Final Fantasy 15 looks amazing on PS4, but there's a small resolution price to pay

From PlayStation Universe: "Hajime Tabata, director on Final Fantasy 15, has revealed a few new details on the hotly anticipated JRPG’s technical performance on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One during the latest Active Time Report broadcast."

[trywizardo]

As I always say on games wither this problem on X1 or PS4,if the FPS is stable then the resolution doesn't matter,if the game looks and runs smoothly then its great.

[meka2611]

Feel the same. Tired of everyone bitching about resolution. Especially the ones that complain about 900 vs 1080

[Eiyuuou]

Indeed, though 720 vs 1080 is noticable though.

But I could care less, as long as the FPS is stable.

[Bansai]

all of a sudden framerate matters, sure.

[Omnislashver36]

With how bad the aliasing can be with FFXV I think resolution does matter. I'm hoping it gets an upgrade with Neo/Scorpio. 60fps + some good AA would go a long way with this title.

[andrewsquall]

Then get ready to bitch about this game when it underperforms in FPS ON TOP of the pathetic resolution issues.

[andrewsquall]

@Bansai I think its more hilarious that "all of a sudden", for some people here, this game has fallen into the category of "as long as the FPS is stable then......." hahaha sorry I couldn't finish.
Why have some people decided to dub this game as the spokesperson for rock solid targeted FPS when it has proven with 2 demos to utterly fail at this???

[freshslicepizza]

i could see ps4 neo doing very well and scorpio. peoiple want the extra power.

[Kingthrash360]

For the record, when it comes to resolution between the xbox one and ps4....especially in the beginning was tge xbo costed more than the ps4 but had a gap in performance and resolution. resolution itself wasn't the problem...it was the fact that an under powered machine costed more than the more powerful one....even when they costed the same it wasn't a good thing.

A game dosent have to be 1080p to be good...is it preferred yes but 60fps>1080, 720, 4k all day every day

[fr0sty]

900 vs. 1080 is indeed noticeable, especially on larger TVs. It isn't just 180 extra pixels.

[Gaming_Cousin]

Lol @ the people saying resolution doesn't matter.

"if the FPS is table then the resolution doesn't matter"

Yeah what's the point of buying an HDTV or 4KTV? Let's just stick to 480i TVs because framerate /s

[Eldyraen]

Yes it matters but it is secondary. There are many more important things when it comes to a great visual/gameplay experience.

[EmperorDalek]

Now that's just ridiculous. 480p would make the game blurry, and precision in say shooters would be difficult. Could you imagine playing BF4 in 480p? Wouldn't work.
That's not an issue in 720p, as showcased by the many shooters on PS3/360. The difference between 900p and 1080p is barely noticeable, so that's why it's annoying when resolution becomes a debate.

Like people have pointed out before, if X1 was 720p, and PS4 was something like 721p, Ps4 fans would still find that worth bragging about. That's why I don't think many people really care about resolution, they just like bragging about it when it's in their favour.

[Eiyuuou]

Oh it's very simple.

"Preference", sounds familiar?

Why do you get you panties in a twist just because we prefer a stable FPS over the highest resolution?

[GameNameFame]

@EmperorDalek

900P to 1080P is about 50 percent in resolution bump. It is definitely noticeable bump. Game is 100% still playable on both versions, but people want crisper image qualities.

Problem is xbox fanboys like you downplay resolution of 50 percent difference as if they are nothing. At the same time, Scorpio and Neo will have same resolution difference. Now xbox fanboys will suddenly talk about resolution difference.

[Dspdspes]

The question you should ask is: whats the point of buying a 4ktv if the current hardware cant take advantage of it?

[Rumor]

No wonder I've stopped engaging on this site. Whenever I see this happen to Xbox it's the end of the world now frame rate matters all of a sudden?

