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Sony's E3 2018 Long Form Gameplay Demos Feel Like A Lost Artform Now

From PSU: Sony's deep dive gameplay demonstrations from E3 2018 feel like a lost artform now after the CG trailer heavy offerings shown at E3 2019.

Double_O_Revan1796d ago

People crapped all over their show last year, but I liked it. We got an in depth look at their biggest games. All the quick CG trailers this year are disappointing.

carcarias1796d ago (Edited 1796d ago )

Yeah, I'm with you on this one.

Nothing means more to me than actual gameplay footage, showing off mechanics and giving me as much insight as possible into how the game might feel.

The fancy trailers can be as cool as they want, they don't actually tell you much about the gameplay itself. I think they should release the trailers in the build up to E3, to increase interest and hype, and then give show gameplay at the actual event, seeing as though people make such a big deal of it all.

I can't really feel that E3 is the 'big one' anymore, if the main thing we get is announcements and style over substance.

darthv721795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

It really depends on how much there is to show and how long the time is. obviously if you have 90 minutes and only 14 games then yes... you could fit some game play into the time between reveal trailers. That isnt how it went for MS this year so they relegated themselves to just trailers and attendees know they can get all the gameplay footage they want from the show floor. I believe they had over 60 games to show in that 90 minutes. That breaks down to less than 2 minutes per game and some got less than a minute.

Stage demos are there to fill time if there is a limited number of games to be shown. you will have people sitting there wondering where the next game is if its taking to long.

rainslacker1795d ago

Darth

14 quality games, compared to 60 games where they don't show anything. They could have 5-6 minutes for a CGI trailer, but can't do a 5 minute game play showing? Sorry, that just doesn't fly. They showed game play for all those indies they had. What, about 20 of them in a 5 minute sizzle reel. So fast, you would miss them if you blinked, with barely enough time to make note of the name?

MS focused on CGI. They could have easily done game play. Cut out 10 games, and 50 is still a hell of a lot of games. If you're going to spend 90 minutes showing stuff, make it stuff worth showing, that shows what people want to see.

Rude-ro1796d ago

I was going to say.. the most refreshing part of this e3 is not having tons of shill “gaming” sites slamming Sony for whatever their e3 stage show was...

Although, Sony not being there this year shows us what is wrong with the competition for sure.

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KwietStorm_BLM1795d ago

The game play shown was great. It was the awkward and strange format that people shat on.

Double_O_Revan1795d ago

They also complained "Sony only showed 4 games! Dey got no gamezz!!"

MikeNike3101795d ago

E3 is a little to predictable at this point. They were trying to shake things up with some production value. I mean you didn’t have to watch it but I actually appreciated the effort.

At this point Sony attending E3 is only inviting criticism. With that being said I still wish they would have been there. Forget the haters and do you.

spicelicka1795d ago

i don't think anyone disliked the gameplay demonstrations, it was just the super super early announcements.

KickSpinFilter1795d ago

They crapped over the conference setup: The different rooms, Flute player, talking Heads while everyone was moved room to room. But the actual Game play of games no one was crapped on.

sampsonon1795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

i wasn't there so i wasn't moved anywhere. when they switched venues i went a got a bear and something to eat.
Actually the majority of gamers weren't there, so i don't understand why people online would complain.

andibandit1795d ago

@Sampsonon

because sitting up for most the night waiting to watch their E3, only to have it cut to some roundtable discussion after the first game, didn't feel like time entirely well spent. The ending was also strange, by cutting to the same roundtable discussion, and you're scratching your head saying "Did it end or is it another intermission?".

sampsonon1795d ago

@andibandit: better than anything everyone else does. we got to see 8 minutes of the last of us 2. ghost of tsushima..... mean lol what the hell does MS show? A and aa game? and only cgi trailers?

jesus.

MikeNike3101795d ago

The flute was one of the best parts. Don’t think I’ll ever forget it. You can watch gameplay and trailers online all day but to make it a different experience is what makes Sony so unique.

andibandit1795d ago

@Sampsonon

I thought the others were awful, just because something is better than awful, dosnt mean im going to praise it

jesus

KickSpinFilter1795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

I was stuck in a movie Theater so it was a pain to get a beer, was a rather captive audience member.
It's the internet people do nothing but complain.
But when they did finally get around to it...what they showed was dope especially TLOU2 game play.

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sampsonon1795d ago

I think that's why sony passed on it this year. people were ungrateful and it cost them a lot of money to put a show like that together. the last of us 2 footage most likely took a half a year to make.

so next time sony decides to put a show on just sit back and enjoy it. if you don't like it there is always the MS show. cough!

