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Sony Won't Rule Out Cross-Network Play in the Future

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"In an interview with IGN ME, we asked Sony’s Global Sales and Marketing head, Jim Ryan, on where Sony stands on allowing people on different consoles to play together."

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Aloy-Boyfriend2857d ago

Overwatch and Titanfall 2 cross network play...

Let them fight!

NewMonday2857d ago

first MS should ban the vocal public hate group headed by the infamous Tim Dog(actual stalker), Crapgamer ..etc, these guys cross the line and inspire the worst in the Xbox community.

until that happens Sony must not even consider it

freshslicepizza2857d ago

interesting how now all of the sudden sony finds itself backpeddling and dodging on what many gamers and developers would like to implement. and let's not have consumers also act evasive such as yourself, the people at rocket league are the ones who are ready and letting rhe public know it's sony who they are waiting on.

NewMonday2857d ago (Edited 2857d ago )

@moldybread
PS4 online games have many players online and no trouble finding matches, not missing out on anything so we don't care.

sucks to be on the dead XBox online community though, don't blame them for begging to join a bigger league

Xavior_Reigns2856d ago

I find it funny they hated MS moving to PC again and suddenly... "win10 family baby!!" LOL!

uptownsoul2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

I find it so interesting that the people who want to put pressure on Sony to do cross-console play were 100% silent for all of last generation with Microsoft. I mean Microsoft even lost out on games last gen because they refused cross-network play, still no complaints.

Whatever it takes to make Sony the "bad guy"

gangsta_red2856d ago

Already setting up the excuses just in case Sony doesn't go ahead with the cross platform gameplay?

uptownsoul2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@gangsta_red - "Already setting up the excuses just in case Sony doesn't go ahead with the cross platform gameplay?"

Answer: No, Just looking for consistency: If you didn't have a problem last generation with companies refusing cross-network play, don't claim its a deal breaker now

gangsta_red2856d ago

@uptown

I find it equelly interesting that the people who celebrated a company's willingness for cross platform last gen are now quick to make excuses for them if they reject it. Consistency indeed.

TheUndertaker852856d ago

@uptownsoul: Yet Sony allowed cross play with Portal 2. It was highlighted that MS wasn't open to cross play. Now they are and multiple games on Xbox One are releasing with it. Suddenly Sony isn't open to the idea.

What part of that is consistent? Games like LBP 3 could have allowed it within the Sony ecosystem yet Sony hasn't done so. The last title Sony did so with was Playstation All-Stars.

Pongwater2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

I don't see the point of crossplay now that XBL will soon include mouse and keyboard players. Let the XB console fans "enjoy" that on their own.

freshslicepizza2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@uptownsoul
"I find it so interesting that the people who want to put pressure on Sony to do cross-console play were 100% silent for all of last generation with Microsoft. I mean Microsoft even lost out on games last gen because they refused cross-network play, still no complaints."

well unless you can name names this comment doesn't mean much. microsoft was crticized for games like final fantasy and not being open to their servers. they were also crticized heavily for charging online in the first place. but that was then and this is now and i dont get why some of you are now using microsoft as a shield to defend sony's inactivity on the CURRENT matter.

"Whatever it takes to make Sony the "bad guy"

how, by using microsoft as a scapegoat for the past so that you don't have to put any pressure on sony TODAY? stop being a hypocrite.

@NewMonday
"PS4 online games have many players online and no trouble finding matches, not missing out on anything so we don't care."

maybe the popular games but more players don't hurt. funny how ehen sony was with the pc nobody complained yet people such as yourself are so anti-xbox you are not supportive of larger communities just because.

"sucks to be on the dead XBox online community though, don't blame them for begging to join a bigger league"

i don't play on xbox live, i play on playstation network and i know first hand games like M.A.G. were very hard to find good matches even after a couple of months. same with socom 4, it was hard to get certain modes going and the game wasn't even very old. you know your argument is weak at best jjst because you will support any decision sony makes.

uptownsoul2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@moldybread - "well unless you can name names this comment doesn't mean much."

Here is the link to the game Xbox missed out on (and if your read the 1st sentence of the 3rd paragraph it says: "Specifically, Microsoft refuses to allow titles to share multiplayer servers between other platforms.") http://www.rpgsite.net/news...