I'm a Sony fan, always have been. All I own is a ps4... Ive been a member of N4G since the start of the ps3 gen. But what I'm trying to say is, the sheer biased fanboyism is so sickening here. There's a constant flip flopping of ideas, hypocrisy, and this idea of "if Sony does it I have to defend it mindstate" here. My goodness. It's especially evident in the ps plus articles.

I've seen xbone get bashed to hell for running games at 900p and having $60 membership fees. But all's right and "framerate is stable enough" or "it's only $10 a year" comments start to arise. Come on N4G..

[Ginpachi-sama]

Zip it shrimpy

[Eiyuuou]

Instead of getting all emotional, you should take a step back and think.

You're just generalising every user on this site, and when there's someone whose opinion doesn't correspond with the mass' opinion you call it "flip flopping"?

C'mon man, different people, different opinions.

If you're gonna claim such thing, at least bring proof to back it up.

[Servbot41]

Framerate always mattered. It's just that PS4 has almost always had a better framerate AND resolution compared to the Xbox One.

[candystop]

Yeah I wouldn't take it personal! There's a bigger user base on Playstation which makes them the majority on this site and others. Had the mods not completely banned almost all Xbox fan boys we would be seeing bigger more balanced brawls but e dont want that. Every side has there point but it's MS who put themselves in a bad spot this generation. Luckily things seem to some what be turning around but I would like to see MS listen more to fans and hire back key players that once had a vision for Xbox . One thing to remember is that many younger people and grown jerks frequent this site and blind out the true mature comments written everyday. Just enjoy the news and have fun with it. Never take this site to serious. Not every Sony gamer is an extreme fan boy and same goes for X1.

[boomtube1987]

and many future games from fall 2017 onwards..... PS4 Neo 900p 60fps & 1080p 60fps Xbox Scorpio.

A Playstation god who goes by the name Yoshida once said...The higher the resolution and frame rate the better the game and gamers can become. Yes, resolution and framerate does matter. FLIP FLOPPPP!

[Sephiroushin]

Are you sure? Because they hardly target 60fps, I mean many developers will just rather try to max the graphic department and make them run at 30fps at best (I mean when it comes to consoles they would rather make a good looking game that run like crap instead of giving up some graphics and making them run 60+ fps, so they would rather try to max texture, shadows this and that on the system or make them 4k ~25fps than 2k 60fps) its usually the only thing I dislike about consoles and its almost why I lately play more on PC.

[boomtube1987]

@Sephiroushin I was referring to NEO and Scorpio

[feraldrgn]

Essentially, both platforms have to have compromises to run & the Xbox has to run at 765p - 900p, but that's unimportant information right?

[TheCommentator]

It will run upscaled 4K on XB1S and native 4K on Scorpio though, but that's unimportant information too, right?

[PixelOmen]

Native 4k...lol...

[TheCommentator]

Yeah, native. MS said dynamically scaled games will be native 4K on Scorpio.

Edit: I guess I was wrong, I just looked it up again and it will only make the games run at 1080p locked. A patch is still needed for a 4K frame buffer and would depend on the devloper to patch it. Sorry about that, guys.

[BlacKJesu5]

It'll be a an ugly image upscaled my man

[Kryptix]

Commentator...it doesn't work like that. lol

http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-...

"When that same game’s running on Scorpio, because of the compute capability, it’s effectively is going to run at its max resolution the whole time. And so you will see advantages like that when your Xbox One games are running on Scorpio. So that’s why we continue to talk to developers about dynamic scaling because I think as compute capability goes up on the hardware, they kind of get it for free. Now, it’s not going to make Halo 5 run with 4K pixels. The frame buffer is not a 4K frame buffer for the game. But it will run more solidly. And certain developers might go back and decide if they’ve built a 4K version for PC already for some of their games, they might go back and decide to enable a 4K version for the Scorpio Xbox when it launches.” - Phil

Read it? It's not going to make Halo 5 run with 4k pixels. The game would already need to have 4k pixels to run in true native 4k. All the old games will need to be reworked.

