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Skyrim Remastered: Pete Hines Explains Why The Game Won’t Be Free For Existing Console Players

Bethesda won some major brownie points when they announced that The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim would be remastered and made available later this year… but that it would be absolutely free for PC players who already own the game and its DLC.

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Mr-Dude2887d ago

I am not paying full price again for a 5 year old game, especially not a Bethesda game. Will be used then or a sale

Eidolon2887d ago

Game will drop to half price within a couple months. $60 is ridiculous when they're even mentioning the high-res packs that USERS have created.

Forum_Pirate2886d ago

What are you talking about?

That's the reason they aren't charging PC players. It's a game we already own and DLC we already own on a system we already own with high res textures we already have and mod support we already have. If they tried charging PC players money they'd be laughed at. It would be like releasing The Last of Us remastered on the PS3. Nobody is buying that, for any amount of money.

Meanwhile, porting the game to PS4 and Xbone requires adapting the game to completely new architectures and getting it optimized for completely new hardware. Given that Bethedas huge games already have tons of optimization issues, that's no small task. Most certainly more work than Dishonored. not to mention adding mod support.

Also because they can on console because you don't have an option.

TheCommentator2886d ago

You forget, Forum, that Bethesda got Skyrim up and running on XB1 and PS4 while beginning to work on Fallout 4 as a test of how the engine performed. That means that the work was done already, and people who bought Fallout 4 paid for Skyrim's remastering costs already. Full price for this game is an outrage. $30 at most and even that is pushing it.

Forum_Pirate2886d ago

That's like, not true. People who paid for Fallout 4 paid for fallout 4 and the 7 years of development for fallout 4. If Bethesda wants to monitize their efforts getting Skyrim running on the new consoles and whatever upgrades they attached to it, there is nothing wrong with that.

$30? The Legendary Edition on Steam is $40, without the extra work of the port or the upgrades. Dream on.

TheCommentator2886d ago

Right, Forum, but they can give it away for free to PC owners so if you buy the Legendary edition for $40 you get the upgraded edition with it. Then they sell it for $60 on consoles??? Why not $40? Since they aren't giving it away for free to 360/PS3 owners who already bought everything, people who put just as much money into the game as PC owners did get royally screwed. That's why it should be $30 on consoles at most.

TBH, this is just one more reason why MS has the right strategy in deciding to make the Xbox more like a PC in terms of software compatibility. If I were playing Skyrim 360 on my XB1, for example, they could just give me the upgrades for free too.

Forum_Pirate2886d ago

You seem to have missed the part where they're porting it to an entirely new platform, re-optomizing it and adding things other than the lighting upgrade that you didn't already have access to.

You aren't getting screwed. If you are, you screwed yourself by buying it on a platform where that kind of work is necessary to get it running. Them charging for that work is not unfair or screwing you over.

Why should it be *cheaper* on consoles, when they had to put in more work *because* of consoles? You seem to think that an inferior version of an otherwise identical product on the same platform is like, a bonus somehow. It's isn't. For people who have the legenday edition it's a minor upgrade and nothing more, maybe an excuse to play again. For people who just buy the special edition the old one is irrelevant because the new one is identical but with better lighting. These are not true of the console version. Just the draw distance/framerate that even begin to rival the PC version will be a major improvement, also, again, mod support.

That's why people game on PCs in the first place. We don't have generations. If you bought a console because it's easy or because that's what your friends have, which are both perfectly valid reasons, it's still your fualt when stuff like this happens and you pay extra.

Kingthrash3602886d ago

I never played skyrim. So this is awsome for me!......
...wait. ....full price????
Wtf this game was out before circuit city closed down! Guess I'll wait for the price drop to reach 29.99 or less anything over that is just some bs.

souldestroyer142886d ago

"That's the reason they aren't charging PC players. It's a game we already own and DLC we already own on a system we already own with high res textures we already have and mod support we already have."

If it's something you already own then why is it even a new game? Because it isn't the same game it's on an updated engine. If it was just higher resolution textures it would simply be an update to the original game.

Forum_Pirate2886d ago

Yeah, see, being on an updated engine doesn't mean we don't already have it. The lighting will be better. whoopty doo. They'd never sell it to PC players for any amount of money based on that alone.

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gameseveryday2887d ago

I think you have a fair point. A full price point for a 5 year old game is kind of unfair. This should have been $40 at most.

Yi-Long2886d ago (Edited 2886d ago )

Myeah, it seems a bit high, but on the other hand it's a well-loved fantastic game offering hundreds of hours of gameplay.

I can understand why they're asking 60 bucks for it, but I'm sure many (MANY) people will refrain from buying it until it hits the 30$ or less mark.

I haven't played the game yet so if they haven't done a poor job I'll certainly pick it up, but I will wait for a big price-drop as well.

freshslicepizza2886d ago (Edited 2886d ago )

this is why i am so supportive of the new direction console gaming is headed. instead of re-releasing games like the last of us and charging all over again. systems like the ps4 neo will hopefully solve that issue. same with the xbox, you buy an xbox scorpio and you can play the same game again but now in 4k.