KwietStorm_BLM1795d ago

Calling people ungrateful for opinions and criticism is corporate shilling at the highest degree. PlayStation had been at every E3 since it's inception. They didn't back out this year just because of some "ungrateful" fans. That would be extremely childish of a professional company to do. They didn't have a full conference worth of new content ready to show, and they have other plans, obviously gearing up for PS5. They didn't do PSX last year either. And it isn't all about PlayStation or Xbox. There are other conferences too.

sampsonon1795d ago

@KwietStorm no, they think people bashed them for trying to give a unique experience that no one else gives. they said " how much did that cost us?" ok fuk em. they can sit and watch MS habdheld games this yr.

they may never go back. psx will be their launch pad.

darthv721795d ago

they'll be at E3 next year for sure. They should still have been at this one this year too. I'm sure there is updated builds of games like death stranding, GoT and the sort. They don't get a pass for not showing up.

TK-661795d ago (Edited 1795d ago )

"people were ungrateful and it cost them a lot of money to put a show like that together."

Sorry but they did need to stop with the flashy bullshit they were doing at conferences. MS attempted similar this year with the Lego car and it's just a time waster. Sony recently have had some really goofy stuff like hanging people from the ceiling mimicking a seizure and moving an entire conference to a separate building for one game. All of that cost money and I just want to slap whoever it is at Sony and MS that keep pushing these ideas for conferences.

MikeNike3101795d ago

Yeah hopefully they plan on attending next time. One of the reasons they’re in the position they’re in is because they put a lot of effort into these shows and the people obviously appreciated.

KickSpinFilter1795d ago

No not at all why they passed on it this year.
It's just to early in the year to talk about what they have to talk about (PS5)
I'm sure we will get a PSX in December to talk about the release in 2020.
Plus they can't show PS5 projects just yet, developers have things in the works and it's better to save for end of year or even June 2020 for either E3 or PSX closer to release of PS5, otherwise you would have a MS E3 like showing. People ungrateful or costing them money is not the case they did not have a PSX December 2018 or E3 2019. With Dreams, Ghosts of T, TLOU2, Death Stranding now shown enough of, PS4 is just winding down. And Sony readying the PS5 machine

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strayanalog1796d ago

We're in the middle of changing times. E3 is no longer the main event anymore, and gameplay-only trailers are no longer worth the effort as there's a lot of opportunities to show gameplay at other moments in the year. It's something new in our industry we have to now get accustomed to.

Potnoodle9991795d ago

Or not. As shown last year that’s what people love so we do not need to get used to it. For the sake of their marketing they need to go back to showing gameplay demos....The only real way to showcase a game is to....you know... show the game playing as it plays

strayanalog1795d ago

E3 being a global fest of reveals and announcements, is usually best for devs and publishers to show what the game is about, instead of what the gameplay is about.
And while I understand where you're coming from, and admire your passion (as I rather have gameplay myself), I can no longer ignore the rising of the tide. I suppose we can agree to disagree.

CrimsonPheonix1795d ago

People say this every damn year. E3 will always be a big deal. Even if the Big 3 left, which the MS and Nintendo won't. There will always be studios that want to show off their wears and people to tune in.

strayanalog1795d ago

True. But why clamor for time or an expensive stage when you can make your game the event and livestream whenever and however long you like?

nommers1795d ago

Please pray tell, what is the main event if not E3?

strayanalog1795d ago

Basically, the internet. With youtube and other streaming outlets, every major press outlet and publisher can make their own E3-like livestream so devs can show their own game in detail for a longer period of time.
When E3 was invented a trade show was the right call, because gaming was bigger than the corners of CES. Now, though, in a digital age, gaming cannot be encapsulated in a single event; it's far too big and culturally ingrained.
The Big 3 and developers/publishers don't necessarily need a show like E3 to unveil new consoles or new video games. The event's value as a platform for engaging media has diminished.

KwietStorm_BLM1795d ago

If E3 is not the main event, then what is? What other convention brings the whole industry out at the same time on the same level that E3 does?

strayanalog1795d ago

Basically, the internet. With youtube and other streaming outlets, every major press outlet and publisher can make their own E3-like livestream so devs can show their own game in detail for a longer period of time.
When E3 was invented a trade show was the right call, because gaming was bigger than the corners of CES. Now, though, in a digital age, gaming cannot be encapsulated in a single event; it's far too big and culturally ingrained.
The Big 3 and developers/publishers don't necessarily need a show like E3 to unveil new consoles or new video games. The event's value as a platform for engaging media has diminished.

