Super Mario Odyssey receives first review in EDGE, awarded with a perfect score

This month’s issue of EDGE was originally supposed to be with subscribers at this point. However, the magazine was delayed “to accommodate an exclusive embargo.” Subscribers will have the issue tomorrow, but we’re hearing that it’s already showing up in stores – and Super Mario Odyssey is apparently on the cover.

[Neonridr]

no surprise there.. seems like BOTW and Odyssey will be going head to head for best Switch game of 2017 and both will have strong considerations for GOTY.

[hench07]

BOTW and SMO will easily be the 2 highest scoring games of the year.

So unless an outlet has been paid off they are pretty much the only choice for GOTY.

[EatCrow]

Unless they agree then its been paid?? How so.
Really curious for your thought process as I and I know of others did not consider BOTW to be that amazing. But since we dont, according to you, we've been paid.

[Neonridr]

@EatCrow - and some people didn't like GTA V, or others The Last of Us. You can't please everyone. Horizon: Zero Dawn was a fantastic game, but there are plenty of people that didn't enjoy that game either.

Generally speaking though, BOTW has received universal praise by the bulk of the journalist and media outlets. So safe bet that the general consensus on the game is that they enjoy it. I have never seen a game get so many good reviews but it actually be a bad game. Games that receive like 6/10 can be very polarizing so it could come down to personal preference. Like The Order: 1886. I know many who enjoyed that game, even though it was reviewed not so great. But I don't think I have ever seen a game get so many 9's or 10's and be an actual bad game before. Judging by all the other games that have received those scores in the past several years as a basis of comparison.

I expect Mario to be the same, although generally speaking Mario games tend to be more accepted and appreciated by people. The true Mario games tend to invoke a real sense of fun, which is what the root cause of a video game should be.

[Eonjay]

I still think Horizon deserves a run at the title but i must say, it is getting harder and harder to resist getting a Switch

[DarXyde]

Persona 5 is a bloody masterpiece. Definitely wouldn't call those the only choices.

Of course, I'm fine with any of the three being GOTY. Obviously haven't played SMO, but Persona 5 and Breath of the Wild are phenomenal games. I have no reservations regarding Odyssey's quality.

[VenomUK]

Two 10s in just over six months? That's a pretty excellent start for the Nintendo Switch!

[Imalwaysright]

EatCrow

It's the same kind of thought process that leads people to say that this game doesn't deserve this one score or that BoTW didn't deserve the scores it got as you can already see happening below.

@ DarXyde Couldn't agree more. Haven't played this one but it would be hard for me to choose between Zelda and Persona 5 for my favorite games not only of this year but the entire generation (witcher 3 is up there as well). I'm just glad that I could experience these games.

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@ EatCrow

LMAO After reading the comments with more attention you're exactly one of them people I was talking about!

[UltraNova]

The last full 3D Mario I've played was Mario 64. Am I ashamed? Well...yeah. Do i care? Hell no. Do I have an ever increasing itch to go get a Switch and play the shit out of Odyssey? Hell yeah!!! I think I'm gonna make the jump after almost 2 decades, damn you Nintendo.

[Uken12]

Love the morons that spout "Other games did it before BotW!" Whah whah whah.

That is so dumb because Nintendo has basically created the way people play 3D games or most games. They did a lot of stuff before other games. And then when other companies release critically acclaimed games, the same Naysayers of BotW will spout how amazing it is. Mostly because they are great graphics with mediocre gameplay and hollywood style story. But no innovation in gameplay, game mechanics or the such. But never mention how these games have sourced from Ocarina of Time anyways, because most 3d games do. Or other games such as Elder Scrolls, GTA, etc.

BotW is amazing for many reasons. It isn't the first open world game. Because Zelda has been open world before. How they put the game together in every aspect of game design is why many people who have been gaming all of there life appreciate it.

I know people who haven't played a game in 10-20 years play through BotW, because the world is immersive. It's the whole package people, they delivered it well and it is amazing.

There are other great games that came out, but when you stack them up, they most likely don't hold up to be GotY.

[Corpser]

BOTW is among the best games of all time, we will see about Mario

[TheDreamCorridor]

Lol k

[dillydadally]

@TheDreamCorridor lol k? You act as if his opinion is far fetched. I can understand you personally thinking the game is overrated, but you'd have to be a pretty biased person to think that the general consensus is that BOTW is not among the best games of all time. It has a 97 on metacritic. I think your opinion is the outlier here.

[shingojacky]

@TheDreamCorridor seriously, buy a switch, you are gonna love it

[jmoose190]

@dillydadally BOTW's near-perfect metascore remains a mystery to me. As a fan of open world games and an even bigger fan of the Zelda franchise, BOTW was like a 7/10. Tedious and repetitive. It's great for 10 hours, then it's just good.

