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PlayerUnknown: Xbox Is Synonymous with Gaming, PUBG To Run at 60FPS on Xbox One X

Brendan 'PlayerUnknown' Greene said that the Xbox brand is synonymous with gaming. He also confirmed that PUBG will run at 60FPS on the Xbox One X, while Bluehole might have to limit it at 30FPS on regular Xbox One.

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ChristMustDie2379d ago

I will be AMAZED if the Xbox One X can run PUBG at 60FPS. My computer is mid-high end and it really used to struggle with the frame rate in PUBG. The dream is that PUBG runs at a solid 60FPS, but I'm thinking it's probably limited to 60FPS meaning it'll drop in action-heavy scenarios.

Neonridr2379d ago

possibly, but it also comes down to what settings things are set to. And remember that console GPU's can do a lot more than the PC counterparts. In many cases a console GPU with less power can still outperform cards that have higher specs since consoles have direct access to the GPU. Why do you think that a PS4 with the equivalent of a Radeon 7850(ish) can still output some amazing visuals? Low level access helps whereas PC's have to go through connection channels which can lead to bottlenecks in transfer speeds.

So again, not saying that it will be a steady 60FPS, but it's possible if some of the settings are tweaked.

ProjectVulcan2379d ago (Edited 2379d ago )

There is a big difference in performance on the settings with PUBG. The difference between the highest settings and medium in terms of frame rate is pretty huge. Then there is the question of what resolution it will actually run at. It won't be hard to get 60FPS on console if the settings are dialled back.

Also the optimisation differences between PC and console aren't what they once were. A console with a GPU like an RX580 aka Xbox One X isn't really much faster than a PC with an RX 580 in the real world. The PC has noticeable advantages in terms of CPU performance and amount of memory.

It's not like the days where consoles had bizarre custom hardware that had to be brute forced on PC to get the same results. Consoles are just closed platform fixed hardware PC these days and their performance is as such. They don't have a massive optimisation advantage any more.

LP-Eleven2379d ago

@ ProjectVulcan: Yup. Someone who gets it!

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ProjectVulcan2378d ago (Edited 2378d ago )

I will be clear here, it's not that consoles don't have optimization advantages being a fixed platform, they do. It's just nothing like as big as people make out and think it is these days versus a modern PC.

@ImGumbyDammit "The days are still here the Xbox GPU end is highly customized silicon. Nothing comparable on the PC is available"

We both know this isn't true. Virtually everything inside Xbox One, Xbox One X and PS4 for that matter is derived from existing consumer PC hardware. Be it the x86 CPU architecture that has been around for decades with THE SPECIFIC CPU being lifted wholesale out of AMD's mobile lineup in 2013, or the AMD GPU ripped right from their current design evolution that has been going on for years and a known quantity in the PC space. Right down to the selection of memory modules which are nothing fancy whatsoever.

It's a far cry from the days of RISC processors and vector units of PS2, gamecube, X360. Many consoles boasting strange memory configurations, totally custom fixed function processors and stuff like the bizarre CELL CPU and XDR memory of PS3.

These consoles are existing PC hardware nailed together on one die in a small box, with little tweaks to smooth over the joins. Nothing more, nothing less. No crazy custom hardware with fixed functions that PC has to emulate.

There used to be totally custom developer tools for consoles, with entirely their own programming language and API subsets, often to deal with the kooky hardware inside. Little transferred across to Direct3D on PC. Not so anymore. Low level APIs on PC like DX12, OpenGL and offshoots like Vulkan share a great deal with their PS4 and Xbox One counterparts, indeed, both having large components of their software based around these technologies!

Case in point is all these Xbox One to PC games we see- A developer codes a game and it works immediately on both platforms. They need specific tweaks but it's astounding how easily they transfer. Back in the day you needed a near TOTAL rewrite between many console games moving to PC, and vice versa!

Unified memory consoles have major drawbacks as well as advantages, if you didn't know.

We could get into talk about memory bandwidth and latency but really that would need another post of mine to explain the situation to you and why you are badly badly wrong and totally misunderstand the situation between a modern PC and a console memory architecture.

But if you want it then I'll knock it up for you, let me know.

WilliamSheridan2378d ago

Actually consoles still rewrite PCs to brute force to catch up. Because PCs have sup many other processes, bloated OS that can do more, and usually have so many variations that they are never fully optimized.

