Assassin's Creed Odyssey To Change Controversial DLC

After apologizing for forcing your character into a heterosexual relationship, Ubisoft is planning to issue a patch that will correct the error.

A controversial bit of Assassin's Creed Odyssey downloadable content will be changed in a future patch following a backlash from fans. Spoilers follow for the Shadow Heritage episode of Odyssey's DLC.

At the end of the Shadow Heritage episode, your character has a child from a heterosexual relationship. Those who had spent hours playing their Kassandra or Alexios as LGBTQ--or simply not interested in relationships at all--felt forced into a plot development

[Chaosdreams]

This is good to hear. *Thumbs up

Nobody loses, everyone wins.

[Hungryalpaca]

Except now canonically it doesn’t make sense. This was supposed to be part of a bloodline.

If the character is gay...the bloodline ends...unless they still have children. So they’d need to tie that up now.

[lilzay33311]

why would it be a bloodline thing, they killed bloodlines in origins with the invention of the portable animus. there's literally no need for a child or even a relationship when the connection is to the person not their relative.

[NewMonday]

so we can't say you can't have natural children with the same sex?

[babadivad]

This may come as a shocker to you but, gay people have children all the time. . .

[mikeslemonade]

I’m for gays but here’s another example of entitled people complaining about small things. Ubisoft should stand up against this and change nothing.

[fathertime4464]

@babadivad
Yeah gays have kids all the time through adoption or artificial encemination. One of two of these things didn't exist back then. Now add in the fact that you need the historical bloodlines you kind of just killed off the past games with this one.

And an FYI to all you politically correct morons, ITS A GAME SET IN ANCIENT GREECE , THERE WASN'T SAME SEX COUPLES. YES THERE WAS ALWAYS HOMOSEXUALS, BUT THEY MARRIED AND PROCREATED WITH THE OPPOSITE SEX!

[JokerBoy422]

Explain how this supports the science of the Animus now. They pandered to the LGBTXYZ cuz those cancers of society never shut the hell up about anything.

[Chaosdreams]

It’s not pandering. If the devs didn’t see a proper solution then they’d leave it be, but since they’ve chosen to update the content that leaves an impression they found a solution, narratively speaking.

Considering the content with the update hasn’t been addressed - all I see are cancers flipping out.

[NewMonday]

@Chaosdreams
the impression it leaves is that they compromised their artistic integrity under mob pressure.

[Batnut00]

Well they already covered this in Origins where you don't need bloodlines anymore to go back in time for Assassins.

[Chaosdreams]

@NewMonday

In that context I understand the frustration/worry.

[xRacer74x]

Now I expect this from both sides from now on. I do not want any game to force non hetro relationships. If one side can be offended then its certainly okay for the other side to offended.

[Batnut00]

Well if the game prides itself in offering player choice to the point of advertising as such and than suddenly forces your character who you've decided to play as hetero to suddenly be forced into a same-sex relationship than absolutely

[rowuxa]

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[xRacer74x]

I usually do not care. But Im growing tired of the LBGC complaining at every turn. The last 2 or 3 years the USA is has become inundated with this crap. Love who you want to love, I just have no desire to hear about it and I will do the same.

[fathertime4464]

Well by pandering to the pansies they've kinda killed the entire game series. It's what's called a paradox. Now that they've made it so you don't have to procreate they've completely screwed the entirety of all previous assassin's games.
I'm aware that they did away with the whole bloodlines thing in origins, but you needed them in previous games and now you have a virtual butterfly effect in that the non birth of one person eliminates the birth of many people and can also change the course of human history completely. Thank you lgbqt community for ruining everything you touch and thank you Ubisoft for being so politically correct (idiot's)

[Sashamaz]

Yeah, I feel like most games now force you to do things one way, I guess it's all about who shouts the loudest.

[WitcheRivia]

Ugh, nothing worse than a bunch of heterophobes.

[tar_tar07]

Crazy times we live in man.

[Profchaos]

So they abandoned the whole idea of needing a bloodline to utilise the animus?

[lilzay33311]

yes they did away with that in origins.

[Profchaos]

I always thought the modern day segments were pointless after AC3 i still have no idea why they bothered with black flag it felt forced

[Sophisticated_Chap]

@ Profchaos

Ubisoft plans on re-telling the story, allowing for Artificial Insemination, to fill in the plot holes.

[PlayableGamez-]

This is a non-issue.

