Destiny 2 Is Already A Disappointment, So Why Even Care?

With only slight improvements being made since The Taken King - found by this publication and many others across the web - what are people expecting to get with Destiny 2?

[S-Word]

No reason to care unless you want to spend $60 on this DLC where you lose everything (and will likely lose everything again in DLC Pack "Destiny 3").

[Genuine-User]

Damn if Destiny 2 is a DLC than I would like you to name me some first person shooters that aren't. And while you're at it, could you explain in detail as to what makes Destiny 2 a downloadable expansion?

[Shin-Zantetsuken]

The author never exactly mentions what did he find disappointing with the game. There are massive changes to the game both in PvE and PvP. People just have no idea what they are talking about and just want to get on the hate-train. Any Destiny veteran can tell you that because he knows how the systems used to work and how they work now. I loved Destiny and played it for more 1,031 hours since launch. Yeah, there are websites that keep count of time spent on Destiny... Lol. And I am looking forward to D2 as well.

[Genuine-User]

@Shin-Zantetsuken

Yeah it's unfortunate that some players don't see a the leap in graphics, changes to PVP/PVE and an actual story mode this time around.

[Orpheo]

I don't think I agree with S-Word, but I can see where he's coming from for 3 reasons. First is amount of content. The first 2 D1 expansions were sparse compared to the mammoth amount of content contained in The Taken King. This means D2 would have to trump TTK's content in quantity to be considered a sequel. There may very well be enough content coming in D2 to justify calling it "Destiny 2." Second is losing everything. When The Dark Below expansion came out us vanilla D1 players didn't lose anything, BUT we did have to reset all the exotics we wanted to carry over into the expansion, which was a nightmare (in fact so much of a nightmare I quit D1 and didn't come back till about 3 months till the release of TTK. My cousin told me The House of Wolves fixed some of the exotic reset issues, so I came back.). Losing everything can feel akin to this. Third is graphics. I'll admit that in the PvE portion of the beta I can see the difference. In fact I'll say it's a little hard going back to D1 after seeing the graphical jump to D2 in PvE. But, PvP look the same to me. There's a guy I follow on YouTube named SolidRev (a comical genius imo) who does a comparison video showing crucible play between D1 & D2 and honestly the only way I could tell the difference between the two was because of the hud, the weapons being used, and the map. If you've never played Destiny and watched his video I don't think you could tell the difference between the two games, they look that similar.

I've already decided that I won't be playing "Destiny 2," though sadly I will be buying it. As a big fan of "Destiny 1," having played Destiny for 1,587 hours (PSN ID is Lord_Orpheo, you can check the site for proof), and I'll continue playing it, "Destiny 2" just comes off like a de-evolution of D1.

Bungie has changed too much for the worse. D2 isn’t similar to D1, it’s worse, IF you’re a PvE person like me. Unlike D1 there’s less flexibility in choosing your perks as they’re separated into two different skill trees. Some of the classes are also nerfed from their D1 incarnations, like the Striker Titan no longer has the ability to combine shoulder charge & transfusion. In D2, weapon selection has been limited to 2 primary slots and the heavy slot is shared with special weapons (which makes PvP require more skill but makes no sense for PvE). I also preferred the larger multiplayer 6v6 matches as it was more chaotic and don’t enjoy the smaller 4v4 matches; I would’ve liked match size to increase to 8v8, not decrease. I contacted PlayStation for a refund but was denied so now I have 2 months to wait for a $100 investment to unlock that I’ll never play. :(

[Shadowlee]

Just about every shooter not named call of duty lol.

[NapalmSanctuary]

@Genuine-User
Changes to PvP and PvE are key aspects of the disappointment. Their insistence on having one balance model for both has hurt the PvE experience due to the limited ammo for snipers and shotguns, as well as the increased cooldown times for specials. The mission structure was an improvement but thats not saying much. It went from terrible to mediocre. This is Bungie. Where is all that great mission and map design from the early Halo games. The enemies in D2 are the same differing degrees of bullet sponge. The gameplay in PvE is just stand and shoot, cover to regen health, proceed forward when enemies are cleared from the area. You'd think after the last Doom game that these guys would have learned something about making 1st person shooting vs AI fun and making levels that are more than mere corridors.

On PvP side of things, the reduction of player counts per match is a major step backwards, as is the simplification of the skill trees. If anything, they should have increased player counts and added more options to character builds. Again, this is the company behind the original Halo games. Where is all that dynamic mp gameplay. Their style over substance approach in both PvE and PvP is the epitome of modern failure in AAA game design.