OpenGL2378d ago

@ImGumbyDammit

The memory bandwidth argument is completely pointless because Nvidia's color compression is a lot more sophisticated than what the Xbox One X uses. The 1070Ti matches our outperforms the Vega 56 in most games despite only having 256GB/s of memory bandwidth versus Vega 56's 409GB.

The 1080 comparison is also cute because it's got 8GB of dedicated VRAM while Xbox One X games in total share 9GB of RAM between the CPU and GPU. Yeah, the Xbox One X is at a huge advantage!

ABizzel12378d ago (Edited 2378d ago )

@ProjectVulcan

You're wasting your time with these people. N4G is not the community for having a technology discussion, because they can only go by what a developer or Digital Foundry tells them is gospel, but without having a hint of computer programming / graphics processing knowledge themselves they can only ignorantly build comments based off theoretically knowledge that was provided to them generations ago where consoles didn't use semi-custom off the shelf products, and PC API's weren't nearly as solid as they are today.

There's no need to look any further than why a 750 Ti, a budget card to the maximum, was outperforming the XBO and often times better than the PS4 in the same games.

With the hardware they have consoles only do "better" when it comes to exclusives because developers have time to focus all their efforts on that specific game, and can build optimizations location by location, and scene by scene. Overall these GPUs in console are the same GPUs in PCs, the difference is the PC has a significantly better CPU, and can actively overclock its GPU for even better performance.

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Imp0ssibl32379d ago

Yep, they probably mean when there's no one around...But it's a sandbox game and potentially many characters can get together at once.

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343_Guilty_Spark2379d ago

The X is more optimized than your PC.

bluefox7552379d ago (Edited 2379d ago )

Depends on the settings, on the medium to lower settings a 750ti can run it at 60fps (not solid, but this game is very unstable in that area), but not too bad either. With some concessions to settings, I can't imagine it would be all that difficult.

kevnb2379d ago (Edited 2379d ago )

the game has been optimized quite a bit over time, but its still nice to see they went with 60 fps. I dont think 30 fps is acceptable anymore in a multiplayer shooter, thats why crucible in destiny 2 sucks.

Ittoittosai2379d ago

Mid to high PC is the same as your friends thats where consoles outshine PCs optimization if devs spend the time on it.

Smokingunz2378d ago

The x is a very powerful console which is probably more powerful than ypur low to mid range pcthat's even if your pc is as powerful as u say

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UKRsoldja2378d ago

That's only because it's poorly optimized on pc. It's not an amazing looking game by any means.

Cyborgg2378d ago

So is this going to be 1080 60fps or 4K 60 fps? Is it Native 4K or Dynamic 4K?

nitrogav2378d ago

You are right . Doesn`t look like Xbox One X will be running at 60 FPS after all . http://www.gameinformer.com...

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KaiPow2379d ago

I'd be worried about the FPS parity if they're putting S and X players on the same server. That's a pretty big advantage

Neonridr2379d ago

yeah but PC gamers deal with this every day. I mean I have an 8700K with a 1080ti. I play with gamers that have i5's and 970's. Our frame rates are different, our resolutions are different. But we all make it work :P

maybelovehate2379d ago

Haha, yep. I was just talking with someone about this regarding Destiny on PC.

yeahokwhatever2379d ago

within the PC space it's expected. It's a very risky move in the console world. Remember when the Pro first came out and BF1 was "too good" and needed to be gimped to "level the playing field"?

morganfell2379d ago

In the PC space, gamers can choose to optimize the title to their own liking. Not so with consoles. Outside of the lock a frame rate or not, what you get is what you get. So yeah, PC gamers deal with this all the time and they have the freedom and choices that are not even remotely available on a console.

Bigpappy2378d ago

Same choice with the X. If you think its and advantage, just buy and X. Just like the pro controller or a steering wheel for Forza. Not a big problem at all. When you feel the need, you upgrade, That's what upgrade means.

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Obscure_Observer2379d ago

@KaiPow

Yeah. This is a very valid concern since it gives X owners clear advantage over the OG and S owners. MS said that devs wouldn´t be allowed to do it and break balance on MP.

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yeahokwhatever2379d ago

They lie pretty much constantly. Nobody should be surprised.

UncertainCategory2379d ago

Where does this forced FPS parity thing keep coming from? MS never said that. In fact here's a tweet from Mike Ybarra dating back to May disproving your claim: https://www.gamespot.com/im...

There's certainty been debate about this since the PS4 Pro, but even on that system there is no enforced 'parity clause.' Dark Souls 3 for example, running at a locked 30 on PS4, and unlocked 40-60ish on PS4 pro. That game of course has a multiplayer component.