[WickedLester]

BOTW is a good game but I do think it's a tad overrated. There's absolutely nothing that BOTW does that other RPG's didn't already do a long time ago. You change the name of Zelda BOTW to something like Joe's Adventure and the scores would drop.

[jdaboss]

what is BOTW?

[Corpser]

It’s not just my opinion, many reviews say that, and the 97 metacritic score shows that too

[-Foxtrot]

If one of them is going to win GOTY I really hope it's Odyssey

[The 10th Rider]

Yeah, BOTW was great, but despite how incredible of an experience it is I still feel there was a lot of room for refinement and improvement.

The past few Mario games, however, have been nearly flawless experiences. Odyssey seems to be the perfect blend of taking inspiration from old games while refining the core gameplay and introducing new concepts. On top of that while each previous Mario game has largely had an overarching aesthetic theme, Odyssey has an overarching theme while still having each world have its own unique vibe. Whereas BOTW took Zelda in an exciting new direction, with plenty of room to explore in sequels, Odyssey truly looks like the 3D Mario series perfected. I don't really know what else you could ask for in a game.

[RommyReigns]

And Odyssey is going to smash that overrated empty open world zelda game

[Neonridr]

I don't know about overrated, but it could very well smash it.

[higgins78]

A case of can't see the forest for the tree's for you, is it? Cretin.

[RommyReigns]

@higgins78

Wow, calling me a 'cretin' because you're butthurt over a video game? Guess what, you've won (not the usual nomination handed out, but WON) the 'Most Deluded Comment on N4G - October 2017' award. Now go away and shove it up your ass you wretched scum of a lifeform.

[Prince_TFK]

@Rommy

Had you spoken with a bit more sense then no one would have called you that.

[EatCrow]

To respond to your reply.

I agree with you but it doesnt mean the outlet is paid if they dont place those. I really like and disliked BOTW and wouldnt have given it so high and therefore would put it in any list for GOTY. My big problem was the dungeons....gone are the dungeons from previous zeldas...now we get puzzles...yay.

I do see a trend of gaming sites reviewing games i dislike high and games i like lower. Many mainstream games get great reviews but then when I play them I find them to be quite average. It does appear like the reviewers all have similar tastes. In my opinion of course.

I too expect BOTW to win many awards because of what you say and it is true. But I dont think that a site who doesnt list it is paid. Not immediately anyways/

[UCForce]

It was expected but it's nice to see.

[-Foxtrot]

Pretty much

[Erik7357]

Two game of the year games under Nintendo's belt

[remixx116]

Couldn't expect less, next up is metroid and xeno

[conanlifts]

I am expecting xeno to trend in the mid 80's, though for me it is one of the reasons i was sold on the switch.

[The 10th Rider]

That home console Fire Emblem next year could knock things out of the park too. The series has been killing it on 3DS and it'll be the first time we get a Fire Emblem game on home consoles since the series' popularity exploded. On top of that we've got projects from the talented folks over at Retro Studios and Next Level Games. Sure they won't *all* be GOTY contenders in their respective years, but there's definitely a lot to look forwards to.

[Prince_TFK]

Cam't imagine what will hold for Pokemon and Smash next year. Great time to own a Switch.

[zivtheawesome]

the nintendo check got through i see /s
great job nintendo on having 2 such great games in one year! sadly i don't own a switch and really can't afford one right now (switch here costs the equivalent of 500$ and currently i can't really afford that.) but seems like a great game which i hope many will enjoy and i'll definitely watch it online (please don't take what i said about "watching it online" as fanboyism or anything i didn't mean that in a troll way).

[Neonridr]

it's ok, at least you are honest about it. Maybe one day when the prices come down or your situation changes you will be able to pick one up. It really is a great little games machine.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

No surprise it's perfection

[Nebaku]

You haven't played it yet buddy.

[EddieNX]

It looks like the best game ever made in my eyes.

From what I've seen, it looks like the best Mario game ever by a long shot and we already know how good the old Mario games were for their respective time.

Nintendo have had so much practice over the years that this game is just a culmination of all their ideas and gameplay polish and more. It's bound to be a masterpiece in the same way the next Aston Martin or Porsche will be.

[-Foxtrot]

I thought BotW was the best game ever in your eyes?

...

[EddieNX]

One of them yh. And not only my eyes but almost every single game critic in the business. Mario Odyssey will end up as yet another GOAT contender and it's not surprising at all when both these games are created by Nintendo EAD who are (unless you didn't know already) BY FAR the greatest developers of all time and still are today.

The new Zelda and new Mario are both GOAT contenders. If you're surprised by this then I don't know what to say really. Go an play all the old Zelda and Mario's maybe? Cus they're almost all Masterpieces and it really isn't surprising at all that their latest iterations are as well.

Graphics basically means nothing when you're a developer as good as Nintendo. They're in a league all of their own.

