Sony Selling An Old Remaster At A Higher Price Than Its Sequel Is A Stupid Mistake

Gravity Rush Remastered was released almost 2 years ago in 2016.

[FallenAngel1984]

This reminds me of how Sony is still selling LittleBigPlanet for $20 on while LittleBigPlanet 2 & 3 are both selling for $10 on PS3.

[Kingthrash360]

Also reminds me how 360 games go for as high as 39.99 as an emulation on xbox one. Games that should be in the under $10 bargain bin are now priced super high like they are new

[Team_Litt]

They are the same price for Xbox One as they are for 360 because they are basically 360 games.
Wanna get mad? Take it up with the publishers.

[WhiteyFox]

Xbox 360 re-releases here cost like 15 euros... What are you talking about?

[starsi360]

You can still buy those games cheap/used on disc from a retailer and play on xbox one. Most if not all of the BC games have been on sale down to £6-12. If a game is at £39.99 it’s just because it’s reverted to its original price and is not on sale currently. With digital games they have to agree the offers with the publisher.

[Gunstar75]

How did this become an Xbox thread?

[SarkyPlays]

@gunstar75 because if something bad is said about a fanboys company of preference they feel obligated to do their best to drag the other through the mud. FYI this applies to all fanboys

[MadLad]

Funny how Microsoft offers a free emulator that runs a bunch of old titles at much better quality, right off the disc you can still get for fractions of the cost mentioned. You know, the price the people WHO MADE IT choose to have it at, and you have nothing but negativity. But then Sony removes backwards compatibility entirely, sells the games at a premium you can't help but pay to play, and then sells, normally, bar standard remasters of all their titles at a premium, and you want to call it the same thing out of bias.

Christ, you are disingenuous.

[TheSplooge]

$20 or less on digital for me. Dont know what you're smokin', but you might wanna look into things before you start spewin bs.

[dantesparda]

@Solesquared & Gunstar

"360 games can be played free if you owned them or you can buy from anywhere for a little of nothing. Please stop spreading lies"

He's not "spreading lies", he's telling the truth, you're the one that is trying to deceive here not him. Cuz you know damn well what he means and if you honestly dont then thats even worst, cuz it says something about your comprehension skills

"How did this become an Xbox thread?"

And you're another one, how can you not get why we brought it up? Its so obviously, he is simply pointing out that if you;'re gonna b'tch about the games being to expensive on the PSN store then it should be pointed out thats the same is also true for the Xbox store. Otherwise, its just biased fant'rd bs.

Wow, just look at how defensive (and how many) MS "fans" are getting just cuz he's pointing out the truth and hypocrisy. "Fans" are a joke.

[SwampthingsSon]

Just couldn’t go one comment without bringing Xbox up. 🙄

[pinkcrocodile75]

@thrash so what you are saying is both Microsoft AND Sony are acting like greedy c@nts

[gangsta_red]

@dantesparda

"Cuz you know damn well what he means..."

What does he man? And which games is he talking about since you know so damn well what he means?

You know what else hilarious....

"...he is simply pointing out that if you;'re gonna b'tch about the games being to expensive on the PSN store then it should be pointed out thats the same is also true for the Xbox store."

Followed by....

"...just look at how defensive (and how many) MS "fans" are getting"

Lmao.

So basically, Sony "fans" are getting defensive in an article specifically about Sony and then the "fans" have to run in and point the finger at Xbox..."bbubbbubu Xbox Too!"

But then you only point out how defensive Xbox fans are? You can't write better comedy acts than this...Absolutely hilarious.

[AgeInTheCage]

Thats almost as bad as forcing you to buy live gold to play fortnite.

[Kingthrash360]

It's hard to make a true comment on n4g. All I was pointing out is there are 360 games up to 39.99 in the xbox store for xbox one...these games used to cost way less until ms started to emulate them and charge a ton if you didnt already own the game. Not everyone keeps their games...hell most of you traded in games to upgrade to the xbox one....relax.
Xbox, Sony and Nintendo are greedy...yes. i'm just pointing out how much this isnt new and how MS is doing similar things on a wider scale. That comment was aimed at the journalist, he/she's the one who needs more information. Stop being all in your feelings about it.....if you need proof it's as simple as booting up your xbox and price checking.

[Kingthrash360]

https://marketplace.xbox.co...