@Mr-Dude
"Although you have a point about BC. Xbox users have to pay the same price for Skyrim as Playstation users. This is not about The Last Of Us, but Skyrim. Besides TLOU remasterd was not fully priced..."

where did i specifically say this is only about xbox? i seaid moving forward meaning ps4 neo and scorpio and also hoping the next xbox and the ps5 will also carry on with keeping gamers compatable with their old software.

Mr-Dude2886d ago (Edited 2886d ago )

Although you have a point about BC. Xbox users have to pay the same price for Skyrim as Playstation users. This is not about The Last Of Us, but Skyrim. Besides TLOU remasterd was not fully priced...

Deadpooled2886d ago (Edited 2886d ago )

Looking around online retailers in the UK the pre-order prices are lower than full price at sub £35 (Base PS4/XB1 versions £32.69 http://www.base.com/buy/pro...

Pixelart2886d ago

Thought you console folk would be used to it by now.

shauzy2886d ago

well, nobody said that about call of duty

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Herbalistic2887d ago

I like the new additions but i'm not going to pay 60 dollars.I'll wait for a price drop down the road.

Eidolon2887d ago (Edited 2887d ago )

$20-30 is my limit. It's not a new game, so they shouldn't be charging a new game price.

beerzombie2887d ago (Edited 2887d ago )

Ya I'll wait a buy and new game for sixy dollars on a rehash money grab. They could have just bc the game with mods.

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Iberius2887d ago (Edited 2887d ago )

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that money is the answer.

While people are complaining about this anyone have any bets on when the next Elder Scrolls game will release? I'm betting 2020.

Movefasta19932887d ago

2017/2018, tops.They saw them fallout 4 sales,they want more!

xX1NORM1Xx2887d ago

Going by the bethesda releases since F3 its gonna be 2018 at the earliest 2019 at the latest

InTheZoneAC2886d ago

i would say an elder scrolls game at the end of 2017 at the earliest, but probably early-mid 2018

EDKICK2886d ago

Unless Elder Scrolls VI is being developed by another studio (ie Obsidian with New Vegas) there is absolutely no way we see it in 2017 are you joking? Just think about the timeline for a minute Skyrim came out Nov 11, 2011 preliminary Fallout 4 development started in 2009 with most of Bethesda Game Studios working on Skyrim. Development for Fallout 4 only started into major development after Skyrim so early 2012 when most of Bethesda GS moved to Fallout 4 with some working on Skyrim DLC once Skyrim DLC was completed all of Bethesda GS was on Fallout 4 until they started Skyrim Special Edition. I love Elder Scrolls and I can't wait for the next one but you have to imagine Bethesda just recently started focusing all of their attention and resources on Elder Scrolls VI. With insight from Bethesda on Fallout 4 development Fallout 4 was in that period from sometime in 2012 til it's release in late 2015 that's atleast 3years and people complained Fallout 4 wasn't different enough and they again have been working on Skyrim Special Edition. So Elder Scrolls VI is probably a holiday 2019 or 2020 game at least.

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starrman19852887d ago

It should be free for anyone with the digital game+dlc on the MS/Sony store for sure!

Dragonking0072887d ago (Edited 2887d ago )

Never came to psn digitally so obviously cant be free, ill gladly be trading in fallout 4 and couple other games to reduce the price.

starrman19852886d ago

My mistake, I didn't know that.

InTheZoneAC2886d ago

trading in? people do that?

souldestroyer142886d ago

I'm sure they can just go by the dlc then because I'm sure no one bought the dlc without owning the game

Artemidorus2887d ago (Edited 2887d ago )

Lol pay up for being a console owner.

Seriously the gaming industry is pure capitalism at it's finest right now. Bring back the days people cared and did it on a small budget with a story to tell.

No Man's Sky is the only one to date in my opinion that will provide full support and serious content.

nowitzki20042887d ago (Edited 2887d ago )

@Starrman

What other remastered games were free if you owned the original?

@Art

"No Man's Sky is the only one to date in my opinion that will provide full support and serious content"

When have you played No Mans Sky?

Artemidorus2887d ago

They have stated no DLC and full support. Take that you greedy companies.

Ravenor2887d ago

"Full support? Meaning what? Bugs will be patched? Well gee, thanks. No Mans Sky is a unique thing and the size and scope of it doesn't lend itself to DLC. Something like Fallout or ES? Of course that's ripe for self contained stories and content later down the line.

No one has a gun to your head, no one is forcing you to buy DLC. Think it should have been in the final game? Don't buy the game at all, publishers and developers owe you nothing.

Budobear2887d ago

Erm there have been quite a few on the PS store. Flow, Flower, Thomas was alone, Stealth Inc, Fez, Journey. I'm sure there are others but I think I may get a bit confused with the updates and crossway ones.

starrman19852886d ago

@nowitzki2004

None, but they are doing a free update to PC owners who have purchased the game+dlc (and generally speaking that is cheaper) it would only seem fair to honour the console players with the same luxury.