So again I say, Microsoft's refusal of cross-platform resulted in missing software...Yet NO complaints or pressure on Microsoft

Sony's POSSIBILE refusal of cross-platform results in NO missing software...Yet there should be complaints and/or pressure???

uptownsoul2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@gangsta_red -- I didn't complain last gen when Microsoft's policy of no cross-platform play resulted in 360 missing software***. And I'm not complaining now (especially since PlayStation is NOT missing out on any software because of no cross-platform)

Can't get more consistent than that

***Here is the link to a game Xbox missed out on (and if your read the 1st sentence of the 3rd paragraph it says: "Specifically, Microsoft refuses to allow titles to share multiplayer servers between other platforms.") http://www.rpgsite.net/news...

freshslicepizza2856d ago

@uptownsoul
" I mean Microsoft even lost out on games last gen because they refused cross-network play, still no complaints".

i dug this up and some people did call out microsoft for it then,

http://n4g.com/news/1306591...

so i am not sure what your point is. find any article about microsoft refusal to allow cross play in the past and you will find comments about ms and their policies. the ball is now in sony's court so stop trying to evade the current situation.

uptownsoul2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@moldybread - "i dug this up and some people did call out microsoft for it then..."

Okay, and those "some people" are consistent when calling Sony out. But again, FOR THE 3RD TIME...If you DID NOT call out Microsoft last generation don't claim its a big deal now

And I'm not evading anything because IF Sony says no, PlayStation doesn't loose out on any software or anything. (That is unless you can tell me what PlayStation looses if Sony says no???)

freshslicepizza2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@uptownsoul
"Okay, and those "some people" are consistent when calling Sony out. But again, FOR THE 3RD TIME...If you DID NOT call out Microsoft last generation don't claim its a big deal now"

this is a feature many gamers want, it isn't about who pointed fingers years ago. people liked the idea back then and they like it now. microsoft was the one to blame back then, so why would sony choose to go backwards now and what benefit to you as a consumer would that do? many playstation fans liked the idea of cross play with the pc, what's the problem now? many playstation fans pointed to microsoft for their restricted policies but now you think it's ok that sony now goes backwards?

"And I'm not evading anything because IF Sony says no, PlayStation doesn't loose out on any software or anything. (That is unless you can tell me what PlayStation looses if Sony says no???)"

you work for sony? if not then act like a consumer because as a consumer this feels like a good move all around.

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AngelicIceDiamond2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@Monday Wtf are you a spokesperson for Sony and do you speak for every single PS gamer? No you don't you're making excuses for Sony and deflecting super hard and ummmm the Xbox community is actually thriving (Good god oh mighty some ppl). Sony should allow this for longevity for MP games and hey even devs will see a huge increase in DLC sales so everybody wins. Not only that but I can see a small reduction in fanboy flame wars because each camp will socket it out from dusk till dawn in online games. But to be perfectly realistic allot of ppl will get along and playing casually with one another no wars just fun and games. But as I said there will be THAT part of the internet however....

xMANB3ARP1G2856d ago

Look just because Microsoft is losing now they want all games to play nice together regardless of platform if they were moving units like Sony they wouldn't want this or even have gone with releasing xbox games on pc Sony dosent need cross platform play at all so they can choose not to have it simple as that. Sorry you bet on a losing horse with xbox one that's your fault not sonys. You xbox one gamers have fun with your xbox 360 games. I will have fun playing new games without the toxic xbox community (to be fair alot of them jumped ship to ps4 so the psn community has gotten vile lately) I love how xbox gamers only have a problem with something when their ship starts sinking.

NewMonday2855d ago

why are we even debating this? MS never formally requested access to PSN players, just hot air FUD

TheCommentator2855d ago

There's only one important takeaway from all of this nonsense you guys are all arguing about:

MS used to be closed to the idea of crossplay when they were winning the "console war" last gen, and now that Sony is winning it's them who are being stubborn about it. Both companies are arrogant when they are winning.

NewMonday2855d ago

@shloobmm3

Tim Dog is a stalker, he promotes Crapgamer, Mooch..etc and they are unapologetically racist. he chases down Sony managers like Shu and heckles them, also stakes out game stores for hours in his car to see how many by XBox, I'm not making any of this up, crazy $#!t is for real, making excuses for them is why PSN must stay off limits.

freshslicepizza2855d ago

@NewMonday

the makers of rocket league have come out and said they are waiting on sony but other than that they are ready to go. so you can evade, sidetrack and ignore the facts all you want just because you seem to have issues putting sony on the spotlight but facts are facts. not once has sony EVER said they are willing to cross platform with other consoles. even nintendo said it's ok,

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

"...They said, 'Yep, no problem. You can have other console players playing against Wii U players. You can have smartphone players play against them. No problem,'" Gaskell told Eurogamer. "We're still talking to Sony about them relaxing their policies, but we don't think they'll have any issue with it. So when we launch Pure Chess, you'll be able to play against Wii U, 3DS, iOS and Android players. And when we patch PlayStation, those consoles will be added to the mix as well."

has it happened yet?

