Troy Baker has revealed that he "would love to come back" to reprise his role as Rhys in Borderlands 3, despite Randy Pitchford's tweets.
Ybarra, who spent two decades at Microsoft, acknowledged concerns about the future of Xbox hardware by fans once more first-party games go multiplatform.
As an xbox guy, If porting some exclusives to sony and nintendo allows MS to continue offering gamepass day one, I'm all for it. Port them all if you need to.
Your way of thinking is why Microsoft is where they are. All they had to do was hold the line of the 360 circa 2010. Had the continued with thay strategy they would not have had to introduce gamepass which has spectacularly kneecapped them.
@hof, but then they would still be in the same position as sony, fighting for those same 150 million customers. As a publicly traded company, they still need to show growth. Once sony is day and date on PC, they will also need to find new customers, likely by embracing 3rd party. What you consider "kneecapping" I consider an incredible customer value in gamepass.
Kneecapping the xbox and pc owners are loving it I do t think u telise how popular gamepass is
They were faltering in the last year or two of the 360 era. Don't forget that they doubled down on Kinect, which might be part of the reason why they didn't have much to show going into Xbox One.
But GamePass is not MS' consolation effort; it was always the endgame! MS is all about subscription-based revenue-streams now! They have turned almost all of their businesses into software-as-a-service; only Windows remains. Stay tuned for that one in the next 5 years.
As a consumer, I really get that point of view.
As an ex dev seeing what's happened to the industry I have no doubt that GP is harming the industry I love by devaluing games, so my thoughts are little less positive about it.
I can agree with the sentiment that most of their games should be multi platform. Until they swallowed up these devs, most of the titles we are wating for would have been multi platform anyway.
@ThinkThink
"As an xbox guy, If porting some exclusives to sony and nintendo allows MS to continue offering gamepass day one, I'm all for it. Port them all if you need to."
I won´t say all, but definitely some games I wouldn´t care either as long excellence continues to be delivered to us.
If some then why not all? Think think isn't wrong, his reasoning is quite concise in that yes multi platform brings more funds to develop more games all available day 1 on gamepass, he's happy as Larry.
I still find it funny that Microsoft is spinning its obligations that it has to releasing on other systems as if it is some noble decision. Before they bought the companies they did these games were all in development easily the last 3-5 years and had some type of standing agreement they absorbed.
People are acting like this is a dependency when in reality it’s them just trying to avoid major lawsuits. I am willing to bet any game that’s started development in the last year that would release in the next 5 will eventually be Xbox only unless in the next 5 years Xbox just fails hard.
And with the new skus they released I REALLY don’t foresee them having a huge jump. When now the disc version is a HUGE luxury at 600 with them not even having a physical presence anymore it’s them killing their physical market.
They just need super strong games and consistency. This showcase was the first time since the 360 era where I actually was excited for what Xbox has. I already own a paper weight Xbox Series X, but now it’s looking like it’s time to blow the 3 inch layer of dust off it and give it some loving.
What Xbox needs to do now is be consistent with the releases. Don’t let this be a one time thing and then back the the poultry exclusives and typical Forza, Halo, and whatever else they just release. If they can do that I honestly believe they can rebuild the brand and possibly get it back to how it was when the 360 was alive.
I agree with article and I believe sony will follow suit budgets to big development times to long none can sustain this forever and sony won't be able to either
I also think in 20 years we are going to look back and say "Remember when we used to have to buy a game publishers box to put under your TV in order to play their games?"
The former boss of PlayStation has responded to some recent comments made by Xbox head Phil Spencer in a recent interview. The wide-ranging interview covered a variety of topics, with the conversation at one point leading Spencer to mention that he doesn't want to do "slimy platform things" to force gamers to play games a certain way, which has now prompted a response by PlayStation's former leader.
“Phillip W. Spencer III:"Xbox’s aim with Call of Duty is to give players choice, not "do slimy platform things" that make one option more appealing."
Yet Xbox were the ones who started this exclusive crap with CoD during the 360/PS3 era. This guy is something else.
Yep, some of their fans also parrot this hypocritical line, MS started and popularised that trend, then spent 80 billion.
Pot kettle black.
"MS started and popularised that trend"
What a load of horse poo. Atari was paying for and securing exclusives back in the '80s. It's been around since the dawn of gaming, they're all at it. The earliest one I actually remember as it played out was Sony hijacking Final Fantasy 7 from Nintendo.
