Video Games Are for Everyone And so Should Sekiro

With so many different takes floating around regarding Sekiro, let's take a deep dive into why having more accessibility is always a good thing in games, especially for challenging ones.

[Juusterey]

Not all games are for all people.

[PiNkFaIrYbOi]

Yep, there is also personal preference on what type of games you like and ones that you don't like.

[bouzebbal]

Haha omg... I wanna leave this planet I'm done

[Sono421]

I'm seriously gonna stay away from N4G for a week or two, we are just getting bombarded with articles like these, they are so boring and say the same thing just worded differently. I want news not all of this garbage, i'm out see you in 1-2 weeks.

[DaReapa]

@Sono
These Sekiro difficulty articles have become the battle royal games of journalism.

[starchild]

Yes, but third person games should offer first person perspectives for gamers that prefer first person, and vice versa. Easy games need to offer a hardcore difficulty mode that's well balanced and deep for gamers that prefer it.

Where does it end?

[Babadook7]

“Video Games Are for Everyone And so Should Sekiro”

Yep. Get gud people!

[RedDevils]

This type of nonsense article remind me of crossplay bs.

[ravinash]

About games being for everyone..

No one would ever say all movies are for everyone.
In fact there are good arguments to say the opposite.
Games, like movies, novels, paintings... is art. You can't make something that will make everyone happy.
In fact when ever your see examples where people have tried to make something that appeals to everyone, usually ends up the most boring lifeless crap that no one wants to waste their time on.

Art is the communication of ideas... if you take all the messages out of it, then what are you left with?
The difficulty of soul games is part of what makes them what they are.

[harmny]

Exactly. Epic game store exclusives are not for crybabies. I don't know why they keep whining

[Nitrowolf2]

That’s a completely different issue.....

[Wolffenblitz]

@Nitrowolf2

He's trolling. it's pretty obvious why people are saying it's bad that the EGS is holding games hostage.

[Tross]

@Juusterey I’m not sure how that’s a hard concept for people to grasp, but apparently it is or we wouldn’t keep seeing these articles.

[rainslacker]

People grasp the concept. They still want an easier mode. I think as it is now though, it's more the media capitalizing on a hot topic, fly by night issue, which will be forgotten in a week or two like almost everything else is, just like this same issue has in the past.

[Unspoken]

Attention is money.

[Silly Mammo]

Why is this From Software game the game that seems to be getting the most traction about an easy mode? It's certainly not their first game that was difficult. Does Sekiro have such mainstream appeal? I'm not a hardcore fan of this genre, but I did think Bloodborne and DS3 were fantastic games. But I realized going into these games that they would be hard and felt theextreme satisfaction of beating them.

[krauley]

Because there are more entitled shits than ever before, thats why. oh and if you dont like it fuck off!

[NXFather]

Politics

[DrumBeat]

Because Sekiro is a ninja guy and everyone wants to be a sweet ninja! The only problem is, well, it's too harrdddddd. 😭

[nitus10]

@krauley

Crude, rude and definitely to the point. 😊

[pitythefool]

Because From Software games score really well, pretty much all these complaints could be applied to The Surge, a game scorning in the 70’s and ...... crickets.

People think they’re missing out and get bruised egos when they can’t beat them.

[rainslacker]

The souls games in general have gained a pretty positive reputation with each one, and the bloodborne being so highly rated, its caused more people to pay attention. If more are asking, it's probably because more people who aren't familiar with the fact they're considered hard, or require heavily on learning the mechanics and timings, that they end up not being able to play them in the normal form, thus they ask for it to be easier.

As far as the numerous topics on the article, its nothing new, but with it getting so much attention this time, every journalist feels the need to add their own opinion piece, which keeps the discussion going. I think most of us around here have pretty much said what we have to say about it, but like most things, we get to repeat it with each new article.

[MajorLazer]

For fuck sake! Where does it stop if such a thing is implemented? Have the game be played automatically and the gamer just watches so that it can make it accesible for literally everyone?

[notachance]

nah it still wouldnt be accesible for blind people

[NXFather]

Detroit

[MajorLazer]

@NX

Detroit's gameplay is literally that. That was how the creator wanted it, and that's how he made it because it's his vision at the end of the day and you gotta respect that

[Seraphim]

that was my first thought when reading the headline.

Video games are for everyone but yes, not all video games are for everyone.

[hiawa23]

And that should be determined by each gamer based on the options devs provide them for enjoying their games which may differ from how you enjoy and play your games.

[rainslacker]

So people aren't allowed to ask for an easy mode? What's wrong with asking? Most aren't demanding, nor would demanding really make much difference. No one is saying the dev needs to remove what's there, just add to it. Dont we do this on a daily basis? Aren't there those who are now saying fit gud whi often say that some company absolutely has to do something while spouting disdain towards said company? The only difference here is that those asking aren't trying to put down the dev.

[DrumBeat]

Agreed. Can't hack it? Keep trying til you do, or don't play it. You lazy, corner cutting crybabies aren't getting your diaper mode. Not going to happen.

Learn the game, learn the patterns, and up your reflexes. FromSoftware isn't going to coddle you.

[zugdar]

Agreed. Just like some movies and shows target a particular audience. I'm not sure how this is so hard for people to get on board with.

[Imortus_san]

100% correct.

[sKiiTs8]

i get that, but say there was an easy mode, what difference does it make? do you think it'll harm the community? it might, so i understand the debate on both sides.