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DeadManMMX1795d ago

I think it’s because we’re on the cusp of a new generation and a lot of people are holding their cards or just plain not ready.

BLow1795d ago

What does that have to do with not showing gameplay? Gears is coming out this fall. This gen. Again Gears is coming out this fall in 2019. Halo is coming out next year. This is the second time they showed this game.

We need to stop making excuses for MS. Another wait until next E3 I see....

DeadManMMX1795d ago

I wasn’t talking about Gears and Halo that didn’t make sense to me either.

Einhander19711795d ago

Exactly do we really need CG trailers, developers should be showing actual gameplay the days are long gone where we all thought that was in game visuals.

Potnoodle9991795d ago

We are in a cycle, this used to be the norm then went away. This industry goes round and round in circles

Spurg1795d ago

Didn't Ubisoft do that with Watch dogs

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Is Sony's Adaptive Difficulty A Good Idea?

Sony has been reported to be considering adding adaptive difficulty to all of its games. This feature would likely allow gamers to play more difficult games that usually have a skilled player barrier and also make it so hardcore gamers can get a good experience out of typically easier games.

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shinoff2183124d ago

I don't see an issue. I'm also sure it'd be an option that you could turn off to.

jambola124d ago

If optional yes
if not, awful idea

ApocalypseShadow123d ago (Edited 123d ago )

It should be optional but it would be more interesting to see gamers play more advanced AI. It's been a request since the beginning that NPCs and bots were more intelligent and tougher and not be stupid cannon fodder. This AI I'm guessing will adapt to the player. Which is cool. If the gamer sucks, the AI will suck. If the gamer is a bad ass, the AI will kick some ass and take names.

Based on GT7 Sophy, AI will definitely give gamers a run for their money.

jambola123d ago

sure
but I also don't ever want a case of playing a game I want to be hard, but then it get's easier because I die too much and removes that option
if it's 100% optional, I'm all for it
even ai adapting I'm not against
just any crap like, "you died too much so boss will suck to let you win easier" crap

Noskypeno123d ago

Yeah like everyone said, it should be optional. Sometimes I like to relax from the competitive mp and play a single player that's challenging but in a predictable way. I'll probably use it at times but sometimes I just want to have a soldier yell grenade 5 seconds before he throws it at you in perfect English.

ZeekQuattro123d ago

I don't have a problem with it. A number of games do this already depending on your playstyle.

porkChop123d ago

If you can turn it off? Sure. If it's forced, no it's a terrible idea. Imagine wanting a tougher experience but because you die a few times the game lowers the difficulty. That kind of defeats the purpose of the harder difficulty.

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Sony Wants to Know: 'Does Busting Make You Feel Good?'

A new ad for the PS VR2 sees Sony asking fans if "busting" makes them "feel good," leading to a lot of jokes online.

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Plague-Doctor27175d ago

Apparently this is a reference to Ghostbusters...??

blackblades175d ago

Didn't sound like it, sounds dirty

The_Hooligan175d ago

First it was the 19" of venom and now this 😂. Who's in charge of Sony's marketing team? lol

SICKINDIVIDUAL175d ago

Aww...snowflakes...too much for y'all to handle?

I remember a time when people weren't offended by this type of advertising.

Don't forget your helmet if going outside.

raWfodog174d ago

@sickindividual

I’m thinking how people these days would react to an ad showing an old lady asking “Where’s the beef?!”

blackblades174d ago (Edited 174d ago )

@raWfodog
Ads these days be so lewd. Like there's this one had on tv about internet speed saying "I need some of that big gig energy in my life" then sip on some tea with the Look while garage door slowly goes down. I'm not new to it at all cause theres been plenty over the years

raWfodog174d ago

@blackblades
We use to laugh at the ‘naughty’ ads back in the days but people today get so offended at the suggestion of sex in ads. It’s a different world.

Barlos174d ago

Nah, it sounds like a reference to Ghostbusters. That was the first thing that sprung to mind.

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Duke19175d ago

I ain’t ‘fraid of no ghost

zeuanimals174d ago

Let me tell you somethin'

FullmetalRoyale175d ago

You're right, no human being would use "bust" like that.

fr0sty175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

"Oh, Uh... There was a ghost! Uh-uh-uh... This is ectoplasm! Did you see the ghost? It ran through here and s-- it slimed me! That wasn't me it was a spooky ghost!"