[Cobra951]

It was, until they made it an issue.

[beulahland]

Well, if they hadn't transformed Assassin's Creed in a full RPG game, this would not be an issue. But...

[Dirtnapstor]

This is not a good thing. This is wrong on so many levels. It’s a VIDEO GAME not real life. It’s ridiculous to think there is a sliver of “disenfranchised” gamers out there that are calling the shots for Ubi.
By Ubi pandering to the sjw’s and whatnot, they’ve set themselves up for this. And mark my words, it won’t stop.
I haven’t finished this masterpiece that is Odyessy yet (truly loving it), but this is about continuing bloodlines yes? Need both genders for that.
This is Ubi’s story to tell, not the gaming community’s.

[_FantasmA_]

How is it pandering to sjw?

[Darrius Cole]

Because heterosexual relationship are necessary for the continuation of humanity while all other relationships are not necessary, and depicting all these relationships as though they are equal communicates a lie merely for the sake of making some people feel better. That is pandering to sjw...telling them what they want to hear, even though it is not true, just to make them feel better so they shut up. But just as Dirtnapstor said, it will not be enough.

[Rachel_Alucard]

While I don't support anything the left has done for gaming the past 7 years, this whole thing has been pointed at the fact they advertise to you that you can make decisions that affect the outcome. When you sit there and decline all of the advances of the son, he still ends up having children with you. The people calling this equal to rape are massive drama queens and love to be victimized and I attribute the problem more to crummy writing, they shouldn't of done the baby thing in the first place with a game that lets you be straight homo. All they have to do is let you choose at some point if Darius has a son or daughter and it let's them circumvent any expenses with additional development.

[knickstr]

Just caved harder than Donald Trump on the border wall.

[_FantasmA_]

The man's weak and brittle. I mean, those poor bone spurs kept him out of service.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

I'm sure the same thing keeps you out of the service.....

[Anorexorcist]

Here's an actual news update for you: President Trump didn't cave at all; He's simply giving the Democrats until February 15th to finally come up with a compromise. He has only reopened the government in order to serve as a relief for all the government workers that have been on furlough. Now if the Democrats still want to act like globalist swamp rats and still did not come to a compromise to fund the Border Wall by 02/15/19 then Trump is fully justified to declare a national emergency. He will have then exhausted all of his options and the Democrats will now fully be responsible for any additional partial government shutdown.

Oh Hi there, _FantasmA_ I'm still waiting for you to provide me with a legitimate example of how Trump makes up facts in order to brag about himself. if you just go ahead and duck off again like you did last time, people will start thinking that you're all Reeee and no Reality.

[knickstr]

So let me get this straight. His master plan was to shut down the government for a little over 4 weeks with no guarantee of back pay for those who worked without pay only to open up the government again for 3 weeks and then it gets shut down again indefinitely until he caves again. Brilliant.

The problem is that he is trying to negotiate without holding the power now. He lost that during the mid terms due to his poor behavior. Now the Democrats have enough members to stall anything he wants to do. So now he'll have to do what he criticized Obama for and use executive actions. Only problem is that declaring the border a national security can be blocked which is why they havent done it yet. Unfortunately for him the Democrats hold the power now because they hold enough votes to block him and they hold power through the media. If he was really smart he would have done this when the Republicans still controlled the house and the Senate.

[Anorexorcist]

@knickstr, If you don't know that Republicans do indeed control the Senate and the Democrats do not have absolute Congressional power, as you seem to believe, then what else are you ignorant of?

I assume you also believe all of the Democratic histrionics about impeaching Trump, which is by the way would have to be done with a complete lack of due cause and evidence, but of course we all know that Democratics and leftists feel that their feelings and their prejudices are evidence enough. But as we can all see with the overwhelming sentiments here in this forum, Leftist's feelings are overwhelmingly disavowed and immaterial to the real world.

The declaration of a national emergency is something that can only be reversed subsequent to the declaration, but only if a 3/5th majority vote is casted in BOTH the House of Representatives and The Senate. So you are incorrect in saying that Trump will be blocked; Trump is not backed into a corner and he is fully within his Presidential authority to declare a national emergency and it will not be vetoed.

[knickstr]

Sorry, didnt realize that the Senate had the full power to pass a bill now. I always thought you needed the Senate and the house to pass the budget. Of course I know that Republicans barely held onto the Senate, but they lost the house and they lost majority vote which is why they couldn't get this budget passed. Not enough votes.