A few have done cheaper versions if you have the original which is a nice touch, I think Minecraft and Dishonoured did that.

Pixelart2886d ago (Edited 2886d ago )

All of them because BC was a thing..yeah.. remember that ?

Artemidorus2886d ago

Ravenor you won't be paying for extra content. No super mega dlcs no season passes.

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Nineball21122887d ago

"Seriously the gaming industry is pure capitalism at it's finest right now"

Nothing wrong with that. Capitalism = an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

You don't like the price? Don't buy it. I know I won't for $60. They will either lower the price or lose sales. It's their choice. They own the game. If enough people buy it (the market), then they (Bethesda) might do this again in the future. If enough people don't buy it, then maybe they won't. It's called the free market and that's exactly how it should work.

I rarely play the same games twice anyways, so I might rent this game, but I am not going to buy it.

warriorcase2887d ago

"Seriously the gaming industry is pure capitalism at it's finest right now"

..of course it is. Its a business and they are designed to make money to grow and support that staff who work for them and their families. Some are just overly greedy.

Pixelart2886d ago

Nothing wrong with Capitalism. If you fools going keep buying.. they are going keep selling. Pretty simple.

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XCOM's Jake Solomon Q&A - Building a Narrative-Driven Life Sim Game at Midsummer Studios

XCOM and Marvel's Midnight Suns director Jake Solomon has founded a new studio to make a life sim game. Here's a new interview with him.

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The Big Inworld AI Q&A - 'Everyone in Gaming Sees the Potential of Generative AI'

Wccftech interviewed Nathan Yu from Inworld AI to discuss the dynamic NPC tech's applications to games as well as potential issues like costs.

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Xbox President Sarah Bond's Bloomberg Interview Is Corporate Fakery At Its Best

Saad from eXputer: "After Arkane Austin & Tango were shutdown, Xbox President Sarah Bond spoke with Bloomberg in what I believe to be utter corporate fakery."

gold_drake2d ago

im not really surprised by that, shes always been more a "let me talk about something else than what u want to know" kinda gal

Cacabunga1d 17h ago

If what they are doing is that good, what’s the point of hiding the true story?

anast1d 21h ago

She's a caricature of the shareholders.

PRIMORDUS1d 19h ago

"Shareholders" I call them cancer, they are already rich to begin with but need more and more. It's like a disease, with no cure.

__y2jb1d 3h ago

If you have a pension then you are likely to be a shareholder in these big tech companies yourself. To demonize them as 'heartless rich people' shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

anast1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

@Y2

Of course, it isn't about that. You are attempting to set up a self-righteous strawman to stir up some kind of ignorant mob mentality.

And by the way, most everyone is a touch heartless or we wouldn't be able to consume the products we do knowing very well how they are made. People have to be this way because of self-preservation and convenience.

__y2jb23h ago

@anast please explain to me how what i said is self righteous or a strawman. I simply pointed out that categorizing all shareholders as cancer is ridiculous.

Leeroyw1d 17h ago

I own shares in game companies. I'm not anything near a major share holder. I just want them to make good games and be successful because of that. I think it's the senior management that's the problem. They are the ones that should be making it clear to the shareholders what creates growth and ensures a future of their business. Not this weasle words garbage that she did on the interview. It was horrific. I don't know a shareholder that would be happy with any of them for this.

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Same and I'm not rich by any stretch like most people's I'm just trying to keep my head above water these days most company's shareholders are made up of everyday people it's amazing how companies think we want something but the reality is we don't.

Disney are probably the worse at the moment it's shareholders voted on ending a lot of the crap and outing the current execs the execs turned around and said no we disagree with the shareholder vote

PRIMORDUS1d 11h ago

I meant at the rich fucks who have millions in the bank already. They are making so much per year, that if they don't make what they are expecting they go into a panic, when in reality it will not even hurt them at all. Those are greedy assholes.

anast1d 2h ago

"you have a pension then you are likely to be a shareholder"

Pensioners don't make any decisions about anything. Obviously that is not what this is about.

CrimsonWing691d 21h ago

Yea, it was and it’s insulting that they think we’re dumb enough to fall for this. Look, the truth was you took a gamble on these studios and while they released some games to critical praise and great reception they just aren’t bringing in a ROI. Be transparent, you’re not a politician.

Just tell everyone you spend money on projects big and small and when money isn’t being made you go over the potential of revenue a studio can bring in vs those that can’t and make the hard decision to chop them.

She says this whole thing about “success” doesn’t fit one meaning for each studio. Well yea, a small budget production isn’t going to expect to sell the same as a large budget production.

One thing I wish they did though was let Tango be an independent studio.

TheGamingHounds1d 20h ago

disheartening to see no regard for the human cost of business anymore
the bad decisions and judgements of these CEOs severely impact the frontliners
these fake responses are just salt on wounds

RoadRacer1d 20h ago

imagine havin the audacity to say "we need more games like hifi rush" right after closing the studio that made it lol
followin up with this show of "deflecting every question" was in poor taste

StormSnooper1d 17h ago

MS is all about lip service.

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