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Dev: PSVR Will Ship Millions; No Frames Out of Sync Unlike PC VR, No Jittering At All

Megaton Rainfall developer Alfonso del Cerro thinks PSVR will ship millions. He's particularly fond of the reprojection feature, which helps synchronization in a way not found in PC VR (Oculus/Vive).

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Frisky2975d ago

Just waiting for Microsoft to drop their VR headset. Not sure if they even will this E3.

Eonjay2975d ago

Well, if you believe what Phil said to Gamespot.com it sounds like they wont be bringing VR to Xbox One. In his words, only open platforms (here he means Windows 10) are suitable for new tech. He said 'closed' ecosystems like Xbox One and PS4 aren't good for VR. This was the same interview where he said he hopes Sony does well.

Alexious2975d ago

Well, but they said Xbox One might get HoloLens titles, doesn't that qualify as new tech?

Anyway, I'm more excited about HoloLens than any of those VR devices. Too bad it costs so much...

Eonjay2975d ago

@Alexious

Yes it does but OP is about VR support dropping at E3.
Based on Phil's comments we shouldn't expect that. In reference to HoloLens, I have a feeling that that is still a ways out. I wouldn't really expect that until next year. You will know its coming when you hear more devs talking about support and content. So far, we aren't anywhere close to that yet.

Overload2975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

@Alexious

The consumer version of Hololens has been delayed indefinitely.

http://news.softpedia.com/n...

hells_supernova2975d ago

Based on Phils comments we should be seeing Fable legends coming out of beta this year....oh wait.

Honestly though. I am looking forward to the future with these new technologies but I do not believe Microsoft will invest any further into the Xbox one. And I believe their next xbox will be a windows 10 media center for your tv.They stated years ago this was their end goal and honestly I do not mind that as long as there are games.

I love my pc gaming but have not upgraded to windows 10 however Forza is making a very strong case for me to jump.

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conanlifts2975d ago

But they are possibly making xbox a more open platform. Who knows what they will do as time passes.they are certainly up to something lately.

Yetter2974d ago

@Overlord you can't delay something that never had a release date

Kleptic2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

sd11: what 'they're up to', at least imo, seems pretty obvious...they're absorbing Xbox as a product division into windows, which they are simultaneously trying to transform into a service...it'll be slow, and not this generation exactly...but the writing seems to be on the wall already...

nearly all of MS's profit comes from windows and windows related 'things'...the xbox division has growth, and finally has profit, but its a drop in the bucket compared to windows...and the division is also severely falling behind a particular competitor this generation...the 360 did well, but certain suits at MS acted as if it was their own doing...the variable was the Wii, which actively cut the market apart between different types of gamers...MS was successful at pulling in users from Sony when there was an odd ball gimmick confusing the casuals...this generation has no Wii, and its simply that Sony has performed better at getting both types of buyers for the time being...

so MS's current changes are a reaction to that...shareholder pressure has been building since 2013...for a second time...about what to do with a product line that is being outpaced by competition, again...this is exactly what was happening in 2004 with the first xbox, and the answer then was to rush a new device to launch and deal with whatever happens after (read: RROD)...the answer now seems to be have windows absorb the product line as much as possible and to spread its services across more users (read: better integrate 1st party published software to more platforms/users)...in one month we've heard more about this than we have since the xbox division was even announced in 2000...

this has little to do with the xbox one as a device...more to do with how eventually there won't be things called 'xbox's'...there will be PC's, and possibly even OEM gaming machines that run an 'xbox service'...Xbox Live is what will survive...individual proprietary and in house built xbox devices are most likely the question mark...

Whymii2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

I can imagine the cover art on the boxes having the statement "Better with HoloLens".

Now where have I seen something like that before...?

Volkama2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

Phil is all PR talk. I don't think he was referring to Windows 10 when talks about VR as an open platform. He's talking the VR headset as an open platform, essentially like existing display tech. A Vive owner can buy and play from the Oculus store, so Vive would be considered an open platform. If Vive only played games from the Steam VR store it'd be closed.

Read between the lines, if MS say it is better to support open VR platforms then that's exactly what they have already decided to do. You can expect the Xbox to be compatible with open VR platforms down the line (ie Rift, Vive, a.n.other).

I can't see the Xbox One driving those, but I'd wager it's coming for the nextbox.

Apollosupreme2974d ago

Hololense is gonna cost three times the most expensive announced VR headset.

BG115792974d ago

Well Phil also said that Xbox's exclusives wouldn't go to PC...
So right now, it's kind of hard to believe anything right now.
But I'm sure of this, if the PSVR is successful, MS will definitely do something...

