PlayerUnknown: Xbox Is Synonymous with Gaming, PUBG To Run at 60FPS on Xbox One X

Brendan 'PlayerUnknown' Greene said that the Xbox brand is synonymous with gaming. He also confirmed that PUBG will run at 60FPS on the Xbox One X, while Bluehole might have to limit it at 30FPS on regular Xbox One.

[ChristMustDie]

I will be AMAZED if the Xbox One X can run PUBG at 60FPS. My computer is mid-high end and it really used to struggle with the frame rate in PUBG. The dream is that PUBG runs at a solid 60FPS, but I'm thinking it's probably limited to 60FPS meaning it'll drop in action-heavy scenarios.

[Neonridr]

possibly, but it also comes down to what settings things are set to. And remember that console GPU's can do a lot more than the PC counterparts. In many cases a console GPU with less power can still outperform cards that have higher specs since consoles have direct access to the GPU. Why do you think that a PS4 with the equivalent of a Radeon 7850(ish) can still output some amazing visuals? Low level access helps whereas PC's have to go through connection channels which can lead to bottlenecks in transfer speeds.

So again, not saying that it will be a steady 60FPS, but it's possible if some of the settings are tweaked.

[ProjectVulcan]

There is a big difference in performance on the settings with PUBG. The difference between the highest settings and medium in terms of frame rate is pretty huge. Then there is the question of what resolution it will actually run at. It won't be hard to get 60FPS on console if the settings are dialled back.

Also the optimisation differences between PC and console aren't what they once were. A console with a GPU like an RX580 aka Xbox One X isn't really much faster than a PC with an RX 580 in the real world. The PC has noticeable advantages in terms of CPU performance and amount of memory.

It's not like the days where consoles had bizarre custom hardware that had to be brute forced on PC to get the same results. Consoles are just closed platform fixed hardware PC these days and their performance is as such. They don't have a massive optimisation advantage any more.

[LP-Eleven]

@ ProjectVulcan: Yup. Someone who gets it!

[ProjectVulcan]

I will be clear here, it's not that consoles don't have optimization advantages being a fixed platform, they do. It's just nothing like as big as people make out and think it is these days versus a modern PC.

@ImGumbyDammit "The days are still here the Xbox GPU end is highly customized silicon. Nothing comparable on the PC is available"

We both know this isn't true. Virtually everything inside Xbox One, Xbox One X and PS4 for that matter is derived from existing consumer PC hardware. Be it the x86 CPU architecture that has been around for decades with THE SPECIFIC CPU being lifted wholesale out of AMD's mobile lineup in 2013, or the AMD GPU ripped right from their current design evolution that has been going on for years and a known quantity in the PC space. Right down to the selection of memory modules which are nothing fancy whatsoever.

It's a far cry from the days of RISC processors and vector units of PS2, gamecube, X360. Many consoles boasting strange memory configurations, totally custom fixed function processors and stuff like the bizarre CELL CPU and XDR memory of PS3.

These consoles are existing PC hardware nailed together on one die in a small box, with little tweaks to smooth over the joins. Nothing more, nothing less. No crazy custom hardware with fixed functions that PC has to emulate.

There used to be totally custom developer tools for consoles, with entirely their own programming language and API subsets, often to deal with the kooky hardware inside. Little transferred across to Direct3D on PC. Not so anymore. Low level APIs on PC like DX12, OpenGL and offshoots like Vulkan share a great deal with their PS4 and Xbox One counterparts, indeed, both having large components of their software based around these technologies!

Case in point is all these Xbox One to PC games we see- A developer codes a game and it works immediately on both platforms. They need specific tweaks but it's astounding how easily they transfer. Back in the day you needed a near TOTAL rewrite between many console games moving to PC, and vice versa!

Unified memory consoles have major drawbacks as well as advantages, if you didn't know.

We could get into talk about memory bandwidth and latency but really that would need another post of mine to explain the situation to you and why you are badly badly wrong and totally misunderstand the situation between a modern PC and a console memory architecture.

But if you want it then I'll knock it up for you, let me know.

[WilliamSheridan]

Actually consoles still rewrite PCs to brute force to catch up. Because PCs have sup many other processes, bloated OS that can do more, and usually have so many variations that they are never fully optimized.

[gums007]

I don't get it...

[OpenGL]

@ImGumbyDammit

The memory bandwidth argument is completely pointless because Nvidia's color compression is a lot more sophisticated than what the Xbox One X uses. The 1070Ti matches our outperforms the Vega 56 in most games despite only having 256GB/s of memory bandwidth versus Vega 56's 409GB.

