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Skyrim Remastered: Pete Hines Explains Why The Game Won’t Be Free For Existing Console Players

Bethesda won some major brownie points when they announced that The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim would be remastered and made available later this year… but that it would be absolutely free for PC players who already own the game and its DLC.

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Mr-Dude2903d ago

I am not paying full price again for a 5 year old game, especially not a Bethesda game. Will be used then or a sale

Eidolon2902d ago

Game will drop to half price within a couple months. $60 is ridiculous when they're even mentioning the high-res packs that USERS have created.

Forum_Pirate2902d ago

What are you talking about?

That's the reason they aren't charging PC players. It's a game we already own and DLC we already own on a system we already own with high res textures we already have and mod support we already have. If they tried charging PC players money they'd be laughed at. It would be like releasing The Last of Us remastered on the PS3. Nobody is buying that, for any amount of money.

Meanwhile, porting the game to PS4 and Xbone requires adapting the game to completely new architectures and getting it optimized for completely new hardware. Given that Bethedas huge games already have tons of optimization issues, that's no small task. Most certainly more work than Dishonored. not to mention adding mod support.

Also because they can on console because you don't have an option.

TheCommentator2902d ago

You forget, Forum, that Bethesda got Skyrim up and running on XB1 and PS4 while beginning to work on Fallout 4 as a test of how the engine performed. That means that the work was done already, and people who bought Fallout 4 paid for Skyrim's remastering costs already. Full price for this game is an outrage. $30 at most and even that is pushing it.

Forum_Pirate2902d ago

That's like, not true. People who paid for Fallout 4 paid for fallout 4 and the 7 years of development for fallout 4. If Bethesda wants to monitize their efforts getting Skyrim running on the new consoles and whatever upgrades they attached to it, there is nothing wrong with that.

$30? The Legendary Edition on Steam is $40, without the extra work of the port or the upgrades. Dream on.

TheCommentator2902d ago

Right, Forum, but they can give it away for free to PC owners so if you buy the Legendary edition for $40 you get the upgraded edition with it. Then they sell it for $60 on consoles??? Why not $40? Since they aren't giving it away for free to 360/PS3 owners who already bought everything, people who put just as much money into the game as PC owners did get royally screwed. That's why it should be $30 on consoles at most.

TBH, this is just one more reason why MS has the right strategy in deciding to make the Xbox more like a PC in terms of software compatibility. If I were playing Skyrim 360 on my XB1, for example, they could just give me the upgrades for free too.

Forum_Pirate2902d ago

You seem to have missed the part where they're porting it to an entirely new platform, re-optomizing it and adding things other than the lighting upgrade that you didn't already have access to.

You aren't getting screwed. If you are, you screwed yourself by buying it on a platform where that kind of work is necessary to get it running. Them charging for that work is not unfair or screwing you over.

Why should it be *cheaper* on consoles, when they had to put in more work *because* of consoles? You seem to think that an inferior version of an otherwise identical product on the same platform is like, a bonus somehow. It's isn't. For people who have the legenday edition it's a minor upgrade and nothing more, maybe an excuse to play again. For people who just buy the special edition the old one is irrelevant because the new one is identical but with better lighting. These are not true of the console version. Just the draw distance/framerate that even begin to rival the PC version will be a major improvement, also, again, mod support.

That's why people game on PCs in the first place. We don't have generations. If you bought a console because it's easy or because that's what your friends have, which are both perfectly valid reasons, it's still your fualt when stuff like this happens and you pay extra.

Kingthrash3602902d ago

I never played skyrim. So this is awsome for me!......
...wait. ....full price????
Wtf this game was out before circuit city closed down! Guess I'll wait for the price drop to reach 29.99 or less anything over that is just some bs.

souldestroyer142902d ago

"That's the reason they aren't charging PC players. It's a game we already own and DLC we already own on a system we already own with high res textures we already have and mod support we already have."

If it's something you already own then why is it even a new game? Because it isn't the same game it's on an updated engine. If it was just higher resolution textures it would simply be an update to the original game.

Forum_Pirate2901d ago

Yeah, see, being on an updated engine doesn't mean we don't already have it. The lighting will be better. whoopty doo. They'd never sell it to PC players for any amount of money based on that alone.

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gameseveryday2902d ago

I think you have a fair point. A full price point for a 5 year old game is kind of unfair. This should have been $40 at most.

Yi-Long2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

Myeah, it seems a bit high, but on the other hand it's a well-loved fantastic game offering hundreds of hours of gameplay.

I can understand why they're asking 60 bucks for it, but I'm sure many (MANY) people will refrain from buying it until it hits the 30$ or less mark.

I haven't played the game yet so if they haven't done a poor job I'll certainly pick it up, but I will wait for a big price-drop as well.

freshslicepizza2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

this is why i am so supportive of the new direction console gaming is headed. instead of re-releasing games like the last of us and charging all over again. systems like the ps4 neo will hopefully solve that issue. same with the xbox, you buy an xbox scorpio and you can play the same game again but now in 4k.

@Mr-Dude
"Although you have a point about BC. Xbox users have to pay the same price for Skyrim as Playstation users. This is not about The Last Of Us, but Skyrim. Besides TLOU remasterd was not fully priced..."

where did i specifically say this is only about xbox? i seaid moving forward meaning ps4 neo and scorpio and also hoping the next xbox and the ps5 will also carry on with keeping gamers compatable with their old software.

Mr-Dude2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

Although you have a point about BC. Xbox users have to pay the same price for Skyrim as Playstation users. This is not about The Last Of Us, but Skyrim. Besides TLOU remasterd was not fully priced...

Deadpooled2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

Looking around online retailers in the UK the pre-order prices are lower than full price at sub £35 (Base PS4/XB1 versions £32.69 http://www.base.com/buy/pro...