To sum up, the improved graphics, changes to PvP and PvE, and inclusion of an actual story are meaningless, and in some cases, harmful, without the application of good game design.

[jasonpugh]

@ Orpheo

You won't be playing but you'll be getting it? This has to be by far one of the dumbest statements I have heard on this site. Why on earth would you buy something you won't play?

[Mr-Dude]

Will wait for the Legendary Edition with all DLC next year for €39,99

They did it with Destiny 1, they will do this again. Sure, I will be late into the game but that's okay.

[morganfell]

Can someone explain to me why some idiot people, I do not call them gamers, thought they could just import their Destiny character and keep on leveling up from that point?

And like Shin, Genuine-User, and several others I do agree. Some people just seemed determined to ride that old hate train straight into game deprivation. Well I say good, not the sort of people I want to find myself in a PvE with anyway. See how that works? No, those same dullards likely do not.

[The_KELRaTH]

It's still early days as we don't know just how much content there is but I suspect it's being referred to as an expansion due to using some assets and enemies from D1. To date there are more differences to Destiny year 1 and the Taken King expansion which made huge changes to the game.
As for Crucible it's just less players and smaller maps to accommodate less players, some will prefer it while some won't so maybe it would have been a better move to offer player count choice with scalable maps. Personally I would have preferred 16 v 16 / 32 v 32 / 4 team etc larger scale map games using the Patrol areas (5 - 7 flag CTF etc etc)

[TejasTV]

It's been proven to be dlc made game already. It's ok though you like wasting your money like the other privileged people

[Scatpants]

If it's playing the same 5 levels 20 million times like the first one just to get loot to play the same level again with it still sucks.

[Orpheo]

@jasonpugh

The answer to your question of why I am buying something without playing it is mentioned near the bottom of my original post, but I'll explain fully.

As I'm a huge Destiny fan (addict) I pre-ordered the $100 "Destiny 2" digital deluxe edition based off the hype, my enjoyment from D1, and the flashy visuals of D2, from the PlayStation Store. After my pre-order was placed I started reading about the things I complain about in the last paragraph of my previous post, then I had my time with the beta. After reading more about D2 & playing the beta I knew that D2 wasn't for me, so I contacted PlayStation online (I saved the chatlog) asking for a refund. The first person told me "no," so I asked to speak with their supervisor who also told me, "no." So PlayStation is keeping my $100 even though I don't want "Destiny 2" and there's nothing I can do about it.

[EatCrow]

You're forgetting all the different chapters of this dlc which will easily end up costing over another 60$

[Genuine-User]

*Expansions

[EatCrow]

@Genuine

Well then you and I have a very different idea on what an expansion is. I pre ordered Destiny 1 to get these "expansions" and they were all tiny pieces of content. Therefore dlc. I am aware that some of that dlc was bigger and obviously once you add it all together you get a hefty amount.

[Krysis]

And I'll buy them because I put hundreds of hours int each expansion released in destiny

[Genuine-User]

Honest question, what kind of expansions were you expecting?

[EatCrow]

@genuine

Morrowind and almost any elder scrolls expansions. Starcraft expansions. Even mmo expansions tend to give much more. The Witcher expansions.

I was expecting more then a couple of strikes.

@krysis

Not debating whether you should buy or not. Anybody can play whatever they want for however long they want.

[freshslicepizza]

Why is this DLC but games like GT 6 or Forza 4 aren't? This is a whole new game, talk about entitlement.

[FPS_D3TH]

Entitlement is the new black my dude

[bluefox755]

So many people don't seems to understand what DLC is. DLC expands upon the original game, Destiny 2 "replaces" the original game.

[TekoIie]

"Destiny 2 "replaces" the original game."

I think that also might be one of the problems.

[jasonpugh]

Bluefox755,

Don't speak logic here. N4G is where logic goes to die.

[boomtube1987]

Yeh CoD model is best. Every year a new CoD, a new setting, new story, new maps and more game mode than any game. CoD really is filled with tons of content.

[Bimkoblerutso]

I think perhaps you're taking the statement too literally. The point is that the game (like the first game) is going to release as barebones as possible to be able to accommodate the raping they will give us all later with their crappy DLC packs...which funny enough will also be as barebones as possible to ensure that it is a long, painful, lucrative raping for Activision.