These people praise Phil Spencer and they don't even closely read what he says. lol

Final Fantasy 15 has no PC version so there is no 4k version built unless the developers re-release the game for Scorpio with 4k pixels included or patch it in. Highly doubt that will happen if it's just for Scorpio alone. Knowing Square Enix.

EDIT: Disagree to facts, blind fanboys. ;)

@Commentator

I posted my comment 10min before you posted your apology. Not gonna say sorry due to that fact, but it's nice that you apologized though. It's rare that someone comes back to correct their mistake, respect for that. Just don't rush out comments next time if you're not so sure what's true or not. If we had that in the comments more, things would be nicer. I research before posting anything, thus, Phil's quote to back it up.

[TheGamingArt]

You clearly don't know the difference between scaling and native. Sampling pixels != native rendering resolution lol.

[feraldrgn]

It's on the Xbox One, but moving goalposts is fun right?
I'm sure Xbox owners will be happy to fork out extra money on top of the game to get it running at a reasonable performance (why not just go the PC route at that point?)

[Roronoa0411]

XB1S will upscale to 4K lol... No it doesn't if you have a 4K tv most of them have that technology built in already which mean any console benefits from a 4K tv. It has a 4K blueray and streaming for media not games

[TheCommentator]

It's amazing how many of you are attacking me for being wrong, but don't realize I knew that hours ago when I looked it up again. Like you Kryptix, you know that if you'd read more than just my original post, you'd have known about my reading comprehension skills and see the apology? It was nice of you to offer up the information though, so thank you. I'd read about it just a few minutes before you posted, and no, I don't remember everything perfectly, sorry.

[TheColbertinator]

@TheCommentator

Thank you for accepting that sometimes we get the wrong idea. Nobody is perfect and that wont change but I certainly appreciate that you owed up to it.

[XanderZane]

I'll probably wait to get this game. There is so many other games I want before this that I probably won't get it until next year. I could care less about the resolution as long as the game runs smoothly and doesn't crash.

[Rodney25]

Why would you want your games to crash? You're an awful person. :D

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I was waiting for someone to catch that after noticing it earlier, loool

[XanderZane]

Mistyped. lol!! I think you knew that though. It's fixed.

[Mystogan]

Can't wait to play this on Scorpio.

edit: Lol whats with the downvotes. I cant wait to play it on Scorpio because it will probably look even better than the Xbox One version. Of course I'm not going to wait a year to play it. But ill probably replay it on Scorpio just to see the difference.

[Kreisen]

- Nobody ever

[Nara_shikamaru]

If you think so then you live inside a rock, much less under it

[ninsigma]

Well you'll have to wait....like a year xD

[Mystogan]

Yes probably...

[IIFloodyII]

Is there even any guarantee it'll get a Scorpio upgrade? I'd be shocked if Xbox even makes up 15% of it's sales, I doubt they'll be in much of a rush to pump more money into developing and optimizing the game for Scorpio.

[Rodney25]

Who cares, as long as it doesn't look like my screen was whiped with Vaseline and doesn't run like a slideshow I'm fine.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Aww, and I was so sure you were the type that liked 'em slick yet stuttery.XD

[Rodney25]

No, that's only on the weekends, but I can't talk about that here.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Wowser :-O

[spicelicka]

Honestly care a lot more about the lighting, particles effects, textures, and animation more than resolution,

[JJShredder]

Played the demo on both systems. I think it looks fine and console-only folks should be good with it. I am personally holding out for a PC port.....game is gorgeous and craves the option of high-end hardware! I know they haven't announced anything but they haven't straight-up said there are no plans for PC.

[Germany7]

They will announce the PC version soon, it will be called the "Wonderful Edition".
Pc is a wonderful platform.

[phoenixwing]

this is happening because they wanted to use bleeding edge tech in their game not because it's visually unimpressive. I say good on them for shooting high.

[corroios]

The PS4 will run between 900p-1080p and the Xbox wil run 765p-900p. Both version wont be very good for the players that have 4k tv, but thats only a very low percentage got those, for the rest it will be ok.