Here is a link of a 360 game costing 49.99 in the backward compatibility section of the xbox store.
Dont PM me over this...go holla at ms

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

I’ve never seen these prices u speak of in the Xbox market place. Which game?

[Kingthrash360]

How am i bias??? Bro, I never said Sony didnt do this....read my comment I said ALL of them do it.
Stop being so sensitive bro. If you gunna bash one then bash all...clearly it's the journalist who's bias......but because you have an agenda you gunna ignore that and call me a bias fanboy because I showed that it's not only Sony.
No where in my comment did I say Sony didnt do it....it was yall gettin all mad because I made a severely valid point that stopped a flame bait article from starting a flame war for clicks.

[Muzikguy]

Is it a stupid mistake? In the days before the internet, material things went up in price as they aged. Other factors would play into that too like popularity of said item. People want prices to go down but if they don’t it’s not like it’s a new practice. Although being digital it sure seems shady

[Imalwaysright]

Prices would go up because as time goes by physical goods become more scarce and that increases their demand. Digital goods are there forever and it's easy to make a copy of them so this doesn't apply to them.

[agent4532]

Considering that old games and remastered games are cheaper on PC 😎

[Heavenly King]

the first one sold more and got better rated, that translates into being "better quality"; so if you want to play the "best" game pay more. It is very simple actually.

[Teflon02]

Gravity rush 2 is a way better game and I loved 1. 2 was one of my favourite games last year

[MasterChief3624]

You would think LittleBigPlanet 2 would be the most expensive, since it's the best game of the series.

[AgeInTheCage]

I got LBP 1 free from the security breach .

[Seraphim]

Oddly enough I bought it for $10-20 just 2-3 months ago. I constantly see both Gravity Rush and Gravity Rush 2 on sale via PSN.

If we want to get technical, then yes, there's a TON of games who's price isn't right via PSN/XBL. Sony and Publishers who's games are on these platforms really need to pay more attention to retail and price their games accordingly. But they don't. Let's leave it at $X so when it';s on sale it looks like a deal. Just like retailers who run advertisements do. It's actually only $5 off because the regular price isn't $200, it's $130 and on sale for $125. .......

[P_Bomb]

I see that sometimes with digital. The COD4 remastered map pack costs more today than it did 10yrs ago.

[shuvam09]

Really surprised at how Hyrule Warriors, Donkey Kong and Mario Tennis Aces are retailing for $60...

[Sgt_Slaughter]

Why did you include Aces? It's an entirely new game.

[G3ng4r]

A swing and a miss.

[Bahamut]

Nintendo, and Nintendo, and Nintendo. That's why.

[shinoff2183]

You think that's bad try getting a gravity rush 1 physical copy

[FallenAngel1984]

It’s mentioned in the article

“Remastered had a rather limited physical run which means it is almost hard to find a copy for it if you live in North America. The limited stock and high price make sense for a physical game but why carry it over to the digital space, where the concept of stock issues is non-existent.”

[rainslacker]

Demand is probably higher for the first game, since the retail version is harder to find, and even used it can be upwards of $100.

[FallenAngel1984]

Physical demand of games never impact how much it digitally sells for on PSN

[Toiletsteak]

Just checked Amazon and they have it.

[plmkoh]

No, those are the European versions. Everyone is out to get the American version because of the game cover. Go look at the American version, you will not find brand new, and if you do the prices are crazy.

[Toiletsteak]

@plmkoh

It's the exact same cover though, I just checked Amazon US and they are the same.

[plmkoh]

No it's not the same cover

Only the Japanese and US versions have the white minimalist cover. The European ones have the green ugly ones.

The US version is a collectors item because they were not supposed to get physical edition, but caved in to fan demand at the last second with a limited release. It was also limited to Amazon as well or something, which again made it exceedingly rare.

[Toiletsteak]

@plmkoh

I just checked and they are the same.

[Teflon02]

I'm in Canada and I had to order on American amazon because they didn't even sell it in Canada physical. They did sometime last year for a bit. But I'm not sure if they still do. But yes I have the NA version.

[JBryant0619]

Exactly why Im preordering the Shenmue 1/2 Collection. I feel like thats gonna be a limited print run.

[WeAreLegion]

Seriously? I didn't know it was that rare. Awesome. I have one.

[PapaBop]

This Sony bashing is getting hilarious, those straws look like they've been clutched enough. There are probably loads of examples on all platforms just like this one where the sequel is cheaper and besides, any smart consumer would hold out for sales, I picked up both Gravity Rush games for under a tenner each.