[wolf581]

Exactly...next lets ask Ferrari to make cheaper cars so anyone can afford one ahaaahaaaa

[savedsynner]

Exactly. That's like saying a restaurant needs to serve all kinds of food, and not be casual or fine dining. Or professional football should allow all people to play regardless of physical capability. From makes a product, and that product appeals to certain types of gamers. If you don't like it....don't play it. Now, you could argue from a business perspective From's games should be more widespread appealing but that's not the argument he makes. It's just another snowflake whining about equal outcome vs equal opportunity.

[Reefskye]

Maybe not but the more people can play your game the more sales you get, the death of games like quake and unreal tournament prove this, its why games like fornite are so successful easy to get in too and to get kills. Where as harder more skilled based games that require alot of practise to be half decent don't sell anymore. Why loot shooters and MMOs drop gear for fun these days and not like they use to quick easy feeling of achievement. Gaming is main stream now for the masses, games will never be as hard as they once where

[Adexus]

Why does a game or any other type of entertainment have to cater to everyone? If it's not for you then don't play, or watch it.

[Atom666]

It doesn't, and it can't. But we see disability accommodations for most types of entertainment. Other forms of media try to be accommodating more than games too.

The current discussion is about gamers with disabilities being unable to enjoy a game due to their limitations. As a community, we should be getting behind saying that all games should be "for you" regardless of your physical or mental disability.

[ArchangelMike]

Oh right, so lets go crap on devs for not making VR games accessible for the sight impaired and blind gamers.

smh

[Atom666]

Who's crapping on devs? The discussion (on the one side at least) has been quite respectful, and has aimed at opening the discussion up to a different perspective of this debate.

Do you scream at people using CC on movies and TV: "git gud at hearing!" Do you cry about the artistic vision of a concert when they offer ASL translators at a show?

Well maybe you do...but as someone who grew up with cheat codes, "God mode", debug modes, etc., I don't think the gaming industry would crumble by listening to well-reasoned feedback from a part of the gaming community and throwing them a bone.

[The Wood]

that bone would be a notice akin to an age restriction notice to tell the consumer the game is effin hard or not for the brittle. Imagine artists be it music or film makers having to cater for everyone or dumbing down their movies for those who find their movies hard to digest. No way mate. Let the provider focus on their product and be true to their vision. This is getting ridiculous.

[Atom666]

Or just throw some cheat codes on there. What does that hurt?

It's not about age or not understanding the product. This particular discussion is about people who physically cannot play some games and want the devs to consider them.

I'm sure the vision of the new Avengers movie is to have some of the best sound design of any Marvel movie. Some people will enjoy it without hearing it at all...because they can't. I would love to see the director come out and say "No CC! It's not our vision!!"

So I'm sorry, I support their efforts on this game and others. Because it's a SP game, these accomodations make more sense. It doesn't hurt the product to think of ways to accommodate some people who still want to enjoy a game despite their disabilities.

Some of the best games ever made have allowed cheats and mods. Maybe it's time more devs realize how that simple addition helped people in ways they may not have realized.

[ZombieGamerMan]

https://www.youtube.com/cha... Okay tell that guy how he needs an easy mode to play Sekiro

[antz1104]

That's a garbage argument. The core of the issue has nothing to do with accessibility. At the end of the day it's about gamers whining that Sekiro is too hard, they're not getting an easy mode, and now they're hiding behind a banner of disabled individuals who they don't care about to push their issue. It's pretty pathetic.

[Atom666]

2 different groups antz. Look at the article for more links.

[OB1Biker]

Its an excuse to thicken the journalists controversy. Accessibility is welcome in any game but has nothing to do with easy modes. Its different. Accessibility is more like the Ms controller or specific remapping or keyboards etc

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@antz1104
Its not gamers whining. Its journalists. Many gamers just follow the bait
The funny part is they end up saying gamers are crying or outraged by easy modes while its the exact oposite. They are making up an outrage against games with no easy mode and gamers who dont want to force DS games to change.

[ArchangelMike]

You're missing the point. Not all disabilities can be accommodated for unfortunately. It would require a different game as a whole and completely different control schemes. You would need to design the game specifically to cater for the various disabilities, which maybe beyond the scope of many devs.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

If it's about gamers with disabilities, why is it always From Software games that get these corny ass articles littering the internet? If it's disabilities, it's literally every game ever made. But it's not. It's yet another Sekiro article. Much ado about nothing.

[NXFather]

That what Twitch for. Just get yo controller and mash da buttons.

Also Youtube.

[Atom666]

I would encourage some of you guys to read the piece submitted by Cherry Thompson

https://m.ign.com/articles/...

Or follow people like Steven Spohn on Twitter.

Not everything is black and white. Some are pushing this conversation for very good reasons, and not just because the guy at Forbes sucks at games.

A game like Sekiro is going to be modded on PC in a number of ways, yet From's "vision" will remain the same. Button mapping will be performed on all platforms, yet the "vision" remains.

The dismissiveness some of you guys are showing is pretty low.

[OB1Biker]

You talk about 'dismissiveness' but you and this article are missing the point and actually dissmissing it.
Accessibility for gamers with disability are nd difficulty scaling are very different things.
You know well these journalist are singling out DS games. OK?
Accessibility for gamers with disability should be a concern for every game. OK?
There's an obvious hypocrisy here that you should see plain as it is.
If you want to champion accessibility then it doesn't make sense to focus on games which are specifically made to be Difficult.
Accessibility is not meant to lower the difficulty. It's to make all games accessible and therefore make difficult games accessible for anyone who want to experience difficult games because if those games aren't difficult then they just lose most of their hook.
Its a false pretence to attack DS for their difficulty. It's what they are. Difficult games.
Make difficult games accessible is a good intend but they need remain difficult and it's in their design.
An easy mode is completely different and should not be forced to developers. In other times it would be called harassment and entitlement.