[S2Killinit]

I donno im loving it

[_-EDMIX-_]

I mean my assumption is if you're spending money on DLC you actually care about the game in the first place....

[seanpitt23]

Destiny 2 is just destiny 1 with added more story mode), planets, bosses, loot etc... And that's it.

If you liked the first one and wanted more then this is the game for you.

If you didn't like the first one and expect this to be a different kind of game then you will be disappointed and therefore don't buy it.

[Elda]

I had fun with it definite buy for me.

[Genuine-User]

Same. Beta sold me on the game.

[SonyWarrior]

i was interested but beta turned me away

[Genuine-User]

Well at least it's good that you got to try it out before putting before your money down.

[Summons75]

The beta was light on content (for me, wish they had at least 1 more strike) but that doesn't mean I didn't have fun with the gameplay. Some people hate just to hate when they didn't play the beta or the first game, probably shouldn't write articles about it then.

[Asuka]

I liked the first game. Had a good time raiding with friends and met some new people. Everyone has their own opinion, but i cannot wait for the game and to run the new raid.

[Uken12]

That's the best part, the raids. They are a lot of fun.

[krontaar]

too many better games coming out this year to even care

[Ninver]

I agree. Ucharted, cod and gran turismo is all i need for the remainder of the year. Maybe ni no kuni

[Sm00thNinja]

No no kuni was delayed wasn't it?

[Krysis]

Oh cod the ultimate yearly 60 dollar dlc

[Genuine-User]

It's not a game for everyone.

[Jakens]

Not for everyone, which is as it should be.

[Knushwood Butt]

Pretty much sums it up.

I guess if you lapped up the paywalls in the first game then you'll be up for more of the same. Personally, I had fun but moved on.

Still playing other games for longer than Destiny and hasn't cost me a penny to do so.

[GrimDragon]

Why even care about articles like this? That's a better question. The game will sell very well, and be played by many regardless of any disappointment.

[zackeroniii]

what's your point every major fps shooter franchise is literally the same shit every year with a reskin. call of duty and battlefield to name the biggest two franchises whether some of you want to admit it or not. call of duty gets shit for it when battlefield does the same too but everyone still buys it. i don't see why people are behaving so different. what do you guys want destiny 2 to do differently then since you guys are crying so much about it?

[Gh05t]

Maybe actually achieve the marketing hype of what Destiny 1 was supposed to be. That would make me happy.

[FITgamer]

I'm going to hold off on it, just like the first one and wait for the "complete" edition.

[xsta1ker]

i can't believe after all this time nether comapny sony or Microsoft have not convinced
blizzard to release the best mmo ever created to launch on console.
both can now support keyboard & mouse and would be a fantastic cross platform game
just think about a bunch of guildies made up of ps4 and xbox players working
together clearing dungeons and hanging out in shooting the s... in pvp arenas
epic times this would be.

Ps this is a huge market for blizzard to tap into world of Warcraft is a must have sony Microsoft blizzard need to
get this done🤝

[FITgamer]

TBH honest I don't think WoW would be any where near as popular on console as it is on PC. Especially considering it's subscription based model.

[EatCrow]

The game hasn't released therefore the game cannot possibly be a disappointment unless you have no brain.

[Genuine-User]

Author is disappointed because the beta didn't live to what they had expected. I disagree but whatever.

[EatCrow]

Author is disappointed with the beta? Therefore the whole game is disappointing? Makes no sense to me and Im no fan of destiny.

[Genuine-User]

Some people have a short attention span.

[TheGamez100]

Just finished the beta....whys it more inferior to the first games beta? Heck even the alpha. Felt too much like a demo. Other than that, the game was meh. Story is much more interesting this time around but everything else is pretty much the same. Kinda on the fence on getting the game tbh and if I do, itll just be because my friends are playing it.

[Eiyuuou]

Well, I don't.

[Hueynewton2012]

Played D1 for three years, however, this beta is terrible and has not convinced me to dedicated another three years of purchased DLC and time. I will wait for Bioware's game and maybe get an Xbox X for battlegrounds. Poor effort on the beta, boring, no leveling or item drops and open world exploration like in D1's beta.

[Shin-Zantetsuken]

It is beta. What did you expect?? They are just testing out the game and servers. They already announced that it does not represent the actual game and does not features all the systems such as progression, leveling, loot drops, patrols, quests, farm, vendors, etc. etc.