I'm also not a leftist. I lean right, but refused to vote for an immoral man. He has constantly lied, said ridiculous things, cheated on his wife with pornstars, and acted like a pre-teen his entire life.I refuse to support either party now. Wish there was another party or candidate that I could support with a clear conscience.

The Democrats won't push to impeach him. He is their golden ticket to get back in office. Especially since they can stall him now. They'll try and provoke him and further make him become unhinged. The only problem is that the Democrats are incompetent and will probably put someone just as bad Hillary which will make the next election another battle of select the least worst person.

Declaring a national emergency for this will be disputed as unconstitutional and will be fought with lawsuits and judges to declare if it is or isnt within his constitutional rights to do so. If they could have done that already why wouldn't they have done that?

[Anorexorcist]

You know why Trump hasn't declared a national emergency yet? Because he has tried to avoid such an extreme measure and is still trying to see if the Democrats will cooperate. Only someone with TDS and/or in complete denial would try to portray that as a fault.

I can already gleam from your ad hominem, Fake News manufactured talking points of Trump being immoral and cheating with pornstars and acting like a pre-teen (oh BTW, you left out him having small hands and being an orange chimp. A good Fake News NPC puppet would have remembered those too ;) that Trump is damned if he does and he is damned if he doesn't in your opinion. If Trump were to jump the gun and just declare a national emergency, then you would fault him for that and say that he is more of a dictator and doesn't care to cooperate with Democrats...and yet here we are now, yet to see a national emergency being declared, and you are essentially criticizing him for NOT jumping the gun and declaring a national emergency already.

You may be fooling yourself, but you are not fooling me.

[knickstr]

Everything I've said about Donald Trump has been true. He does lie constantly and gets caught in them all the time. He did cheat on his wife with a pornstar and paid her a lot of money to keep it quiet. And acts like a pre-teen and says ridiculous things all the time in his interviews, rallies, and twitter. The sad thing is that you and I would probably agree on a lot of policy issues, but because I dare criticize Trump you call me a leftist and ignorant while refusing to acknowledge any of this man's flaws.

The Democrats havent cooperated in over a month on this issue what makes him think they would in February? Maybe he doesnt want to do it because this is the exact type thing Obama did and he might come out looking like a hypocrite. Which if that's the case then he is backed into a corner, huh? I honestly dont care if he does or doesnt declare an emergency. I'm just sitting here hoping that America will learn its lesson in the future and not elect a man like this in the future and we can at least get some good candidates. Until then I'll just wait and watch the daily circus and hope both parties dont screw things up too badly.

[Anorexorcist]

Well even if Trump is pushed to the brink and has to use his Executive powers, that would still only account for one instance in a tally that is still significantly below Barack Obama's tally. After all, Obama signed more executive orders in his first 12 days in office than Donald Trump. Aside from that, you seem to make it appear taboo if a President declares an executive order at all, and that seems to stem from some kind of irrational and illegitimate disdain of President Trump.

You seem very confident in your accusations of Trump lying "constantly" so then it wouldn't be much of a task for you to refer me to some legitimate source to support your accusations; So much like that blowhard coward known as _FantasmA_, I am still waiting to see you add some substance to your claims. (and of course, when I ask for a reference to what you claim, I do not mean anything that is a part of the Orwellian Fake News complex that is now supporting the demonization of Teenagers from Covinington Catholic High School just because they are White, because they wore MAGA hats and dared to not let a professional agitator incite them) https://youtu.be/ATk7nFy_te...

[knickstr]

Any source I post you're just going to denounce it as liberal. But to start with let's go with the one where he assured us that mexico was going to pay for the wall. That's a ridiculous thing to say and was a lie. If it was true we wouldnt be in this mess to begin with.

The catholic boys incident was a completely fabricated issue by the media who didnt take the time to actually do their job and investigate. Just ran with a video clip that was popularized by a twitter user from Brazil I think that was posing as a teacher in california. Those kids didnt do anything wrong.

[Anorexorcist]

The only time I would denounce any of your sources as liberal is if it was indeed a leftist source. Do you not know of any non hyper-leftist news sources? Like any of these:

https://youtu.be/uG5GqMJ4-6...
https://youtu.be/yrPsWv1y9D...
https://youtu.be/Yern92o-Ej...
https://youtu.be/LoU6zmd-7H...
https://youtu.be/2DwpbgO7sR...