Edit: just read the comments again, are ye only talking about COD exclusive deals? If so then yeah, ye're probably right!
Old mcgroin
Just a heads up. Nintendo lost square by staying with cartridge. That's fact. After square pleaded with Nintendo to switch to a larger format. So Sony didn't really hi jack anything.
Last where we're you before Sony even entered cause this was common during Sega vs Nintendo.
Also before that I believe on nes. Developers used to have to sign like a 2 year exclusivity with Nintendo to be on their platform.
Might wanna read up a bit
@shinoff2183
"where we're you before Sony even entered cause this was common during Sega vs Nintendo."
"Might wanna read up a bit"
Might want to take your own advice and maybe read the start of my comment where I said "Atari was paying for and securing exclusives back in the '80s. It's been around since the dawn of gaming".
Gaming didn't start with Nintendo buddy.
"Yet Xbox were the ones who started this exclusive crap with CoD during the 360/PS3 era. This guy is something else."
That's not actually true. Sony paid to keep games off of Nintendo and sega back in day. Plus they payed blocking rights to keep certain games off of gamepass which is probably what Phil may be referring to. Imo that makes them slimey too if we're being honest. At the end of the day it's just business. There is no doubt in my mind that if sony could make huge purchases like Microsoft, they would. You probably won't see sony respond with an official statement because they know they are just as guilty.
"Sony paid to keep games off of Nintendo and sega back in day."
That's not actually true.
Nintendo (and Sega) had licensing of games exclusive to their system way before PlayStation even existed, and both used 3'rd party developers to make licensed games exclusively for their hardware.
You and Microsoft are literally trying to rewrite history.
To be fair here, Einhander, Phil didn't mention Sony by name with his comment, it was just implied.
That said, the practice goes all the way back to the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" that not only limited developers to publishing on NES, but also limited the number of games they could make per year to 5.
Nintendo did it, sega did it was business at the end of the day. Y'all people gotta stop rolling on the Sony did it back in the day nonsense. Always blaming someone and back in the day was back in the day stop going that far back in time.
You're creating a strawman here. Nobody claimed Sony didn't do that type of tactic. He specifically singled out CoD since that's what the whole topic and Phil's statement was about.
Don't be dishonest man
Regardless it's not about who done it first....it's about who is doing it now.
You do know that Xbox does the same thing right. Xbox blocks Sony, Sony blocks Xbox. Please stop crying about gamepass. Thats the root of the problem.
The first instance of this crap I remember is Soul Calibur II. GameCube got Link, Xbox had Yoda and PS2 had Darth Vader.
you are thinking Soul Calibur 4 for the SW characters. Soul Calibur 2 had Link (GC), Spawn (XB) and Heihachi (PS2). Then Soul Calibur 3 was exclusive to the PS2 while Soul Calibur 4 was on 360/PS3... no Nintendo version until Soul Calibur Legends for Wii.
Adding on to what darth said, Soulcalibur II HD came out later on PS3 (maybe Xbox 360 too?) and it included the PS2 exclusive character Heihachi and the Xbox exclusive fighter Spawn but unsurprisingly, Link wasn't included
Soul Calibur IV on Xbox had Yoda (hate fighting that short bastard) and PS3 had Darth Vader but each platform had the other fighter as paid DLC.
True... and yet the kind of 'exclusivity' MS paid for was usually timed. The same things would still come to the PS but when Sony does it they make it so what they pay for stays exclusive.
I get paying to get something sooner, but paying to keep others from ever getting it too... that shit is slimy AF.
"but paying to keep others from ever getting it too... that shit is slimy AF "
So than you agree the Act/Blizz and Zenimax deals are slimy AF becasue there are definitely former multi-plat games PlayStation gamers lost becasue of the aqusitions.
@romulus, the entire practice is slimy, no matter who does it. Especially if the games in question were initially mutliplat and then became paid exclusives through acquisitions or contractual obligations.
As far as I know, MS has not removed access to any existing games for PS gamers. You can probably look to ones that were initially announced but never released until after, those likely shouldnt count because they weren't existing games in franchises that were always multiplatform. We can look to games such as Street Fighter V as a good example of a game in a multiplatform series that suddenly became exclusive and other gamers lost out on. Same goes for Dead Rising 3. Both of which were some back alley deal made between Capcom and the platform holder which YES... those are slimy AF.
