmars2901711d ago

Sadly, MS's tone deafness regarding game development has been on display since OG Xbox. They may have started big with and even had some successes with the likes of Ninja Gaiden and Splinter Cell, but when multiplayer came to Halo, that was pretty much it.

RizBiz1710d ago

What was superb about the 360? It's impressive failure rate?

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nitus101710d ago

@someone72

I still have my fully working FAT PS3 which I brought day one of release.

Father__Merrin1710d ago

it had a massivly impressibe library of games 2007-2009 i much favoured it over ps3 at the time

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Is 2K Games actually making FIFA 25, the next “best” entry yet?

FIFA president Gianni Infantino teases the future of FIFA games in a brand-new interview, and NBA 2K24 studio 2K Games might be behind it.

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Cacabunga8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I truly hope so.. day one buy

Ninver6h ago

Time for a change. Football games haven't evolved much.

Cacabunga6h ago

It’s tough when there is no competition

Abear218m ago

There’s PES and now we’ll have FC25 and FIFA so yes, but it is no longer true, shit is about to get real!

Now if we only had two viable options for Basketball and American football we’d be on to something.

anast5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

The barber shop and roulette wheel are going to be awesome.

Abear217m ago

Pay to win is the new free to play

CrimsonWing695h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It’ll be monetized to all hell, regardless

StormSnooper4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Hmmm, let’s see how they do. If they riddle it with microtransactions, hell no. Otherwise, I’m excited.

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Sorry George Miller, but you’re wrong about the Mad Max game

George Miller expressed dismay toward the 2015 Mad Max game recently, but Avalanche Studios' take on the lore is still so good to this day.

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Mad Max is a good game... George Miller should STFU.

-Foxtrot18h ago

I think the funny thing is if Kojima made a Mad Max game it would be so trippy and "out there" I don't think it would feel like Mad Max by the time he's done with it. This is why he's better off with original new IPs.

Kojima seems like a buzz word these film directors use because he's probably the only big name they've heard from the gaming industry.

Wretchedstain12h ago

Article is correct in my opinion, Miller is wrong. That Death Stranding II trailer is bonkers, looking forward to that in itself.

And I agree, unless Mr Kojima wants to change his tune, or laughably, be told what to do, you're right, it wouldn't be Mad Max or close.

porkChop12h ago

Yup, Kojima really doesn't suit Mad Max. Avalanche did a great job though. It looked, felt, and played like what I'd expect from a Mad Max game. I really enjoyed my time with it, and the sand storms were handled incredibly well.

TheGamingHounds11h ago

I never played it but the recent buzz around Mad Max has piqued my interest. Will check it out this year for sure

maelstromb11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

MM is not a perfect game by any means as it was held back by lots of repetitious, standard open-world copy and paste missions, but the devs SO perfectly captured the world, atmosphere, lore and brutality. It also just so happens to boast one of THE best photo modes out there and some of the most impressive explosions I've ever seen in a game to date. The car combat is of course another impressive standout, both vicious and fun. MM is a game which I have revisited multiple times since its release, and now having just seen Furiosa, I can feel it calling me back again.

There's a ton to love there, but I think you'll pickup on the areas where the devs struggled likely due to reigning in the scope, budget and time constraints, leading to an incredibly fun, albeit uneven experience. Though, as mentioned, it's absolutely a game worth experiencing once, and I truly hope you enjoy it. The game really does deserve a sequel.

victorMaje10h ago

Word for word. Exactly this. A lot of fun to be had in there. A true Mad Max game. Sequel can’t come soon enough.

gigoran81h ago

and the fact that they originally had an American voice actor until everyone kicked up a big stink about it?

maelstromb11h ago

Honestly, Kojima would do the game justice, but given his studio's current workload, it's a bit far flung. I could much rather see Bend Studios (Days Gone dev) doing a Mad Max follow-up. I'm playing through DG right now for the first time and I see lots of similarities between the games to where imo Bend could develop an impressive MM sequel.

VersusDMC11h ago

While i like the Mad Max game and think it's underrated...i don't know why people are mad at George Miller for not liking the game based on the IP he created. Especially since a lot of people hated it at release as well looking at that 69% metacritic.

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I think the issue is the studio was told by higher ups and most likely himself to make something linear yet when they got a first look at it they didn’t like it and wanted something open world

The head guy was basically like “you’ve just hired an open world dev and forced them to do a linear game yet now you want open world which has just wasted a year of development which we could have done from the start”

I think that’s why people are p****** because of the context the lead dev at Avalanche has given us.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

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just_looken15h ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty13h ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken12h ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty10h ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken9h ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0078h ago(Edited 8h ago)

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken7h ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

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@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2h ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer33m ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek0m ago

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him an sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

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Rangerman120822h ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast22h ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit21h ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export19h ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight20317h ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper1h ago(Edited 59m ago)

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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