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S2Killinit2975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

Your going to have to wait till next generation for that from the looks of things.

On topic: its great to hear the praise for PSVR.

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IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2975d ago

@Frisky

Microsoft doesn't have a VR headset, but they do have an Augmented Reality headset.

Alexious2975d ago

Indeed, and it rocks. AR>VR for me.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2975d ago

@Alexious
The consumer version of HoloLens headset has been delayed indefinitely.

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Death2974d ago

Hololens was delayed indefinitely? That's impressive for a device that never had a ship date. The dev units are shipping as scheduled, but the consumer version which never had an announced price point or release date won't ship until Microsoft feels it's ready. A reasonable person understands that isn't "indefinitely delayed". A person with an agenda will call it indefinitely delayed.

As for Xbox and Hololens, they are completely separate devices that work independent of each other. It's possible we will see Xbox titles as Universal Windows Apps on the device, but an Xbox isn't needed at all.

Bdub20002974d ago

Where is the article that says it was delayed indefinitely? Stop repeating false rumors...

The article being passed around clearly states the consumer release is delayed until they make sure it's ready. The word "indexinitely" implies forever. The statement was that they are withholding release to make sure it works well for a good consumer experience.

IamTylerDurden12974d ago

U will never see Hololens in gamestop or Target. It probably won't ever get a full consumer version. Prices were estimated up to $1500. It's not legitimate gaming option, it's more a PR play atm.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2974d ago

@Death

I didn't write the stories. If you have a complaint about the wording these "journalists" are using, take it up with them. Here's a link to the original story:

https://recode.net/2016/02/...

Alex Kipman:

“When I feel the world is ready, then we will allow normal people to buy it.It could be as soon as we say ‘yes,’ and it could be as long as a ‘very long time.' If a consumer bought it today, they would have 12 things to do with it, And they would say ‘Cool, I bought a $3,000 product that I can do 12 things with and now it is collecting dust.'”

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ThyMasterDebater2974d ago

Only thing Microsoft will be droping is more sales and studios at this rate.

ps5fanboy2974d ago

Lol , they already dropped lots of stuff they shouldn't lmfao.

NovaCorps2974d ago

your console is done already stop trying thx

XanderZane2974d ago

What does MS Hololens have to do with PSVR Headset? Also Hololens is currently only for developers right now at a $3000 price. You won't see it for consumers for at least a couple years I'm thinking. MS wants developers to make games, apps & tools for it first before releasing it to consumers in the future.

As for PSVR, I'm just waiting to hear the price. They are shipping millions, but how many gamers will be buying one immediately? That will be the big question.

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ccgr2975d ago

Given the price point, I'm sure ti will do great!

Alexious2975d ago

It will have to be inferior to Oculus Rift. I don't think many people would buy it with a price higher than $399.

FriedGoat2975d ago

Rift will sell nothing compared to PSVR, mark my words. I'm just hoping that PSVR has PC drivers eventually so I don't have to get 2 headsets.

Vhampir2974d ago

@FriedGoat
You can hope, but it requires the co-processor to work, afaik. Which is also why they don't notice "jittering" or "sync" issues. It has to fake the extra frames.

Vive and Rift will be shipping soon, so we'll see how well VR catches on.

UltraNova2974d ago

Oh you mean like people bought the 100 dollar more expensive xb1 instead of the superior ps4 during this gen's beginning?

Got it!

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Eonjay2975d ago

If PSVR is as good as all the devs claim it is, and it manages to be only half the price of the competitors, then it probably will sell millions. Here the price vs performance argument plays out in Sony's favor. Its the only way to get masses into VR. PC VR will be great too, but it doesn't have the same ease of access as the PlayStation offering.

freshslicepizza2975d ago

i don't listen to devs like this,

"I can’t answer that question due to the contract with Sony. But I can say that I’d love to support both (HTC Vive and Oculus Rift)."

sounds like he's biased right out of the gate.

Eonjay2975d ago

And perhaps you are exposing your own bias for taking his comment out of context. He was asked whether his game would appear on other devices. Obviously, his exclusivity deal prevents him from giving an answer but he goes the extra mile to let folks know that Megaton Rainfall will appear on other devices.

Listen to devs like this. If you are intent on getting a Rift or Vive, he pretty must says that it will come after the deal has expired.

How do you find bias in his honesty?

generic-user-name2974d ago

If anything, his honesty about his contract shows he has no bias at all.

UltraNova2974d ago

He was being honest in light of his contract, its time you tried being honest for a change, Moly.

Festano2974d ago

That doesn't mean he's not being truthful at all.

