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Paladins boss speaks out over Overwatch clone claims

Earlier this week, Hi-Rez Studios released a new gameplay trailer for Paladins that many thought looked similar to Overwatch.One person who didn't agree, ho…

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peewee110162807d ago

This game was in closed beta WAY before over watch was even shown.

mattdillahunty2807d ago

"Overwatch was unveiled at BlizzCon 2014 in a fully playable state, and was in a closed beta from late 2015 through early 2016."

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"The game was announced on August 5, 2015. Paladins: Champions of the Realm went into open beta on September 16, 2016, and released on Steam as an early access title the same day."

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So, not only was Overwatch announced almost a year before Paladins, but it was also "fully playable" when it was announced. Not only that, but you just have to look at the character designs from both games. The Paladins versions are complete ripoffs in most cases. Hi-Rez is still continuing to do it, too--Makoa was just released (looks like a walking turtle), and he's pretty much a Roadhog ripoff. Pull the enemy close with a chain and blast them for huge damage with a close range weapon.

It's really not even a debate, Hi-Rez has been extremely uncreative (to put it mildly) with their character design in Paladins. Just go down the list for Overwatch and you can find a cloned version for most characters.

peewee110162807d ago (Edited 2807d ago )

Did you not read what i said. PALADINS was IN CLOSED BETA TESTING WAY BEFORE IT HIT STEAM AND EARLY ASSCES IF YOU GO AND LOOK IT UP URSELF SEEING UR DEFENDING A 60$ TRASH GAME SHOWS SO MUCH ABOUT YOU

mattdillahunty2807d ago (Edited 2807d ago )

"PALADINS was IN CLOSED BETA TESTING WAY BEFORE IT HIT STEAM AND EARLY ASSCES"

First of all, just saying something doesn't make it true. Do you have a source? Second of all, you act like Overwatch appeared out of thin air in 2014 (which, again, was long before Paladins was even announced).

"Overwatch started development in Summer 2013, as development on Titan was winding down."

So yeah, it goes back even further.

But that doesn't even matter. Like I said, just compare heroes. Hi-Rez has been and continues to release heroes that are ripoffs of Overwatch. It's not even debatable at this point. Getting mad and typing in all caps doesn't change that.

yomfweeee2807d ago

Paladins was in closed beta October 2015 Matt. Easy to lookup.

ravinash2807d ago

Well, lets face it, a lot of the characters from Overwatch are inspired from various other games and movies, so it's not unusual to have a number of similar themes appear in both.
But looking at the video, a lot of the characters do look really similar - Guy of looks like a soldier, one who looks like reaper, girl who poses like tracer, Guy with chain that pulls the enemy towards you, etc, etc.
It's more than just a few similarities.

eldingo2807d ago

A few similarities can be dismissed however paladins has so many similarities between its characters and overwatch's characters that its really difficult to see 80% them as anything other than a rip off with different visual assets to avoid any legal litigation since you can't own gameplay elements and they made sure none of the characters in paladins look similar enough to the characters in overwatch legally its not ripping them off but as for me its one of the most blatant rip offs iv'e ever seen in my life the only good thing to come out of this is that its got a free to play mode so anyone who couldn't get overwatch and wants to play something similar can just play paladin on steam.

Bismarn2807d ago

I'd always just assumed this was a Gameloft game. Why even bother trying to convince people it's not a clone? The only reason people would care is if they know it's a clone and it's cheap/free. Battleborn wasn't a clone; where is it now?

Rachel_Alucard2807d ago

Of course he doesn't agree he's the CEO. Evies invulnerable ice block healing and her ult is way to on point then to just be a coincidence. Then you have the many HOTS things clearly ripped off like the horses, respawn hud, and character mastery system. Hell even the subtitle is clearly ripping it off, Champions of the realm = Heroes of the storm.

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Avowed Moved to Unreal Engine 5.3

With Support from The Coalition

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ThinkThink1d 5h ago

That's great news. Hopefully the Coalition can smooth some of those edges from the last Avowed reveal.

phoenixwing1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Well I'm annoyed. Especially at all the ppl who said the graphics sucked. It's your fault they probably shifted the game to unreal so it could look more fancy for you. I was ok with it and hoping to actually play it sometime soon. Now it's like 99% chance it's delayed.
Edit: effing graphics whores

Obscure_Observer17h ago

"Well I'm annoyed. Especially at all the ppl who said the graphics sucked. It's your fault they probably shifted the game to unreal so it could look more fancy for you."