[The Wood]

Lol. Never seen this type of crying for an easy mode on super meat boy or many of the countless hard games over the years. Look mate. . . Some games are not meant for everyone. Part of their charm is down to their difficulty. Is it unfair I can't buy a Ferrari because of my height and lack of finance. . . .c'mon

[shadowraiden]

please dont bring up the disability as an excuse. when there is now people with disabilities showcasing them beating sekiro with there mouth etc.

for example this guy doesnt even cheese and make the fight easier and hes a quadriplegic.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[UltraNova]

The wood,

Man lets do it, lets start a "Make Ferraris accessible" movement. Common dude lets cry our asses out for it!

[Atom666]

The reason Sekiro is being brought up in the accessibility discussions is because of the able-bodied journalists and players calling for an easy mode for other reasons.

In response to the "git gud" crowd that pops up to rebut them, advocates began to speak out and say: "some of us ask for difficulty adjustments for very valid reasons." So while some journalists push an easy mode idea due to a lack of skill and patience, some with valid gripes used that discussion to remind people that not everyone asking for it are whining because they stink at games.

That seems like an opportune time to have that discussion to me.

Accessibility can be a difficulty slider, closed captions, color blind mode, or hand pedals on a Ferrari.

[savedsynner]

I am all for making game accessible for those with disabilities, but that doesn't mean you artificially change your product. The onus is on PS4 to allow disabled people to play games, not the devs. And why are these people all of a sudden complaining about From's difficulty. Sekiro isn't any worse than Dark souls when you play without a guide.

[carcarias]

With respect though, Sekiro and Souls games are made around the difficulty from the ground up. You simply don't have much of a game without the difficulty. It's not Witcher 3, if you know what I mean?

It could be argued the Souls games have really large, varied areas with RPG elements to customise your character but with Sekiro, they've made the areas smaller, there are less basic enemies, the distance between idols is quite short and it has hardly any rpg elements at all. The bosses and their difficulty is literally the whole purpose of this game. If that doesn't suit someone, then they really aren't missing out. I think those that want to play the game on easy would actually be really disappointed with the game.

The game is getting 9's because of the way the game feels, and the vast majority of that is the difficulty. Take that away and you've got a fairly short, hollow, but albeit quite pretty, hack and slash. People might feel they are missing out on a 9/10 experience but, although it's highly subjective, without the difficulty I certainly wouldn't have bothered playing it. There's not enough 'game' there.

In short, it's not necessarily about 'git gud' or the degrading of gaming, it's about the fact that lowering the difficulty cripples the gameplay, imho. As a developer, I wouldn't want my game going from a 9/10 experience for some to a 6/10 for others. Having said that, if FS did include an easy setting, it wouldn't bother me.

[rainslacker]

Most of the crying I'm seeing is people who feel that those asking for an easy mode are even asking for it, usually followed by some assumptive insults. Those that may be ok with it aren't really pressing the issue like these articles seem, nor do any of the people for it seem like their life would be irrevocably ruined if it doesn't happen. Alternatively, it seems those against it seem to think that they will somehow lose something from the game itself in the process, and they lash out against what is a rather mundane topic.

Maybe I should take notes though, because 9 out of 10nof these same people will sit there and talk crap about what a company needs to do, or put down a game for any given reason, or say how they dont want something the game is doing....like lack of jumping in the new God of war.

The arguments for and against on this topic could literally be applied to almost every discussion that is had on here where people say they want something.

I understand there are some strong feelings about this with those against it, but not a single person has expressed a good reason why it should matter that much to them. The dev not wanting to do it should be enough, but there is still nothing wrong with people expressing a desire to have fun with the game. So long as it doesn't affect the fans or general developers vision.

And I'll end with, an easier mode doesn't have to be a super easy, hold your hand game. Could just be the difficulty is dialed back some. Plenty of games do this without having a negative effect on then other modes.

[Atom666]

@Carcarias

I don't disagree with your position entirely. Personally, I would not play a From game on "easy" or use cheats and mods for the reasons you describe. But it doesn't affect my enjoyment or my rating of the game if others do though.

Again, people are conflating two separate groups. Some argued that the game is too difficult for their skill level just in general. I personally might join you in saying that a dev shouldn't feel compelled to change their product to accommodate those people, but there's another perspective that many are missing and is the reason we're seeing some people from this other community speak out at this time.

With the "easy mode" discussions and in response to those speaking out against the complaining journalists, people affiliated with groups like Ablegamers spoke up and said, Hey, some people ask for difficulty sliders due to their disabilities.

There's no call to boycott, no dev attacks, and no threat to our enjoyment of games. Like this particular article shows, it's about voicing an opinion from a different angle that many gamers and possibly devs haven't considered.

In my opinion, if someone with a disability says "Adding a health buff would allow me to enjoy the same game as you," then my response wouldn't be to tell them that the game just isn't meant for them. I'm not sure why so many people actually want to argue in support of that stance either.

[OB1Biker]

Man, accessibility is simply a different issue and is a concern for EVERY game. It's a bad idea to drown that fair intent with DS type of games. Make all casual game more accessible to start with and helping a lot more people. Have this discussion about games in general. Single out DS games is NOT helping
It's just not helping anything to mix accessibility into a different issue.
It's clear that some are just trying to move goal posts to suit an agenda, is what it is.

