There's No Place For DOOM In Today's Landscape Of Video Games

Gaming Central says, "DOOM is a watered down experience meant to appeal to the console player. The once grand-daddy of First Person Shooters is now looking to learn from modern shooters."

[equal_youth]

Yeah, maybe in terms of the multiplayer but let's not forget what an awesome single player game wolfenstein the new order was. It might fall flat compared to UT or Quake but i bet the single player will be pure madness.

[Krussail]

Same here, even I am cautiously hopeful for the campaign. However, i really was looking forward to a AAA arena shooter for consoles. I guess I'll be waiting for Overwatch,

[kraenk12]

Better check Cliffy B's new game!

[Vegamyster]

@kraenk12

Lawbreakers isn't on consoles, it's a PC exclusive.

[Erik7357]

Lawbreakers but it's PC only

[LackTrue4K]

The multiplayer is shallow, it's a day one for me. I'm only interested in the story/main game.

[ravinash]

I'm getting it for the single player campaign as well.
As for the MP, there has been a lot of people making up their mind about a beta.... I'm at least waiting till the full game comes out before saying if it's going to be crap or not.

[ManAnimalX]

@equal_youth

"but i bet the single player will be pure madness."

hmm, it may be "madness" as you say but madness doesn't mean "a good or great campaign", a good or great story driven campaign", if this Doom had ANY CHANCE of being a noteworthy campaign it would have been marketed as such.

It will appeal to some just like any game, but it will not be viewed as a good campaign, far from it, in fact I imagine it will be viewed as a not so good campaign, with a not even worthy of mentioning story campaign.

[equal_youth]

The reveal had a very big Focus on the campaign and people freaked out over it.
I still have a good feeling since Bethesda knows how to do Singleplayer.

[DLConspiracy]

I agree but I still like the MP anyway.

[Vegamyster]

I'm a little more cautious, ID Software's last new game was Rage, it wasn't a bad game but it felt kinda flat.

[Fin_The_Human]

I don't know man l, I know Doom is the grand daddy of the FPS but why does it look and feel so much like Gears and Halo?

The graphics also have this plastic shiny look then which makes you feel like you ate playing with toys instead of humans.

[prankster101]

May is going to be madness with Uncharted 4 and Doom both coming out, Glad Mirrors Edge got delayed.

And yes, Wolfenstein was unbelievably good - but let's remember that it was Machine Games behind the campaign, and they have a reputation for single player campaigns. iD however don't, and Rage wasn't exactly the best game on the planet - even if it was quite fun.

[Genuine-User]

I loved the last beta. Is there no place for gamers with taste like mine? :(

[Gitgud]

I don't understand why people are hating on the game. I enjoyed the beta, might even get the game too.

[Genuine-User]

I think most haters might just be old school fans. I've heard some people complain about the lack of horizontol-only camera mode.

[ravinash]

Some people want it to play exactly like how they remember the old Doom.
Others want it to go more modern (Probably mean COD style).
Fact is, a name like Doom comes with a lot of baggage, and you'll never make everyone happy.

[Genuine-User]

Precisely.

[CoDsuperstar]

Most old school gamers dont have a problem with change contrary to popular belief. the problem with the doom multiplayer was that it just wasn't good. even if it was a new IP it still wouldn't be a good game.

[DLConspiracy]

Were people this upset with Doom 3? I can't remember. This one seems closer to the original than 3 was.

It's weird. I was only really looking forward to the campaign. Then I played the alpha, closed beta and open beta MP. I'm now excited for both. Not only did I enjoy the MP but ever since I played it. Everything else feels slow and boring in comparison. It seems that only the PC crowd is disappointed. Which sucks to hear but I guess when you have access to tons of older games you don't need to play it. People need to stop putting this game in their perfect little box not allowing it to grow.

[equal_youth]

Yeah i remember doom3 had more of a survival horror touch to it. I remember people expected something else at this time as well. But now Doom goes way more back to it's roots with all this hord like enemy waves.

[DLConspiracy]

@equal

Yeah I vaguely remember some complaints but now I hear mostly positive from people about it. It was definitely different from the original. Wayyyyyy more so than this game is seemingly. I'm looking forward to jumping back in and so are a lot of my frienda. So works out for me. Haha.