@Darth
"True... and yet the kind of 'exclusivity' MS paid for was usually timed. The same things would still come to the PS but when Sony does it they make it so what they pay for stays exclusive."
Like Dead Rising 3? 🤔
Can you blame Sony for paying for exclusives. Ms went and bought up 2 major publishers, many studios , alot of the wrpg market.
Are you as upset ps fans don't get to play Ms 3rd party exclusives as well
@shin... in the grand timeline of things... Sony paying for exclusives predates anything MS did since joining the club.
***As far as I know, MS has not removed access to any existing games for PS gamers.***
In what time frame? Recently? No. But, you know, they definitely have.
And why do we always goal post with 'removed access to any existing games' as if that's the only slimy thing these companies are doing, specifically the fact that Microsoft is buying up massive publishers to control where those games go just like Sony making agreements with third parties (who can say no, btw).
Phil says things but it's the actions of the company he runs that just nullifies all of his statements. You can't call a company slimy for using money to buy exclusives when you do the exact same thing by buying out studios and making their new games exclusives. At least up until the point you realize you're not selling enough and need to put them on that other platform to make the game studios stick around and exist.
Yeah...I love how now that's a plus while also limiting IP from other platforms at the same time. What a bullshit slimy car salesman tactic.
Anyone with a brain or memory bigger than a pea can remember who started cod bs
Phil was and is the right man for the company he is working for. Slimy..through and through. The Persons as well as the company itself.
Wow so you all really loved corporate scum like Jim Ryan then? All the games as a service projects and no backwards compatibility unless it's an overpriced remaster? And abandoning Twisted metal, resistance, syphon, getaway and all of the other IPs?
And if Phil is so bad why did the xbox showcase/the games he greenlit annihilate PS last presentation?
"You scared bro?"
No one is scared, have you seen the hardware/software sales from the most irrelevant gaming brand in the past 15 yrs aka the green brand...???
Their latest show was so ''AmAzInG'' that they'll be able to sell at least 40 more consoles/games and capture the attention of at least 6 more gamers around the planet...
Phil's a blowhard , and fk Jim Ryan to. I feel Jim's the reason sonys at were their at. Game wise. To say blew the lead is such and overstatement though lol. Ps is still killing Xbox.
Getting moist over a showcase really. ? let's take a short step in time to Redfall and it's epic showcase remembering the part how the AI adapts like never before and CrackDown with the power of " The Cloud "
Young chap it's advertising nothing more nothing less that power mop turbo in the advert will not clean your floor quicker
The fixation on Jim Ryan is a bit creepy I'm not gonna lie pass the phone back to your Dad...foot steps..
Hello you don't know me but that child of yours is showing an unhealthy fascination with an old man please contact child services. Like yesterday
@The Professional, Jim Ryan never portrayed himself to be the savor of gaming or act as if the company he works for was victimized by the evil competition like that chubby dope Philip Spencer. Lol. Ryan almost never talked yet here you are hating on him because the mindless masses told you to.
You xbox fans never learn, always running your mouth about Sony as soon as anything good happens for xbox. Yet after the games release and the sales results are shown, xbox stays dead last in both. It would be wise for you to hold off on the trash talking.
POS boss for a POS brand with POS fans, that's what xbox is.
So good to see them begging for Sony and Nintendo money and making all their games multiplatform, they are the ultimate losers and got what they deserve.
What trash you must be. Criticizing every fan of a brand you don't like. You're a great example of PS fans and bias. Anyone you don't agree with is wrong and stupid right? You must be a liberal.
I mean your a bit wrong to though lol. And of course just like a true repub, gotta resort to politics. Yall some straight crazy in the head mfs
"Critisizing every fan of a brand you don't like"
"You're a great example of PS fans and bias"
Oh the irony!!!
I was kind of with you, except for the hate in your words, until you said "liberal". What is it with "conservatives" and their anger? :P
Should it really have to be said? Great games are great games, no matter what platform they come out on. Being a loyalist makes no sense. I do give Sony (and Nintendo) a lot of credit for nurturing and growing their first party developers and putting out the great games they do. Sony seemed to loose their way for a few years, hopefully they are back on the right track. I have a gripe with Nintendo and Microsoft, but only on a couple of issues. Nintendo selling us cheap hardware and thereby holding their games back and Microsoft for holding back this generation with Series S. I just want great games with hardware manufacturer supporting them by giving them the most power possible so developers can keep pushing gameplay. There's still so much more powerful hardware can offer us other than just graphical fidelity.