[ChrisW]

Sony bashing? This Sony bashing?

Wow... That's like saying, "Christmas is under attack because 0.01% of atheists don't like being greeted with 'Merry Christmas.'"

Sony bashing... Bah, get real! Sony is doing well enough that it doesn't matter.

[MadLad]

It's probably getting bashed because their direct competitor offers a free alternative that actually improves the overall quality of the titles, while the other puts everything behind a paywall, or par for the course remasters at a premium.

[TheSplooge]

Exactly.

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

"It's probably getting bashed because their direct competitor offers a free alternative"

You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Do you even know what console the original Gravity Rush was on?

[MadLad]

@gameseeker
Vita

And nothing I stated is wrong. Just depends on the bias those reading hold,, and what they're willing to accept and not accept.
You're just spewing words.

Fact, I can throw in original Xbox titles, and 360 that I own, and many will run in 4k/60fps.

I can go buy a ps1 title for ten bucks on the PlayStation store though. Only difference is Microsoft works on these titles and gives you options; Sony just throws it on the store and waits to profit. Guess my facts are too factual for you though.

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

You haven't explained yet how you plan on playing Gravity Rush on your PS4. Where exactly do you plan to stick the game cartridge?

[Silly gameAr]

"It's probably getting bashed because their direct competitor offers a free alternative that actually improves the overall quality of the titles, while the other puts everything behind a paywall, or par for the course remasters at a premium."

And, there it is. That's the comment I was looking for. I thought that this article was kind of pointless, but then I thought, if I were trying to make something that the competition has more appealing, what angle would I use. Oh, I know. Time to write a dramatic headline making a mountain out of a mole hill and see how many people bite.

[rainslacker]

Ms has an alternative to play vita game remasters? As far as I know, in this situation, ms has no solution, because if they had something similar, where the physical copy of the game was rare and expensive, then they'd probably price it based on demand as well. You can get the 2nd game for around 20 bucks new, but to my knowledge it was never releases on ps3 for it to even be part of bc.

[neutralgamer1992]

Slap

Yes and they offer much much much much much much much better exclusives, ps4 also has a lot of exclusives in general from publishers who don't see the benefit of releasing their games on another platform

So bravo ms for offering a way to play old games but hate on Sony for offering new experiences

Gamer logic 2018

Bc
Game pass
Ea access
Etc

Haven't helped at all selling the Xbox one compared to ps4 so that proves the fact those aren't important to most

In late 2012 can't wait for next Gen and in 2018 can't wait to play old games on my next Gen console

Sony might have faulted in few of these smaller feature areas but ms failed in making quality exclusives

Ms can't give you new titles so to make up for it they let you play their Last Gen games. Why did the fire Don matrick again? Wasn't he right when he saud if you don't like the direction buy an Xbox 360 oh that's right they fired him because they wanted people to buy a Xbox one to play older games not buy a Xbox 360

Sony:

You shouldn't be charging that much for digital that's wrong. Physical was limited release but digital shouldn't be that high

[OffRoadKing]

And according to the ones doing the bashing this is a "pro Sony site". But you'll have to forgive them their hypocrisy.

[sizeofyou]

@SlapHappy
Many...but nowhere near all. And only if you owned them in the first place. Some people transitioning to PS4 won't have an original anyway so they get to buy a proper reworking utilising new hardware.
As someone pointed out - it s not a unique case and it happens on both platforms. I looked at getting COD4 for my XBX and it was cheaper to buy the remaster than it was to buy the 'enhanced' B/C 360 game on MS store in sale. Prices vary and all depends on what you want and when you want it. Shop around and decide if you want digital or physical. If you don't care, it's normally much cheaper to go 2nd hand physical anyway. Don't get what all the fuss is about for one game on one platform...

[DialgaMarine]

Kind of like Nintendo selling DKTF Switch for $60, when it launched on Wii U for $50, and all they added was a character that made the game super easy for the casuals.

As much as I thoroughly love both GR 1 & 2, this is an obvious nitpick, simply because neither game was an amazing seller, and selling them at an even lower price won’t change that.