Pixelart2902d ago

Thought you console folk would be used to it by now.

shauzy2902d ago

well, nobody said that about call of duty

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Herbalistic2903d ago

I like the new additions but i'm not going to pay 60 dollars.I'll wait for a price drop down the road.

Eidolon2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

$20-30 is my limit. It's not a new game, so they shouldn't be charging a new game price.

beerzombie2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

Ya I'll wait a buy and new game for sixy dollars on a rehash money grab. They could have just bc the game with mods.

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Iberius2903d ago (Edited 2903d ago )

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that money is the answer.

While people are complaining about this anyone have any bets on when the next Elder Scrolls game will release? I'm betting 2020.

Movefasta19932902d ago

2017/2018, tops.They saw them fallout 4 sales,they want more!

xX1NORM1Xx2902d ago

Going by the bethesda releases since F3 its gonna be 2018 at the earliest 2019 at the latest

InTheZoneAC2902d ago

i would say an elder scrolls game at the end of 2017 at the earliest, but probably early-mid 2018

EDKICK2902d ago

Unless Elder Scrolls VI is being developed by another studio (ie Obsidian with New Vegas) there is absolutely no way we see it in 2017 are you joking? Just think about the timeline for a minute Skyrim came out Nov 11, 2011 preliminary Fallout 4 development started in 2009 with most of Bethesda Game Studios working on Skyrim. Development for Fallout 4 only started into major development after Skyrim so early 2012 when most of Bethesda GS moved to Fallout 4 with some working on Skyrim DLC once Skyrim DLC was completed all of Bethesda GS was on Fallout 4 until they started Skyrim Special Edition. I love Elder Scrolls and I can't wait for the next one but you have to imagine Bethesda just recently started focusing all of their attention and resources on Elder Scrolls VI. With insight from Bethesda on Fallout 4 development Fallout 4 was in that period from sometime in 2012 til it's release in late 2015 that's atleast 3years and people complained Fallout 4 wasn't different enough and they again have been working on Skyrim Special Edition. So Elder Scrolls VI is probably a holiday 2019 or 2020 game at least.

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starrman19852902d ago

It should be free for anyone with the digital game+dlc on the MS/Sony store for sure!

Dragonking0072902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

Never came to psn digitally so obviously cant be free, ill gladly be trading in fallout 4 and couple other games to reduce the price.

starrman19852902d ago

My mistake, I didn't know that.

InTheZoneAC2902d ago

trading in? people do that?

souldestroyer142902d ago

I'm sure they can just go by the dlc then because I'm sure no one bought the dlc without owning the game

Artemidorus2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

Lol pay up for being a console owner.

Seriously the gaming industry is pure capitalism at it's finest right now. Bring back the days people cared and did it on a small budget with a story to tell.

No Man's Sky is the only one to date in my opinion that will provide full support and serious content.

nowitzki20042902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

@Starrman

What other remastered games were free if you owned the original?

@Art

"No Man's Sky is the only one to date in my opinion that will provide full support and serious content"

When have you played No Mans Sky?

Artemidorus2902d ago

They have stated no DLC and full support. Take that you greedy companies.

Ravenor2902d ago

"Full support? Meaning what? Bugs will be patched? Well gee, thanks. No Mans Sky is a unique thing and the size and scope of it doesn't lend itself to DLC. Something like Fallout or ES? Of course that's ripe for self contained stories and content later down the line.

No one has a gun to your head, no one is forcing you to buy DLC. Think it should have been in the final game? Don't buy the game at all, publishers and developers owe you nothing.

Budobear2902d ago

Erm there have been quite a few on the PS store. Flow, Flower, Thomas was alone, Stealth Inc, Fez, Journey. I'm sure there are others but I think I may get a bit confused with the updates and crossway ones.

starrman19852902d ago

@nowitzki2004

None, but they are doing a free update to PC owners who have purchased the game+dlc (and generally speaking that is cheaper) it would only seem fair to honour the console players with the same luxury.

A few have done cheaper versions if you have the original which is a nice touch, I think Minecraft and Dishonoured did that.

Pixelart2902d ago (Edited 2902d ago )

All of them because BC was a thing..yeah.. remember that ?

Artemidorus2902d ago

Ravenor you won't be paying for extra content. No super mega dlcs no season passes.

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Nineball21122902d ago

"Seriously the gaming industry is pure capitalism at it's finest right now"

Nothing wrong with that. Capitalism = an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

You don't like the price? Don't buy it. I know I won't for $60. They will either lower the price or lose sales. It's their choice. They own the game. If enough people buy it (the market), then they (Bethesda) might do this again in the future. If enough people don't buy it, then maybe they won't. It's called the free market and that's exactly how it should work.

I rarely play the same games twice anyways, so I might rent this game, but I am not going to buy it.

warriorcase2902d ago

"Seriously the gaming industry is pure capitalism at it's finest right now"

..of course it is. Its a business and they are designed to make money to grow and support that staff who work for them and their families. Some are just overly greedy.

Pixelart2902d ago

Nothing wrong with Capitalism. If you fools going keep buying.. they are going keep selling. Pretty simple.

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ARK: Survival Ascended Premium Mods on Consoles Q&A - By 2030, Time Spent on UGC Will Be Way Bigger

ARK: Survival Ascended has introduced Premium Mods on consoles. Wccftech talked to Studio Wildcard and their partner Overwolf about the rising importance of user-generated content, especially for live service games.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

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just_looken6d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty6d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken5d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty5d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken5d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0075d ago (Edited 5d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken5d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

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@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto5d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer5d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek5d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken5d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie5d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12086d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast6d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit6d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export6d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2036d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai7d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H97d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1017d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H97d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion7d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_927d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19727d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing697d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard7d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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