[knickstr]

Why are you so focused on the catholic kids? And you haven't answered the last one. Did Trump lie when he said that Mexico would pay for the wall?

[Anorexorcist]

I put you to task first to substantiate your character assassination claims against President Trump and you completely sidestepped that and since you're now running out of steam, you're focusing on the Mexican border wall funding...

You are clearly a long bridge to nowhere and you could have saved us both a lot of time by just being honest and just expressing your true underlying principle: "orange man bad orange man bad".

The longer people like you rally, the more you step on your own toes; Thank you for only further solidifying my position.

[knickstr]

We started off talking about the border wall funding due to my first comment and then you got side tracked with the whole character assassination thing. I've given a few examples and you refuse to answer it or acknowledge it. I've asked if him saying mexico will pay for the wall so I can establish if you'll be honest and acknowledge something he said was a lie, which you wont. That tells me that any further lies of Trump that I provide will just be ignored and you'll find another path to go down to avoid answering if it was a lie.

[Marioraider18]

Trump supporters are goddamn idiots.

"I'm still waiting for you to provide me with a legitimate example of how Trump makes up facts in order to brag about himself."

https://www.washingtonpost....

Here you go. Look at all the lies coming out of Trump's mouth.

Clearly the guy is talking about the border wall and Anorexorcist is too dumb to stay on topic or admit that Trump is a pathological liar because all he sees from Trump is "winning, winning, winning" but doesnt notice all the indictments, house taking over, the shitty approval ratings, his failure to repeal Obamacare. Trump supporters are full of shit. Its no wonder why many of them don't have any college degrees and come from the dumb red states.

[milohighclub]

Boooring.

[Anorexorcist]

"your character has a child from a heterosexual relationship..."

Umm...is there any other kind of relationship which can result in procreation???

No there is Not.

Oh but excuse me! I don't mean to sound racist or sexist or homophobic or intolerant or whatever-have-you by relaying scientific biological fact. I know that Lunatic Leftist Feelings supercede reality and rationality and facts. 🙄😏

[Atom666]

Reality in a video game wherein characters use a machine to go back in time to battle against a group that wants to use alien technology to rule the world.

How dare they "supercede reality and rationality and facts"!!!!!!

*clutches pearls and bible

[Weeblordbad]

I was going to say the same thing, are we really going to sit here and pretend that anything about Assassin's Creed is based in reality? High tech alien forge? Let's build a spear!

[CaptainObvious878]

The game world still follows a set of rules, though. And Ubi has just magically changed the canon after many games now to pander to a certain crowd?

It's completely different from having a "time machine" from the very start.

[Kabaneri]

I'm sorry but what exactly is controversial about a woman having a child? Even if she was lesbian, there was no medically assisted insemination in ancient Greece. How about that mission that forces Alexios to be gay? Pure hypocrisy.

[beulahland]

Is there a mission that forces him to have an homossexual relationship or, since AC is a RPG game now, can the player simply say "no" to this option?

Sincere question here, I haven't played it yet.

[dreamoner]

There are no forcing but you can't simply say that "you are not gay/you are interested in women" to homosexual advances, instead the character says "I would have sex with you but I can't right now" when you decline. So the character is bi by default and no choice can make him un-bi :P

Ubi forced vast majority of its hetero players play a bi character and now they are catering to/changing their canon for non-hetero people who cried a river.

[ger2396]

I fail to understand the need to pander to such a minuscule demographic. How many of the LGBT community are gamers compared to heterosexuals? Ridiculous

[Rachel_Alucard]

Because they are the loudest mouths on twitter where all the devs and marketing are done.

[InTheZoneAC]

sjwism needs to die already

[Xaevi]

Keep pandering, they'll keep whining.

[DirtyBollix]

Jesus christ. Somebody just wipe this planet out.

[Opinionatedlovesme]

This is what happens when humanity lives in an era with no real struggles. Bitching over miniscule things like this.

[CaptainObvious878]

Don't worry, the immigrants pouring into western nations from certain countries will change that soon. And they are not going to be as tolerant of the LGTB community as the toxic male typing this sentence.

[Smokehouse]

Controversial = heterosexual lol

[AnubisG]

Please someone explain it to me; what is so controversial in having a child and starting a family?