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gold_drake175d ago

in general, yes. very good. lol

gold_drake175d ago

not gonna lie, that does feel good. ha.

-Foxtrot175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Depends on my mood...

OtterX175d ago

It feels good whether you're in the mood or not.

The thing is, bustin' chooses you. You never know when it'll show up.

.... and just to be clear, we're talking about ghostbusting. 🙄

OtterX175d ago

Leaves me feelin' like a Marshmallow Man.

P_Bomb175d ago

That’s not ectoplasm! 😏

OtterX175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

😂😂😂
I ain't fraid of no ghost!

https://legendsrevealed.com...

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Sony: "Portion" of PlayStation First-Party Games Changes in Launch Date Impacted Profitability

According to Sony, changes to the launch dates of a "portion of first-party titles" impacted the company's profitability.

P_Bomb275d ago

“No word on which games were delayed, though”

Et tu, Factions? 🤔

KyRo275d ago

We barely know anything coming from Sony. It's all very quiet. Whatever they are doing they are playing it very differently to how they usually do it. For the people who aren't massively into superheros, it's a bit dry at the moment on the exclusive front.

isarai275d ago

I don't know why people are disagreeing, we only know of Spider-Man and Wolverine. We don't have any official announcement of anything else. It's been quiet for an unusual amount of time for PlayStation.

CS7275d ago

But we have the Gran Turismo movie and a live service game from Horizon /s

shinoff2183275d ago (Edited 274d ago )

Exactly why I got an xbox , starfield is way more intriguing then Spiderman 2. I'm not really into the superhero stuff. To this day I say my favorite ones were the ultimate alliance games. Spiderman 1 was pretty cool but I doesn't excite me like a starfield or rpg. I'm more excited for store ocean 2 remake then Spiderman 2. My ps5 will have some really deserved cool off time once starfield releases.

jivah274d ago

Crazy thing is that they've been eerily quiet on the Sony front. Like to the point where the let loose a few announcements just to tide us over. But we still have no idea the mountain of stuff that's on the way and being worked on. And to think its been this way since a large majority of gamers complained a few years ago, that Sony showed too much in advanced. And since then, they've held on super tight. Its never been this way.

Hedstrom274d ago (Edited 274d ago )

Am i the only one who is excited for Helldivers 2? I think it looks super fun.

https://youtube.com/watch?v...

FinalFantasyFanatic274d ago

@Hedstrom
I'm low key interested for the Starship Troopers vibe, unfortunately I couldn't get any friends to play the first game with me.

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seanpitt23274d ago

Ps5 lack of 1st party games is really showing 3 years into this gen and it's been pretty bad! All we have to look forward to is GOAS

PunksOnN4G274d ago

Lol funny xbox has had a last of 1st party for over 5-6 years now yal lcoming out saying its a problem for PS but did not once during those 6 years LOL xbox kids down bad but i get bros been last place for over a decade LOL

Amplitude274d ago (Edited 274d ago )

Sony's got some ballers in it's arsenal of games. I'd argue way better quality and quantity than Microsoft's got but neither are particularly amazing.

Im a bit underwhelmed by this entire gen on both fronts tbh. Lack of any sort of quality DLSS competitor on AMD's side of things really affected both of these consoles to an extreme and really kinda forced me to switch to PC this gen, which is where i've mostly just been playing older games anyway. I sold my Series X and just use the PS5 for the exclusives and multiplayer stuff with my friends. I kinda wish the entire concept of consoles would go away with how this gen is going. Subscription service wars, microtransactions, paid online which is still insane to me, flat out stupid game pricing with very little in the way of actual upgraded game concepts beyond graphics settings bump ups, practically completely unsupported borderline scam accessories like the PSVR2 and dumb nonsense like the PSVR1 requiring a separate camera than the PS5 Camera. Hell we only just recently even got basic amenities like 1440p and Dolby Atmos over on PS5, and Atmos is almost unusable on the Series consoles.

The software experience and the hardware's all hella disappointing tbh and Insomniac Games is really the only company i can think of pushing the hardware to an extreme at the moment, with their SSD craziness in Ratchet and Spiderman 2, 60FPS RT and 40FPS modes, 3D audio, crazy impressive animation and post processing effects and clear benefits to the actual games. Mad props to them man

fr0sty274d ago

Series S/X didn't have a single first party exclusive game for the first 2 years of their lives... yet certain folks were curiously quiet about that...