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chrisoadamson2379d ago

Reference please I have never heard this ?

Bigpappy2378d ago

I remember very clearly Phil saying that this was up to developers. How come you can't?

UltraNova2378d ago

Guys, when Phil talked about devs having the choice on whete they want to focus (rez,fps, quality settings etc) he did not specify or go into detail regarding MP performance between OG xb1, S and X.

I cannot recall if MS/Phil ever touched on this matter but is seems they should.

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kevnb2379d ago (Edited 2379d ago )

Microsoft arent a bunch of communists. A higher framerate doesn't really give a huge advantage in games, it just looks a whole lot nicer. I mean 60 fps is more responsive then 30 fps, but on a gamepad with a little auto-aim its a very minimal advantage.

Obscure_Observer2378d ago

@kevnb

You have no idea what you´re talking about. Period!

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

No disrespect, but, i rather take Digital Foundry´s input on this kind of matter over yours, any day.

starrman19852378d ago (Edited 2378d ago )

Problem is, with BF1 as you've used as an example it's not so much the increased framerate, it's that it's a lot more stable on the Pro. Locked 30 vs locked 60 will look much nicer on the eyes, but once you're familiar with either you'll much the same.

Having the frame rate drop from 50 to 30, then back to 50 is jarring and that's when you'll have difficulty.

So, if they get it stable 30 FPS on the One and stable 60 on the One X it wont be such a huge advantage.

slavish02378d ago

U r lying sony is the one with fps parity fool. U dont think me playing in 4k vs 720p or 1ms monitor or elite control isnt a huge advantage?

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AizenSosuke2379d ago

Can't wait and see the results

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SpaceRanger2379d ago

Yup!

Too bad for all 25+ million base Xbox One users. Hopefully they don’t divide the fanbase too much.

Gazondaily2379d ago

Agreed!

If this manages to be crossplay with other consoles, that would cause even more division based on performance.

yeahokwhatever2379d ago

"that would cause even more division based on performance"
You cant be meaning PS3 or XB360, and likely not Switch, so you MUST be talking about PS4/Pro. In case you missed it, the base model PS4 is much, much faster than the base(and s) XB1. This means that your fanboy language "even more" is inaccurate and stupid. There would be MUCH LESS division based on performance if XB1X was cross play with the base PS4 as opposed to the base XB1/S. If you want "beastly" get a PC. Is it crossplay with PC? Because if so, I'll be looking for a trashcan named Septic to pwn all over that PUBG island, and I'll be doing so with EVEN MORE division based on performance. ;-)

slate912379d ago

Look Septic, you got spacecowboy on his alt account LOL

SpaceRanger2379d ago

@slate91

What alternate account? I’ve always and only had this account.

alb18992379d ago

If it runs at 30 fps then you ask where is the Beast but if runs 60fps then you say that MS forgot about the base xboxone users.....you guys go and play your millions of excusives. Let us worry about XBOX.

Gazondaily2379d ago

@alb

Lol exactly! So ridiculous!

Instead they should worry about the fps on their consoles

aconnellan2379d ago

Lol so now the X having really good performance and optimisation is a bad thing?

Would you suggest that Sony should scrap the PS5 then because it’ll alienate the PS4 users?

mark_parch2378d ago

people have constantly been talking about xbox one x and the fact it should have improved frame rates since we first heard about it and now there's the chance of that happening people are complaining. all I know is I purchased an xbox one x and I want the developers to get the most out of it as possible

morganfell2378d ago

Why is it bad for them? Because it will be running the same as the X1X version

https://www.pcgamesn.com/pl...

Its only bad for people running around making beastly comments.

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SpaceRanger2378d ago (Edited 2378d ago )

“Instead they should worry about the fps on their consoles.”

The hypocrisy of this generation:
Xbox Users - Resolution doesn’t matter, games matter (X1 lacks both).
PS4 Users - Both matter. It’s possible to have both.

Xbox Users - Quality of exclusives matters, not quantity.
PS4 Users - Why not both?

Xbox Users - HDR is a game changer! I’d buy Xbox again just to get it. No one else can offer it!
PS4 Users - (1 month later) All 55+ million PS4 user seems get HDR for free through update.

Xbox Users - VR is outdated. It’s all about AR. (Hololens for Xbox gets canned and VR for 1X gets canned).
PS4 Users- All 55+ million PS4s get VR support. (Becomes most successful VR platform).