Jim Ryan is literally corporate scum who doesn't play games. Enjoy Concord.
Weren't you just calling out someone else about how demonizing people is bad. Here you are thiugh
Why do you keep bringing up Jim Ryan like anyone is defending him? lol he ain't even part of the discussion. He can kick rocks too. But you acting real hurt like Spencer is your daddy or somethin.
Phil Spencer surely must have the world record in the amount of times a CEO can put his foot in his mouth throughout his career. I honestly wonder why Microsoft even lets him do interviews at all at this point.
Phil Spencer is the most dishonest and two faced person in the industry.
And the sad thing is he lies right to Microsoft fans faces and they thank him for it. And then expect everyone else to thank him too.
But he dresses casually and sometimes wears a leather jacket and claims to be a gamer so he cant be all that bad right? /s
Personally, I think he's most honest when he wears a logo t-shirt under his business suit jacket.
/s
Why don't u stay off xbox articles my friend u obviously have a agenda to spread negative vibes on every xbox article if it riles the 52 yr u up so bad my friend stay off the articles
You have a problem with him telling the truth about Phil where everything can be proven that Phil's a lier, misleads and has done nothing for the Xbox brand except kill the brand? So much so that they had to buy up publishers to stay competitive but still be in 3rd place?
The smell of irony is hilarious here 🤣 I mean....it IS slimy, imo, BUT.....Xbox is the one who did ALLL of this during 360 era, which Phil is all too familiar with. Xbox is just BIG mad that they got crushed at their own game so they picked up their ball and went home. Cried to daddy big bucks to fight back because they don't know how to make good games. Convinced daddy to buy the playground.
"Responding to one such article posted on X/Twitter, Layden posted a GIF of actor Will Arnett doing a laughing spit take, clearly showing how he feels about the comment."
Miss that man.
No I don't have a problem with truth u all seem to, sony very guilty of underhanded dealings as well but we wo t mention them I have problem with him on every article spouting negative shit and blatant lies at times
Phil Spencer : Timed exclusive = bad. Buying a multiplatforms studio to make their games exclusive = good
OK...
Okay when sony pay to keep games of other platforms both are bad as each other not taking side it's a shit practice from them both
Skulter I was going to be insulting but when u starting using smiling faces on ur reply I refused u just child hope u had great day at school mt
I'm probably older than you, little buddy. 🙃
Also, why is your comment over here and not replying to my comment? 🤔 🤔
Ironbike mentioning school when it's clear he never finished, based on his language/typing skills. Hilarious stuff.
Maybe it's just me but it feels pretty slimy to buy up half the industry in an effort to take games away from people playing on the competing platform. Spencer needs to take a long look in a mirror.
How can this be considered news? The story consists solely of a single GIF image without any mentions, replies, hashtags, or additional context.
It sounds like Microsoft pretty much hired Phil Spencer to destroy the company and its gaming division.
I thought u in bed u needvur 40 winks little fella ,now go to sleep school in the morning .
Both require accounts to play = Forcing gamers play games a certain way. Spencer needs to take the foot out of his mouth. Go back to your padded cell dude.
but buying out major companies and planing ion making the games exclusive is?
giril is the biggest bullshitter in the industry.
he should be very hush hush cause xbox under his leadership is failing in a big way.
guy needs to be humbled.
i knew it wouldnt take him long to take shots at others again.
Ms did have a better showcase and PS seems like they keeping games from us for something else and I'm a PS fan. At the end of the day it's just games and entertainment
Phil Spencer is such a hypocrite, god I can't this guy wish that fat sob would just go away. I see comments in this comment section regarding "who did it first" nonsense. Doesn't matter, Microsoft/ Phil Spencer are the only ones who have been peddling this "we're the good guys, they're the evil corporation who hates gamers" nonsense every chance they can get. No other platform holder/publisher publically pretends to be anything other than a corporation. Hilarious watching a 3 trillion dollar plus corporation play the victim of big bad Sony.
@ einheinder1972
I think you heed to do some research. Sony signed a deal with Eidos to keep console version of Tom Raider off of sega and Nintendo consoles. You may not believe it but it's a fact. Not saying Mictosoft is innocent but saying people saying they started this is BS.