CS7274d ago

Why in high heavens is everything about Xbox vs PS5 in here?

It is an article about the PS5.

Xbox's first party output has been garbage for over a decade, no one cares.

Playstation's known upcoming offerings is probably the driest it has ever been in three generations and these kids only care about "hurrr durrrr but but Xbox has even less games!11!!!!"

I don't care about Xbox, I bought a Playstation to play next generation exclusives and that HAS been lacking this gen and the future really isn't looking too bright.

InUrFoxHole274d ago (Edited 274d ago )

Surprise! Here comes the but but the other system... Dude just accept it for what it is. You can't keep covering for these companies like they care about you. They'll screw you over every chance they get, just to grab your $$$. The sooner you stop protecting that piece of plastic the sooner you can see things as a consumer and demand better.

FinalFantasyFanatic274d ago (Edited 274d ago )

I've been pretty disappointed with PS this gen, I haven't even felt much of a need to invest in a PS5 yet.

I really miss those really great games, especially JRPGs, which is why I'm happy to help fund games on Kickstarter like Armed Fantasia, 100 Heroes, Penny Blood... I'm still on the fence about whether I'll help out with Ratatan yet, Sony just isn't helping fund these games or giving them the support to thrive on their console this gen.

fr0sty273d ago

You call yourself final fantasy fanatic and yet you see no reason to invest in ps5, despite two of the best games in the series being released this year for it?

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Ashunderfire86275d ago

We got so many games coming out this year, why even complain? Many games are making their target release date. Sony got some VR games as well coming and a horror survival game this month for PS5

Ashunderfire86275d ago

Yes Fort Solis PS5 console exclusive, and Daymare 1994 all this month! Horror survival or Survival horror you know what I mean 😆 you can Google all this info like I did. PS5 also has Spiderman 2 we obviously know coming October and HellDivers 2! For the 2 people that disagree needs to do a Google search! This year is stacked with games already.

DOMination-275d ago

Chasing the live service genre is a huge gamble. If they get one hit that's on par with today's heavy hitters, then the investment will be worth it 100x. But history tells us that a huge % of these titles fail - even ones from established studios with AAA budgets.

Over the last two generations, Sony have excelled in making brilliant cinematic single player games. Those games helped them to be the number 1 publisher for both revenue and profits and by quite some distance. Hopefully the lack of releases recently isn't a sign of the business pivoting to a completely different model because frankly, that'll suck. The current model is both commercially and critically successfully so it doesn't need changing on a whim just to chase the GaaS big bucks! #prayforplaystation

Chevalier275d ago

Agreed I really hope they don't pivot too much into GaaS and have a balanced approach with lots of single player story driven games mixed in.

Tacoboto274d ago

Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name.

Magatsuhi274d ago

They have to pivot. With MS buying up everything they can't be reliant on the revenue brought in by 3rd party games anymore and that's what they use to fund alot of these 1st party games. So now they need a successful gaas game to bring in that extra cash flow to fund more 1st party games.

Chevalier274d ago

"Oh they're so in on GaaS that they led their last showcase with a GaaS title that even has a $ in the name."

And yet Playstation releases SP games regularly and Goty ones too. What's the last Goty Xbox game?! Oh right nothing AAA Goty in how many years?! Lol.

Don't get me wrong Xbox has some SP games on the way, but, so far not consistently and no Goty contenders that come close to Playstation.

Amplitude271d ago (Edited 271d ago )

I'd argue that Hi-Fi Rush is a solid candidate for GOTY. That was a good-ass game.
That's about it though lol

talocaca275d ago

Hopefully that means a packed 2024.

I'm mostly surprised that we still don't even know what their major studios are up to. Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog (single player), Bluepoint, Team Asobi, Media Molecule....

Amplitude271d ago (Edited 271d ago )

I kinda get it. These games take forever to develop and Sony's been announcing games much closer to their release dates these days which I think is smart.

Asobi and Media Molecule though, yeah - been a real long while. I still really do think Dreams is salvageable if Sony put in an ounce of effort. Could even be a huge system-seller with a rebrand, ad campaign, pc release, and maybe even a free version of the "Play" mode with ads that could pay creators. The general public doesn't even know Dreams exists and i think anybody that does know it exists would entirely approve of pushing it in any new way

Petebloodyonion275d ago

No Sh+t Louise, Delaying a game to the next quarter means that we won't have the profit of that game this quarter like we budget last year!

I'm Glad we have a complete article on the main page explaining these important things.

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