[Gh05t]

Fair, but it is also the majority of people's first hands on with the game, and therefore a first impression. You only get one shot to make a first impression.

[U R 2 E Z]

Are they really going to change that much in a little over a month? Game releases early September (9th)...there may be a few changes, but seriously not that many. Unlike other betas I have played, almost a year in advance, where they took complaints on graphics and could change them, Destiny is kind of stuck, and they are just testing server capabilities now.

[Shin-Zantetsuken]

@UR2EZ

Yes, they are going to change the game that much because this is a very old build. Several core systems are offline. Bungie has also announced how the latest build is significantly different from this one in terms of gameplay, ammo economy, character progression. Our characters wont be Lvl. 20 from the start, all abilities wont be unlocked from the beginning, we wont get exotics lying on a rack, there will be several more exotics, we wont have the new classes from the beginning, we will have access to farm social space, we will have access to vendors, there will be loot drops, there will be lost sector dungeons, there will be sidequests, there will be four worlds to explore and not just one Nessus, there will be raid, there will be more PvP modes, there will be more strikes. There will be huge differences in the final game compared to the beta.

Graphics wont change but the full game will feature all the systems and will be very different from this beta. The beta is not a demo, it is only for testing servers and online systems such as PvP match balance, PvE ammo economy, match-making, and weapon balance. Oh and the game will be releasing on September 5, not September 9.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

The reason they didn't do the same with this beta as they did with destiny 1 is because trolls,fanboys and haters come out of the woodwork once the full game released and cried there was no content and that we played almost a quarter of the game already in the beta etc etc so I don't blame activision or bungie for doing it this way

[COZMIC]

If you liked destiny 1 you will like destiny 2. If you didn't like destiny 1 you won't like destiny 2. Pretty simple really, it's a sequel to a game you can make an argument for a majority of sequels that they can be expansions. I personally am looking forward to destiny 2. But to each their own. And regardless of what people want to say on the internet and how many articles like this will get attention chances are this game will break sales records.

[Gh05t]

I agree, I just don't get how people don't understand that Destiny 1 released flawed, in big ways (if you don't think it did then great but the developers changed a bunch so what does that tell you). I think most people were hoping that Destiny 2 was another chance to do some major improvements and what we were shown doesn't feel like those major improvements were made and I am not talking about story.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Dude pvp is totally different and imo better then the abilities and shotgun spam bullshit of destiny 1. The strike while structurally similar to what was in destiny 1 still saw improvements and now play like mini raids and the opening story mission showed major strides in that department. We still haven't seen the dungeons,the new patrols,the new sidequest system along with tons of other things so how was there no improvements

[Tedakin]

I really hate the first one outside of the main campaign. It got a super bad reception. Not sure why everyone's all hyped for this one after the last one.

[Weeblordbad]

Because D1 improved a lot from vanilla base game?

[Gh05t]

And they showed no improvement over that with this beta... All they are talking about is clans and story, that's really not where Destiny faulted.

[BlakHavoc]

Super bad reception? It broke sales records lol

[maybelovehate]

lol, I know right.. Some people live in their own little world. Not only did it break sales records but was all anyone talked about for about 2 years haha. Still one of the most streamed games.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Really?? hmmm, I will def hold out for reviews (PC version) before I even think about buying it. It's what I do whenever I buy a game, reviews first then buy it if it's good.

[Kinger8938]

"the sequel feels like the same game The Taken King, the original's last expansion, morphed the franchise to be"

Pretty sure another expansion came after that one?

[Profchaos]

The beta wasn't the best first look and feel of the game since it was only a 20 minute level preview.

[FPS_D3TH]

Lmao so if it's dlc let's name some other first person shooter series that aren't just dlcs as well...

[Gh05t]

Cod Modern warfare was a huge leap. And let's not pretend people don't say the same thing about Battlefield, COD, Halo, etc... Why should this get a break if the other games don't?

[BlakHavoc]

I think CoD is the franchise that often gets referred to as the same game with a fancy new paint job every year.

[_LarZen_]

I wouldn't be surprised if Destiny 2 breaks the record of most and fastest selling game on PSN when it launches. Just as Destiny did when it came. These negative spin articles are like a broken record. Destiny was a huge success regardless of what the naysayers try to convince others with.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

Played some of the beta, Destiny 2 is not my type of shooter. I the game's style of PvP, simply isn't for me.