Phil don’t you have enough drama as it is?? You had one good show in the past 15 years. Now you wanna talk about your s**t don’t stink. The PlayStation beast please do it!!! Let’s get back to those crash bandicoot commercials. F*ck peace we bout to crash out.
I hate Phil Spencer with a passion. He couldn't make it in politics so he's doing it in gaming.
Kinda like when you’re a kid and your losing a game so you say “this game is dumb, im gonna play something else”.
Phil Spencer confirms that more Xbox games will be available on new platforms during a new interview after Xbox Showcase.
That last article where everyone is having a baby over a showcase is ridiculous because the Xbox showcase was really a multiplat showcase...
@Eonjay
I think people are just happy that they gave us something to be excited about. It being multiplatform stuff makes it even easier to rejoice as everyone gets to enjoy it. This show was really what Summerfest should have been, just with less of an xbox focus obviously.
These shows are fun to watch because we get to be excited about new games.
With that said, I imagine Perfect Dark, South of Midnight and perhaps state of decay 1-3 would be possible candidates for ps5. Doom might also be a given. They didn't really try to hammer home its exclusivity.
@MrBaskerville
Totally agree. I did enjoy SGF though unlike the majority. My personal taste is more eclectic than most. I found stuff at each show to enjoy.
Eon
Come on man, yes it’s multi but as a PS5 and switch owner i enjoyed the show yesterday far more than i did with State of Play.
Most announcements came from nowhere to me, and MGS was a massive surprise to finally see some gameplay.
I’m excited to play some of the games on PS5 one day!
Like i said earlier credit where credit is due.
@Eon
That’s something i have to get used to. I have to see it more like when Ubisoft does their showcase vs Days of Play or Nintendo Direct.
I wished some of these games stayed exclusive. Make it seem like my Series X was a more worthwhile purchase. I use it more for backwards compatibility now so it’s not entirely bad.
Where y'at Obscure? https://ibb.co/qWLK4Zp
You sure have been quiet lately! https://ibb.co/Xk7Y5qj
Elder Scrolls 6 for PS5, please. Also I'd like the Forza franchise, I owned all four of the OG motorsport titles and FM4 is still one of, if not my favourite racing game ever.
NO. This can’t be true. The Xbox influencers on X/Twitter & YouTube who got angry at Phil Spencer then forgave him, guaranteed no other Microsoft games would come to PS5.
@ColtEastwood
@DestinLegarie
@SnapBlastPlay
@MrMattyPlays
@RyanMcCaffrey
@VenomUK
I have seen that colteastwood on x. If you look ul embarrassment in the dictionary a picture of him as a example would be there.
I think people deservidly give obscure a bashing on here. But Colteastwood makes Obscure look like a PS5 cultist haha.
Why forget Sunset Overdrive?
Also there are older titles like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse Son of Rome.
Single-player Bethesda games usually gets better over time with future patches and DLCs
Satya Nadella wants that PlayStation's money, Phil Spinster now is as relevant as MySpace
Phil Spencer (February 15th 2024):
"Looking forward so 4 games no promise beyond that, so if you're on those other platforms and you see these four games coming please don't take it as some signal that everything is coming, it's not."
Phill Spencer (June 9th 2024)
'Our commitment to our Xbox customers is you're going to get the opportunity to buy or subscribe to the game, we're going to support the game on other screens. And you are going to see more of our games on more platforms and we just see that as benefit that the franchises we're building and we see that from players and the players love to be able to play'
I won't be buying any Xbox games anyway, Not going to subsidize their vision of changing gaming industry into streaming everything via a netflix subscription and they are the only choice. Remember when it comes to Microsoft "It's us or no one" You can't complain after they have taken over either.
Especially when they "give" it to Xbox users and expect playstation users to pay full price for it. Like second class citizens.
Ironmike
He will be missed, if he wasn't going to be missed Microsoft wouldn't be putting the games on PlayStation.
Make up your mind xbox guys, do you want to brag about Sea of Thieves success on PlayStation or do you want to cry about all your games going to PlayStation?
So, the benefit of having an Xbox is the option of a subscription service that's more like a buffet and not a deluxe plate. By staying loyal to Xbox means day 1 "free" games of your choice. Xbox is a service.