[EatCrow]

Game critics suck at videogames, at least some of them....and what degree or studies actually reflects their knowledge of what is good and bad?

Critiques have always been opinions and you will always find people to like and dislike the same thing.
What makes any of these "critics" any more qualified to a review then me or anyone else in this comment section?

My answer to that questions would be "experience" but how do we measure this experience if not by level of skill? Obviously the more games you play the more experienced you become and therefore the more capable you become at picking up on gameplay mechanics and systems. This alone proves your experience and immediately makes you more qualified then someone, that you can tell, has barely played a game in his/her life.

But even this doesnt seem satisfactory. Which is why it sticks to being about 50-75% opinion. The other 25% being extremely important however.

[Tazzy]

I'm sure you think you can do a better job they play the games and review them and let people know whats good and bad about a game. You seem like a person that is here to say something bad about the Switch because they have not 1 but 2 games that got reviewed with perfect scores maybe you're an Xbox or Sony fan that can't deal with Nintendo making great games that are no doubt going to give the holiday to Nintendo.

[EatCrow]

@Tazzy

umm. not at all.
Im gald for the switch and enjoy the switch quite a bit. Its the best co op console currently at play and like its games. It has more then 1 or 2 good games buddy.

But it doesnt make me biased towards it or any other console. Their games still deserved to be critiqued with the same level of intensity as the other 2 consoles.

No. I doubt I could do it better. I was simply stating the fact that there is no solid criteria that these reviewers follow that make them more or less knowledgable about games.
I dont have the writing skills to properly organize reviews. If i put my mind to it im sure I could. Unfortunately I already have a job that takes up most of my time.

[Imalwaysright]

You want experience?

These are devs one of them one of the most respected in this industry

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[remixx116]

Getting my switch in about a month, gonna grab botw a second time and oddysee next, my backlog is ugly right no w thanks to PlayStation and I still gotta grab nier, nioh and gtsport...

Oh well nintendo switch here I come!!!!

[SegaGamer]

It's hard to take your opinion seriously though Eddie seeing as you are a massive fanboy of Nintendo, especially when it comes to anything being released on the Switch. I agree that the game look's good though, not a masterpiece, but still fun.

[rivaldoo777]

Time to remove the dust from my switch!

[Neonridr]

witchcraft! My Switch barely ever gets put down. I was hopping from one game to the next. BOTW -> MK8 -> Arms -> Splatoon 2 -> Mario + Rabbids..

my latest guilty pleasure on this thing. Golf Story. Not gonna lie, it's a great little game.

[higgins78]

Nothing guilty about it. It's a wonderful game, while not essential certainly a highly recommended. Tried Axiom Verge? Now that truly is essential. Oh, and SD2...and all these games released only recently within a short time of one another. Now with Odyssey due in 2 weeks...

[Neonridr]

Loved the first Steamworld Dig. I bought the second one, but waiting until I finish Golf Story first.

Axiom Verge is on my list too.. lol

[spektical]

same here. i rarely use mine unless its a long road trip. I've been meh about it. Heres hoping for the future metroid and pokemon games

[rivaldoo777]

Exactly, Zelda was phenomenal but then I moved in as soon as I beat it. I own MK8 but only play it when friends come over otherwise my pro is dominating !

[zivtheawesome]

the level of creativity that nintendo devs are given is insane. it reminds me of the time when i played lego games a few years ago but this is on a whole other level...

[warriorcase]

Hell yea. I got to play the desert kingdom level over the last weekend. Was great, the section going from 3d to the old original 2d made me laugh. World felt very full and exciting. Cannot wait for more.

[Relientk77]

It does look really good

[SkippyPaccino]

Obviously! It's a mascot Nintendo game... All common sense goes out the door and reviewers fight over who can give them a perfect score.

I'm no Nintendo hater, since I own most of their consoles, but I know all to well that their games are scaled on a all other platform.... Let see how many points it's lost for facial animation, story, voice dialogue, menu setup, originality etc... All they need to know is that it's a Mario game and they need to justify their switch.

[-Foxtrot]

It happens but it does happen with other franchises, we can't just point at Nintendo.

FF13, GTV4, RE5, MGSV...good games but they were rated higher based on the franchises names first and foremost, it wasn't until the dust had settled months on and people played them more it was "Shit..maybe I went overboard with that review". It just happens to Nintendo more with in house games, especially Mario and Zelda because they are the oldest, the most respected and were part of gaming when it first blossomed all those years ago with the NES.

[SkippyPaccino]

I agree some game franchises get a pass, but we all know more work went in those games you mentioned than this Mario game...

Most Nintendo reviews sound like they're coming from a person who's entire career is weighing on perfect Nintendo game reviews... If they give the game a bad review, Nintendo might quit the gaming business and they'll have to go back to living in their parents basement....That fear is what drives them to ignore things another game would lose points on.