[NXFather]

Man they better hit the Youtube or Twitch and lay it down.

[Thundercat77]

The same applies to crossplay.

[rainslacker]

And what is the issue if it caters to more people if it doesn't affect what the current customers are getting

[isarai]

No they're not, and no it shouldnt be. It should stay however the team wants it to be

[harmny]

And why do gamers keep telling Bioware how shitty anthem is? The team wants it to be that way.

[Juusterey]

Intentional does not mean good

[ShinRon]

cept bioware isn't saying thats how its intended

[ZombieGamerMan]

@harmny Not even BioWare wants it that way

[TimeSkipLuffy]

That's fine if they want it that way. A lot of gamers just like to share their opinions. And if Bioware doesn't care about it, then that's fine, too. But they shouldn't cry when they all loose their jobs.

[rainslacker]

No one is saying that sekiro is bad. Or its ar lease far from common consensus. They're saying they want to play the game, but can't or won't because they find it too hard.

Anthem is a bug ridden, poorly designed , light in content, and unbalanced in game play type of game.

People are criticizing anthem for that, whole people are just saying they'd like an easier mode in sekiro. If some are taking the lack of easy mode as criticism, then they misjudge the situation, and maybe it's why they get so pissy and insulting of others. But if that's the case, maybe they should examine if they're too emotionally invested in the dev or their games.

[sinspirit]

Mario games should also be for gore-fest intense gruesome adult gamers as well

/s

Why even have a strategy genre? There should always be a mode for someone that can't even play checkers or tic tac toe. Just turn on a cheat mode where everything is one hit kill. It may destroy all the balancing, progression, and importance of game design, but hey, let someone who doesn't even want to enjoy the game at all for what the game is have god mode by a default difficulty setting.

Just imagine GTA without any resistance from NPC's when you do bad things. It wouldn't even be grand theft auto at that point. Just aggressive borrowing, lol

[william_cade]

And music is for everyone and movies are for everyone. Tell us God of opinion pieces what music should we all like? Experimental music shouldn't exist ( I personally I can't stand it but it needs to be made for everyone) I suppose David Lynch films should be stricken from the film archives too. All NES games need to be burned or retroactively made easier. Seriously, you've got to be a jerk to even think of this stuff.

Not everyone gets a trophy.

[CoinOrc]

Deeply flawed analogy. No one is asking From Software to make their games easier. People are asking From Software to put in an easy mode as an option which you can turn on or off.

[william_cade]

See example below with your deeply flawed.

You obviously didn't see this one to the end deeply flawed..

[pitythefool]

One group is asking for a mode the devs never intended to be an option, the other group isn’t asking any devs to take easy modes away that are options in other games.

Which side is really being unreasonable.

[Abriael]

which is literally "making the game easier."

[CoinOrc]

@william
I have no idea what you are talking about. Learn to write properly.

@fool
One side is asking for the developer to add an easy mode. The other side is asking the developer to refrain from adding an easy mode. It’s as simple as that. No other games are involved in this discussion. Neither side is more reasonable than the other.

@abriael
Um... no, it’s not. It’s an option.

[Sirk7x]

"Independent art films are too confusing, they should have dumber dialogue and more explosions."

[Cueil]

I read a romance book that turned into a hard core werewolf horror novel.

[porkChop]

No game is for everyone. Some games utilize difficulty as an integral part of the experience. If the game is too difficult, or too fast for you, then the game just isn't for you. I don't enjoy fighting games due to the input speeds and complexity of what's required from the player. But I don't expect anyone to make an easier fighting game for me, I understand that the genre just isn't for me.

[CoinOrc]

Every fighting game has difficulty options.

[porkChop]

I'm not talking about difficulty modes in fighting games. I'm talking about the nature of that kind of experience and how it isn't for me. When it comes to Soulslikes, the difficulty and what is required from the player are essential to the nature of the experience. I don't expect that experience or vision to be compromised for me, because I'm clearly not the target audience.

[remixx116]

There's no better way to put it, I love fighting games yet most of my friends aren't fans of them and I can't blame them, I spend alot of time labbing combos and setups and I honestly can't ask someone else to be willing to do that just to fight effectively. It's just not for everyone.

[uth11]

Right The Fromsoft trial-and-error is so integral to the experience that without it you will not be playing the same game. not only that, you probabaly would not even like resulting game all that much.

Almost like how many many times has McDonalds experimented with higher quality menu items over the years, only to scrap them and go back to basics because nobody goes to McDonalds for gourmet food. Serve the niche you have, don't try to be something you're not because chances are it won't work out like you think

[rainslacker]

I can't think of any fighting game which doesn't allow for the button mashers to enjoy it as well. Maybe a few of the Aksys ones, but you can button mash those up to a point.

Is the experience different in a fighting game because of difficulty options if you aren't playing on those lower difficulties? I am a bit of a button masher is fighting games. I can often get the same sense of anxiety, or same rush of victory on those fights that crop up and tax your skills. Happens a lot playing against others, but a lot of AI is pretty good nowadays.

If a player isn't as good at the game, or doesn't have the time to devote to it, the lowered difficulty can have the same effect, except they may see more light at the end of the tunnel, instead of feeling endlessly frustrated. Personally, I dont play games to be frustrated. Challenged at times, sure. But not challenged to the point that it just isn't fun anymore.

[italiangamer]

I swear this is becoming a tragicomedy.