If rumors are true Xbox is going the 3DO route, Xbox is basically a PC. I mean, since PlayStation caved and started using off the shelf parts to "make it easier on developers", which is a croc as were how far into this console generation and the only devs to really support PS5, kind of, is Insomniac, San Diego, and Santa Monica and we've seen nothing from other devs. PS4 was supposed to be easier so PS5 would be even easier, right? But what've we really seen from Sony first party when it comes to PS5 games? Nothing, they're all still possible on PS4. Xbox? Same thing. Hi-Fi Rush was possible on at least Xbox One X (another lie from Xbox with No one gets left behind). Wow
The original comment still stands, as long as they withold one or two series of games on xbox. Most could come but that still wouldn't mean that you could expect every game to arrive.
I suspect they want people to speculate, because then you don't know whether you should wait for a ps5 port or buy an xbox. Every game is Schroedingers exclusive.
The interpretation of his first comment is not to expect more than these 4 games. The interpretation of the second comment is not to expect any game to be exclusive to Xbox.
His communication is all over the place. The fact that we can't decipher what he means is what people are complaing about. He should simply say, games are coming to PlayStation but we don't have a set policy that applies to all titles. Sometimes less is more.
You can go back further to last year’s Kinda Funny interview with Phil. Microsoft has been slowly getting the Xbox user base ready for this. It’s like the parable about putting a frog into a pot of water and slowly turning up the heat. We will be at boiling when Halo comes to PlayStation.
thats what i mean when i say hes a big bullshitter, girl doesnt rly know what hes talking about.
@purple lol that was a nice 720 doughnut, spin around for a month only to turn his back after the heat died down a bit
There’s this small part of me which wants to think that the reason for Sony being so calm lately, especially after Microsoft’s showcase, is because they know this themselves, and they could know more than what’s being said publicly.
But, Lego Horizon is on the Switch. Why is Nintendo the only comfortable one here. They're not even on PC
Stupid take. The Lego game has been made by a Lego studio with advice on the IP from guerilla games. So part of the negotiations/requirements to make it happen will clearly have been done kind of multiplatform release.
That Lego game definitely exists to get kids to want to buy the proper Horizon games on PS5/PS4 (plus the multiplayer game). It's basically a giant advertisement. And kids love the Switch.
nintendo is comfortable because their first party games sell in the tens of millions.
Sony gives them the PS5's development kit so they know exactly which studios are making games for their consoles, or at least they can make an estimate based on the number of kits requested.
People just loves to talk but in a couple of days this showcase will be already forgotten, and by the way 90% of the stuff shown is multiplatform.
If they wanted xbox cash they would allow gamepass on PlayStation 5
Or just let microsoft buy sony as they could without any issues to there bottom line.
@hof
Are you still in your pre 2010 bubble?
Microsoft is a trillion dollar company without playstation sony would have gone bankrupt years ago that is just facts.
Microsoft q1 2024 made 23.3 billion
https://www.theverge.com/20...
sony all of last year without buying a entire company remember q1 2024 for mircosoft as in spring so sony all 12months made 85 billion.
https://www.macrotrends.net...
Microsoft after buying various companies including acrtivison made 212 billion for 2023
https://www.macrotrends.net...
Sony has not made any big purchases were Microsoft continues to do so in the ai space and gaming space even in the military.
So yes microsoft could easily buy sony and not bat a eye.
Their bottom line is irrelevant a Japanese company like Sony is not going to sell out to an American one so you can go ahead and let that little dream die. Kind of ridiculous to make comment such as yours in an article about the fact more xbox games are coming to other consoles, so who is it that's really hurting for cash here? It's rhetorical you don't have to answer, everyone already knows the answer.
@romulus23
Hurting for cash? blinder on maximum
There doing this to make more cash like the court leak that showed ms wanted gamepass on PlayStation to expand its customer base its all about making more cash.
Right now they are losing out on the full pie by having it on the playstation store but if they buy sony then ms get's 100% of the sale.
Also a japan company not being owned by america? LOL you really do not know what happened after the 40's do you
Or want happened to Toshiba recently
If they toss a bag of billions at sony japan they will accept it
It seems the idea is to have other platforms(PS and PC) offset the cost of game pass.
Xbox users get the games on game pass while others pay full price.
Gamepass seems to be Xbox's idea of "exclusive".
These guys are so inconsistent with their messaging. It's difficult to know exactly what they want to do with their games. I've stopped caring. I just focus on the games.