Still looking forward to give it a shot, but I can already tell it's nowhere close to perfect in my world.

[Neonridr]

@SkippyPaccino - considering we see one true 3D mario game per console, I would watch what you are saying about how much "work" goes into making a Mario game. Everyone complains that Nintendo milks their franchises yet usually 3, 4 even 5 years pass between true releases. It's a much different approach to the annualizing and bastardizing of franchises that we see nowadays from other studios.

Nintendo has always taken care with their products, ensuring that they will release a new game in a series when they are good and ready.

Pretty sure when it comes to things like Story, Originality, Fun, Nintendo are the leaders in that department. They don't need to rely on flashy visuals and super-duper tech. Because their games are fun regardless. Fun is the core of everything, otherwise you get games like The Order. Pretty to look at, but pretty boring too.

[The 10th Rider]

Except there's no evidence of that whatsoever. How come reviewers that generally don't even touch Legend of Zelda games, such as Angry Joe, still gave Breath of the Wild enormous praise? How come games such as Triforce Heroes, Federation Force, Star Fox Zero, Paper Mario Sticker Star, Paper Mario Color Splash, Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash, and plenty of others didn't get so hot of reviews? Does the supposed Nintendo bias only work for certain games?

You believe that reviewers have a bias towards Nintendo games, but maybe you should stop and reflect on your own view and then maybe you'd realize that you're the one with a bias. You confirm as much in another comment when you say "I can already tell [Odyssey] is nowhere close to perfect in my world."

[SkippyPaccino]

What exactly am I missing that's going to make the game perfect? All we're going to do is collect coins, jump on things, find "secret areas", try on hats and watch many many load screens in between levels....trying on a hat is no more groundbreaking than hoping in different vehicles in GTA...

The game will be fun, but there's many games that are fun that were not scored a perfect 10....all those secondary games you mentioned were also scored on a Nintendo scale... If it was a Sony game they would've all gotten 4/10...

[The 10th Rider]

And being such an avid Nintendo fan I'm sure you've played through all those games and know enough about them to know that they'd get a 4/10 on Sony systems /s

[septemberindecember]

The difference is the type of game. A game which is story driven will probably lose points for the story if it isn’t good because that is where the game puts it’s emphasis. A game like Mario puts emphasis elsewhere.

Rating a game like Mario on it’s story is like rating Call of Duty on it’s RPG mechanics.

[DwightSchrute01]

I agree, Mario puts emphasis more on challenging game play, creativity, fun and replayability rather than just story. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

[The 10th Rider]

Yeah, or The Last of Us for its platforming . . . It's really not that hard to understand. Otherwise every game would have to be the culmination of every genre.

Besides, he mentions something as asinine as "menu setup', however Nintendo games typically have excellent presentation and when a main Nintendo franchise didn't have excellent menus, such as Smash Bros for Wii U, it *was* mentioned in some reviews.

The sad thing is that even though this might be trolling, there's a lot of people out there that genuinely believe that Nintendo gets a pass with reviewers, despite no evidence for it.

[TallonIV]

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.

[higgins78]

You really haven't a clue, have you? I mean, Edge will have spent numerous hours - possibly into the hundreds - reviewing this game, but you, your making a call based on trailers and scans from magazines (at best). Open your eyes Mertesacker!

[SkippyPaccino]

You need to play over a 100 hours to get what's going on in a Mario game? Lol! What you need is a better education... You remind me of that scene from half-baked when they found their dead dog and the really stonner dude says "it's more complicated than that..." and goes on to explain some elaborate plot for something that was very obvious... Nintendo fans in a nutshell....

It's a Mario game people! Get over it. It's going to be good, doesn't mean you guys need to form a mob and kill anyone who doesn't share your opinion... Lol!

[generic-user-name]

Look no further than Twilight Princesses' 95 on metacritic for proof. The number of Nintendo fanboys and girls in the game industry is amazing.

[Prince_TFK]

Or maybe they just create good games and people become fans?

You can't make shit and expect people to become your fan.

[Imalwaysright]

Says the well known PS fanboy. You PS fanboys always do this when a game that isn't exclusive to your platform of choice isn't considered the best. You did it last year when Overwatch won GOTY and did it again when Zelda became the highest rated game of the current generation. Now the new target will be Mario.

[generic-user-name]

@Kun

Of course they have made great games, and still do, but they always get extra marks when it comes to reviews.

@Imalwaysright

So you think Twilight Princess deserves 95 on metacritic?

[Imalwaysright]

Do you think that starfox deserved a 69? Do you think that paper mario deserved a 76? Do you think that Mario Party deserved a 66? There are many Nintendo exclusives getting low to medium scores so the only thing that backups up your claim is your own bias.

As For Zelda Twilight princess, I didn't play it so I don't have any opinion on it but the user score is a 9 http://www.metacritic.com/g... Take from that what you will.

