Final Fantasy XV Patch 1.03 Reportedly Adds Roads For Open World Exploration In Niflheim

Is this a hint for what's to come?

[PhoenixUp]

Such an unconventional state of affairs. The game is still being completed while it's out

[moegooner88]

So never buy a SE game on launch?

[Bahamut]

It's not that bad. It just could've been better.

[moegooner88]

Yes it is pretty bad. Second part is all over the place, and game is obviously unfinished, but hey judging by the disagrees, why should SE care, when people are actually willing to pay full price knowing the game is incomplete. Maybe next time, they can release the first chapter, and patch the game over the upcoming 6 years.

[Bahamut]

@moegooner88

You sound so whiny. Nobody forced you to buy the game.

[moegooner88]

You sound like you have more money than common sense. Aka SquareE target audience.

[Bahamut]

@moegooner88

If you think $60 is a lot of money, you need to rethink your life. Go to college, get a better job, etc.

[rezzah]

I think we will be seeing a "Driveclub" situation where future patches bring in additions that basically perfect the game.

Except this time it will happen to a game with a story.

[-Foxtrot]

The best thing they can do now is quickly finish this off and focus on FFXVI

I want that game to be finished on release. I just can't believe people giving FFXV the benefit of the doubt, sure it's better then FF13 but still...it's unfinished and you can see this within the story after Chapter 8

[Irishguy95]

Its not giving it the benefit of the doubt, whatever FFXV's incompleteness was, it was still good. I totally agree its unfinished. Its annoying! Its upsetting due to what the game could have been. That doesn't make it a bad game.

"Flawed gem" - Remember that term?

[-Foxtrot]

Dosen't make it a bad game but why suddenly give the benefit of the doubt

If it was EA, Ubisoft or whatever people would gladly call them out.

Imagine if you had the Last of Us and they slowly changed things or added the rest of the game in updates...it would be pretty shitty.

[Irishguy95]

I get it Foxtrot, its annoying things that would have been NICE TO HAVE didn't make FFXV release. But, they could have added a cutscene to explain each of these missing things...and then forget about it. Instead they are making them playable.

I'd say the last of us is a perfect example of content that would have been nice to have but didn't make it. The AI? Anyone? The last of us turned out amazing anyway. So who cares?

3 choices:
Delay the game
Add minor cutscenes to explain things that are not important to main plot but would improve the quality of the game(ie: 3 side chars and villains)
Modify the game and purposely leave things out, then add the DLC for free later.

I would prefer a delay myself. However I am happy we didn't get a cutscene and just leave it at that. Instead we will get 3 DLCs with the guys playable and eventually multiplayer, more story content from things outside of Noctis perspective.(As this is what normally happens in FF)

Again I agree its **** they way the game is obviously missing content. But its not as bad as you're making it out to be imo, due to the fact that they modified the story due to the fact that the content wouldn't make the final cut. The quality of the game is what is affected, more so than value for money, or understanding what is going on. <- that is the sad thing. The game coulda been great and hopefully it will be great one day.

[Elda]

At least FF-XIII had a story & a long one.

[joethetimelord]

I'd take a good unfinished story to a long bad one any day. The Silmarillion, an unfinished Tolkien work, was still miles better than Hubbard's very finished Mission Earth series, for example.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

If it's one thing I have to hand to the FF-XIII-verse, it generally improved in all aspects by the time we got all three games. Lightning Returns was a big improvement over the first game. Maybe they should have shorten and simplified the story in FFXV (there are so many confusing things happening with the characters because it's just thrown out there with no foreshadowing or it happens off screen).

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

True, it's obviously lacking so much story content, but I just want a new Final Fantasy game now (god, please don't do any sequels or spin off of XV).

[Godmars290]

Given that 13 and 15 where effectively unfinished works, that the original version of 14 was what it was, what makes you think square is going to stop releasing incomplete games trying to patch them later from now on? Any AAA main console titles anyway.

[_-EDMIX-_]

But the issue becomes like I'm stressed for a very long time , exactly what is "finished?" You're never really going to actually fully know this because any game can be updated with content at any time post launch.

So basically delay playing any game for a specific number of years?

So if they have extra content Never released it so you feel you got something finished? How does that benefit the consumer if there's more ideas to be given to the game? So delay the game to Oblivion? What if ideas continue to be given to the game?

Software is not absolute, it is dynamic and ever-changing.

[kaizokuspy]

I agree @ foxtrot, glad to see there are those who aren't blind to the huge issues with a $60 FF game.

[Ashunderfire86]

Still waiting on that 60fps patch they promise.

[ORyanDeee]

yeah they said it would be coming december 2016 but nope

[DethWish]

Yes yes yes very nice!!!

[ABeastNamedTariq]

How annoying. This game started off so strong, thought it was going to possibly be my GOTY and quickly spiraled into a pile of poo. Bloodborne takes the cake for me! (I know it came out in 2015 but I got it a few months ago, fell in love with it. First Souls game, not my last.)

[Goldby]

make sure you do the old hunters dlc before starting ng+

[ABeastNamedTariq]

Thanks for the suggestion I was actually figuring out when I should do it. I won't be starting NG+ any time soon lol

[fenome]

I just got my first and only platinum trophy for Bloodborne earlier today! My favorite game so far this gen. I'm not a trophy hunter, I never really cared about them, but there's just something about that game. I wanted to experience all of it.

[Pantz]

They better not fix the Aranea glitch

[rezzah]

It is a popular glitch, key word being glitch. Chances are it will be fixed, unless the devs enjoy it too and let it slide (I doubt this will happen).