[ArchangelMike]

The most retarded article on this issue so far. Do you know why games come with an age rating?

Because games are not for everyone. That would be a game with an 'E for everyone' rating. Not even Mario games have an 'E for everyone' rating.

[Psychotica]

Not sure why anyone disagreed with you because that's exactly right.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

Video games aren’t for everyone. Nor all people like to play video games. Plus, no game is for every gamer.

[FTLmaster]

What a load of cobblers

[jeki]

These articles are just clickbait at this point, controversy gets clicks.

[capjacksparrow]

When asked if every video game, including Sekiro, should be for everyone, you said "yes."

Common sense has determined that was a lie.

[TheOptimist]

Sekiro is for everyone to play.

I am pretty sure if From Soft made the gameplay accessible someone definitely would say "From Soft needs to respect its players and give more cutscenes To Explain The Story".

Just because someone can see everything an art form has to offer doesn't mean they understand it. A movie like Shutter Island, an anime like Evangelion, a book like The Alchemist, obviously everyone can see/read them, but not everyone can understand the. Gaming is a totally different kind of medium which requires mechanical and mental skill to progress.

[Tross]

This again? Are games journalists these days all a bunch of pansies?

[Larrysweet]

I agree should be lesser mode but these article just pathetic now

[Vanfernal]

Anyone can playing Sekiro... Only skilled people can beat it though... And you gain that by perseverance. I was raised playing Ghosts N Goblins, Ninja Gaiden, Battletoads, etc. To this day, I can't beat those games. And you know what? I'm fine with that. I'm not skilled enough to beat them. End of story. Do they need an easy mode? No. Sometimes you just gotta admit you're not good enough and move on to other things. Instead they want to lower the bar just so that they can overcome an obstacle. That's not how life works.

[rainslacker]

I usually have more fun playing older games that are hard, compared to newer games that are hard. But some games that are hard nowadays are hard because they're poorly designed, or have overly complex controls. Older games tended to have simpler mechanics, but hard to master areas to get past, coupled with bullshit AI patterns meant to kill the player

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

Simple and plain, and if they can't understand that...oh well.

[PaleMoonDeath]

That's like saying every book suits every taste, or every movie will be enjoyed, doesn't work like that. Quite odd that needs to be explained.. basic stuff.

[bluefox755]

This is just rage bait at this point. They know it'll get clicks. Gaming journalists are no different than CNN and other journalists. They have zero conviction, it's all about clicks and ratings, honesty be damned.

[Movefasta1993]

People are lazy ,they don't want to get better. I recently started playing MW2 on pc, and im still a baby when it comes to playing competitively with keyboard and mouse, and i swear for the first few games I went like 3-20 5-20, it was really bad. But now my kd is positive, I'm gradually getting good at the game. The souls games are not that hard, these guys Im convinced wouldn't have been able to beat ng black on normal or 2. Those games are way harder than the souls games.

[bacrec1]

Kids..

[Battlestar23]

I platinumed Sekiro and i don't understand how people are finding trouble with the games difficulty. The game was easier then all the dark souls games or even bloodborne which i also platinumed.

[WickedLester]

How about this. How about we let the game developers make whatever they want and let it find its audience instead of gamers acting like game development is a "joint effort" endeavor between developers and consumers. If you find a game to be too hard for you, then the game is obviously not for you. Move on and find a game that is for you. The onus is on YOU to find a game that suits your gaming taste, not the developers! If it's a game as a service, that's one thing where community feedback is important data for the developers to take and adjust their game accordingly. The same rules do not apply to single player, story driven games like Sekiro

[Vetalka83]

i can smell easy mode coming soon

[TheHan]

The game is great I was expecting a nice badass like Ninja Gaiden difficulty wise. It would be better if it was so it may cater to more players. Instead of this Lords of the fallen/Darksouls wannabe. It would have far more success if it was.

I’m not saying change the gameplay but make it easier for those to enjoy it more than to die constantly and less likely to quit in the middle of the game. I just find it frustrating that once you beat someone you’ve been trying to finish for days and then you get stuck all over again trying to beat another level.

[Juusterey]

What makes you think it would be more successful?
These games have built up a large fanbase by doing what they do

[TheHan]

I’m sorry I wish I could edit this post but it reminds me a lot like the Tenchu series that FromSoftware has done in the past. Which I’m in love with

[ShockUltraslash]

I want sexy costumes in Horizon and giant demon boss battles in Red Ded redemption.

[rainslacker]

Sexy costumes in horizon would be cool. Especially for that elder that sends aloy on her quest. She was pretty smokin'.

And RDR2 may actually be more interesting with a demon boss battle. Certainly better than hillbillys, a bear, some stereotypical Pinkerton agents, that cliched guy who used Dutch and the predictable Dutch himself.

[soulrebel]

When the headline isn't a coherent sentence....

[staticall]

I don't remember Sekiro being advertised as a game for everyone. It's a game from a "From Software", their games are always specific, hard, you knew what you were getting into.

Why this is an issue, seriously? From Software games are always about adapting, learning patters, reaction time. Play more, study enemy patterns, understand when to parry and counter-attack, learn from your mistakes. They even gave you a second try, basically, what else do you want?!

[arkard]

Same can be said for every form of entertainment then. I don't like romance movies, make them accessible to me with some Saw like traps and John Wick gunplay. And Taylor Swift? I expect some death metal vocals and face melting guitar solos on the next album.

[TheHan]

This game reminds me of the Tenchu series that FromSoftware has done in the past. Truly like the game. I take back my previous comment which was I’ll thought of.