The 1080 comparison is also cute because it's got 8GB of dedicated VRAM while Xbox One X games in total share 9GB of RAM between the CPU and GPU. Yeah, the Xbox One X is at a huge advantage!

[ABizzel1]

@ProjectVulcan

You're wasting your time with these people. N4G is not the community for having a technology discussion, because they can only go by what a developer or Digital Foundry tells them is gospel, but without having a hint of computer programming / graphics processing knowledge themselves they can only ignorantly build comments based off theoretically knowledge that was provided to them generations ago where consoles didn't use semi-custom off the shelf products, and PC API's weren't nearly as solid as they are today.

There's no need to look any further than why a 750 Ti, a budget card to the maximum, was outperforming the XBO and often times better than the PS4 in the same games.

With the hardware they have consoles only do "better" when it comes to exclusives because developers have time to focus all their efforts on that specific game, and can build optimizations location by location, and scene by scene. Overall these GPUs in console are the same GPUs in PCs, the difference is the PC has a significantly better CPU, and can actively overclock its GPU for even better performance.

[Imp0ssibl3]

Yep, they probably mean when there's no one around...But it's a sandbox game and potentially many characters can get together at once.

[maybelovehate]

What GPU do you have?

[343_Guilty_Spark]

The X is more optimized than your PC.

[bluefox755]

Depends on the settings, on the medium to lower settings a 750ti can run it at 60fps (not solid, but this game is very unstable in that area), but not too bad either. With some concessions to settings, I can't imagine it would be all that difficult.

[kevnb]

the game has been optimized quite a bit over time, but its still nice to see they went with 60 fps. I dont think 30 fps is acceptable anymore in a multiplayer shooter, thats why crucible in destiny 2 sucks.

[Ittoittosai]

Mid to high PC is the same as your friends thats where consoles outshine PCs optimization if devs spend the time on it.

[Smokingunz]

The x is a very powerful console which is probably more powerful than ypur low to mid range pcthat's even if your pc is as powerful as u say

[UKRsoldja]

That's only because it's poorly optimized on pc. It's not an amazing looking game by any means.

[Cyborgg]

So is this going to be 1080 60fps or 4K 60 fps? Is it Native 4K or Dynamic 4K?

[nitrogav]

You are right . Doesn`t look like Xbox One X will be running at 60 FPS after all . http://www.gameinformer.com...

[KaiPow]

I'd be worried about the FPS parity if they're putting S and X players on the same server. That's a pretty big advantage

[Neonridr]

yeah but PC gamers deal with this every day. I mean I have an 8700K with a 1080ti. I play with gamers that have i5's and 970's. Our frame rates are different, our resolutions are different. But we all make it work :P

[maybelovehate]

Haha, yep. I was just talking with someone about this regarding Destiny on PC.

[yeahokwhatever]

within the PC space it's expected. It's a very risky move in the console world. Remember when the Pro first came out and BF1 was "too good" and needed to be gimped to "level the playing field"?

[morganfell]

In the PC space, gamers can choose to optimize the title to their own liking. Not so with consoles. Outside of the lock a frame rate or not, what you get is what you get. So yeah, PC gamers deal with this all the time and they have the freedom and choices that are not even remotely available on a console.

[Bigpappy]

Same choice with the X. If you think its and advantage, just buy and X. Just like the pro controller or a steering wheel for Forza. Not a big problem at all. When you feel the need, you upgrade, That's what upgrade means.

[Obscure_Observer]

@KaiPow

Yeah. This is a very valid concern since it gives X owners clear advantage over the OG and S owners. MS said that devs wouldn´t be allowed to do it and break balance on MP.

[yeahokwhatever]

They lie pretty much constantly. Nobody should be surprised.

[UncertainCategory]

Where does this forced FPS parity thing keep coming from? MS never said that. In fact here's a tweet from Mike Ybarra dating back to May disproving your claim: https://www.gamespot.com/im...

There's certainty been debate about this since the PS4 Pro, but even on that system there is no enforced 'parity clause.' Dark Souls 3 for example, running at a locked 30 on PS4, and unlocked 40-60ish on PS4 pro. That game of course has a multiplayer component.

[chrisoadamson]

Reference please I have never heard this ?

[Bigpappy]

I remember very clearly Phil saying that this was up to developers. How come you can't?

[UltraNova]

Guys, when Phil talked about devs having the choice on whete they want to focus (rez,fps, quality settings etc) he did not specify or go into detail regarding MP performance between OG xb1, S and X.