Xbox Users - 4k matters, no “Chinese checkerboarding”. (Completely forget that
99% of fanbase still games at 720p-900p).
PS4 Users - Resolution has and always will matter. Vast majority of PS4 games are at 1080p-4k.

I wonder what’s next of this “beastly” console you speak of? 🤔

All I know is that I wish my Xbox One had more support.

Enjoigamin2378d ago

Damn...just go sell your xbox if it upsets you that much ...

SpaceRanger2378d ago

Would if my best bud had a PS4, played any other game besides RS: Siege and didn’t live so far away.

Enjoigamin2378d ago

Sounds like a terrible friend

Kiwi662378d ago (Edited 2378d ago )

You make it look one sided yet there are things said from both sides, just look back at most of this gen to see what has been said from both sides of the fence

slavish02378d ago

If u r happy with that post... then y r u here???🤣

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Eonjay2378d ago

I can't believed you really bought that.

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kenna9992377d ago

Don't see you in the new battlegrounds story? What a surprise

Gazondaily2377d ago

You actually looked out for me? ❤

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Kribwalker2379d ago

Can’t wait to give this a go

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XDefiant dev confirms release date for upcoming sniper nerf patch

Following a wave of community complaints, XDefiant executive producer Mark Rubin has confirmed when players can expect the sniper nerf patch to arrive.

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"We are the competitors of GTA 6, Forza, The Crew," says TDU: Solar Crown

Amaar writes: "Our recent interview with TDU: Solar Crown's game director reveals their ambitions to compete with titans in the gaming industry."

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So far, it doesn't look like it.

dumahim23h ago

I dunno. Might actually be better than Forza Motorsport 2023 was at launch.

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@DivineHand125

Yes. All of the ones on Xbox since the beginning. I even have the original Best Buy demo copy and FM2 limited edition that they didn't even sell in the US.

BeHunted10h ago

Did you actually read the article? They're talking about open world games like Forza Horizon, The Crew, etc. Not circuit racers; otherwise, they'd mention Gran Turismo.

MrBaskerville5h ago

Unpopular opinion it seems. But yeah, Forza Motorsport was the worst game in the series since Forza Motorsport 5. Huge letdown. Did they ever rework it? absolutely hated the campaign progression and the rpg systems relating to upgrading cars. Ended up just going back to 6 and 7 instead, those two also had a LOT more stages.

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Jingsing1d 2h ago

Only a competitor if your game works fully offline and isn't some service.

DigitallyAfflicted1d 1h ago

it sounds like this game is stuck in last generation.

Skuletor1d 1h ago

Personally, I wouldn't want my game compared with The Crew at all, I certainly wouldn't be the one making the comparison either.

ElaBosak13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

How so? It's a very successful and popular racing franchise. Any game entering the genre is competing with racing games including The Crew.

Skuletor12h ago

It wasn't very long ago Ubisoft shutdown the original The Crew's servers, making every copy unplayable. I wouldn't want to be associated with that controversy.

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Days Gone Director Says Bend's Project Costs Over $250M; Says PS Co-CEO Doesn't Want 2 Zombies Games

Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.

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shinoff21835d ago

Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player

MrNinosan4d ago

What online trash games did PS Studios release last 10 years?

Notellin4d ago

The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.

_SilverHawk_4d ago

It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.

Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.

If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated

Cacabunga4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.

Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.

MrNinosan4d ago

@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.

You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.

Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.

And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.

The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.

shinoff21834d ago (Edited 4d ago )

More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.

Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.

And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol

SimpleDad3d ago

Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.

They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.

Helldivers 2 was luck.

Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.

Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.

Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something

I can't remember more... Of that crap.

tay87013d ago

@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.

MrNinosan3d ago

@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.

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just_looken3d ago

I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.

Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.

Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.

-Foxtrot5d ago

It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.

NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.

ThinkThink4d ago

Here's where xbox steps in and releases state of decay 3 day and date on ps5.

shinoff21834d ago

I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Grilla4d ago

Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.

vfl5234d ago

4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.

Notellin4d ago

Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.

Redemption-644d ago

Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.

Cacabunga4d ago

The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.

tay87013d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.

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excaliburps4d ago

Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?

I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.

The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!

Grilla4d ago

Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.

Notellin4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.

What a bootlicker statement.

derek4d ago

@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.

shinoff21834d ago

Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol

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P_Bomb4d ago

Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.

CrimsonWing694d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!

rippermcrip4d ago

Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.

It sold shit.

-Foxtrot4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding

Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.

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