[Godmars290]

It is for everyone. Everyone who can and wants to play it.

That some cannot finish it much less get past the first boss is not its fault...

Just like "movies" is a broad term which includes differing types or genres not everyone will be interested in or into, games are not just "games".

[Markusb33]

n4g is getting like cnn, full of pandering articles to people who dont understand games or the history.
when i started gaming many games didnt have any difficulty settings for people who were not ready to learn and get good at a game. Grow the fuk up

[BizarroUltraman]

Nah..... Its not rated E!!!

[MetroidFREAK21]

Another Sekiro article... Yawn

[ShinRon]

i love when ppl take other ppls work then make claims for what its intended for.

/sarcasm

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Generation Snowflake writes another article.....

[howiewowwee]

games like video chat are not for everyone.

[katzura66]

This is what happens in a generation where everyone gets a participation trophy, pathetic.

[Sweetbrandigirl]

Thre are different types of games for different types of gamers, Sekiro may just NOT be for you. So either Git Gud or walk on by.

[mechlord]

Money is for everyone. Bill gates is a billionaire, so should we. How about that.

[DarthZoolu]

Get good or get rekt!

[Skuletor]

Demons Souls, Dark Souls, Dark Souls II, Dark Souls III and Bloodborne, all these From software games are notorious for their challenging difficulty and any gamer that's been paying attention would know what to expect from a From Software game. If those games weren't for you, Sekiro probably isn't either.

[SinisterKieran]

get good scrubs

[Nucler100]

ENNOOUUUGHH

[Mr Marvel]

No game is for everyone.
Battle Royale, Free-to-Play & mobile garbage games aren’t for me... but Sekiro definitely IS for me.

Part of the appeal of the game is it’s difficulty and knowing that I can’t turn the difficulty down.
I don’t want to be the one to say it, but the point of this game is for you to learn how to get good at it.

[rainslacker]

I think the point of the article is actually about those with disabilities, and how making it accessible can be a good thing for everyone.

That said, for the non disabled gamer, it can be for everyone. They are all free to buy it and try it...age rating permitting. Whether they like what it has to offer is a different matter.

[ZombieGamerMan]

Games are for everyone, but not all games are for everyone. Leave Sekiro alone, not every game needs an easy mode so people who find it too hard can enjoy it

[Joshjwill]

Sorry but no this isn't for everyone games are but not particular games that aim for difficulty

[hiawa23]

The widest amount of gamers devs can appeal to the better as far as I am concerned, no debate needed.

[quent]

Hidden gem puzzle games are a brainless borefest and I loathe playings them, screw all those housewifes who actually casually enjoy these types of games change it for meeeeeeeee

[frostypants]

Every game should just let you repeatedly press the same button to proceed and let you be invulnerable. After all, they should be for everyone, even the grossly incompetent! /s

[Nacho_Z]

These articles can F off now. There's nothing more to be said on the issue.

[Imalwaysright]

?? Anyone that wants to play the game can buy it and play it.

[salmonade]

Yeah. Games are for EVERYONE, so Make it easy enough so my Mom can play and beat the game. She can press buttons like anyone else. STUPID ARTICLE

[ReNe9aaDe]

Ohh ffs enough of this. Are the Alien movies for everyone. Even the Marvel movies aren’t for everyone. So just back the fuck off Sekiro!
Sekiro is my current GOTY and yes it’s hard but the adrenaline rush partially arrives from that difficulty.

[VTKC]

"Video games are for everyone, and so should Sekiro" Not if you are under 18 it's not. the title is like some sort of liberal sjw statement. Whats with all these moronic articles whining about how hard this game is and demanding an easy mode like it's their god given right? The self entitlement is overwhelming. The game is hard because the people who made decided it to be. Just like Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls and Bloodborne. Can't handle it? Deal with it! How? Play something else! I hope the makers of this game don't decide to give in to these whiny self entitled idiots and make an easy mode.

[AK91]

HAHAHAHAHA.............No

[gleepot]

How about games are as accessible as the people who made them wanted them to be, and then the people who want to finish those games deal with playing at the required level to do so?

[NEVMOR]

This issue is as tired as Playstation and cross play!

[Silly gameAr]

It's funny you mention that, because take a guess at what they're trying to make a hot topic again?

[psuedo]

Freedom of expression, and American rights. If I want to make a game unbeatable until a million people buy it that would be worth changing...go play ironsword or some old 2d games. Stop crying jeeeeeezus

[MetalGearAlex]

you're full of b.s. Sekiro is supposed to be hard. but having "accessibility" options for the handicapped would be ok. but not LET'S MAKE EVERYTHING EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.

[TheUpbringer]

Here we go again

[BlindMango]

When are these people gonna write articles on SpongeBob needing a hard difficulty? Do they not understand the difficulty itself is ingrained into the identity and actual gameplay of the game??

[tochi]

What the hell is this guy talking about?
Sekiro and all Souls games are totally beatable to anyone who devote enough effort on thinking and researching. If those games are bricked by inescapable levels of skill challenges, no one would have given Souls name to the genre.

There is always another way to beat enemies. You just need to think and find it. That is the point of the game.
Early difficulty of Souls game serves as training wheels for it.

So-called easy mode will make the game more inaccessible to general audience. Because the easy mode will not teach novice players how to think about strategy in early stages, resulting a head on collision to boss in later without any hopes other than skill.

[Strange]

Ever thought why there are ESRB ratings?