[UltraAtomic]

I walked in the beta with low expectations, and I still walked out feeling disappointed. It's the same thing. All of these changes could have been added to the original game as dlc. but they decided to make a sequel instead. Destiny 2 in all honesty doesn't feel like a sequel. That's a fact! I mean look at eso. Alot of people don't like the game, but it's changed alot though the years and they never had to make a sequel. They added dual-ing with other players, text chat, dungeon finder, ect. Look at battlefront 2 looks completely different from the first. Now that my friends is a sequel not this. I am sorry but it just looks like a money grab to me.

[_LarZen_]

Battlefront 2 looks exactly like the first game. But it has some new features. And it's just to early to say what new features Destiny 2 has based on this very limited beta.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Battlefront 2 does not look totally different from the first lol gtho. The only thing different is they actually included a campaign this time

[maybelovehate]

New engine. Dropped support for Xbox 360 and PS3. And it does look nice! Gameplay is different too, a lot of modifications to the way things act. It feels like a new version of Destiny, which is what it is.

[narsaku]

I was never really impressed with the fibs they told with Destiny 1... That whole, "See that place over there?... You can GO there!"...

~One Invisible wall later...............

I'm suspicious about this game, I may just wait for Anthem, but tbh I'm a little worred about that game too. When they talked about, "taking risks", when it's just Bioware's copy of Destiny... Idk...

[GuruStarr78]

I haven't even be able to play since it since it launched early Tuesday.

IT'S TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE on my PS4 PRO.

It literally crashes EVERY time I get 1/3 of the way through the story mode, so I can't finish it to see the rest of the beta.

I'm seriously cancelling my preorder at this point.

[DOOMZ]

I love it, its a blast!!! Day one purchase!!!

[Felsager]

I'll wait a long time to see how the game develops. It is wiser to see all the DLC and wait for the full edition and the reviews.

[Hueynewton2012]

Just ditch D2 and make new DLC for D1, 4v4 MP is just plain stupid and boring.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Why is it boring because you can't spam abilities and shotgun like a noob. The mp is more tactical now and actually relies on gun skill like it always should have instead of sniper shotguns and grenade spam

[leemo19]

You know its click-bait,when the title is in a form of question. You played a beta not the full game, so how can d2 be disappointing if its not even out yet. Now if you want to talk about why you we're disappointed about the beta, than sure, there's a discussion there, but to judge solely base off a tiny beta, like its the full game makes no sense.
I enjoy the beta, was there things that need addressing of course, its why you play a beta, to test things out to give info back to dev so they can see for themselves.

[OffRoadKing]

The full game is already a "disappointment" based off a very limited beta? Ah ok.

[bluefox755]

Destiny 2 will absolutely share one factor with the original Destiny. It will receive tons of hate, while simultaneously being hugely successful. I don't really have a horse in this race, but if people feel like it's worth their money, and willingly choose to spend their money because they believe they will put dozens or hundreds of hours into their purchase, then who cares? People that hate Destiny sure do like to talk about it. Just play what you wanna play, and let everyone else do the same.

[Manubiggs]

I had more fun in the loot cave than the beta. Mark my words, at some point in time they will sell you the cosmodrome as dlc.

[Bismarn]

I don't know keengamer, you're the one who wrote an article about it. I certainly don't care.

[cyx]

Its ridiculous people still blindy defend this franchise and all its decisions / mistakes . like most people i wont be getting this for myself ill be getting it if anything for the friends on my list that absolutely love this game . im not expecting to be blown away the most fun im gonna have is playing with a fireteam. Everything else in this game is just filler lol even some of the gear in d2 is the same as d1 lol like wtf?

[jasonpugh]

Your article is a disappointment so why even care.

[loadstone007]

Honestly, I regret preordering (PSN) the game. Seems to me like the first Destiny.

Also preordered COD, and while I did that for the campaign, the ridiculous nazi zombie mode made me regret it. COD should take their game more serious and learn from the first few games. Adding a zombie mode is a real disgrace. Battlefield 1 is the best shooter I played and they are doing a far better job than COD.

[cd1]

Now there's a headline just for clicks!

Nah - you don't get one from me kid.

[madpuppy]

What a sad sack opinion piece, who wrote this, Eyore?
https://youtu.be/CQI0E1WCLM...

[BenRC01]

Piss off and play play something else then. MILLIONS of us will play and love this game. Its brilliant already.

