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Avellone Recommends Microsoft to Fire Obsidian Execs; Would Be Open to Working with the Studio Then

Former Obsidian founder and owner Chris Avellone recommends Microsoft's Phil Spencer to fire the current upper management while keeping the rest of the developers, which he believes to be good ones.

He also said he would be open to working with Obsidian again if those leadership changes happened under Microsoft's oversight.

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codelyoko2004d ago

Not sure this would ve a great idea

darthv722004d ago

Sounds like the former head is still bitter about being ousted. I dont know the whole story but thats just my assumption.

Skull5212004d ago

The real question is who the **** is Chris Avellone?

rainslacker2004d ago

He's a former creative director for Obsidian. He came into the company from interplay, after other interplay employees left to create obsidian. I don't know the details of his leaving. Research suggest it was his choice, but we know that amicable departures aren't always amicable.

That said, this is a pretty strong thing for him to say, since Obsidian is considered to make good games. He left a few years ago, and the only reason they had financial troubles was because they were banking on a bonus from Bethesda which they didn't get because the metascore was one point too low. Going forward, its unlikely the studio itself will manage its own finances.

NewMonday2003d ago

Obsidian should get some of the BioWare founders (when they were are actually great) Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk

UltraNova2003d ago

This guy has some balls. Is he really that desperate?

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XiNatsuDragnel2004d ago

Not great idea Microsoft, that would contradict your msg if you follow through with this.

Disagree, please explain how this would not be the case.

Switch4One2004d ago

What are you talking about? Nobody has disagreed with you.

XiNatsuDragnel2004d ago

I thought there was differing opinions

Zeref2004d ago

I doubt they're gonna actually do it.

XiNatsuDragnel2004d ago

Big bro, it's Microsoft you don't what there going to do .

ccgr2004d ago

I wonder if they'll listen....

Srhalo2004d ago

I agree, fire the leadership that's a great way to boost moral and punish people for selling out.

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Chris_Wray2004d ago

Nah, not a good idea at all. Why ruin a studio that is making good games? Granted, as he says - he recommends keeping the actual game makers and getting rid of the management.

Alexious2004d ago

Yes, that's the conundrum. Whether one believes Avellone saying that the management is what's bad at Obsidian or not.

Sirk7x2003d ago (Edited 2003d ago )

Regardless, Microsoft owns them now, so any management will likely have to report to Microsoft gaming management. Everyone at Obsidian has new bosses lol.

DragonbornZ2004d ago

It was going around that the leadership at Oblivion were mismanaging the studio, hence their financial situation prior to MS acquiring them.

rainslacker2004d ago

I think they mismanaged to the extent they relied too much on a bonus to continue forward. They over extended themselves, and when that bonus didn't come, despite making a successful product, they didn't have the means to continue in the traditional way.

Whether or not they mismanaged the studio in terms of game development I can't say, as they generally still make good games. I doubt they'll have much control over their finances with MS owning them.

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It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass

Under his leadership, many have lost their jobs and fewer games have made it out the door.

purple1015h ago

people should call for his resignation, he has literally flushed xbox down the toilet.
another 3 studios closed today, thats it now, get out

Tody_ZA4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Well purple101 you'd have to convince Observer and the other Xbox faithful that these studio closures and the fallout from the acquisitions is a bad thing and a sign of what's to come, and I don't think you're going to do that.

Nobody has managed that feat.

Redgrave3h ago

Obscure and Zeref have been summoned to the floor to give their account of these proceedings.

VenomUK3h ago

I 100% blame 'nice guy Phil' for the death of Xbox. The thing to realise is the Xbox Series S & X are performing WORST in console sales and game sales than the much criticised Xbox One - how can this be?

His two big mistakes were 1-not developing enough exclusives and 2 - always trying to beat PlayStation. If he made more exclusives over his decade reign and not tried to 'win' then classic Xbox would still be here in a profitable third place. Instead he tried a series of different projects to win and he ended up ultimately destroying Xbox by changing its relationship with its most loyal customers. What did he do?

* Phil spent a decade only release new iterations of Halo, Forza and Gears and not investing in creating new first party studios and IP. He mishandled Scalebound and shutdown Lionhead Studios.

* Phil tried Mixer, a streaming channel that could be used to promote Xbox dominance with free giveaways...

* Phil tried to create a streaming service that he regarded as too superior to consider PlayStation and Nintendo as competitors! But would instead compete with Netflix and Google...

* But his worst mistake was Xbox Game Pass - a multi billion dollar investment that could only work if completely dominated the worldwide gaming market - but it didn't. Instead it changed the culture of Xbox gamers so they resented spending on third party games as they were now trained to expect everything for free. Now all the games Microsoft had invested so much in were not only NOT making money from other platforms, as ever, but they were now NOT EVEN making money from Xbox customers.