[riibhu]

I remember mass effect 3 having two seperate modes, one being the action mode where there were no player choice and the other being the RPG mode where there were player choice.
Maybe ubisoft should implement this feature in thier future titles. I for one don't like this forced RPG nonsense in assassins creed, I want assassins creed to have a consistent story...a canon story, not this whole "make your own story" crap. I tried but no matter how I looked at it, a branching storyline just doesn't work in a decade old franchise when introduced in the 10th part.

[StevieMacUK]

Good.

Player choice is a major part of Odyssey and they sold it on the back of freedoms around relationships and sexuality.

To force a player to follow a hetero path, at odds with their character choice, is insulting and lazy.

[victorMaje]

Stupidsm strikes again.
Bottom line Ubisoft doesn’t know how to tell a story anymore or worse is afraid to stick to one.

You can’t please everyone. Someone is bound to be offended.

I don’t care about the gender or sexual orientation of a character. What I do care about is to stick to your story, stick to a direction.
It used to be that AC games were a created protagonist’s story.
Now it has to be everyone’s story, therefore noone’s.

The game is fun, but lore used to be an important element in AC & with stuff like that it’s losing its soul, imo.

[Gardenia]

What about our heterosexual rights? Is this the new standard that the entertainment industry always giving in when those people complain to get their opinion through? This is part of the reason why the right is getting more popular, and gays are getting punched in the face

[TheOnlyMastrx]

So game developers are forced to change the story they created due to community backlash? Would film makers reshoot an entire film and release it over again for the same reasons? Stand up for yourselves developers. If people don't like your stories, thats on them.

[SixFragz]

These disgusting SJW's and progressive leftists are just a festering infestation.

It's almost turning into a plague now. Ubisoft is simply doing more damage by giving in to these idiots.

God forbid people ever find out that kids are produced from male and female interaction.

The world would surely end.

[TheGamez100]

Ugh how our society has come to...

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Ubisoft is weak, like so many of these multi-national corporations.

[Aaroncls7]

f***ing retarded

[DethWish]

What the hell? Accept that the game has a story! If you want complete control, please play a storyless game. I don't ever hear someone complain about heterosexual sex in movies (or gay either for that matter)

[StevieMacUK]

But that's the point.

So far in the game, I'm around level 28, my characters sexuality is not implied. I make decisions on who to have sex with to advance the plot/expand the narrative.

Player choice is part of the story.

[DethWish]

And apparently heterosexual sex is part of the story too, ain't it?

[m2stech]

So basically Kassandra and Alexios who are part of a scripted single player story with clear start and ending should have no direct heir of their own bloodline against the game's story and lore because LGBTWTFBBQ players cry and feel entitled?

[bigmalky]

Don't do it. Stop giving in to non gamers.

[AK91]

Controversy?

[2ndhandcorn]

Wow is this really a thing ? um go humanity you bastards.

[Anthotis]

Ubisoft and the SJW subhumans are disgusting.

[SOUTHNECK]

If it were a Christian issue, Ubisoft would have Google delete them from the internet.

It’s just a game — Lighten the F up.

[bluefox755]

Of course they cave to the vocal minority outrage mob. Ubisoft always caves to these people, which is a mistake. You give them an inch, and they will repeatedly demand a mile. Stop pandering to these lunatics.

[SOUTHNECK]

In the game, you drive a sword into a person’s face and rip it out through the back of their skull... What are we debating again?

[NecrumOddBoy]

It's wrong to have a heterosexual relationship to make a baby?🤷🏼‍♀️

[SOUTHNECK]

Seriously, the pandering makes my game hurt. 😕

[theone2135]

Ridiculous!!

[sampsonon]

people are still playing this series? wow!

[The7Reaper]

Ubipandering.

[jznrpg]

Make your game the way you want it don’t give in .Though it was a stupid choice to begin with or lack of choice

[Goldenarmz]

This is why making it appeal to every orientation doesnt really make sense if your end goal is to have a Child be bore. Tell the story the way you want to tell and stop making it appeal to EVERYONE.

[Inzo]

And so the "progressives" keep digging that hole deeper and deeper.

[GrizToof]

apologizing for nothing was the biggest mistake you made with this.

[Tankbusta40]

Jesus the steps people take for the LGBT community(mostly their white Knight protectors) is borderline insane.

[EjWarrior]

Sad that now straight people are considered controversial the only way to have children is with a woman and the men in the picture.

[Jon_Targaryen]

Welcome to the 21st century where everyone gets offended by anything. My character is bi and I dont care. Depends on my mood.

[Bane35]

We lived in some sad times this world is coming to an end