I cannot recall if MS/Phil ever touched on this matter but is seems they should.

[chrisoadamson]

Get an X then

[kevnb]

Microsoft arent a bunch of communists. A higher framerate doesn't really give a huge advantage in games, it just looks a whole lot nicer. I mean 60 fps is more responsive then 30 fps, but on a gamepad with a little auto-aim its a very minimal advantage.

[Obscure_Observer]

@kevnb

You have no idea what you´re talking about. Period!

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

No disrespect, but, i rather take Digital Foundry´s input on this kind of matter over yours, any day.

[starrman1985]

Problem is, with BF1 as you've used as an example it's not so much the increased framerate, it's that it's a lot more stable on the Pro. Locked 30 vs locked 60 will look much nicer on the eyes, but once you're familiar with either you'll much the same.

Having the frame rate drop from 50 to 30, then back to 50 is jarring and that's when you'll have difficulty.

So, if they get it stable 30 FPS on the One and stable 60 on the One X it wont be such a huge advantage.

[slavish0]

U r lying sony is the one with fps parity fool. U dont think me playing in 4k vs 720p or 1ms monitor or elite control isnt a huge advantage?

[AizenSosuke]

Can't wait and see the results

[Gazondaily]

BEASTLY!

[SpaceRanger]

Yup!

Too bad for all 25+ million base Xbox One users. Hopefully they don’t divide the fanbase too much.

[Gazondaily]

Agreed!

If this manages to be crossplay with other consoles, that would cause even more division based on performance.

[yeahokwhatever]

"that would cause even more division based on performance"
You cant be meaning PS3 or XB360, and likely not Switch, so you MUST be talking about PS4/Pro. In case you missed it, the base model PS4 is much, much faster than the base(and s) XB1. This means that your fanboy language "even more" is inaccurate and stupid. There would be MUCH LESS division based on performance if XB1X was cross play with the base PS4 as opposed to the base XB1/S. If you want "beastly" get a PC. Is it crossplay with PC? Because if so, I'll be looking for a trashcan named Septic to pwn all over that PUBG island, and I'll be doing so with EVEN MORE division based on performance. ;-)

[slate91]

Look Septic, you got spacecowboy on his alt account LOL

[SpaceRanger]

@slate91

What alternate account? I’ve always and only had this account.

[alb1899]

If it runs at 30 fps then you ask where is the Beast but if runs 60fps then you say that MS forgot about the base xboxone users.....you guys go and play your millions of excusives. Let us worry about XBOX.

[Gazondaily]

@alb

Lol exactly! So ridiculous!

Instead they should worry about the fps on their consoles

[aconnellan]

Lol so now the X having really good performance and optimisation is a bad thing?

Would you suggest that Sony should scrap the PS5 then because it’ll alienate the PS4 users?

[mark_parch]

people have constantly been talking about xbox one x and the fact it should have improved frame rates since we first heard about it and now there's the chance of that happening people are complaining. all I know is I purchased an xbox one x and I want the developers to get the most out of it as possible

[morganfell]

Why is it bad for them? Because it will be running the same as the X1X version

https://www.pcgamesn.com/pl...

Its only bad for people running around making beastly comments.

[SpaceRanger]

“Instead they should worry about the fps on their consoles.”

The hypocrisy of this generation:
Xbox Users - Resolution doesn’t matter, games matter (X1 lacks both).
PS4 Users - Both matter. It’s possible to have both.

Xbox Users - Quality of exclusives matters, not quantity.
PS4 Users - Why not both?

Xbox Users - HDR is a game changer! I’d buy Xbox again just to get it. No one else can offer it!
PS4 Users - (1 month later) All 55+ million PS4 user seems get HDR for free through update.

Xbox Users - VR is outdated. It’s all about AR. (Hololens for Xbox gets canned and VR for 1X gets canned).
PS4 Users- All 55+ million PS4s get VR support. (Becomes most successful VR platform).

Xbox Users - 4k matters, no “Chinese checkerboarding”. (Completely forget that
99% of fanbase still games at 720p-900p).
PS4 Users - Resolution has and always will matter. Vast majority of PS4 games are at 1080p-4k.

I wonder what’s next of this “beastly” console you speak of? 🤔

All I know is that I wish my Xbox One had more support.

[Enjoigamin]

Damn...just go sell your xbox if it upsets you that much ...

[SpaceRanger]

Would if my best bud had a PS4, played any other game besides RS: Siege and didn’t live so far away.