[generic-user-name]

@imalwaysright

Starfox, paper mario and mario party are not the nintendo heavy hitters. It's the 3D Marios, the Zeldas, the Mario Karts. They all vary in quality among each other, with Twilight Princess being the most obviously overrated, but the keep bringing in them 90+ reviews.

Just look at a site like Kotaku for example, if you were to actually monitor the articles and make note of them, you'd see a disproportionate amount of attention given to Nintendo IPs, nearly always favourable (They practically advertise for the Switch).

User reviews aren't worth much btw.

[Imalwaysright]

So what? They're still Nintendo exclusives and if there is something I learned in the 10 years that I've been a n4g user is that fanboys will defend a game no matter how shitty it is (No man's sky comes to mind) or a business practice like I'm seeing well known xbox fanboys such as moldybread doing with that predatory business practice called MTs just because Forza 7 has them. If the people that reviewed the games I mentioned were fanboys then for sure they would give them glowing reviews but the thing is that those same people also reviewed Zelda and will also review Mario Odyssey. I can conceive some reviewers being Nintendo fanboys but pretty much all of them like we saw with Breath of The Wild? I don't think so because that's delusional territory. I'm going to provide the same link I provided above just to show that people can honestly love the game.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Kotaku? Haven't visited that website in years and I couldn't care less what they say.

[generic-user-name]

@imalwaysright

"If the people that reviewed the games I mentioned were fanboys then for sure they would give them glowing reviews"

They can't give obviously flawed games 10s because then it's too obvious but here's the kind of thing you can watch out for, watch how Mario's 'story' will not get critiqued, 'so what?' I hear you about to say, 'it's a platformer that's more concerned with fun etc etc', except the same reviewers will dock marks off Knack 2 for it's story (I've never played Knack in case you think this is a sony fanboy view, it's just a recent example). That's the kind of thing I'm talking about here, one rule for Nintendo, another rule for everyone else. And don't get me wrong, Nintendo often do make great games, but not as good as metacritic makes out, it's unfair that a game like The Witcher 3 is on 92 while Twilight Princess is on 95.

And no, not all reviewers will be Nintendo fanboys/girls but so many in the industry were of the NES and SNES era that rose tinted glasses comes into play.

[Imalwaysright]

Yes they can because that's how fanboys are. That's what you called them isn't it? Fanboys!

"Every reviewer that happened to review BoTW is a Nintendo fanboy!" Does this statement sound reasonable to you? Is every developer in that video a Nintendo fanboy as well because they happen to truly enjoy the game?

You talk about Knack 2 to "prove" your point... you didn't even play the damn game to know what the hell you're even talking about! I didn't play Twilight Princess and you don't see me talking about it because I know nothing about it! That's common sense right? Well logic and common sense is the least you can expect from fanboys so if EVERY reviewer was a Nintendo fanboy then for sure every Nintendo game would get glowing reviews and that's not the case is it?

If you're hell bent on finding bias to explain the scores that BoTW got, go look in the mirror 1st because you know, those who live in glass houses....

[generic-user-name]

@imalwaysright

Why would I need to play knack 2 to know that it lost marks for its story? All I need to do is look at its reviews.

You keep bringing up botw when I never mentioned that game. I haven't played it so it may deserve that score, but I know twilight princess does not deserve 95 (I'm far from alone on that). So how is it 95 if not for bias and rose tinted glasses.

You talk as if there is only two types of gamers, neutrals and rabid fanboys, but life is not that simple. You can't give an obviously shit starfox game a 90+ but you can give it a 69, which I'm sure would have been lower on a Sony or MS platform.

[Imalwaysright]

Because you don't know how much emphasis Knack 2 put in its story, that's why. I wouldn't take points from the Witcher 3 because its swimming mechanics are far (really far) from being the best would I? I would however take them if I thought that its story was shit. Context! that's why you shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.

"You talk as if there is only two types of gamers"

Excuse me? Weren't you the one that right off the bat labeled every reviewer as Nintendo fanboys?

" You can't give an obviously shit starfox game a 90"

Pffftt when I see fanboys defending horseshit like no man's sky and when reviews fall under subjectivity and you can hide behind it, yes you CAN. I mean just at the start of this gen I saw xbox fanboys defending the policies that MS wanted to introduce. I saw PS fanboys defending paying for PS plus when I saw them talk shit about Xbox live throughout the last generation. I saw PS fanboys talking shit about indies last gen only to defend them this gen and I saw xbox fanboys defending indies last gen only to talk shit about them this generation. Fanboys aren't intellectually honest in any way whatsoever so them giving shit games glowing reviews would be par for the course for them.

"which I'm sure would have been lower on a Sony or MS platform."

https://media.giphy.com/med...

Another PS fanboy tactic that I'm used to seeing around here: playing the victim. When Uncharted 4 was getting countless 10/10 scores and when it won what? 100+ goty awards were they PS fanboys? Come on...