Truthandreason2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

@anyone disagreeing with moldy
the dude has a contract with Sony... he's not going to say anything negative to the only one giving him money.

IamTylerDurden12974d ago

If he truly didn't believe in PSVR and if it was bad tech you think he would put himself out there in praising it to the heavens? He wouldn't say anything. Take it as a good sign that ppl put their reputations on the line for an unproven tech.

Devs Love PSVR to death, just like PS4. Sony hit on consecutive hardware devices it appears.

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freshslicepizza2975d ago

@Eonjay
"And perhaps you are exposing your own bias for taking his comment out of context."

how? did i say oculus was better?

"He was asked whether his game would appear on other devices."

that isn't what i am referring to. it was his commnet about how on his pc there is jittering. he doesn't even mention what his pc is. do you hear any other developer working on oculus saying this?

"Obviously, his exclusivity deal prevents him from giving an answer but he goes the extra mile to let folks know that Megaton Rainfall will appear on other devices."

once again that isn't what i am talking about.

"Listen to devs like this. If you are intent on getting a Rift or Vive, he pretty must says that it will come after the deal has expired."

but until then he will plug psvr, and why wouldn't he?

"How do you find bias in his honesty?"

because history has shown when someone makes an exclusive deal they will make pr statements to try and sell that product.

notachance2974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

'because history has shown when someone makes an exclusive deal they will make pr statements to try and sell that product.'

you have an exclusive deal with MS then? Everyone on this forum already know you're going full on MS mode every time you comment, the ones you're convincing are only your fellow MS pr bud.

SteamPowered2975d ago (Edited 2975d ago )

The Dev doesn't state once that PC is jittery or anything of the sort. He simply says PSVR is smooth and he can't say the same for PC. Hyperbole achieved.

Alexious2975d ago

He says that with PS VR he never sees frames outside of sync, while with PC VR he never had that kind of experience. No hyperbole at all.

Ravenor2975d ago

He clearly states he hasn't reproduced the same experience on his PC. What's his PC specs? What games, settings and version of the Vive or Oculus was he using or have access to? It may not fit your definition of hyperbole, but it sure as hell fits the definition of anecdotal.

nitus102974d ago (Edited 2974d ago )

@Ravenor

Minimum specs for the Oculus Rift is:

> Nvidia GeForce GTX 970/AMD Radeon R9 290 equivalent or greater
> Intel Core i5 4590 equivalent or greater
> 8GB+ RAM
> 2x USB 3.0 port
> HDMI 1.3 video output supporting a 297MHz clock via a direct output architecture
> Windows 7 OS or greater

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Somehow I don't think the writer has a PC with less specs than the minimum requirements. However I do agree that it would be appropriate to list the technical specs and attributes of the PC you are using.

kraenk122975d ago

The thing is both Rift and Vive still have a tiny screen door effect which the PSVR doesn't because it uses superior screen tech with three RGB sub pixels per pixel.

plmkoh2974d ago

Glad someone realises the fallacy that is Samsung AMOLED and exactly why you don't see AMOLED in any thing larger than a tablet. The 2K+ resolutions screens used on the other VR headsets are basically marketing on white papers, in reality their sharpness is half to a quarter the sharpness of the superior OLED RGB screen.

You see all these journalists scratching their heads thinking why the 1080p RGB OLED in PSVR barely exhibits the screen door effect despite stepping down from the expectations drilled into their minds from Oculus that you need 2k+ resolution to reduce the effect. The answer is the Oculus has 2k+ out of pure necessity due to AMOLED to get the same sharpness of a 1080p RGB screen.

UltraNova2974d ago

@above

Then if unit cost wasn't an issue why did Occulus and HTC go for AMOLED instead of OLED RGB when the latter is obviously more suited for VR?

kraenk122974d ago

@ultraNova

Sony was working on that tech since 2010. They even had headsets before. They simply developed superior tech which isn't available to any if the others.

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UltraNova2974d ago

Thanks guys, but they[Occulus or HTC] could contract Samsung to make a VR suitable OLED screen for them, but they didn't, maybe they lacked the technical expertise(unlike Sony), who knows.

That said I'm glad Sony made some really good decisions on PSVR's development.

Cant come out soon enough!

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Garethvk2975d ago

It was smooth when we tried it at PAX Prime but so were the other two.

ShadowKnight2975d ago

I have to agree with you on that. I didn't get a chance to check out the HTC Vive yet but I did check out the other two and it was smooth.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest17h ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5h ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2h ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

KicksnSnares15h ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv726h ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5h ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion6h ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer6h ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow14h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

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Square Enix Declares $140m Loss Amid Game Pipeline Shakeup

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth publisher Square Enix has declared a $140m loss based on a shakeup of its internal development pipeline.