[Genuine-User]

I don't remember. It's been about 13 years since I first saw the game. That said, it was an absolute visual treat for its time.

[DLConspiracy]

@genuine

Yeah they were using a new engine when that released. It was definitely visually pleasing. It was intense I enjoyed it. A little frustrating sometimes too. Can't wait to jump in again.

[wellard]

I remember people complaining that it was too dark. I for one enjoyed doom 3, if I recall I even treated myself to a new gaming mouse just for it.

[Paytaa]

I honestly loved the Alpha and Beta. I had fun with it and yeah maybe it isn't a "pure" arena shooter by definition but it sure feels old school in a lot of ways.

The more I played, the more I wanted to just buy it already.

[Genuine-User]

It felt like Quake in the best possible way. It was quite refreshing to play something old-school with a modern touch.

[warriors_13]

it's a dumbed down, generic modern shooter. it's made exactly for you.

[Genuine-User]

What have they dumbed down?

Do you want to rush towards your favourite weapon in the beginning of every match?

[SharnOfTheDEAD]

Yeah I always remember Doom for it's RPG mechanics and being a fully fledged tactical style shooter where you had to think about each encounter rather than just running around shooting stuff.... oh wait...

[warriors_13]

if you need to ask it already proves you know nothing and you are a casual. exactly why it's made for you.

everything that took skill is gone. map knowledge, item timing, map control, its near impossible to miss with the slow movement, they give you wall hacks, the "rail gun" aim cursor covers half the damn screen.

there's a reason why guys like thresh would win every doom match. because they were the best at what they did. when games were more underground and didn't need to cater to the masses the way gaming is popular now. now developers need to even the playing field so the casuals don't get destroyed and make the game accessible for new users.

[hardcorehenry]

i had no expectations for it and enjoyed it immensely. I have been playing doom since it first landed on PC but not so deluded to think we would be getting a perfectly traditional shooter. Its 2016!

[Dipper]

So you don't want Doom to be a generic shooter so it should be like modern shooters, which are all generic?

Wut?

[ZombieGamerMan]

There's no place for your stupidity on the planet but we haven't deported your ass to mars so leave Doom alone

[_LarZen_]

Who approves all the bullshit articles?

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I loved the beta and I'm not even big on multiplayer. I've had this game paid off since last month for PS4 and can't wait. I'm getting this and Uncharted 4 The same day but fully intend on playing this first :3

[Yetter]

I was underwhelmed with the Beta. Only played about 3 matches and didn't have much desire to play more

[ManAnimalX]

What story?, the campaign?, based on what time line? Doom 1?, Im trying to figure out why someone would think the campaign is going to be noteworthy or any good. This Doom's campaign is an afterthought, has been an afterthought, and in no way shape or form has anything to do with Doom 3, which had a full fledged Story and Campaign.

This Doom has been marketed as a remaster of sorts of Doom 1, and multiplayer has been front in center with marketing, now that the multiplayer has been shown to be shallow, uninspired, and just average, some are saying "Well there's always the campaign, maybe it will be good".

Excuse me? based in what?, and why would someone think the campaign could save this Doom game when its been the Multiplayer which has been the focus and marketed as Doom's strong point. why?

The campaign is not going to be anything redeeming in my opinion, it may in up being average, which will amount to this Doom ultimately being seen as "average" or "mediocre". And seen commercially as a failure.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Doom has always been about the campaign and I've been a fan for 22 years. It did invent the entire deathmatch concept though so I'll give it that.

[ManAnimalX]

a campaign also is judged on the Story, there has been little to nothing on the campaigns story, only videos of over the top blood and gore, no character focus, no voice actor interviews etc, the campaign is an afterthought.

Doom 3 had a wonderful story , this Doom's story is a mystery, and I imagine because it was never the focus and will amount to something in between convoluted and dismissive.

If Doom has always been about the campaign, in my opinion this alteration of Doom will not continue or carry on that legacy very strongly.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

You have no idea what you're talking about lol

[ManAnimalX]

the sales plus the overall gaming review scores will determine if I know what i'm talking about or not. We'll all find out soon enough.

[Vanfernal]

Have you ever actually played Doom? And we're not talking the modern one, we're talking the classic. "Campaign" doesn't mean story. It just refers to the single player experience. And Doom basically had zero story. You're some military dude, a portal to hell opened up in the moons of Mars. Go! It was all about the gameplay, finding secret rooms and blowing the crap out of everything. They are trying to go back to their roots. So people expecting something "deep" are most likely going to be disappointed. I'm actually rooting for this game and hope it's as fun as the classic.