[generic-user-name]

@imalwaysright

"Because you don't know how much emphasis Knack 2 put in its story, that's why."

Sorry, that doesn't fly either. Remember when Destiny didn't put much emphasis on it's story and lost marks based on that in reviews?

"that's why you shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about."

Practice what you preach.

"Weren't you the one that right off the bat labeled every reviewer as Nintendo fanboys?"

What's that got to do with there being more than one type of gamer? You seem to think every fanboy is absolutely rabid and would give any game a 10, even if it put their credibility at stake. Like I said, they are more subtle about it, ignoring the lack of story from a mario game for example.

"When Uncharted 4 was getting countless 10/10 scores and when it won what? 100+ goty awards were they PS fanboys?"

And if Uncharted 4 was a Nintendo game it would be 97 instead of 93. What game is the most awarded game of all time? It's the Witcher 3, it is rated lower on metacritic than Twilight Princess, what game is the second most awarded of all time? It's The Last of Us, it's rated equal with TP on metacritic. TP just doesn't deserve to be up there, and that's the general consensus, it's up there on name alone.

[Imalwaysright]

Destiny? Another game I didn't play.

The hell it doesn't fly. You can't look at a game based on its individual aspects. You have to look at the whole package so even if some areas of a game are weaker, the game as whole might make up for them because those weaker areas aren't detrimental to the experience that the reviewers had with a game. That is true for PS exclusives that have many 10/10 scores like Horizon and Uncharted 4, Nintendo exclusives like Mario 3D world or Zelda or even multiplatform games such as The Witcher 3. All these games have flaws but as a package some reviewers don't have any problem in giving them 10/10. If you question this game then you have to question every single game that got at the very least ONE 10/10 score but do you do that? No because you WANT bias to be the reason as to why Zelda got the scores it got and you know what I say to that? http://weknowmemes.com/wp-c...

Yes, there is only one kind of fanboy: the useless one.

Practice what I preach? Is that supposed to make me laugh?

And does anyone doubt that Zelda will be the game with the most GOTY awards this year? Ok... maybe Mario Odyssey...

"And if Uncharted 4 was a Nintendo game it would be 97 instead of 93."

LMAO I already heard something similar in regards to Uncharted 3 that has a 92 metacritic score "if it wasn't Uncharted..." but by all means keep playing the victim while I'll be laughing at the butthurt...

"And no, not all reviewers will be Nintendo fanboys" Well you could have started with that one.

[generic-user-name]

"Destiny? Another game I didn't play."

You think that this is some kind of defense? "I didn't play it, therefore your argument is invalid".

"You can't look at a game based on its individual aspects."

Says who? You? You ever see a gametrailers review? They broke their reviews down based on gameplay, story, design and presentation. Go watch their review for Super Mario Galaxy, they score it as follows:

Story: 7.5
Design: 9.5
Gameplay: 10
Presentation: 9.8

Overall: 9.8

It's almost as if they gloss over that 7.5 so that they can give it a 9.8.

"Is that supposed to make me laugh?"

Your ironic username does it for me.

"That is true for PS exclusives that have many 10/10 scores like Horizon and Uncharted 4"

Neither of these games got as many 10s as Zelda despite you putting them on the same level, odd.

http://www.metacritic.com/b...

Have a look at the top rated games of all time, count the top 20 or 30, compare how many are Nintendo exclusives compared to any other exclusives. Weird, I don't see Horizon or U4 there either.

[Prince_TFK]

Why do reviewers feel the need to give Nintendo's "mascot" game perfect score? Do they benefit from doing like that? Are the reviewers also the devs who get profit when the game sells?

Honestly some of the people here have totally lose their mind. Wait until the game is released and this place will be blown up.

[HeisenbergX]

EDGE giving a nintendo game a perfect score .. woowwwww

[EddieNX]

Lol its only the 20th perfect score Edge has ever awarded. You make it sound like Nintendo have had tons off of them lol.

[Neonridr]

second one this year though.

[EddieNX]

Yh but not for average games. We're talking about the successor to Mario 64 and Sunshine and the biggest Zelda game ever. Both were in development for years and just happened to release in the same year.

If they were giving tens to stuff like Splatoon and Kingdom Battle (which are both amazing) then I'd understand.

BOTW and Odyssey are Nintendos absolute biggest AAA exclusives until their successors come out.

[Apex13]

I believe they have had the majority

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Get used to it

[DwightSchrute01]

Can't wait for this game.

I just bought some chips as I know the haters will be bringing lots of salt. Now where's the vinegar.

[opinionated]

I preordered it a few weeks ago. It’s the first Mario game (not including rabbids) I have bought since Mario 64.

[MegamanXXX]

Can't wait to play this and proud that I bought a Nintendo Switch! Nintendo and Sony is doing great this generation.

