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The Division's Potential, A Serious Hit or Expensive Miss? | Game N Respawn Podcast

David and Rossco have both been really looking forward to The Division and just as the game launches they Podcast on their hopes and expectations of the game. But given the development time and potential promised, they are both cautious about the final product.

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wakeNbake3016d ago

My whole friends list was playing it yesterday, I havent seen a new IP this successful since Destiny.

detroitmademe3016d ago

I think this game will be a commercial success but will have Luke warm reviews. I personally bought it and would give it 7/10.Ithink it's a solid game. It kinda puts me in the same place that destiny, watch dogs and battlefront did. Another mediocre game to add to the pile. I've just accepted that that's just how this generation is gonna be.

Goldby3016d ago

its been 1 day man, you couldn't have possibly beaten the game by now, theres alot of stuff that only get activated (see what i did there - trophy unlocked)once you hit the level cap.

IanTH3016d ago

This is a rare game to me in that I really enjoy it right now, but I can also see other people not being enthralled with it.

Some don't like the conflicting feel of the "game-y" shooting in a realistic game. If you normally like shooters, this might not be shooter-y enough for you. If you're an RPG guy, it might be a little too RPG-lite (though so far I'm pleasantly surprised with what is there). I like the overall game more than Destiny so far, but the actual shooting mechanics in Destiny are still the best-of-the-best.

Curious to see how skills and gear sets/abilities open up as the game goes on.

detroitmademe3016d ago (Edited 3016d ago )

I love how balanced the gun play feels. The way the damage is dealt combined with the a.I. being smart enough to move around makes for an enjoyable challenge that has kept me immersed in the game so far. GTA could learn something from this as I'd still say it's one of the best overall multiplayer games this gen and the last, but the gun play is a disgrace , mediocre at best.

BLKxSEPTEMBER3016d ago

Destiny and The Division can coexistence. They have similarities but not enough to make them essentially the same game. For a more realistic experience then obviously go with Division. If you want crazy weapons in first person then obviously go with Destiny. If Destiny come with major content soon I will play both but as of now The Division has my attention. I do think The Division has a much better RPG lite system though. It's also much more challenging then Destiny. You're not going to just run past enemies (at least on hard mode) like you can on Destiny. I'd give The Division a 8/10 so far based on what I've played. Great game.

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No Man's Sky Adrift Expedition Trailer

Introducing..No Man's Sky: Adrift.A lot has changed in the years since No Man’s Sky released.

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No Man's Sky Is Easily One Of Gaming's Greatest Comeback Stories

Despite No Man Sky's rocky launch, Hello Games managed to turn it into one of the best space exploration RPGs out there.

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darksky36d ago

HG could have stopped after making 3-4 updates and the debt would have been paid to those why are crying about paying full price. However, they have continously provided free updates for the last 6-7 years. No other developer in hostory has ever done this and probably never will.
There are many AAA games that disappointed but the devs normally move on or close the studio rather than fix the game.

-Foxtrot37d ago

I hate the whole concept of "comeback story" because at the end of the day it doesn't remove the core issue we had in the first place, that we were lied to, it was disappointing and it launched with bare content to what was promised for years.

Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch but for me if you launch in a terrible state then you had your chance. I can applaud you for what you've done after but at the end of the day there's not much of a choice since most gamers would blank your next product if you ditched your last game so fast, it's not about repairing the game but spending your time repairing gamers trust before you launch your next product otherwise it would be dead on arrival.

With these stories and the games being updated, the only way is up most of the time so of course it's going to improve the game and feel better over all, getting better and better as time passes. No Mans Sky, Sea of Thieves, Fallout 76 etc but then you have games like Anthem, Suicide Squad, Redfall and The Avengers where the devs just clearly moved on, now if they have another product people won't be as exited for it, I mean hell Guardians of the Galaxy was a great game but because of the Avengers it didn't help its sales since people were obviously still sour at that point.

I still think despite the improvements to games like No Mans Sky and Cyberpunk along with being better now overall the games are still not up there to what was promised and hyped as for years.

If we keep celebrating these “comeback stories” then unfortunately it only strongly supports the concept that these studios / publishers can continue to push half arsed broken products out for the sake of quick sales instead of waiting until they are fully finished. We need to condemn this awful behaviour or sadly we lose all voice and power as consumers.