What the hell are you talking about dude? Avowed was already in development using the UE5. The Coalition is just helping Obsidian in the transition to its latest version (5.3)

MrBaskerville16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Probably not even that big of a difference. Coalition might only have helped because they got a deadline to meet.

Unreal isn't nearly as bad as Unity when you update a project. Though it obviously depends on the project. But unity generally gets an aneyurism if you threaten to update, where Ue is usually less stingy.

Reaper22_16h ago

In excited for Avowed and Gears 6.

Fishy Fingers17h ago

It already was Unreal 5, its just moving to the latest build.

CantThinkOfAUsername8h ago

Latest build is 5.4 and it's better than previous iterations, particularly in animation and performance.

Lightning771d 1h ago

Apparently the latest build looks way better graphically. This rumor from Jez Cordin (who's credible) pretty much confirms it.

Interested in seeing more on Avowed in a few weeks.

Notellin16h ago

UE 5.3 has been out since September of last year. I can't believe this is news or that anyone is hyping this up.

MrNinosan16h ago

As Hellblade failed to set the world on fire, just like Halo Infinite and Starfield before it, it's time to look forward to the next Game of the Decade candidate.
Of course it needs to be hyped up ahead of time 😏

Notellin9h ago

I didn't mean the game itself. I can't believe there is a news article about an Unreal Engine update that launched a year ago.

Reading comprehension is tough for fanboys on N4G.

got_dam55m ago(Edited 47m ago)

@MrNinosan I just want to see what Obsidian can do with a real budget and development time. They have a made a some memorable games with massive time constraints an lackluster funding.

truthBombs16h ago

I liked the games unique artstyle when It was revealed. I hope they're not making the migration based on criticism. It's only a rumor anyways

MrBaskerville16h ago

I imagine the art style will stay the same. But there'll probably be some visual upgrades here and there.

anast15h ago

This was the only game I was jealous of, but It's a wait and see game now. Plus, I can wait until they release it on PSN.

Miraak82 14h ago

Right!!! Obsidian is like only XB GS that I wanna play there games . Pillars of Eternity is one of my fav game franchises and I'd love to step back into the world of Eora . Their world building and rpg systems are one of the best , I hope XB higher ups don't get in the way of them. If they released it on ps I would definitely buy it day 1

anast12h ago

I bought both Pillars for PC and Console. Good games.

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Steam Account Transfer Via Will on Death is Not Permitted, Valve Confirms

In case you were curious, a Steam account transfer via will is not permitted according to an official response from Valve.

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anast1d 11h ago

The games are theirs. People just pay to ride the ride.

Skuletor18h ago

Would be nice if the article's writer looked into and reported whether other digital game libraries could be transferred over via will (Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, EGS, EA app, GOG, Ubisoft Connect, Rockstar Launcher etc) instead of this half-baked piece but it's probably the same for all of them anyway

Kornholic18h ago

This seems like a way bigger issue than mandatory PSN account linking for PlayStation games.

So where is the outcry?

Skuletor18h ago

It's not like PlayStation is doing any different.

"You may not sell, buy, trade, or transfer your Online ID, Account or any personal access to PSN Services through any means or method, including by use of web sites."
https://www.playstation.com...

NotoriousWhiz17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

It's not like your account just stops working when you die. Include your email, account id, and password in the will (including the password to your email) and your survivors should have no problem using your games.

anast15h ago

PC gamers are a different lot. They don't mind renting their games forever, they don't mind spending money on overpriced equipment, and they don't mind fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game, but linking a PSN account demands a riot. This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

Skuletor15h ago

You sure talk a lot of nonsense.Go look up the percentage of digital sales compared to physical sales of PS5 games, then tell me again about "renting" games.

mandf14h ago

Overblown funny and 100percent true

anast13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

There is no option at all to buy a physical copy of a PC game... And more people game on consoles for the reasons that make PC gamers a different lot.