NewMonday2855d ago

@moldybread

only one sidetracking here is you, you never respond directly to the point and just divert, means you lost the discussion but don't have the grace to admit it.

owned!

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SaveFerris2857d ago

If Sony agrees, I think it will be limited to certain titles. But it is possible Sony may choose not to allow cross-network play with Xbox, especially if they don't see any benefit to it.

Cueil2856d ago

it's not for them it's for us... especially in games like Neverwinter... there is literally 0 reason not to have cross play on that game

TheUndertaker852855d ago (Edited 2855d ago )

The simple fact is there's multiple games that should and could allow it. Co-Op games in particular. Portal 2 allowed PS3 players to play with PC. Microsoft didn't allow it due to their old policies. Now that policy is gone, the door wide open, and Sony wants to back away with no reasoning. Playstation All-Stars allowed PS3 & Vita players to play together. So why weren't titles like LBP 3 made to be cross platform? Would it not be beneficial for PS3 and PS4 players to play together?

Sony wanted to bring cross play to the table last gen then backed away with PS4. There's nothing stopping it but them this time around.

PhucSeeker2855d ago

@TheUndertaker Console owners are not that into mmo games. So in order to keep the player count high, they have to cross-play with pc. But pc don't have a middle network structure like psn or xbox live. Psn-xbox cross-play can create all kind of terms and legal problems that need to be dealt with which would cost a lots. But do Sony/M$ get much out of it ? Quite frankly, no.

TheUndertaker852855d ago (Edited 2855d ago )

@PhucSeeker: Sony already took that risk with Portal 2. It allowed PS3 players to play with Steam users or users on PC. At the time they claimed they'd opened the door to Microsoft but Microsoft had policies against it.

Even if that is taken out of the picture Microsoft is selling less and stands to gain less but is opening that door again. Now Sony doesn't want to answer or get involved. The roles are literally reversed from last gen. MS is allowing not only 360 and One players to play together but also players on PC. Then Minecraft namely is taking it further, allowing players on iOS and Android to participate. Meanwhile Sony is killing the practice it already used.

So how is it Microsoft can afford to take the chance while behind, in particular with the iOS and Android ecosystems but Sony who is moving more product can't?

There once was a time where iOS and Xbox Live were the most closed platforms out there. Now it seems to be Sony who brought up consoles not being so closed.

PhucSeeker2855d ago (Edited 2855d ago )

@TheUndertaker As i said, Pc connects directly to the game server. But xbox and ps have to go through its own networks before connecting to the game server. Cross-play on consoles will create a big legal battle because of that. Sony doesn't want that.

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Kerppamaister2856d ago

Sony claimed EA Access isn't good value for the players so I wouldn't count on Sony allowing cross play. But cross play is for the players, something Sony seems to sometimes forget.

BrandanT2857d ago

Then what's the point of two separate consoles? They're very similar to begin with and now there's going to be the possibility of playing across networks. It's like video games are becoming a trust.

Nitrowolf22857d ago

I don't see what's wrong with that. It's just cross play, you know like PC and consoles can do it. Plus, this can be very beneficial for devs as games can have a longer life support

The purpose of different consoles have always typically come down to its exclusives.

freshslicepizza2857d ago

how does it impact you negatively? if anything it will make the community even larger which will greatly help on some titles to find people to play with.

uptownsoul2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

Which is a great reason to do it now AND was a great reason to do it last generation (but 1 of companies were adamantly against it last gen & their supporters didn't say a single word)

thisgamer5032856d ago

@uptownsoul

So when one company finally progresses with the idea, it's perfectly fine for the other to regress?

ninjazfistz2856d ago (Edited 2856d ago )

@uptownsoul We are in a new era where there is little to no difference between the platforms. Both platforms now charge to access online (which is sad). The least these companies could do is remove this barrier if we are paying to access our games multiplayer. It would be an advantage to both platforms to remove barriers. Defending it just because it was done before is immature.

crazychris41242857d ago

Sounds good to me as long as its an OPTION to play with Xbox and PC gamers and we can set up in game parties. Now I don't care who Im playing against but some people might not want to play with the other platforms.

But if they do go ahead with this then they need to allow us to start parties in game with friends from other platforms. Its annoying to play with friends in Rocket League when Im on PC and they're on the PS4. You can setup private matches or try 100x to join the same public server. Its a nice start but its not good enough.

Cueil2856d ago

of course, there is an option... it's already there for PC/PS4 games

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

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just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty3d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken3d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty3d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken3d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken3d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

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@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H95d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1015d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H95d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion5d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_925d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19725d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing695d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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