Hopefully they put them on Plus at some point so that people can at least experience them. Amazing and beautiful games. Kat is gaming BAE lol

[The 10th Rider]

Yeah, I've generally been okay with the Wii U remasters because most have been a good value. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe had all the DLC and an added battle mode, and was still like $40+ on Wii U. Hyrule Warriors included all the DLC, everything from the 3DS version, and had a couple things added and it was still like $40+ on Wii U. Captain Toad added a few things and it still hadn't had much of a price drop on Wii U.

Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze is just ridiculous though. The game launched at $50 and has been available for $20 for like 2 years now. They added a new character, sure, but at most it should have been $40 and even that would have been a little high. With GCU I might have picked it up at $40, but with the ridiculous pricing I'm not touching it unless I get it less than $20.

Back to the whole Gravity Rush thing, I don't think that's really a "Sony" issue. I think poor digital pricing is more of an industry wide issue. Generally game prices aren't dropped much on digital platforms and instead they rely on flash sales and stuff to get people to buy things. Unfortunately more obscure games such as Gravity Rush get even less attention and generally see fewer price drops and fewer sales. The industry in general needs to get a better grip on digital pricing.

[KillZallthebeast]

It's because some people will pay it. I've noticed a lot of older games hike back up in price now instead of staying low. Some games I wanted to go back and try that are 4-5 years old costing like 30 or 40 still is just stupid

[Sm311M3Fart]

I love the remaster but don’t like the sequel, so no surprise here.

[Razzer]

The cost of doing the remaster? I don't know. It is ten bucks. Not worth an article.

[ILostMyMind]

Indeed

[Tzuno]

You wanted digital? Now pay.

[traumadisaster]

Edit: disregard it must be another game I was thinking about, I confirmed. The words gravity and rush are common to a lot of steam games.

I'll have to check, it seems like I got those games on Steam sales years ago for a few quid.

[StormLegend]

Are you sure you’re talking about the same games??? These are exclusive to PlayStation. It was made by Sony japan studio.

[spambot0815]

nope, it's not. gravity rush is a better game than it's sequel so a higher price is justified.

[Edito]

Ok I'm a Sony fan but this is beyond stupid...

[rainslacker]

When I get around to playing it, I'll probably buy the digital copy. My sealed physical copy is worth a lot of noney.

[Neonridr]

I seem to remember Nintendo getting flak for selling Switch ports of Wii U games at the same price as when they were on Wii U. Wonder if this is ok though.

[NapalmSanctuary]

Probably to those who bought those games on Wii U. But those like myself who never owned a Wii U couldn't care less. There are probably exceptions, but I didn't give 2 f**ks about a previous version when I bought MK8 Deluxe for $60.

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

Not even close to being the same thing, but nice try though. The complaint about the Wii U games was that Nintendo at launch was selling them for the same price or higher when they ported them to the Switch. Here the issue is that Sony has lowered the MSRP of Gravity Rush 2 (something Nintendo never does) and that the new MSRP is lower than the price of the remastered Gravity Rush.

[Neonridr]

fair enough, thanks for clarifying. Cheers.

[DivineAssault]

Good series. I paid more than even this because i bought both when they launched

[TheSplooge]

"Remaster"? More like paid BC for a game with a higer res and filters 😅

Anti-consumers for sure..

[jznrpg]

It was a Vita game how is this BC? It wasn’t on PS3

[TheSplooge]

Oh. Still doesnt defeat the fact that charging for bc is what they do 😉

[Jrios355]

@TheSplooge
So I guess every remastered game ever is "paid backwards compatability"? Like all of Nintendo's Switch re-releases, Microsoft's Halo: The Master Chief Collection, third party games like Batman: Back To Arkham, Sleeping Dogs, Darksiders, even some from Sony like The Last of Us Remastered and God of War III Remastered? They're all "paid backwards compatability"?

Your logic is flawed.

[zodiac909]

It must be international hate playstation month.

[robleroy]

None

[Teflon02]

Why is this a complaint. It's price since release was like $30 vs $60 or whatever for 2. You can get both games for under $60.thats all that matters. Why don't you go complain about Nintendo selling a rereleased $10 more than the initial release 3 years prior. Dk tropical freeze.
This is simply a priority game for Sony dropped in price. Gravity rush remaster is already a hard enough game to get physical and even more. They may have kept the price so Atleast the vita version that's like $15 still has a bit of value since it doesn't come with the dlc

[Silly gameAr]

They're digging for whatever and throwing whatever crap that will stick.

[rainslacker]

We could go look at every publishers listings on any number of store fronts and probably find at least one wtf pricing issue with games and their sequels.