This. When I saw day one on gamepass for every game I asked myself how will they make money? Answer: release on PS5 and get your sales from there and if lucky leople will sub on PC and XBOX. To ensure consistent subscriptions, space out the games. Either way MS has well and truly effed itself and Phil is a snake standing there pretending they all exclusives.
It doesn't make any sense. I'll readily admit that Lego Horizon on the Switch is messed up.
I see it this way. Gamers are upset for Xbox for going multiplatform, PlayStation has been looking at PC, The Show ended up on Xbox and Switch and neither Xbox nor Nintendo stood up for the industry to say "look, that's not how we do business here. That's up to Sony and we respect that because we see it the same way." And maybe Spencer was that desperate for something quality with a reputation to dig himself out of the hole he got himself into. So there's all this stress and strain but, nobody, not gamers nor publishers noticed little ol Nintendo sitting in the shaded and shadowed corner, like Nintendo didn't seem like much of a threat so everyone saw it as the safe fallback to seem unbiased or like they had blinders. But, Sonys releasing on PC with two games on the Switch now and Xbox is going more and more multiplatform every day. But again, why on the Switch and not on Xbox? Why bother going one way? Because Nintendo agreed to a Zelda movie deal? I think everyone's underestimated what Nintendo is really up to. Nintendo is the ONLY console manufacturer who is solely on Nintendo hardware and has always been so. Nintendo Switch is closing in on the PlayStation 2 hardware overall sales and Nintendo is that close and if they can keep the Switch around long enough, will claim lifetime sales and then announce the Switch 2.
Ya gotta admit that a console that has really limited games where the story is always the same with very few IPs is doing that well..... Why? And now, it's neutral ground for PlayStation and Xbox? What sense does that make? Is PlayStation sore over the fact of Activision? Phil Spencer basically lied under oath (not that an oath actually means anything these days, especially for a business man that someone's found a way to justify the lie and his integrity by saying it was an ignorant omission or something like that, it's Washington State, what more would you expect) but, it's odd. Nintendo is sitting nice and comfy..... It's suspicious
Zelda on 3DO, Mario on PC... you are just too young to remember. Probably too young to remember Nintendo ports to Nvidia Shield TV too.
Also, you dont think that means Diablo, Call of Duty 6, Doom, Elder Scrolls Online, the stuff that's already usually on the hardware?
Hold up! What happened to "xbox doesn't have any good games argument"? I'm all for more games going to other platforms. Microsoft had a great showcase of games yesterday. Even the hardest sony fans had to admit it. Good job Phil.
Well the thing is.....they hardly had any. For 10+ years the whole of the Xbox one gen they failed to bring great games. So they bought a bunch of publishers that had established franchises and now they have great IP's.
I disagree. Microsoft has always had good games in my opinion. It's all a matter of opinion. Yes, they did buy some studios but so have sony. Who cares. I just want good games on my console regardless of where they come from.
Well what happened is they bought other studios that had the good games. As long as MS doesn't get too involved with those games they should turn out good.
Basically they bought their way to successful IP. You give me the same amount of money and even I can own these devs and say I make good games.
But the funny thing is you say what happened...someone tells you and then you say you disagree. Very dishonest of you
I disagreed about them not having great games. Of course they bought studios just like Sony has bought studios. It's been happening throughout the industry for a long time now. It's not that big of a deal to me. Devs need publishers and vice versa. These huge AAA games are very expensive to make nowadays. You guys can't be mad at Microsoft because they didn't force anyone into those purchases. Let's not forget sony has used their money to do similar things. They bought columbia pictures and made some big purchases too. Yea, I know it's not gaming but they don't get a pass because it's basically the same thing just a different industry.
I mean they did have to buy up multiple publishers with some of the top games out there on consoles. Throw in a good 4 to 6 studios as well and bam. Far as saying Ms has no good games. The game show showed the future. It's still slim pickins as of right now what's playable.
Ms purchased two publishers with extremely good selling ips. Stop the bs dog.
Funny on X. Last night lots of Xbox fans where rejoicing about the amazing showcase. Some of the same ones that where rejoicing are now angry at Phill for saying this. I completely understand why though.
So many have not realized xbox is just the new sega but these "fans" were not around for the days after dreamcast.