VIK212112h ago

it's not so much the linking but the fact that certain countries aren't allowed to access psn...

VIK212112h ago

@anast I have a disc ps5 since launch, initially I bought some disc games, but I can't be bothered to walk to a physical store nowadays... I just buy the titles when they go on special sale or gray market store like CDKeys...

DustMan12h ago

PSN was a different story altogether. It kept people who bought the game from playing in countries that PSN wasn't supported. I never understood the issue anyway.

I don't know if PC stuff is overpriced considering that you can buy a new video card with the same amount of money you'd spend over 5 or 6 years paying to play games online with a console. I'll never pay double to use the same connection. That is what I'll never understand about console gamers. "let me pay an extra hundred & twenty dollars a year to use the same internet I pay for monthly and use on literally every device in my home for free....except for my Playstation"

Extermin8or3_11h ago

@Skuletor about 50-60% of sales are digital for most games. Meaning 40-50% are physical....

anast11h ago

@VIK

You might not but you are not the expectation that creates a universal.

Skuletor9h ago

@Extermin8or3_
Right and where are you getting that information from?
https://www.statista.com/st...

@anast

"Renting games"
In the fourth fiscal quarter of 2023, approximately 77 percent of Sony Corporation's PlayStation gaming sales were generated via digital downloads.

"overpriced equipment"
Some people are willing to pay a premium for better performance, the way you keep talking about the PS5 Pro on N4G proves you're a hypocrite in that regard but whatever, lol

"fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game"
Most pc games will give the option to scan your system to choose recommended settings or start with moderate settings that will run the game fine but you're free to mess around at your own leisure, to improve performance or quality if you wish to. For those that don't want to, there's free software that can do that for you, such as Nvidia's Geforce or AMD's AMD Catalyst. Geforce Experience even gives you the option of choosing whether to prioritize performance vs image quality with a simple slider for easy optimization, it's not rocket science, like you try make it out to be.

"linking a PSN account demands a riot"
Playstation selling Helldivers 2 in regions without the legal means to create a PSN account by Sony's own standards, then telling people in those regions that already bought the game that they can no longer play the game, isn't a cause for concern? Though you've already heard about that but keep going along with your own narrative because of your weird vendetta against PC on here.

This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

PRIMORDUS4h ago

I don't rent I torrent to keep, if they take them down that's ok I don't care I have them LOL. I do buy PC games but very little as I want full control which is why I torrent to keep them in my collection, and I do not give a fuck what the devs or publishers want. I never did never will.

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thorstein17h ago

So just give your progeny the passwords.

OtterX16h ago

Keep the password sealed in the Will, only to be opened after death. :)

Aphrodia14h ago

Right? How are they gonna know you are dead?

FinalFantasyFanatic11h ago

The only way they will know is when an account is active for 300 years, lol.

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CDPR say Witcher 4 will be different from Witcher 3: "We don't want to be stuck in the same spot"

The next Witcher game will still be an RPG but players can expect new things as CD Projekt Red want to push boundaries and discover new ways of storytelling.

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Terry_B1d 8h ago

Each of the 3 existing Witcher games is pretty different from each other..

just_looken18h ago

They were different because they went from being a port studio with there last port being the god awful saints row 2 pc port to making the witcher one.

The first witcher was there first actual game with there own engine the 3rd one showed there years of experience/in house engine improvements.

This witcher game has very very few of the original people behind it and its using unreal engine like so many other games.

The big elephant in the room is that they are now proudly esg supports and go to a panel of esg reps to approve there games now.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The is cdpr 2020's not the 2010's cdpr we used to know.

https://www.gamesradar.com/...

Take the blood/sex/nudity/adult humor/combat system/rpg mechanics/writing/story charecters/art/design and there passion/drive from the first 3 games throw it in the fucking trash there now you got what they have right now for the witcher 4.

New engine new writing team new everything even esg leadership so yeah "Witcher 4 will be different from Witcher 3"

Sonic188117h ago(Edited 17h ago)

This doesn't sound good without the original team

RiseNShine13h ago

Didn't know that, disgusting, so i'm going from day 1 purchase to wait and see until i know how bad this gets.