Sonic188137d ago (Edited 37d ago )

I feel the same way about Cyberpunk 2077. I'm glad you mentioned that. I'm not a fan of comeback stories as well. But No man sky developer was a small indie team compared to CDPR. It's worse when it's coming from a AAA developer

Nacho_Z37d ago

"Any bad game can have a comeback story if it's supported enough after launch"

You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal.

The reason NMS and HG are held in such high esteem and calling them liars is a weak stance is the amount of work they've put into it, for free. They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted.

-Foxtrot37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

They are liars though...

We are not revising history here, I'm sorry but we're not

They built this game up for years and they launched it knowing full well it wasn't up to scratch to what they originally showed off or hyped it up to be.

"They're not chasing a quick buck, they've dedicated their lives over the last few years to giving their fans the game everyone wanted"

And like I said above most of that comes from the fact that if they had just moved on straight away nobody would have supported their next game. They've washed most of that sour taste away after supporting No Mans Sky so now they are doing a new game which more people feel like they can support and get excited for.

Anyway how can you say "You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not" and then make the point that "Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone"

This means that if a small team like this can turn a game around then big AAA games like Suicide Squad, Redfall, Anthem and the like should have been able to do it no problem, oh but that's right they didn't want to put the time or effort into it. They can do it but some people just decide not to.

Blad3runner0036d ago (Edited 36d ago )

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

People paid for the game at launch and got lied to. Now the game is what it SHOULD have been from the start (what people paid for) and we should be happy they aren't charging EXTRA? Its free because people ALREADY paid for the game at launch.

People PAID for what the game is in its current state (what it should have been at launch), not what it was when it released. Charging people AGAIN would result in even more backlash.

anast36d ago

"You make it sound so simple and easy. It's not. After release Hello Games poured countless hours into getting their game closer to what they originally wanted, without charging a penny to anyone. That's not normal."

They already charged for the full price game. All of that work is owed because it was already paid for.

JackBNimble36d ago

Fox ... sure HG made a huge mistake, but they have also done more then any development team that I have seen to fix the problem and go way beyond in supporting the game. And every update has been free, so I don't really get why you are holding on to this grudge.

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milohighclub37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Whatever happened at launch is in the past. By your logic they could have supported it for a year got it to the project they promised then stopped but they didn't. They're still supporting it to this they, they've released more content post than pretty much any game I can think off. More than most MMOs. They didn't have to go this far but they have and don't have any plans of stopping. All for free too.
Yeah they had a shit launch and they've apologised, learned and more than made up for it. I was pissed off at them at launch, but not petty enough to keep slandering them 7 years later.
You have much bigger studios releasing half assed games and fixing it later or even worse not even bothering.

anast36d ago

The DLC costs money. But yeah, people are hanging on to this one longer because of their previous reputation.

TheCaptainKuchiki37d ago

And it doesn't change the fact that the game is a boring procedurally generated environment in which your repeat the same actions over and over again with no real purpose. I hate when they say that the game became good.

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thorstein37d ago

I really enjoyed it at launch and had every trophy by August 2016.

The experience I had is no longer in the game: It was just me and my ship. It was a survival game and the feeling of loneliness in the universe was pervasive. There was no way to ruin too far from your ship and, in an emergency, you grenaded a hole in the ground to survive.

I miss that aspect, but since then, I love what they've done.

Hugodastrevas37d ago

I'd say it's THE definitive comeback story

TheGamingHounds37d ago

Final Fantasy 14 takes that one imho

CrimsonWing6936d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Yep and the way they actually did it where Bahamut destroyed the original FF14 and the realm was “reborn” seals it as the best way to do something like this, lol.

jwillj2k437d ago

Oh great another story about the cleanest shirt in a bin of dirty laundry.

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Latest No Man’s Sky update adds ship customisation, space station overhaul, and more

Orbital update drops today, also bringing with it engine improvements and UI refresh.

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Zeke6876d ago

The game that keeps on giving 🦾🥳✌️

Christopher76d ago

The support they've given this game only makes me more interested in their next game.

Zeke6876d ago

Agree, curious what they are cooking up for that one?!