[kevnb]

i feel like the score for this game was already decided before anybody played it, Im still looking forward to it though :)

[SegaGamer]

That happens with a lot of games which is one reason why i can't take critics seriously. Some get praised just because of their name

Oh, and just to be clear, this isn't me saying this game isn't going to be great, just that some games will get a free pass because of their name, Mario is one of those names.

[Prince_TFK]

Why exactly do they get free pass by the press? Do the press get money and royalty if the game sells?

I hate it when people like you just make assumptions without any evidence.

[Imalwaysright]

And you played the game already? Do you have any real opinion on the game? If you didn't why are you questioning this reviewer's integrity? If you did what are you thoughts of the game and what score would you give it.

[goldwyncq]

BOTW and now this...

2017 truly is the year of Nintendo.

[generic-user-name]

Yeah, kinda blew their load in 2017. Next few years may not be as impressive for them.

[deafdani]

They have a new Metroid and a new Pokemon in the oven for Switch, though.

Who knows.

[generic-user-name]

Good point, more so with Pokemon as Metroid isn't really as mainstream, but who knows when they'll arrive.

[Prince_TFK]

They still have Pokemon, Smash, Monster Hunter, Metriod, New Mario Kart, Yoshi, Kirby, mainline Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, exclusive Tales of, exclusive SMT, and possibly Kid Icarus, Luigi Mansion, Bayonneta, the Wonderful 101, Donkey Kong, F Zero, Pikmin and new IPs that they are cooking up.

Not to mention they could always make another Zelda and Mario. So no, they havent blown even abit of their load yet.

[TheOptimist]

I am expecting another overrated game tbh....

I got Zelda, and it's definitely not worth the 97 on Metacritic that people are serving it. It's a good game, no doubt, but nothing that makes it starkly above anything good out there this gen. It has so many glaring faults, I would expect such a game to be 86-88 on Meta at best.

[Saito]

People continue to overrate simple games.

[Nebaku]

Because games are supposed to be simple. Since when do games get bonus points for being complicated?

[Prince_TFK]

If it has no guns then it is simply a super duper xtreme simple game

[Saito]

You guys are idiots. Assuming with no back facts to the person you're replying to. Comprehension is a skill not suited for this forum.

[Istolla]

Well I'm sure most people trust reviewers more than you, but it's nice to have an opinion.

[TheOptimist]

That's the problem. People trust reviewers more than they trust themselves. Having an opinion is better than being a sheep and following others.

PS- Idc if people trust my judgement or not, but they should have an opinion of their own.

[Istolla]

Oh I agree, people should form their own opinions. But I find people who dismiss reviewers opinions simply because it doesn't support their bias idiotic. It's as silly as the fake news movement.

[christocolus]

Nice. Congrats Nintendo.

[Istolla]

The last Mario game I played was Galaxy (it was also my first 3d Mario game) and it was amazing. I'm really looking forward to this.

In just one year I bought 15 switch games (I have 5 on my PS4). The Switch will be my favorite console of all time.

[LoveSpuds]

What an incredible year for video games, another fantastic title from Nintendo. To be honest, the scores have never been in doubt in my opinion, every time they show it, it Looks absolutely stellar.

[TallonIV]

Nintendo killed it this year!

[TheDreamCorridor]

“‘Member Mario? Ahh, I love to ‘member Mario!”

[Hylian10]

I'm just curious, why all the hate for Nintendo ??!! every time a game gets a 10 from Nintendo everyone jest keep saying it's a paid review or whatever! .. I'm a PS guy, and I've always been since PS1, but to say the game doesn't deserve 10/10 and you've never played, is just speaks ignorant and salty to me.

I've played BotW this year and all I can say is yes BotW is 10/10, In fact it's my game of the generation so far, please play a game before you decide. And don't just give Nintendo hate because they release fantastic games. Or maybe you don't want to accept the fact that they just keep proving you wrong.

[Gemmol]

People are haters, I'm team SwitchPS4, and they try to put me as bias, when i probably support Sony more than the people who call me out, i played on every playstation device except the Vita, and i bet the 360 owners who just switch to ps4 this gem are the ones who acting mean to other Sony owners.......just like i wrote earlier this year, i never played an adventure game for over 160 hours as an adult, and Zelda breath of the wild did it for me, i felt like a kid who played games all day again, instead of a casual gamer which i thought i become, who get bored after 30 hours or less. But all i got was down votes from Sony fans because a Nintendo device gave me those fun times

[Darkstryder360]

Just seems like they get a pass. For example the frame rate dropping in Zelda which was reported, it looked atrocious at times.

But still get a 10/10 perfect from the same outlet.

That isnt perfect though.

Different direction, I had project cars 1 on Xbox, frame rate drops on that ruined the game for me. Otherwise very good.

[Xenophon_York]

This news is going to sell half a million Switches for Nintendo. The minute a white model hits I'm there.