It's really dumb to bicker about it imo

[Silly gameAr]

I agree. It is dumb. Which is why it's dumb to single Gravity Rush out and make it seem like Sony is trying to get one over on everyone.

It really seems like these blogs are finding random stuff and putting a negative slant on it, because they know it will get attention.

[CrimsonWing69]

I'll never understand the pricing of digital. I think it should always be cheaper than physical... yet physical is waaaay cheaper down the road while digital stays at ridiculous prices.

[Silly gameAr]

I bought Gravity Rush RE in a PS Store sale for 8.99.

[RabbitFly]

This happens all the time. Everywhere. Pointless article and clearly trying to bait in the fanboys.

[LoveSpuds]

Suspect it's a matter of supply and demand in most cases, while the sequel is relatively easy to source online, Gravity Rush is more difficult to find.

I always make sure to buy these more niche titles as they often become tough to come by. I would heartily recommend the first game, it really was a fantastic port of a brilliant game.

[Teflon02]

Same, I learned my lesson last Gen. With alot of ps3 titles.
I always grab niche games day one even if I'm not going to play them for a year or 2. I like physical and I'll hate if those prices go up or its impossible to find.

[MasterChief3624]

"yet the PS4 remaster is still being sold for $29.99, which is almost $10 USD higher than the price for its sequel."

Almost $10 USD higher? It IS $10 USD higher. $19.99 is exactly $10 less than $29.99. Boom. Quick maths.

[chris235]

again: who is giving money for remasters deserves to be scammed out of his or her mind.

[Davidgr2]

Nintendo sells ports of old games at full price and I don’t see anyone complaining. Most ports run terrible on Switch despite downgrading its graphics but they still want $60 for it.

[sampsonon]

umm? when s spider man's release date again?

[That_Guy244]

Not really so long as there are suckers who buy it.

[Blu3_Berry]

I mean it's not really a surprise to me. They probably only made a limited run for the remasterd compared to its sequel. It is a rather niche game but I thoroughly enjoyed them. Luckily I own both physical copies so it don't affect me in the slightest.

[RyanDJ]

It’s because people want the first of a story based game first in order to know it all. The sequel is cheaper to get more impulse buys. That’s all it is.

Years from now Metal Gear Solid 1 will be $10, and 2-5 will be sold for $5 or whatever equivalent.

There’s more demand for the first in a story. You wouldn’t buy Two Towers instead of Fellowship because you could save a couple bucks, and Sony knows that you might be looking at a one-shot, so sell the first more expensive.

[SR38813]

Ninty do same with Mario games

[Goukira]

Am I wrong or are there articles popping up on this site trying to bash Sony in any way they could after E3? With cross play, bad presentation, no new games etc...

[thexmanone]

But the articles popping up are just telling the truth. Sony bashing is allowed.

[Silly gameAr]

No one is saying it isn't allowed genius. If you're going to tell the truth, tell the truth about everyone. Why single out a company for doing something that others also do?

[isarai]

But i mean isn't that the point in the "Greatest Hits" games? that we're supposed to get them cheaper cause they already sold so well that they can afford to sell them cheaper? Gravity rush and the remaster did not sell very well, and so it's not on the greatest hits list

[The7Reaper]

This... seems like a non issue and not even worth getting upset about but whatever.

[EnsignHiro]

Yet people dont realize most Nintendo games stay full price for a very long time. I get what the author is saying, but some games that dont have a ton of shipped copies can cost more even after a longvtime that the games been out.

[WelkinCole]

Just because a game came before another does not mean it should always be cheaper. Perhaps its more expensive to remaster a Vita game to PS4 or that there is more demand for it than GR2.

Besides its Sony's IP and they can price it however the hell they like. Same way if I want to price my Dynasty Warriors more than TOLU on the second hand market that is my business. Don't like thats not my problem.

Some people man. They bitch about anything now.

[Kumakai]

Sony is becoming the Apple of consoles

[michellelynn0976]

I would buy both myself. I love GR, a very underrated game series.

[Shineon]

Hurry defend sony

[Futureshark]

A quick bandwagon jump to bash Sony for no real reason by the looks of it, gets the author some clicks from the pitchfork waving mob.
I believe that if you were interested in getting either of these games digitally, you might be good to get them in one of the many, many huge digital sales that Sony run pretty much all the time.