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Furesis13h ago

What are they doing over there? Sounds like they canceled something big. I read a rumor a while back about ff9 remake . Here "Final Fantasy IX has gone through a very challenging development, the game is still in progress but may undergo changes drastic enough that we won't hear about it for a couple of years."
This could be one of the reasons if the rumor is true. That was Silknight i don't know how credible he is but it's something and it would make sense.

-Foxtrot12h ago

I hope IX is still on the cards

Just a straight up remake which they expand a little bit nothing over ambitious

If IX dosent happen then VI and VIII will never be thought of.

Kakashi Hatake2h ago

6 and 8 were way more p popular games despite today's cult following of 9.

TiredGamer11h ago

What are they doing? Sales are falling and the costs are out of control. Big releases need to be absolute sales home runs now, and Final Fantasy sales have stagnated.

Now we know why Square didn’t fall over themselves to remake the original FF7 all these years ago. It certainly wasn’t a license to print money, at least not with what the expectations were. Each of these full on remakes drains an enormous amount of company resources for a razor thin profit margin.

TwoPicklesGood10h ago

Breaking the game up into multiple parts was a mistake IMO.

blackblades9h ago

The loses came from cancelling games nothing else.

shadowT13h ago

Do not miss Final Fantasy 16. Great game!

raWfodog12h ago

I'm waiting for them to release the complete edition bundle, but it's definitely on my list.

PhillyDonJawn12h ago

Wth is going on with the gaming industry?

mandf11h ago

Corporate investors taking everything

TiredGamer10h ago

Not rocket science. Compare sales numbers, development cycles, and budgets to the previous gens. We are all collectively burning up the industry from the inside out. Expectations are ludicrously high now for every release and sales are dropping for even the most prestigious of series.

We used to be satisfied paying $50-60 for a game that took 1/100th the budget and staff to make. Now gamers feel cheated if they have to pay the same for a game that took 100x the budget. We may be reaching the end of the line for this model of gaming.

wiz71917h ago

@tiredgamer I think your point is one that ppl don’t understand and you hit it on the nose .. some gamers don’t want to take accountability but it’s some of the gamers fault the industry is where it’s at .. we as gamers set the standards for the industry not the shareholders , ppl forget that the shareholders and the industry want and need OUR Money. Both the Xbox and PlayStation are seeing a drop in hardware , the industry is very stagnant right now.

Tacoboto8h ago

Speaking to Square:

Turns out their mismanagement wasn't related to the western studios they dumped to Embracer, but their own fault.

With regards to Xbox - a good way to kill your brand is to pull support on high quality titles and only dump B and C-tier titles to it

With regards to PC - Epic Games Story exclusivity for any duration and piss-poor optimization will hurt you.

With regards to FF Pixel Remasters - y'all messed up by barely releasing them on physical, like wtf that was free money!

And lastly, you don't help a franchise by releasing a mainline title that undermines every title that came before it. FFXVI was a DMC-like with bottom-of-the-barrel side quests and I can't imagine that helping Rebirth at all considering its marketing is directly tied to how big that game is.

Tacoboto7h ago

Sony is getting their best titles and with the most polish, so what about it? Nintendo gets their top properties too, for titles that can run on Switch hardware.

It's the other fanbases that get the second- and third-class treatment from Square. If that's due to agreements with Sony, that's not a Sony issue but a Square one for accepting those terms. Sony is doing its best to look out for Sony.

TiredGamer12h ago

The industry implosion is continuing. Sky high budgets, prolonged development windows, stagnant sales numbers, and falling currency values (inflation) are wreaking havoc on the legacy industry. AAA games will slowly become the rarity.

CS711h ago

Sad. Rebirth was one of my favorite games in a long time. Should have sold more.

CrimsonWing6910h ago

Oh I’m with you. What’s worse is they can say, “Well we tried to make this amazing game and spend all this money on, but not enough people showed an interest. So no more of these since we can’t take a hit like that.”

The industry is going to take a dramatic shift. Mark my words on this.

rpvenom10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I think there is quite a large portion of individuals like myself who held out on buying it on PS5 because I can get it on PC eventually. To be able to mod the game and also have custom graphical settings to my liking

gold_drake22m ago

same

but im not sure if it matters at all. im sure they made sony pay a hefty sum for the 3parter to come on ps5 exclusively. so watever they made in sales, might have come bk in profits for square, but i dont know
and we dont know what "underperformed" even means for square.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar12h ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn11h ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18816h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast12h ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning7711h ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

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Lightning777h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772h ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2h ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

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darthv7211h ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes11h ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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