I remember 2001 and 2002. There are many similarities the only difference is XBOX is drawing it out and not being direct about it. Sega pulled off the plaster and immediately took the plunge. And today Sega is thriving.
@hof
For real?
Sega has shutdown there entire arcade centers in japan only made profit from recent sonic ip and has had bad games launches back to back.
There gambling rooms have kept there light's on
https://techraptor.net/gami...
46 billion yen every quater is only 292 million with game budgets/staff they are not thriving but surviving.
There sales drop 70% in 2020 also
https://www.tweaktown.com/n...
Thanks Phil for putting even more game on Playstation. I'll support you and buy them on Playstation lol cheers
it was a shock but some clung to the copium that it was only going to be 4 games.........c'mon now, the trajectory was clear to those reading the room. MS can make more moola putting their games everywhere like sony potentially could but sony's priority is the hardware and its customers in contrast to xbox who don't mind putting their priorities elsewhere.
We'll see. I think he's referring to Doom Dark Ages, Elder Scrolls Online, Call of Duty 6. Doubt it's Forza, Halo, Fable, Gears of War or anything that's gonna still move some Xbox hardware. Once Xbox moves those, Xbox fans will ditch Xbox so they can't go THAT far
I follow a guy called Tom Warren I believe his name is on X. Now I always take rumours with a heavy dose of salt especially when it comes to X. However, He has revealed a lot of stuff in the few months I have paid attention to him. I think he was the first or one of the first to leak that Microsoft was bringing a few first party titles to Playstation and even revealed the 4 games hours before the xbox business update.
Pretty much revealed Gears was being revealed at the showcase (he did say gears 6 though) as well as doom and fable a day or so before the showcase.
He has said over the last few weeks about this Project Latitude. A internal code of IP's Microsoft are releasing on other platforms. Recently he has said Age of Empires 2 Definitive is targeted to release on PS5 in early 2025. Age of matholgy at some point and apparently Halo CE Remaster to release on ps5. As well as previously saying Gears of war (didn't say if it's the nearly announced E-Day or a collection of the older titles are in consideration.
Again I take these rumours with plenty of salt. But he seems reliable
Either way I will take Gears. Im actually hoping it will be a collection of the first three games, I can wait for Emergence Day.
I'd take Gears 1and 2, Halo Reach, Banjo Kazooie, and any other old Rare game they feel like throwing around.
i thought it was four and no more
know phil suddenly wants to bring every xbox exclusive to playstation
So let’s say those four surprisingly made them a few dollars. Is it unreasonable to go back to the drawing board afterwards and bring more games over?
95% of games are on both consoles. A few more aren't gonna really matter. These are business decisions. Nothing more. Sony is slowly doing similar things. Some gamers won't like it but it's the way the industry is headed.
Just because they are doing multiplat, that doesn’t mean all games. I wouldn’t be surprised if a majority of the games showed were delayed or not multiplat at all.
only one game I wont mind playing,and that is one of the gears of war. The rest I have no interest in.
Imagine being able to go on nintendo eshop, download fable 1 but the enhanced 360 version, fable 2 lol that would be dope, fable on the go hell yeah
If it is about making money then MS should put the games on as many platforms as possible as it is clear the Xbox base is too small and Gamepass is not growing at the pace they anticipated, so getting your games in more gamers hands is a good thing to me. MS should stop dancing around this and just rip the band-aid off.
I don’t think Perfect Dark will come to PlayStation and if it does it’ll be a year wait at least. Even Xbox understands the necessity to have some must play exclusives on their platform. Whether it’s Elder Scrolls, Gears, or Perfect Dark, timed exclusives in the least bit I’m betting one or more will remain exclusive.
You don't drop 80 billion+ on a bunch of studios and games just to wall them off on your own console that is not selling as well. If Microsoft wants to make the big money they would be better off focusing on the SOFTware part of their business.
100% agree with you. People on here used the same argument but the other way around when they bought Bethesda and Activision. They ain't going to spend $80billion on these publishers just to put them on all platforms.
It's true that Microsoft probably hoped that getting these big publishers would lead to 100+ million gamepass subs each month. Since that ain't happed they need them other platforms.
Serious burn Mr Baker
I think Randy is just stirring up any controversy he can to make people forget about the child porn thing
Troy Baker, what a legend!
Pitchford is a known liar, so this doesn't surprise me
Randy Pitchford? LYING?
I am SHOCKED!