[TheUberAsian]

Do I really have the start the beta over again after exiting the first couple missions? I got to the part after Ikora does her magic stuff to the aircraft. Is there no save points?

[GordyNYC]

Im loving the Beta with its more expansive environments and more granular combat.

[Bobafret]

The dead, static environments are still present. I really try to like Destiny but I just can't get into it. Bungie just aren't the premiere developers everyone makes them out to be.

[BlakHavoc]

Destiny is one of my favorite games this gen so far, but the sequel so far does feel a lot like a large expansion. Its odd tho cause idk if I have a major problem with that, I loved the first game and just wanted more content and they claimed to have done that. We'll see when the game comes out but I was slightly disappointed with the beta, felt way too similar to a game I've already been playing since 2015. Doesn't feel fresh and like a new experience...

[IceKoldKilla]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I respect someone's opinion of not liking something but hating something? I mean you have people who follow Bungie on Twitter and are the first to reply with hate. That's dedication. More so than many fans have.

I personally am super excited for this game and the beta proved to me that so far it seems they got the right idea for Crucible. I can't wait to play it! I spent over 1710 hours on Destiny in my life. That alone has to be enough for me to say it's my best "bang for my buck" game EVER.
So if these claims are true about it being "DLC" then let's go! I'll get more entertainment out of those $50 (Getting the White PS4 Pro bundle) than any other DLC or even game has ever gave me.

[MasterD919]

Sony's exclusive content is one reason that I can't force my self into supporting this game. I get it's all about sales, but Bungie used to be all about the fans. Once again, content is being withheld for those who own the same game on a different console. All of the MS exclusives were at least reasonably timed (not over a year or so), and primarily were based around COD DLC packs...There's a difference here as this game has much more of a social aspect to it.

[madpuppy]

Yeah!! How dare they copy Microsoft and do that!

[T2X]

I can't really put my finger on it but, somehow it feels a lot better than the last one. Story more cohesive, graphics colors pop a bit more. As smooth as the last one and a bit more. I'm buying it.

[opinionated]

The beta was alright. I never really got into destiny but I preordered anyways. It's one of the few games that all my buddies play and that makes it worth it to me despite my indifference towards the actual game.

[greywolf39]

This game since first trailer and platform announc. is disappointement

[BadElf]

Disappointing? Felt ok to me. The beta mission was at least somewhat interesting...compared to ALL OF the first game.
And the arena multiplayer is where it's at anyway...

[SarcasticDuck]

Destiny 2 is already a disappointment, so why even care about an article about it?

[Mikey94]

I clocked 1800 hrs into Destiny 1 and can say I hate everything about Destiny 2 so far and I can easily tell the reasons why.

1: the one strike they gave us is super bland and boring and very uncreative. And judging by destiny 1 I highly doubt many of the others strikes will be much different.

2: they went right back to the bullet sponge crap and now its even worse.

3: slowed down the gameplay significantly, and the jumping abilities on the characters are super clunky actually everything about the game feels clunky shooting, movements, etc...

4: takes way to long for you to earn your super. The one thing you need to kill all these bullets sponges and it takes like 10 min to earn.

5: Their mechanics simply don't work with their weapon system. Just like in Destiny 1 the only real way to dish damage against enemies was by using special weapons like sniper shotgun etc.. now in Destiny 2 with those now being power weapons it totally breaks the game cause now the only way to dish damage is with your super and it takes like 10 min to earn it. They need to change mechanics to make primary weapon gameplay the main focus. But just like in Destiny 1 you feel you need a power weapon to do anything in this game.

6: they still have the horrible light leveling system. This is easily the worst leveling system I seen in a game its frustrating and only a system developed to cause you to grind countless hours. Cause you can be light 299 have everything 300 but nope your ghost is 299 and holding you back so now you need to grind stuff for endless hours relying on rng to get you the one piece of loot you need to level up. Its a garbage system

7: You die way to fast in this game to. Literally with high resilience I still find myself in critical just after taking like 3 shots. So it takes a mag for us to kill the enemy but they can basically kill us in like 4. Yup sounds pretty familiar (division)

8: even with them maxing out your level you still feel underpowered so I see that still hasn't changed either. Im willing to bet to in the real game just like destiny 1 i can be level 20 light 300 and get 3 shotted by a level 2 dreg. Power in this game is non existent and you never feel like you get more powerful as you progress.