[ferhound]

I uninstalled the shit out of it.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

Lol

[Uglyday]

Writing is for everyone and so should article.

[BadElf]

nooo no.

Gamers enjoy videogames.

[Storm Shadow NF]

OMG cry baby snow flake liberals want everything given to them. I’m half way in Sekiro and I rang the hard bell 🤣. If they think this is hard the should try Nioh DLC or the original Ninja Gaiden Hahahah

[yellowgerbil]

I agree now all that gay porn needs a few chicks so there's something there for me

[Redrex7000]

Aren't all u idiot just bringing attention to this
hehehehe

[Omar3li]

Had enough of these click baits

[SENILEdad]

If people would spend 10 minutes with the training mode. There would be no reason for an easy mode.

[PCgamer98]

Lol talk about the entitlement. People should just accept that like real life not everything is for everyone.

[CrimsonWing69]

Are all movies, music, and books for everyone? No!

Sekiro is a hardcore game for hardcore players. My god, get over it if you can’t play it! How many opinion pieces do we need to have spammed on this news site about how inclusive hard games need to be for people who can’t play it!?

[MaximusTKG]

Not all games are for all people. There is even a rating system attached to every game, literally showing you how not all games are for everyone.

[ChunkyHD]

*Cuphead wants to know your location*

[monochromer]

Feel better, journalist? You also have an opinion on the big topic of the week! Thanks for sharing, Mr. Important.

[AfricanWoolf]

Movies have age restrictions. Games have skill restrictions. Even if you don't agree - freedom to create whatever you want is the whole point of entertainment.

[Sirk7x]

Books are for everyone too, but it doesn't mean that someone in elementary school can understand college textbooks.

[uth11]

but we need to fix this! /s

[Vokun13]

Why is all Sekiro difficulty business such a big deal?

[jassao]

I'm blind, and this article was not accommodating to my disability, please make it accessible for me and also for illiterate people, also my preferred language is Chinese, writing it in English made my experience much harder, at the end EVERYONE WINS if you make it more accessible.

[uth11]

then the author should come to your house and read it to you in Chinese. it's only fair, right?

[ger2396]

I don't understand their argument, no one is forced to buy this game. If you do buy a From Software game, you know exactly what you're getting into.

[uth11]

it is a stupid argument, but it annoys people and therefore gets clicks and attention, hence its existance

[warriorcase]

Difficulty of games will now be the next clickbait well websites come to drain dry.

[Elda]

Again?!!

[Mfm]

Obviously this guy didnt find the buddha bell, it makes it easier even tho you gain less xp and sen! It not that hard to find either... keep searchin man, its out there!

[Mulletino]

Now this is just getting ridiculous.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

No, not all games are for everyone.
There are plenty of games that aren't going to suit the tastes of plenty of gamers, and that's not a sin!

The "git inclusive" crowd has started becoming just as toxic as the "git gud" crowd can be.

Normally I could ignore that...

But what pisses me off, BIG TIME, is that, recently, there is a small but vocal minority of very >not-disabled< gamers out there, who are perfectly capable of learning and beating games like Sekiro and Dark Souls but are just too lazy to put in the effort, who are trying to use >ACTUALLY disabled< gamers as scape-goats to push their "everything should have an easy mode!" agenda.

Using the legitimately-disabled as an "add easy mode" pity-plea, to excuse their own refusal to learn the game and overcome its challenge, is really a new low for these gamers.
It's sickening, tbh, and I feel sorry for the legitimately-disabled gamers out there, whose voices are getting drowned out by these lazy fakers.

Yes, there should be games out there that are designed to cater to the disabled [there's a lack of this and that should change], just as there should be, and are, games out there that cater to the casuals only or the hardcore only, to the action lovers and the racing game lovers, etc etc etc.

It's ok to have games that are focused towards specific demographics.

But it's not okay to try and force a game, that is designed for a certain crowd, to have to change itself, for the sake of the whims of people that don't honestly care about playing it unless they get it altered to their demands first, much less care about the success or failure of the game on the open market.

[Rodney25]

Is this gonna be the only articles for the next month?

[Juusterey]

Well if you pretend all the other articles dont exist
Then sure

[ThanatosDMC]

"Git gud scrub."

Also, Days Gone doesn't have a noob difficulty. Supposedly it's a hard game.

[ninsigma]

Does that mean all mature games need to be watered down so that kids can play them too??

[Cernunnos]

That's the stupidest claim I have ever heard. A video game are for whoever the developer intended it to be for.

[Abriael]

No one prevents anyone to purchase and play Sekiro.

Being for everyone does not mean that everyone is entitled to be successful at something.

[Fritzwochel]

Embrace diversity. Not everything is for everybody.

[BioDead]

Then you should dedicate to Sekiro and learn all the movements and gameplay and not whine and take EASY way out :)

[Jreca]

Yeah, everyone can get it and play it. It already is like this. This is what "for everyone" means.

[BioDead]

Does anyone remember the contest they kept in N4G last december? I never got my prize so just wanted to make users to bomb the N4G and demand they give my prize already!!!!!

[l33t_haxx0r]

i was stuck on a boss 4 days in a row, did I complain?? Yes! Did I bitch about it online and ask for an easy mode??? No! Get over it

[antikbaka]

It's fine to ask for easier options. It's unacceptable to demand

[froy402]

Upcoming sekiro dlc for 5.99 the game plays it self all you have to do is hold the controller and pretend your winning, there you go new generation gamers 😅

[uth11]

pfft, i can do that for free on Twitch :)

[Kosic]

This discussion has gone on way too long now. Almost every 2nd article is about making the game easier. I was all for it. But these copy and paste pages are boring now.