[DLConspiracy]

I love how because I enjoyed the beta that I'm lumped into a clueless category of gamers who enjoy all the boring generic shooters. I've been a gamer for over 3 decades. Now suddenly I don't know what a good game is and I only follow the herd. Wtf.

I guess the doom surrounding Doom is expected. These stupid DOOM Doom articles are getting old really quick. Basing their entire opinion on 1/20th of the entire game.

[SharnOfTheDEAD]

Gotta get website revenue somehow, I think a lot of the hate is pathetic as well, from the tiny dose of the beta I really enjoyed it, the campaign looks like a non stop action fest and the fact you can create your own modes etc in the editor what is there to moan about? Seems to be this self entitlement with some gamers these days.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

This game has an identity issue. It was marketed as an old-school arena shooter. The game simply isn't, people expected an old school shooter. But instead they got a game that mixes in elements from call of duty and evolve, looks like halo and doesn't resemble the original Doom much in design. People wanted an old school arena shooter, instead they got an imbalanced multiplayer.

[kraenk12]

Doom never was a multiplayer game WTF?!

Edit: thx for correcting me...still, it was most popular fir its singleplayer and that's what I look forward to with the new game.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

It popularized deathmatch.

[kraenk12]

@Sciurus

Oh wow, didn't even know this. Thanks for telling me. We didn't have internet back in Germany back then. I remember Quake as the pioneer here.

[Ogygian]

Old school arena shooters are outdated these days. I used to play plenty of UT3 and Quake back in the day, but gameplay has moved on since then.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

They aren't outdated it just everyone wants their handheld in shooters nowadays. Players don't want to work/fight for pickup weapons, control maps and have to earn their kills. Instead people want weapons given to them on platter, have easy kills (and complain when they die in a split second) and perks to give them an advantage.
Unreal Tournament is growing on PC again, Halo 5 returned to it's arena roots and has been holding players better than Reach and 4. Also people are excited for Gears of War 4 another arena shooter. The arena shooters are starting to resurge and Doom had the potential to be an anchor for the return of Old-school arena shooters alongside Unreal Tournament (2016); but instead they slapped in perks and poorly balanced loadouts.

[fanboysmackdown]

There's no place for idiotic articles like this one and I, like others will be picking this up for the campaign anyhoo.

[UziSuicide]

I found it all a bit safe, which made it a little boring for me. Weak weapons and set load outs isn't what I was expecting, so maybe fine for people new to id shooters with no expectations.

[ManAnimalX]

You nailed it on the head. Exactly.

[kraenk12]

Seriously, who approves this trash?!

[Ogygian]

The problem with this game is that it seems too nostalgic, and not in the "reviving forgotten gems from the past" way, like Undertale, but in the "outdated" way. Doom was a great game for its time, but gameplay has advanced since then, and we haven't really lost anything. Pong was great when it first came out (I suppose), but a 3D AAA remake of Pong is not going to sell millions.

Nostalgia can be a good thing. But sometimes, it prevents us from being able to understand the advancements that have been made in gameplay over the years.

[TyrantSoul]

I swear people are confusing Quakes multi-player to Dooms.Quake was a fast mental multi-player experience,Doom was a corridor shooter where you kills demons with a shotgun :)

The day this industry has no place for Doom is a sad day for the industry,In my opinion there will always be a place for Doom.For the author of this article not so much.

So N4G when are you changing your name to Click Bait 4 Gamers or CB4G.The quality of articles getting approved these days are shocking.

[ONESHOTV2]

no their is room console owners may not find it as fun or enjoyable but as a pc gamer i can see myself putting a good amount of time in a arena shooter that's if they fixed all the crap the community asked them to to fix. if it's not fixed by release then i dont see myself paying 60$ for a game has so many problems. the new unreal is not too bad it's coming along very good overwatch is good as well.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

A man needs an FPS with no 2 weapon limit, a fast moving character, no regen health, and no reloading. The shooters of today care too much about realism. Time for THIS! It's filling a void that has been empty for 15 years save Resistance 3.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I loved Resistance 3. Best of the series in my opinion and had a fantastic story as well!

