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Should Guerrilla Games Reboot The Killzone Series?

The last Killzone game was released back in 2013 as a launch title for the PS4. Since then developer Guerrilla Games has gone on to develop their most acclaimed title in the form of Horizon Zero Dawn. However, now that Guerrilla Games has expanded their studio in an effort to cultivate their portfolio of games with earlier launch windows, it now seems like a good time for the studio the re-visit their famed shooter series.

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Araragifeels 2097d ago

No reboot just make Killzone Shadowfall as a spin off and continue the story from Killzone 3.

Shadowolf2097d ago

@Araragifeels

For many fans of the series, that woud certianly work in favor of their previous experiences, however there could also be too much of a disconnect for newcomers to the series. Remember, Killzone Shadowfall launched with the PS4 back in 2013. If Shadowfall is the spinoff and you're continuing the story from Killzone 3, which launched in 2011, by time the next game launches we could be looking at a full decade or longer before KZ4. If this was the approach taken then I would hope Guerrilla Games launches an impressive Shadow of the Colossus-like remaster of Killzone 3 alongside what would then technically be KIllzone 4. I could certainly go for this. Yet, to be on the safe side a proper reboot would in my opinion do wonders for the series.

Araragifeels 2097d ago

If they do a reboot then they must bring something new to the table that was never done with a fps since COD and Battlefield already tired out the fps formula to death. I want to see a huge change like from Wolfenstein 2009 to Wolfenstein 2014.

b163o12097d ago

Agreed, I'd like to see KZ4 with a KZ3 remaster included in a early pre order type deal. KZ4 should be a PS5 game so it's not rushed, cause I honestly felt like SF was, it was basically put out there as PS4's first exclusive...

darthv722097d ago

No reboot needed. The games are still quite relevant as they are. I think what you are referring to is a way to bring new comers to the series by way of compilation. They have the KZ trilogy and that could be re-released for the PS5 before the release of KZ4. That way people can jump in and get the first 3 out of the way and choose to play shadowfall if they want but not required like how odst is an option and not required to play and understand the master chief story.

Like how uncharted trilogy is on ps4 and then there is uncharted 4. Like how halo MC collection on xb1 and how there is halo 5. You dont have to reboot everything in order to bring people up to speed. Just offer them the previous games in a nice compilation before hand. Sony can just as easily allow the kz trilogy on the ps4 if there is going to be a kz4 otherwise they can hold off and release it on the ps5 if kz4 is coming to the ps5.

bouzebbal2096d ago

just want KZ4 and go away from the futuristic crap..
KZ2 is one of my best games ever. i wish they pull something of that quality again.
KZ3 was also amazing (especially with move/sharpshooter and 3D).
Graphical marvel.

xXxSeTTriPxXx2096d ago

I say reboot it.GG has upped their story telling, character development and game design game up by a huge margin with horizon.

zarbor2096d ago

This series needs a complete reboot. Personally, I think this series need an overhaul in story, enemies, characters, etc. so at this point they may want to move on to a new game. Give the series to another developer see if they can do something fresh with it.

Skull5212096d ago

I can see the future

Killzone 5, the “Halo Killer”

Turns out do be nowhere near as good as Halo, yet again

Killzone disappears for a decade

So no, let them experiment until they can finally make a quality game.

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showtimefolks2096d ago

A soft reboot to start fresh and don't chase COD crowd be unique be like killzone 2

LA_Zeo2096d ago

Shadowfall was good to a degree but beyond that after what this generation offered it would need to lead the pax not be part of.

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-Foxtrot2097d ago

Yeah. It's for the best.

They tried to continue the series after Killzone 3 with Shadowfall and it just didn't do anything for me. I felt when you get endings such as the one saw in Killzone 3 you close it off in a way where another one to provoke another war just feels forced, same happened with Gears of War 4 in my opinion.

They are better off waiting until the PS5 and rebooting it. They can still use the same lore, characters (if they want) and rich backstory but do it in a way where instead of building all this lore outside of the games or hidden behind in game logs/files they do it within the story. Craft a game where we see the fight start out near the start, like the first Helghast assault or something.