[joethetimelord]

Japan tends to allow for glitches that people like; Nintendo's even been on record saying this. Why waste manpower, time, and money fixing something that doesn't warrant fixing?

Even Bethesda kept the Giant Space Program glitch.

[joab777]

I would rather they add cutscenes and customization first and then add dlc later, like b/w April and August.

[Elda]

I just finished FFXV with 90 hrs in,if it wasn't for the hunts & sidequests the main game was probably no more than 20 to 25 hrs if that.I've been playing the FF games since the SNES days imo FFXV doesn't have a in-depth story to tell & what story it did tell didn't make much sense.As much hate as FF-XIII has gotten beside it being linear along with other things it told a story & a long one though that story didn't make much sense but I got the jist of what they were trying to convey including it's one of my favorite games.I really enjoyed FFXV since I'm on a 4 week vac 2 weeks in,I really got into the game & it's definitely different from it's past iterations but enjoyable far as gameplay but definitely lacking in story.I've done so much in the game & there's more to do but I'm only level 68 & I have to level up to 75 or higher to do other quest hunts which will take some grinding,I'll get back to it when they start releasing more story dlc.

[alstruck]

My wishlist for xv updates:

Aranea sidequests. Make her a guest party for 20 hours and has a story arc. She is awesome.
Better explanation in role of Oracle, about Starscourge, and about the Prophecy. Proper little noctis story arc when he was sick, taken to the oracle in Tenebrae, and be close to Luna (it was missing from the game, but often told in Brotherhood and Kingsglave).
And maybe deeper skill tree or Ravus story arc.

[quent]

???

[CyrusLemont]

I think as unconventional as it is, releasing additional features and "completing" FFXV is what they should do. I'm about 40 hours through, and it's fantastic but it definitely feels like there's a lot cut out. But the potentials there, and rather than drop it and move on, I think they should continue to focus on it.

I imagine the developers have a huge content board with what they made the "day one" cut and what they had to remove for now until they could complete and release it in post. I think it's very possible that most of the stuff they cut is quite close to completion /rough around the edges and just needs some refinement before release.

I've seen quite a few interesting videos like "Noctis' ability to swim mechanic" or "Niflheim Exploration" which I hope aren't red herrings but signs of additional content to come and flesh out the game.

When you play the game you can sort of feel this openness and free spirited vibe of EOS and it seems like they were definitely going to have a huge contrast with a NAZI enforced continent of Niflheim when you went there. It's a shame that hasn't made it into the game (yet I hope).

My Wishlist for post content;

-Niflheim exploration and liberation quests integrated into the late chapters with side quests for desert monsters.

-Regalia Type-F travel between continents

-Insomnia exploration, more stores and quests.

-In depth clothing customisation and weapons.

-More story for all the characters (We've got DLC for Ignis, Prompto and Glad coming but what about Aranea, Cor, Cid?

-More general group dialogue (This is painfully missing)

A sort of directors cut re-release a year and a half from now including all the updates and DLC I think is likely to happen.

[joethetimelord]

I'm actually starting to wonder if so much got cut because of bluray space.
Also wondering if Tabata didn't try to make the game a multi-disc venture, and Square refused due to costs.
The disc everybody got was packed to the brim. 50GB is all a dual layered bluray disc can hold.

[slappy508]

Well, this is frustrating for people like me who have completed and platinumed the game already -_- (like the AP rings they give you in the holiday update wish I had them while I was playing, AP farming would've been handy)

[raWfodog]

I stopped advancing the story on Chapter 6. Right now I'm just spending the time exploring every part of the world, fighting, looking for Royal Arms, and searching for the Scraps of the treasure map (without using guides or walkthroughs). Basically, I'm just passing the time (grinding) until they update the game with more content. I might just put it down for a while and come back to it later. I have a feeling if I complete the game, I will not feel like starting a New Game+ later on.

I am enjoying the game so far though...

[slappy508]

That's probably the smart move. I haven't felt like picking it up to play nG+ even though I thoroughly enjoyed the entire journey. If it is any consolation though the post game dungeons are quite Intersting but I wish the legendary weapons that comes with it would've been gotten while playing through the game, as you literally find the best weapons and have no use for them :/ unless of course you continue from where you left off in the DLC

[SirBradders]

I agree with all the commenters saying this should have all been in from the start but you know what you can't fault them for re imagining the game. With new game plus added, in a years time I am sure to jump back in a re experience it all.

[Goldby]

we cam tho, and should.

This has been in development (hell for a while) for 10 years.
Even the NG+ was a slap in our face, not changing enemies at all, whast the point in playing the game over when i beat it at level 54 and it was easy then now to start at level 54? no Regalia type f for ng+ either.

i didnt recommend this game in my review, at least not till its actually down

[no_more_heroes]

There's a terrible glitch in the game currently where the camera gets stuck. I've actually seen this happen to a YouTuber before, but it's only just happening to me for the first time (of many subsequent times) in Costlemark Tower. I hear this is actually where most people experience it. I was able to get out of it by giving a restorative or buff to a party member (one where the camera zooms in on them taking it). Doesn't work giving Noct anything.

Has anyone had that problem before the patch? I wouldn't know since I only just reached (and completed) Costlemark Tower. Gonna now see if/how many times it happens in the rest of the game.

[criticalkare]

I know FFXV just came out but wanna play FF16 :P maybe wait another 10+ years?

[esmittystud101]

Roads are good.