[rocketpanda]

Let the market speak when the game gets released. Making such objective statements have no place on which shooter should be released before the final product.

[annoyedgamer]

If all they do is steal Halo 2 multiplayer I would be happy. Its not like Halo exists in its proper form anymore anyways.

[Tzuno]

I am only interested in Single palyer, MP looks boring, i better play quake 2 mp and have more fun.

[Fist4achin]

I thought the article was a bit harsh. I didn't play the beta, but I think that most games now just borrow ideas from other games to try to put together a smooth formula as far as gameplay goes. I will still be giving this a try. It can't be the hot mess that Duke Nukes was.

[PendingDoom]

This is sad when you judge a Single player game like Doom on its multiplayer beta. Wolfenstein got better reviews and it's campaign was short. Gamers are going brain dead from sitting too close to the screen....

[Yui_Suzumiya]

Actually it has a longer campaign than any linear FPS the last 10 years.. and a fantastic one at that.. it's probably the most fun I've had on my PS4 so far :3

[trywizardo]

i thought that's an armor in halo xD

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

F*ck what yall journalist say.... im still buying it
#stopthehateongamesf*ckers

[slavish0]

I wish it had co=op

[Vanfernal]

I don't know. I think a lot of people have their franchises mixed. Altough Doom is one of the pioneers of fps mp, it was never a huge thing. Back in the day you would have some very dedicated people who actually had Internet set up servers to play. Other would make lan parties. But it was a very rudimentary thing. It was QUAKE that revolutionized fps mp and kicked it off to what it has eventually become. Doom was always about running through hallways and shooting the crap out of hordes of demons. People expecting an all out arena shooter are probably getting it mixed up with Quake or assuming they are really the same franchise.

[Kallisti]

Dude can say whatever he wants but I haven't been looking forward to a new FPS like this since Bioshock Infinite, DOOM is a day one buy for me.

[ape007]

the single player will be AMAZING, i loved the beta, it's old school meets new school

[ape007]

those "new" gamers of today are making me sick, they bash amazing inspired old school games and they love their life is strange and all the walking sim BS.......what the hell is wrong with some people

[zb1ftw777]

I enjoyed the beta.

Jump on, blast some people, jump off.

However, just like any game, it needs to have a decent following to find people to play with.

That's why I'm waiting for reviews.

[galmi]

Talk for yourself, I wanna play doom

[Surt]

What's this? The 15 who still play quake are upset? My how horrid! (heh) So they want what to make DOOM have the same pathetic user base as quake or unreal. Literally it's embarrassing.

It's a compromise. And a good one to rebuild a long defunct FPS. With RPG/FPS now the thing, there is no place for twitch shooters. Hence why the compromise. And yes it is more catering to the console crowd. That's a positive, not a negative. But that is something that long been happening. You wonder why? Just look at all the bleeding nonsense that happens on FPS on rigs. (aimbots, hacking)

Modes can always be added in mp. But you build up interest, and maybe we can get games like tribes, and sector 8, common place in the FPS world. Away from sharing the same space of care bears. God think about the less whining of "end content is only being made for PVP!)

[jmc8888]

Looking forward to both single player and multiplayer.

I also think it's a bit premature for people to say it's shallow. They made certain decisions that pissed off some fans, but ultimately it's still a fun time if you can get over your preconceptions.

The beta only showcased two maps and two modes. We're going to get more.

Then we have the single player portion of the game.

Overall I'm just going to have fun with the game.

[jmc8888]

Oh also, at least on the PC version there wil be a thing called snapmap which I'll quote...

"SnapMap - limitless gameplay potential

Build your own map with a unique yet easy-to-use tool. Edit your favorite location to add more thrill to the game. Not enough? New game modes and the possibility to change game logic provides you with endless gameplay possibilities. Don’t forget to share your map with players worldwide!"

So there's going to be some great variety in maps, modes, etc.

[Surt]

THIS! ^^^^ Man I myself won't touch it on my rig, but that's cause went to consoles for my FPS Fix. But I can still agree with everything said here.

[MasterD919]

It would be nice if for once I could see an article that didn't say Doom was doomed because of the multiplayer hate. I get it, it's not your thing, nor mine. But this game's campaign is the real Doom experience. Wait until the final product is out before you stick a fork in the game.