[Imalwaysright]

Why am I not surprised? Nintendo does it again!!!

[Tazzy]

Good for Nintendo it makes me want a Switch and I don't play games on the go but I'd play this on my tv it looks fun this game is going to sell like hotcakes this year.

[higgins78]

The salty, salty atmosphere which awarding a staple Nintendo IP a 'perfect' score around here is truly twisted.

[DivineAssault]

Cant FN wait.. 3D world was good but ive been wanting a game like this for a really long time..

[Einhander1971]

Let the perfect reviews begin:)

[OoglyBoogly]

Eh, I'd rather play it first. If games like Bioshock Infinite have taught me anything it's that people will ignore a TON TON TON of bad gameplay and story elements if, at the end of the day, the game somehow "wowed" them.

I remember with Infinite...all reviewers it seems claimed that the gunplay wasn't that great, a lot of the mechanics were one trick ponies, Skyhooks didn't really add much, Elizabeth wasn't super amazing...but MAN OH MAN that ending TEN OUT OF TEN PERFECT!

It's like...wait...you just complained about a ton of the GAMEPLAY elements about a GAME but yet we ignore them because of one part of said game?

Zelda was like this...ton to not like and ton that didn't make sense (steel swords breaking after killing two or three enemies? Come on...) but yet because Zelda...because Nintendo...because the game didn't completely suck...10 out of 10 best game of the year.

I hate to sound cynical but this is why at this point in my life if I haven't played a game I don't judge it or listen to anyone else. ME and MYSELF ONLY can be the only TRUE judge of how good I think a game is. Critics to me have lost their credibility.

[Miss_Weeboo]

Nintendo = Perfection

[Sm3000]

Can't wait for this holysh!t am I looking foward to it

[2cents]

I can't wait!!!

[majedx9]

and ..... just bought
the Nintendo Switch Super Mario Odyssey Edition + Legend of Zelda + Splatoon 2 + Nintendo Switch Pro Controller
🤞😎🤞

[TallonIV]

Awesome man enjoy!

[majedx9]

thanks i will.

[deafdani]

That's a few hundred hours of good gaming right there, just with those 3 games (I have more than 160 hours on BOTW and more than 100 on Splatoon 2 right now... and counting).

[hanko14]

a bit early to review a game that hasnt come out for another 2 weeks

[deafdani]

Yup, big gaming magazines / websites usually get their review copies a good time prior to release.

[FallenAngel1984]

I finally got to play of a demo of this game at gamestop

[RosweeSon]

This does not surprise but excites me immensely 😬😬😬 prob why it’s the only game I’ve booked the day off work for this year. Going to be epic Mario Bros 3 Super Mario World Mario 64 Sunshine? Galaxy 1 then Odyssey for me looks like the next Proper New revolutionary Mario and it seems they’ve hit gold again.

[Apex13]

I’m waiting to see the Sony and ms fanboys say something dumb. Be a gamer and not a fanboy. Can’t wait for this so I can pick my switch up again

[XStation4pio_Pro]

Dope. I kinda figured this would be case. I'm sure i'll be picking it up.

[Kyizen]

2 great games on the Switch before it fades under shovelware

[Cyro]

No surprise but I'm so hyped right now.

[Bjorn-c-blocker]

Thank god Nintendo and various indies are saving us from the totally terrible direction of western bore fest story based bad mechanics AAA games.

Hopefully sony will come to its senses before it dies with the generation of gamers that love story based content..

[Dalailana]

The first of many

[KickSpinFilter]

OK, OK just looked up Edges review of The Last of Us they gave that a 10 also.
Ok perhaps this 10 for Mario Odyssey is the real deal.
Perhaps I get the Switch for my daughter (and me ;})

[Moonman]

Mario is da man.

[BlakHavoc]

Cannot wait to play this game with my son

[GrmpyolGamer]

I never trust perfect score reviews. Nothing is perfect

[Obelisk92]

A Perfect score doesn't mean the game is perfect, it stands for really relevant and overwhelming titles.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Nintendo just is one of the most consistent companies when it comes to their games. I suspect this game is going to be in the top running for many as a game of the year contender

[talocaca]

Who exactly is surprised?

I predict a ton of 10's, a few 9's and the typical one or two 6's from someone trying to get clicks.

Metacritic over 93 guaranteed.

[g-nome]

Like Mario , but not sure about the Cappy

[Obelisk92]

Zelda was great and I'm sure Mario will be too, but EDGE is giving perfect scores away like candies lately.

[Istolla]

They're only given 20 perfect scores in their lifetime.

[Mr Marvel]

Looks like we have a 3rd contender for GOTY next to Horizon: Zero Dawn & Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

[EyeAmTJ]

another overrated Mario game, i'm not even surprised

[chris235]

sick and tired of these paid scores, really