[Enjoigamin]

Sounds like a terrible friend

[Kiwi66]

You make it look one sided yet there are things said from both sides, just look back at most of this gen to see what has been said from both sides of the fence

[slavish0]

If u r happy with that post... then y r u here???🤣

[Eonjay]

I can't believed you really bought that.

[Gazondaily]

That's my line to You!

[kenna999]

Don't see you in the new battlegrounds story? What a surprise

[Gazondaily]

You actually looked out for me? ❤

[Kribwalker]

Can’t wait to give this a go

[ocelot07]

Now that would be fairly impressive if they can hit a solid stable 60FPS. Even if it's at 1080p/1440p.

[Nesflix]

It doesn't even run 60FPS on PC. Stop it.

[UKRsoldja]

..because it's poorly optimized. It's not an amazing looking game at all.

[Nesflix]

I agree with you. I don't think I said it was an amazing looking game.

[Father__Merrin]

Most people have Xbox one s so they will have to come up with something

[Enjoigamin]

Can't wait to play it on the X gonna be sick!

[mokkeyrg2]

13days left

[Sm00thNinja]

WOW definitely expected a smooth 30. How can you not be somewhat impressed if it's a stable 60

[RadicalCannibal]

Xbox synanymous with gaming yo

[Veneno]

"Synonymous with gaming"

The new " Cloud Powah"?.

[Sm00thNinja]

Something telld me you don't know what synonymous means

[Veneno]

Something "telled" you?

[Enjoigamin]

*tells* he accidently hit the "d" instead of the "s" your brain can't even comprehend that.

[Sm00thNinja]

Thank you enjoigamin

[TargusX]

Great news, offline bots next please for local play

[Redemption-64]

Definitely on Xbox One X, 60FPS. On Xbox One, we’re not sure. We may have to limit it at 30FPS, maybe, but the last time I saw it, it was running at about 30 to 40.

So does that mean the base Xbox 1 owners out there that want to play PUBG, but have no interest in buying the new X, will be at a disadvantage? This will be very bad, from my stand point, as millions of Xbox owners can being told to go out and spend an extra $500 in order to play on an even field.

[Yohshida]

4k60 is probably what he means since they already announced the game will run in 4k. The base XBOX will run the game at 60fps with lower graphic settings

[Redemption-64]

He said and i quote, On Xbox One, we’re not sure. We may have to limit it at 30FPS. He could have said they are targeting 60FPS, but rather he said they have to limit it to 30FPS. Am in no way saying you are wrong in your assumption, am just going by his own quote

[Lime123]

Yep, you'e right.

[aconnellan]

PC players who can’t afford a rig that runs it at 60fps seem to be coping just fine, so why would it be different with Xbox users?

[Redemption-64]

You seem to have left out the fact that PC gamers also have the options to change the setting of games to reach the performance they like or close to it, or the fact the console gamers don't have those options. So to ANSWER your question. OPTIONS

[Sm00thNinja]

I wonder how they'll handle the inevitable PS4 Pro edition 🤔

[Yohshida]

YAYAYAYA CUMCUMCUM cant wait to play the biggest game of this gen on the X

[Lime123]

Biggest game on Steam. On Xbox One will be just another flop like Sunset Overdrive, Forza 7, Gears of War 4,...

[Yohshida]

yaya let the hate flow through you hahahaahaha

[alb1899]

You got some mental problems dude!
You are sad, maybe you need a hug...or something

[thehitman1398]

"Xbox Is Synonymous with Gaming"

😑😑 🙂🙂 ☺☺ 😀😀 😁 😂 😂
🤣 🤣
🤣

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Runs at a billion FPS on my PC.

[Silly gameAr]

Keep that PR coming.

[aconnellan]

Announcing that a game will run at 60fps is considered PR now?

[SkippyPaccino]

"Synonymous with gaming" Wow! How fat was that check Microsoft? Exclusivity and oral pleasure for the ego. Talk about a rub & tug of a deal. I'm sure if you guys gave them a little more money they would've tooken a dump on a PS4 and shared it online... See that's why you're in trouble Microsoft... You're not willing to go the extra mile... Shame!

[chrisoadamson]

Oh yeah because fps games don't do well on Xbox. Facepalm

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

60 fps! Nice!

[ILostMyMind]

Are you sure you expect PlayStation users to buy this game later?

[quent]

Good luck with those 1%'s, you guys thought Ark was an Un optimized mess..