[rocketpanda]

People just want to genuinely hate on unreleased popular things. I am not sure what people were expecting from the beta. The introduction to D2's story already leaps ahead vanilla D1, and gun play remains solid with the slight annoyance how weapons slots works, probably to balance out POV. Visually it looks better than the first.

Yeah, it's more of the same. It's Destiny. What were you expecting!

[MadLad]

We understand. Your middling, dime-a-dozen game "journalism" site needs clicks, so you dramatize everything. Such integrity.

[Shotcalm]

i didn't like the new bad guy. Crota and oryx was much better.

[Armyntt]

I find it disappointing there is even a destiny 2. Destiny 1 was supposed to a 10 year game and had so many issues I understand why they made a second. But like most things in life now everything is either the greatest ever or not worth doing or making at all.

[Nybz]

This just in!

People like what they like!

Back to you Barbara.

[Father__Merrin]

Destiny 2 isnt DLC its a follow up full game. Those that say it feels like first game LOL of course it does as its the same franchise just like gears of war 2 > gears of war 3 etc etc etc. What did people expect mushrooms & koopa troopers?

Destiny 2 will suffice as a AAA game, i predict millions will be playing and enjoying lots of coop play with thier friends

[Rude-ro]

You know... in the what's hot section... there is an article about a game that looks worse than most games this gen and is literally the exact same as when the original released last gen... crackdown 3..
But please, continue to bash one game that so happens to have bad blood against Microsoft. Their media shills have no clue how to not look obvious.

[opinionated]

Lol! The irony tho..

[qu1ckset]

I played the beta sat night on my PS4 Pro on my 4K tv and would get about halfway threw the first mission and the game would crash , did this 3 times so I just deleted it and said screw it!

From what I played seemed more the same but better graphics (tho I was playing on 4k compared to only playing on 1080p on D1). The crashing really turned me off enjoying the game and will defiantly skip destiny 2 wasn't enough from what I played to draw me back in!

[Ra3v3r]

I wasn't impressed with the beta but I can see why people will enjoy it. To me, the movement felt sluggish but the shooting was as solid as ever. Bonus is I don't have to worry about buying it cos me n my mate console share and he's already bought it, so I have a copy waiting for me when it's released.

[andrewsquall]

I don't. That's why I won't be touching it like most online oriented games this gen and that goes for GT Sport too.

[Felsager]

The three classes works well, the enemies are greatly improved in detail and AI. The bosses and the runs are very interesting. However, the maps must be larger and allow more exploration without these boundary barriers.

The cooling on the grenades is way too much. The cooling of the super is exaggerated making the super incidental and useless. It takes out all the fun on these powers. The movement of the characters are way too slow and there are no parkour for more maneuver.

We constantly run out of ammo and munition on these weapons. The heavy weapons are no fun at all. The scarcity of the heavy ammo affects the use of those great tools. In PVE that fun is completely hampered. Please adjust better clip sizes for the weapons and availability.

We enjoyed playing with weapons of fallen enemies, why can't we have that in here? Those could be limited in munition like the weapons used in Horizon Zero Down.

The weapons feels right but Bungie is way too dictatorial imposing their mindset on how we should use them. Their weapon design and the rhythm of shooting is perfectly executed. PVP must be a small part of the game while PVE must be the grand actor. In PVE evade the use and abuse of the "noob tube", the "heavy noob spammer", the " camping paradise of the sniper" and the "grenade spammer"

In the twenty first century we want dedicated servers where "WE CHOOSE THE MAP, WE CHOOSE OUR FRIENDS AND WE CHOOSE OUR PARAMETERS OF GAMEPLAY". Overwatch allows us to design, choose and modify our characters. Bungie must loosen a bit and allow us to have more control over the type of fun we want.

PVE and PVP must be separate. If the same conditions are imposed on both, one of them will suffer. Bungie must provide a more cooperative experience and a rewarding RNG system instead of being so punitive with the drop rate like they did with the Gallarhorn.

Take the good attributes of Warframe as reference and provide a good circulation of items instead of spamming the players with useless weapons and items. Make accessible all the Items in PVE.

Provide the next stage on the weapons adding modifications to them, alternate fire and "super" on weapons. Some weapons requires cooling for using their special abilities, however those features will only apply on PVE.

Bungie promise us that you can fix these simple things.

[Scatpants]

I certainly don't care. If it's more of the first it's a hard pass from me. Maybe I'll try it when it's $20.