[Smokingunz]

A long development time and they pushed the game back to November 29th and the game still can't run in 1080 at 60fps!? Wow! What have been square doing all this time? Smh.

[Nara_shikamaru]

They'll never get it to 1080 @60 fps on the current gen consoles, if they do they will have to severely downgrade the game or decrease its size, as in physical map etc....a pc version will of course meet that standard

[Tzuno]

now the fans clench butt and talk resolution is ok no matter, what a bunch of cheap silly fanboys.

[mogwaii]

So lower res and low fps, great, neo can come soon enough.

[Exvalos]

They compromised the resolution and still apparently can't lock in 30 frames lmfao at these weAK ass consoles neo and scorpio for the win

[young7yang]

I will gladly take 720p if it means a smooth frame rate as both demo versions of the game run at a very inconsistent and low framerate. Compared to Xenoblade X which runs at a near consistent 30 fps throughout and is arguably a much more beautiful game from my own direct comparisons.. Hell even FFXIII ran smoothly..The frame rate is seriously distracting.

[young7yang]

Xenoblade vs Final Fantasy XV
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[PhoenixUp]

Don't even try to compare them. Xenoblade Chronicles X has some very horrible facial animations.

[young7yang]

Solid framerate absolutely stunning environments seamless transition from Mech to characters. Almost no load times between locations, weather, night and day transitions... Facial animations can slide in this case.

FFXV very beautiful character models, bland environments, horrid frame rate, boring game play, and very unclear RPG mechanics...

Argue against this all you want. But FFXV is not ready and in its current state needs to be further optimized because as of right now the technical issues are seriously over shadowing a potentially great story. and Yes! I have played the game.. More than once on both XBOX ONE and PS4.. And both versions run like crap!

[Taislin]

I can't stress how ludicrous that comparison is. If you had any inkling of knowledge on the tech FFXV is running you would be ashamed to make that comparison. NO open world game, let me stress that, NO OPEN WORLD GAME, possibly even not open world, is trying to do what FFXV is doing with hair/clothes/fluids simulation, while having no load times afer the initial one, while rendering full 3D skies, tons of VFX, amazing dynamic lighting (difuse, specular, reflections, shadows), physical based rendering and a butt ton of animations and complex AI, inverse kynematics, while aiming for 1080p 30fps and retaining one of the best visuals ever. People like to speak out of their asses sometimes, but if nothing else, FFXV is a technical masterpiece which is being held back by weak hardware.

[young7yang]

And yet the comparison was made..

Graphics are not end all be all. It is art direction and design.. Hardware limitations are not the issue here.. Just look at the original Xenoblade Chronicles on Wii.. Realism is fine a dandy but when all you look at his graphics you loose sight of what was originally intended.

Some of the best games to survive the visual test of time were not the most visually intricate at the time of their release, Yet they are standouts even today..

After spending a significant amount of time with Final Fantays XV it is not ready nor does it have what I would consider appealing gameplay, even to die hard Final Fantasy fans.. Which I consider myself.

[young7yang]

Xenoblade Exploration

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Lynx0207]

Stable 30 FPS? So 900p-1080p doesn't sound bad to me.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Can't they just make it a straight 900p with a consistent 30fps? I could live with that unless a PC port is available any time soon.

[Overwhelming]

*sigh* I'm gonna have to wait forever for the PC version.

[Platformgamer]

Ok, i'll pay that "price", just release it sept 30th

[Artemidorus]

My TV is 1080p at the distance I play it should be all fine

[FreeSpeech69]

Honestly 720P 30 FPS has always been fine to me (and I'm a PC Gamer first but usually go for like 45 FPS, anything higher doesn't look much better for me).

[Damien1801]

Well guess I have to buy a NEO this Christmas.

[JOHN_DOH]

The difference is pretty noticeable between the ps4 and xbox version. Looks like xbox version doesn't use aa or maybe they both don't ps4 higher resolution helps.