[timotim]

This is great news. The biggest game of 2017 and ill be playing this NEW game in Beast Mode soon enough.🎮

[ccgr]

Nice! But I'll believe it when I see it

[ASBO-5]

First off, I am sick to my ass from hearing aboot pbug all the fu***ng time
Second, Playstation & Nintendo are the ones "Synonymous with Gaming"
Get yer facts straight before submitting an article and you wont look like such a 'tard

[rainslacker]

Technically, he's not wrong about Xbox being synonymous with gaming. I'd say that it's also synonymous with dude-bro culture....but that's another thing. Nintendo and PS are synonymous too. He didn't say that they weren't also synonymous.

Personally, not really sure why he would say such a thing, but wcctech is one of those sites I don't click on because they are about as bad as gamingbolt, and have a much clearer bias than GB(yes that's possible). Xbox being synonymous with gaming won't make his game any better or worse, and I really don't see what it has to do with his game, or the decision to release it on the Xbox. Seems he's just trying to talk up Xbox here for whatever reason.

[cellfluid]

900p on the x with 60fps might be the only way this is possible. It's sure not gonna be true 4k 60fps uncompromised lololoolol

[WelkinCole]

Sony dominated 3 out of the 4 gens while MS never won one gen.

There is a reason why Playstation sells everywhere and is synonymous with gaming.

[Enjoigamin]

Good for you Sony sells more consoles go ask your mommy for a cookie.

[WelkinCole]

No need. Got cookies from your mommy last night

[Enjoigamin]

@welfin....you dug my mom up from her grave man you have some serious issues.

[WelkinCole]

@Enjoigamin: She still have holes right?

[itsmebryan]

Is it funny or sad that you had to come to an X1X story to say this? Smh

[WelkinCole]

"Xbox Is Synonymous with Gaming"

I am just here to correct it. Playstation is actually Synonymous with Gaming

[LordofYogurt]

Actually Sony won four out of four generations. The PS3 eventually also beat the 360 worldwide.

[PFFT]

Grats?

[thexmanone]

Wow that's nice

[cellfluid]

Which Gen did Microsoft win?

[thexmanone]

Yet MS is still around. Gamers are the only ones who make it a competition.
Glad you like Sony, I like MS better

[Pantz]

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[Enjoigamin]

Nice!!!

[Tedakin]

I've never understood why FPS parity is important considering on PC people play anywhere between 30 and 240 FPS and it's considered fine.

[firelens]

Bring it over to PS4!

[PFFT]

Hopefully MS locks this down and it doesnt release on the PS4.

[LP-Eleven]

Hopefully, you don't mind this stance when PS4 fans say it about stuff like Devil May Cry 5. Sony should lock that to PC and PS4 only (which sounds like it's happening, anyway)!

Only fair, right?

[TheOttomatic91]

Actually Xbox is synonymous with GaaS

[Chuska]

Can u stop with the fknnn google adsssss i can't even fkn look at the fkn website

[Captain_Tom]

LOL is it? If it is, then why is Playstation still outselling XBOX 3:1 in a year MS is launching a NEW console?!

[thexmanone]

Did MS release there numbers? Until then its just a opinion not a fact

[Captain_Tom]

Up until now it has been closer to 3.5 or 4:1. Furthermore Sony is already reported to have sold more on Black Friday.

MS isn't catching up at all. 3:1 is an accurate estimate at the moment, and don't expect that to change. I doubt MS will admit any 100% concrete numbers considering how pathetic they would look if everyone knew the truth.

[InTheZoneAC]

synonymous with gaming? that's why they've provided such a deep and robust library of exclusives.................... ............................... ..................EL........... ..............................O H.............................. ..ELLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!

[frostypants]

It should run at 60fps on a potato...it's not a very pretty game. But the devs aren't good at optimizing

[knickstr]

You do realize that Xbox is the console that has had problems being considered the media box in the past right?

[81BX]

Glad I got the beast. Enjoying it so far. Looking forward to this game

[slavish0]

Cool xbox is like pc and there are mixed resolutions and fps all the time.

[dreue]

Pugb lol,good game but not finish yet....and i play a lot on the pc...so tell me the reason to get an xbox x ? for this game alone? that i got for 29 euros on steam? and im going to be honesty i have a msi gtx 1080 , i7 and 16 ddr4 at 3200 and still the game does not run at 60 fps 4k ,i try and fps drop....

[Pierston]

This news is simply not true or either was taken out of context.

https://twitter.com/PLAYERU...

[Italiano1234567]

Was this to sell more copies cause its only running at 30fps all consoles

[Hakoom]

not true it wil run at 30fps across all xboxone platforms
https://twitter.com/PLAYERU...

[sadsatan]

Doubtful. FPS is mostly generated from CPU, XboneX basically has the same cpu as Xbone. Weak.