If Phil Spencer had just concentrated on making new games and not non-stop gimmicks to beat PlayStation, I genuinely believe the Xbox would be an attractive platform with regular exclusives like Halo but with others too that would give it its distinct identity and maintain a profitable existence. Phil's been in charge for over a decade, the blame lays at his feet.

amazinglover2h ago

Last MS financial results for FY24 Q2 which is the company's sales data through Dec. 31, 2023. According to the earnings, gaming revenue is up 49% year-over-year.

That doesn't sound like he flushing it down the toilet and that also makes very unlikely he loses his job any time soon.

crazyCoconuts2h ago

Revenue up due to acquisition... Spending 10s of billions for new companies of course revenue is up. They don't tell us profits but they wouldn't be shutting down these divisions if they were in the black. Pretty sure they're shifting so radically because their current state has been an abject failure

Scissorman1h ago

This is 100% due to Activision Blizzard. If that deal had not gone through, Xbox revenue would be flat, which means a game like Starfield failed to move the needle.

rlow132m ago

@crazyCoconuts
While I agree that Phil and team have gone back on their word. Especially the last six years of promises.

But I disagree on your logic about the revenue.
They bought the companies to boost their gaming division revenue. In that regard they were very successful. They are owned by MS so your point is moot.

Tacoboto5h ago

Phil needs to go. His time is over. When you oversee layoff after layoff after studio closure after studio closure, it's impossible to keep going forward and have people - employees and fans alike - trust you in any way.

Especially after HiFi Rush hit their metrics. I guess we know what to expect for Ninja Theory next once Hellblade is out, and Machine Games once Indiana's out & Todd Howard focuses back on ES6.

mastershredder5h ago

It's not just Phil (Phil is just the dumb kid taking the money) and Kotaku is NOT the voice to listen to as shi7 sites like Kotaku helped contribute to modern gaming toxicity and disinformation. Kotaku staff = Much like Phil, and yes need to go.

Moegooner5h ago

MS has been posting record profits, you think they give a crap about games and gamers? Think again.

DOMination-5h ago

What a prat.

People gave him and Matt Booty the benefit of the doubt for a few years due to the mess they inherited but a decade on and all they've done is ruin gaming for everyone.

The only success they've had is MS Flight Simulator which was developed by a third party anyway - and Forza Horizon which by pure coincidence went downhill in quality the second Playground were acquired (imo) and that's all I can think of. Everything else they've touched has been ruined.

It's genuinely staggering how either of these two guys are still there.

Hofstaderman4h ago

Phil didnt even inherit a mess, he was equally responsible for it because he sat on the executive so the kinect and XBONE roadmap vision was also on him. Mattrick was the convenient public scapegoat back then but now theres no one to place the blame on.

Tacoboto4h ago

If they're to keep anyone, I'd hope it would be Sarah Bond. She's at least consistent, constantly doing quick tweets with green emojis where she can, repping the brand, saying the next hardware will be the biggest leap ever (whatever that means).

Phil Spencer openly minimizes Xbox by going out of his way to congratulate competitors and talking about how great playing non-Xbox devices are; if only Xbox had someone that could even pretend to like Xbox for being Xbox.

LoveSpuds4h ago

This is the point I always found frustrating, the whitewashing of Spencers reputation when he got promoted. He was involved in the slide into mediocrity of the 360 generation!

Aloymetal3h ago

The worse is yet to come and their fanbase don't know it yet, someone at MS posted and deleted a tweet saying all their main ''exclusives'' Halo, Forza, Gears etc will be heading to PS soon so grab a front seat ticket and some popcorn and enjoy the show;) The crying will be hilarious.

Notellin3h ago

Yeah he is absolutely responsible for the abysmal state of Xbox. I can't tell Mattrick and Spencer apart at this point. Both have been horrible executives for the Xbox brand.

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Nintendo partner Paladin Studios closes after nearly two decades

In a poignant announcement, Dutch indie developer Paladin Studios bid farewell after an impressive run spanning “almost 19 years.”

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Venoxn4g1d 15h ago

I really enjoyed Good Job game...too bad that they are closing

mastershredder1d ago

Considering the level of games they made, I'm surprised that more than 2 people worked there. 45 people (+ outsourcing) making mediocre mobile games, like cut the rope. I mean dude....Nintendo stooped to new lows in quality development and entertainment standards.

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Crow Country Developer Interview

Discover Crow Country, the upcoming survival horror game from indie studio SFB Games. Get ready for an original PlayStation-inspired gaming experience as we speak to the developers and get an inside look at the studio and game.

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