Like I've said what I'd like to see them do is rework the story so you see the Helghast attack Vekta or even Earth first, you play as an everyday man in a typical American "white picket fence" looking suburban town, maybe with a family or just a wife who has to survive the first Helghast assault on their peaceful community. He could be an ex soldier or police man who uses his now rusty skills to fight back but if they give it a Horizon Zero Dawn touch and make it open world like with RPG elements then you can upgrade his abilities so it looks like he's slowly learning and getting better surviving during the story. Obviously it can still be first person, don't want to change it too much

They need to move away from the generic bald/shaven head marine soldier in a squad fighting off aliens in a onslaught shooting level. Spice it up abit or it's just going to feel samey. Keep the core roots in tact but don't change it too much where it's not Killzone anymore. It's hard I know but Sony Santa Monica pulled it off with God of War with it's change. Do a God of War not a Tomb Raider.

Shadowolf2097d ago

@Foxtrot

I believe you are spot on! While I believe it was a mitake to end Killzone 3 the way they did, anything supporting a full on sequel as Killzone 4 could feel forced, if not given a proper measure of newness from a unique perspective, which has never seen before in the series. It should feel like Killzone in FP, however the same old linear experiences with as you stated, 'generic bald/shaven head marine soldier in a squad fighting off aliens in a onslaught shooting level' need to be reassessed. Im all for a kick-butt soldier as the lead protagonist, however the character needs an emotional and relatable compass. I believe Aloy was a shining example of that. She was both powerful and vulnerable at the same time. A Killzone game with all the bells and whistle of what makes Killzone what it is, within an RPG/Action universe could be magical.

-Foxtrot2097d ago

I agree, Aloy was bad ass but because of her circumstances being trained by a well known hunter in the tribe and being brought up that way since birth practically you understand how she can do the things she does. It's not "Oh she's badass because she was in the army and can do all these things", the story even shows her "intellectual" side being (SPOILERS) a clone of Sobeck who was regarded as a highly respectable scientist.

If they did something for Killzone like what I've suggested, or some form of it where they are an ex cop or did train a little before quitting early on for "love" then you could see his progression through the story and through the RPG elements, upgrading him. I mean I'd love to see a game where at the start your aim is terrible, the recoil hits you too hard but over time through the story you slowly improve to the point you can feel it when playing. Now do you do everything you can at the start of the game with a character who will most likely get his arse kicked, making the game even more difficult BUT resulting in awesome loot to make the beginning story missions a walk in the park OR do you just do the story keeping the side missions, along with the exploring, until later on in the game. Hmm. Choices.

Personally with Killzone I think they could give it a small Far Cry theme but in a way where it's still Killzone but they make it feel like what Ubisoft should have given us with Far Cry 4 or 5...something which should have actually felt like what you'd expect from a sequel not "Oh it feels like Far Cry 3.5...now 3.75". Only thing I'd like third person is when the character gets into vehicles like cars so it's not "Killzone: Far Cry"

Like I said...I hate when games change to a shadow of their former self but games can keep their core roots like God of War while being a breath of fresh air.

Shiken2097d ago (Edited 2097d ago )

I personally would rather see a return of Resistance when it comes to Sony FPS games (not GG, but you get my point). I loved Killzone but I do not know how a new one would fare. If they did bring back Killzone however, I would put the Mercenaries team on it and have it follow that route. They really knew how to handle the IP.

As for GG main team, keep them focused on Horizon Zero Dawn 2 or a similar new IP. I feel like this is where they should be putting most of their focus at.

Shadowolf2097d ago

@Shiken

That is completely understandable, however now that Guerrilla Games has seasoned in-house writers and a seemingly great handle on the RPG genre, with their high level of FPS expertise, I'm sure they could now developer an incredible Killzone experience.

-Foxtrot2097d ago

I'd like Resistance to come back aswell but again it needs to be a reboot as Resistance 3 did the same thing as Killzone 3...they wrapped up the trilogy, closing it peacefully. I've always said I'd like a reboot-remake of Fall of Man then they can do an alternative timeline with Fall of Man II.

Sony needs to make these FPS games old school and not like the generic crap you have today, it's why Doom and Wolfenstein have done so well as they give us that skill based old school feel.