Crows909h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I'll say that cyberpunk 2077 is a great game. Witcher 1 is my favourite game in the series with the 3rd being my least favourite.

We'll see how the new team does.

@risenshine

Never buy day1 regardless of studio

MeatyUrologist7h ago

Uggh thanks for pointing out. Didn't realize they sold out to the esg crowd. Too bad, I thought they were one of the few untouched "gamer" developer. Poland was one of the last non-woke countries left but appears they too have caved to the ESG money.

jznrpg3h ago

It’s common for people to shit on games before they come out. We haven’t even seen anything of Witcher 4. It could be great it could be mediocre etc. I’m not going to prejudge just because the company has interests in other areas. I only care if the Witcher 4 is good or not.

just_looken1h ago

@jzn

I think you need to look at the games dei/esg have been involved in/ help fund like sr/ss

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Kaii1d 8h ago

My only issue with 3 was with the combat

bRuud8320h ago

Combat was never the strongest part of the series.

just_looken18h ago

True but anyone that thinks witcher 3 2.0 combat is bad would never get past the first section of witcher one.

Profchaos20h ago

I felt 3 was ok took a long for it to click but I tried 2 and I found combat controls to be my biggest barrier to actually enjoying it was about 50 times clunkier than 3

thorstein18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I thought the weakest point was the copious amount of dialog. Sometimes less is more. I remember clicking through just to get to the objective.

outsider162418h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Compared to W1, W3 feels like a masterpiece in combat..lol.

Nacho_Z16h ago

I loved it despite the combat so if they can get that right it'll be an incredible game. The other thing I wasn't fond of was being deluged with loot, quality over quantity for me.

sagapo15h ago

Can someone tell me what they didn’t like about the combat? Was it the pace or something? Because I didn’t have any problem with the combat once I realized it wasn’t a button mashing type of combat…
I honestly like to know.

Nacho_Z9h ago

Weightless, floaty, without impact and generally unsatisfying.

Also on the hardest difficulty you could literally get one shotted by a dwarf with a wooden club despite max gear so there was a hell of a lot of dodging and rolling, as in almost constantly, which didn't add to the fun.

sagapo8h ago

@Nacho: I haven’t played on the hardest difficulty truth be told so I can’t comment on that part.
My build however was a dual wield/aard sign build; knock back enemies and hit them hard + ranged got deflected. I did dodge and roll a lot anyway with this build so it didn’t really bother me, so yeah, fun for me, not for you I guess.
Thx for sharing your thoughts tho.

thorstein5h ago

I would say that, for me, it was the silly cutscenes in the middle of boss fights that didn't match the fight itself.

Example: I mastered the combat early. In one boss fight, I was untouched, flawless. Then a cutscene shows me barely beating the boss toe to toe.

Ciri vs 3 witches. I took down the one from the cutscene first. She's dead. I blink away. Fight, defeat the other two. And blink to the entrance before the cutscene triggered. Suddenly, I'm in the middle of everything with a crone who has long since been defeated and, instead of blinking away, Ciri becomes the dumbest character ever, and stoops to let the very precious token dangle in front of the crone.

Both of those are narrative breaking.

jznrpg3h ago

It’s the best of the series. Of course it could improve but at least it’s not Elder Scrolls combat which hasn’t changed since ever.

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helicoptergirl1d 8h ago

Bethesda seems like a studio that is "stuck in the same spot". Development wise. Glad CDPR are wary of that element in game design.

jznrpg3h ago

They have actually declined from all the systems they had in Morrowind. Acrobatics Athletics is gone. Spells are simpler. Combat hasn’t changed at all. They added a strip of sprint button and you only have enough stamina to run for 10 seconds but you can kill dragons and powerful beings. I could go on but yeah they are stuck in reverse

babadivad28m ago

I was done when they made races purely cosmetic.

Hugodastrevas21h ago

This can either go very well or very badly. I hope the latter.

DaReapa11h ago

So you're wishing bad on the game?
J/k, lol. I assume to know what you meant.

just_looken18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

That is on your mobile device they copied pokemon go few years back
https://www.thewitcher.com/...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

It was such a flop they removed the videos and removed the link to that article but its still on there servers.

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