[batsugun888]

So many of these articles at the moment because they attract a lot of engagement from us loyal From fans. It's just clickbait, and those writing it had no intention of playing Sekiro anyway, but I'll bite regardless.

Last night I reached D.O.H.

For the first half hour I was getting rinsed on first phase whilst I learned his attacks. After another half hour I was consistently reaching second phase. Another hour and aside from a lucky run where I reached third phase, I was dying a lot on second. In the third hour I perfected avoiding the additional two attacks in second phase and started reaching the third phase every time. Almost at four hours I had him at a slither but mistimed a dodge jump and died. Very frustrating but I persisted. Just over four hours I beat him and it felt highly gratifying. I learned every one of his moves, and put all that together in a great run where I still had four gourds left!

You do not have the right to sight see all a game has to offer if you are not willing to put the time in and learn its progression system. Sekiro is tough, but generally fair. Get over it.

[SarcasticDuck]

ffs stop with this BS. I plan in getting this game and it will be my first Souls game. I know I will get my butt kicked, I expect it to happen and I hope I improve my skills to endure the game til the end. In other words, stop whinning and get gud!

[Father__Merrin]

completed it with an invisibility trainer :)

[Dragonscale]

Wow it must be so frustrating for those poor journos who want to review this game and can't even beat the 1st boss. Git Gud Lol.

[Darkstone36]

Its funny how nothing was ever said about the souls games from demon souls to dark souls,these are suppose to be difficult. With all the whining,stream watching,youtube gamers around,how much help do they really need?

[FyBy]

Thats a lie! Games are for different types of people. What about racing game and fantasy fans? Should every racing game have fantasy elements, because otherwise fantasy fans will not enjoy the game?
Some games are casual, some games are simulators some games are like movies with cinema like experience. Its up to developers who is their game for. If games is too hard, probably its for people who wants very hard game. So dont cry if you cant beat it :-).

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Total garbage...Not everything needs to be for everyone..this mentality needs to die. This is why everyone is raised as wimps now..YAY everyone is a winner. Stupid.

[lucian229]

Barbie Adventure should have a blood and gore more to be accessible to me

[PressPlayBros]

The grammar in the title of this article bothers me.

[BlaqMagiq1]

This is an idiotic statement. From Software don't have to do anything but make the game they set out to make. The only person holding yourself back from playing the game is yourself. Either man up and play the game or move on to something else. It's not getting an easy mode and it never will.

[Alek83]

Opinions are for everyone as well.

[milliniumstylz]

Games are for all. It’s all about preference... I could never get into souls like games not because of difficulty but personal preference I never played a Pokémon game because personal preference. The only that stopped me from playing and enjoying those games is Me. Not everything has to have a participation trophy. (I finished cuphead) lol

[Bleucrunch]

It's unfortunate that it has come to this, "Video Games are for everyone and so should Sekiro", so many things wrong with that statement.,.,.here it goes:

> I do not recall anyone saying that this game was for a specific kind of person
> Everyone CAN,(I repeat CAN) purchase this game for their respective consoles and play the game
> Easy/Hard is a rather subjective term and its used a little too loosely I believe, what is easy for some is difficult for others. It is not their fault that they are better at a particular craft than you. (Step YOUR GAME UP)

>The game is designed to be a challenge to MOST gamers, this is a big boy and big girl kind of game, stay out of the fire if you are afraid to get burnt.

>For those that are brave enough, see you in Sengoku.......Now GO AND TRAIN!!!!!

[Ninjamonkey82]

Indeed they are for everyone ''but'' every now and again comes along a game that really tests how good the player is and that should not be frowned upon if any thing the player should either practice and get better are know when they are beat.

[uth11]

They know if they write some variation "Sekiro/Souls needs an easy mode", they will get angry clicks and shares. i guess we need to learn to stop feeding this

[yomfweeee]

I love how these articles have completely been blown up just due to the arguing back and forth. I'm not sure I've ever seen so many articles about the same subject.

I mean when is enough? We get it, someone want it and someone are against it.

Doesn't N4G have rules against repeat topics like this?

[andron]

Yeah, where's my Super Meat Boy easy mode ehh....

[Homushi]

Invalid statement. this headline is presumptuous in assuming that games are for "everyone". Games are not for all. Some games are made for kids, some for adults, some for anyone to pick up and play. Example: A game called Cooking Mama. Not everyone is gonna want to play that game, because it may not be their preference or thing. It's like different genre of music, not everyone has the same preference, but there's all kinds of songs out there.

same thing with video games. There's all kinds of games, but not for everyone.

Do not mask the need for accessibility options under the guise of "games are for everyone" and thus affecting core gameplay mechanics and vision for how game is meant to be played.

[Surt]

The writer of this article is autistic. Shame.

[Imortus_san]

All the bosses no Damage:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Juancho51]

I died by falling off a cliff while fighting a boss and lost over 700 coins. I was mad, but I love this game so much, I love the challenge. If it's too hard for you, just know it's not meant for you. Just like Tetris isn't meant for this new generation of gamers. (They Hate It)

[Thundercat77]

This is becoming out of proportions just like crossplay.

[Christopher]

I hate sports and racing games. Please make them for me.

See how stupid that sounds?

[CrustifiedDibbs]

Very few things in this world are for everyone. Sekiro is a difficult game. sorry. quit crying, and go play something else.

[LucidIllusion]

I can't win so make it easier.