Shiken2097d ago

@Foxtrot

I agree, they need to reboot it like you said. While I enjoyed 3 more than 2 (loved it in fact), I hate how they killed off Hale. Despite 3 being a dar superior game, I felt a disconnect from the protagonist and unless we can bring Hale back somehow, I feel that same disconnect will be there if they just try to do a sequel.

darthv722097d ago (Edited 2097d ago )

To me SF is like how ODST fits into Halo and isnt really required to play in order to progress the story because it isnt exactly part of the story (the MC story). It takes place in parallel but is it's own thing.

SF is very much its own thing but they ended 3 kind of weird and it still feels like there is room for a proper 4th even if the 4th would be made to really close all the loose ends (so to speak)

kneon2096d ago

How about telling the story from the side of the Helghast? If you dig in to the lore they aren't quite the bad guys as it's made to appear.

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ArchangelMike2097d ago (Edited 2097d ago )

GG should first do a Remaster Bundle of the first 3, and then work on rebooting the franchise for the PS5. That's the best way to go imho.

Shadowolf2097d ago

@ArchangelMike

In fact, if Sony/Guerrilla Games actually remastered Killzone 2 and 3 on PS4 1080p/60fps, PS4 Pro 4K/60fps as a remastered bundle, I'm sure that bundle would sell millions. Especially if announced alongside an upcoming Killzone 4 or Reboot. Fingers crossed, my friend!

jznrpg2097d ago

I don’t know if they need total reboot but at least a continuation, yes. Plenty of people want it , it doesn’t even have to be Guerilla developing it, Sony has plenty of studios that could handle it

Shadowolf2097d ago

@jznrpg

You bring up a great point concerning the development duties of the next Killzone. As we know, Guerrilla Cambridge before they were shut down created arguably the best handheld shooter experience on the PS Vita with Killzone Mercenary, which was a fantastic campaign and its multiplayer component was equally amazing!

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Square should ask Sony for more money...

gleepot37m ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

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Xbox Gives Incoherent Explanation For ‘Hi-Fi Rush’ Studio Closure

The gaming world is still reeling from the announcement that Microsoft is shuttering Tango Gameworks, the studio behind last year’s big Xbox hit, Hi-Fi Rush.

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Relientk7723h ago

There's no logical or good reason to give for closing Tango Gameworks. They make great games consistently and Hi-Fi Rush was the highest rated Xbox game in literal YEARS. Closing the studio was just plain stupid and nonsensical.

notachance4h ago

It’s quite strange to not see Phil Spencer in any talkshow or podcast… usually the dude would talk almost daily when there’s even a bit of news from xbox.

Hofstaderman3h ago

Muzzled and/or in on it from the very beginning. You have to be a very stupid person not to anticipate that your division is going to be under scrutiny from shareholders after 80 Billion Dollars worth of acquisitions

Aloymetal2h ago

The beauty of being a CEO here in America is that when your company does well, you get extra money as a reward...
And when your company does badly, you get extra money to encourage you to stick around and lead it through the storm...And at some point, you get to bow out and float toward retirement on your golden parachute, which means and you guessed it, MORE MONEY!! What a deal for snake oil man Phil!!

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purple1014h ago

Perhaps they think they can sweep this one under the rug, gamers will forget about it,

We will not

They made a good game and you put the whole studio in the bin, this couldn’t be clearer, ms don’t care, everyone suspected it, but now we KNOW it

Amplitude3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

She's kinda got the verbal communication of 3-years-ago Biden trying to say something he knows nothing about.
What she meant to say is: "We wasted our budget for the next couple years buying Call of Duty, and we're moving all our chips to that one series"

It's starting to seem quite obvious that XBox is going to be shutting down most of their studios or selling them off, then focusing on some sort of PC/Console hybrid OS for the next XBox where they can collect royalties Valve style.

esherwood1h ago

To be fair I don’t think there is a good answer, I’d rather her been honest but that probably would have pissed more people of then the word salad route.

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername11h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake10h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

Barlos8h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername1h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic18815h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_4h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces3h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning773h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

DarXyde4h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

Christopher3h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson39m ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

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CrashMania11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz10h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff21835h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman9h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware7308h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde4h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Aloymetal6h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware7306h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_4h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk779h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake5h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Charal9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast9h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware7307h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast7h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast2h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto34m ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

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