Dyack: Xbox 360 is Very Powerful

"TGR was lucky enough to have an interview with CEO of Silicon Knights Denis Dyack to talk about upcoming Xbox 360 exclusive Too Human. Since this is Silicon Knights' first game for Xbox 360, we thought it would be good to ask Dyack how the experience has been and his overall thoughts on the console"

[cain141]

As is the PS3. Each console has strengths and weaknesses. None are perfect.

[Funky Town_TX]

fanboy dev I hate them. This is almost as bad as Kojima. Too human is garbage (my demo impressions) and it should be delayed. "Powerful" is all based on what that person's perception is.

[Honeal2g]

Then yea its powerful.....seriously that demo was $h1t, this guy should never be allowed to make games... omg that demo was terrible should have been made for the Wii. ahh that felt good infact i would purchase Haze(if i owned a ps3) over this garbage.

/end Rant

[BattleAxe]

Seeing as how Too Human will probably flop, anything that comes out of Dyacks mouth is really meaningless.

[ChampIDC]

Bubbles for you cain141. You're one of few unbiased people on this site. It's true. Both consoles have their advantages and disadvantages. I made my console choice (can only afford 1) on game selection, which is in the favor of the 360 for me. Now, I'm not saying that PS3 doesn't have a lot of good games, but the 360 has more of my types of games. I have no bias based on the consoles themselves.

Honestly, I can't tell the difference between the two graphically. As long as the gameplay in a game is good, I'm more than happy.

[NO_PUDding]

I am sure it is powerful, just in comparison to what?

[cain141]

@1.4

I had to do the same thing. If I could afford all three I would, but as I'm still in college, I don't have a huge budget.

I plan on picking up a PS3 this year, but until then I've still only got a 360...

[Monchichi025]

This weekend Snoop Dog came was in RI for a concert in MA and I got the pleasure to meet him as I was one of the promoters for the concert. On the way to the hotel I got into the conversation about gaming and it turns out he's a HUGE 360 fanboy! LOL He even actually called the hotel, (Crown Plaza) and made sure they had a LCD and a 360 turned on and waiting for him for when he got to his room.

I also got his gamertag but, I won't be sharing it. LOL

But anyways, back to the topic. I think both the 360 and the PS3 have proven they are both strong systems.

[ChampIDC]

Yeah, I'd love to pick up a PS3 myself, but at the moment, college makes me poor. I'd really like to play some of the exclusives, and I have no friends that have a PS3.

@1.7
That's freaking awesome, haha. I envy you. I think I heard once that he's a big fan of 360, but I don't recall where.

[CaptainHowdy]

Snoop's a notorious pot-head. Of course he loves 360! i feel bad for his 360's fan

[Highwayman]

Aww..are the little fanboys upset?

[Milky]

Hey Dyack, wanna lick my balls too ?

[xm15e2s]

Gotta laugh at the people below that are calling Too Human garbage. As much as you would like it to be the 360's "Haze", it isn't.

Many of us love the demo and can't wait for the full game to get released.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

You hit the head of the nail with the hammer. Both the PS3 & 360 are great consoles. Both have strengths & weaknesses.

[dantesparda]

I havent seen Funky Town X or Honeal2g in a long time, but yeah to have to have these old timer (as in been on this site for a while) 360 fans (I'll be nice) tell you that Too Human sucks, should tell you something. The demo does suck, i dont know how anybody could like it. Im sorry but i thought that game was straight up garbage! Looks bad, plays bad, horrible camera and this is coming from somebody who used to like SK from the Eternal Darkness days.

But to XM, no, Haze was "bland", very bland, vanilla i would say. That's what made it suck. But Too Human is just plain bad, really bad, sorry

[N4g_null]

@joe382 bad question because your balls surely can not render one single polygon. This guy only licks powerful balls from what I read above. Good for him bad for you. Man there are so many fanboy developers though. I guess it helps some times though making console games is like pulling teeth for fun!

[The Dark Knight]

cause it is. Its just the ps3 is more powerful there both powerful

[RemmM]

The Wii is just a GameCube x2. But the Wii is more focused on its controller, cheap price, innovation with games and such. PS3 and 360 are both great powerful systems, nuph sed. XD

[xm15e2s]

dantesparda, I don't care if Too Human makes you cry when you play it, myself and MANY others love the game. Not because we are "fanboys", but because we love the demo.

Of course not everyone is going to like it (just like not everyone likes Halo) but for those of us who do, we are very amped up for the game.
People telling me how much the game sucks will not make me enjoy it any less.

I suspect that once Too Human is released and people begin to appreciate it's depth, the reviews will be very positive.

I also suspect that much of the negative press surrounding this game is coming from journalists who have an issue with Denis Dyack, not Too Human. ; )

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Hideo Kojima has made games for all platforms like the Saga Saturn, the Game Boy Advanced, and the XBOX.

[jmorph9]

I'd talk up the console too.

1) It makes the people who own the console think it is optimized for just their console.
2) It indirectly talks up their game by talking up the console
3) The only people you piss off can't buy your game anyways.

Why not talk up the console? Worked great for MGS4.

[ToastyMcNibbles]

news flash! a 360 developer says xbox 360 is powerful! oh! breaking news! a ps3 developer says ps3 is powerful! hmmmmm

[supahbad]

fer real

[Sega Saturn]

The 360 is the most powerful console!

[Jandre02]

Says one of the 48 people who bought a sega saturn.

[Wildarmsjecht]

ROFL

That was just mean, but hilarious. Kudos man LOL. bubs

[ChampIDC]

From what I've seen, a lot of the power of a console is how well a game is developed for it. You can make a game for PS3 that looks like a Wii game. A lot of it comes down to the developers. Yes, the PS3 does actually have more physical power, but it's also been said that it's hard to learn to develop on it, which I know has hindered a lot of games early on. The 360, on the other hand, is pretty standard to develop for, taking some strain off development. It all comes down to one question. How dedicated are the developers? In the end, the PS3 can definitely put out a little more than the 360, but that comes at the tradeoff of a high learning curve.

Personally, I couldn't care less which console is more powerful as long as the games stay fun. The difference in graphics is neglectable if you ask me.

[JBaby343]

Freakin hilarious. LOL too funny.

[jlemdon]

we all know the saturn was better for fighting games than Ps1.

but I had both so I didn't care.:P

[MIAMIFROST]

funny sh*t !

[Poor Xbots]

Poor Xbots

Poor Xbots, the 360 is very powerfull??? Poor Xbots, that's bad use of sarcasm. Poor Xbots, the worlds fastest computer is running from a PS3 engine.

Poor Xbots

[Phil Collins]

FF13 is gone now all the sheep flock to a "unknown project" as their savior. Lets face it, ps3 is mostly talk and little walk.

It's 2008 and they're still trying to mimmick features the 360 has had since 05.

Too Human will be a Solid Title, but nothing mind blowing. But the power of the 360 is allowing bezerkers to summon giant friggin bears.

Nuff said!

[ravinshield]

you sound and write like a dumb a$$ 1 grader

[Thoas]

http://i289.photobucket.com...

[zapass]

yeah, he's got LOSER written all over his face XD
it's something all xbots have in common.

Too Boooooooooring FTL

[morganfell]

Well that settles it. Dyack says the 360 is powerful. But he also said the PS3 is more powerful than the 360.

So that means while the 360 is powerful the PS3 is uberpowerful. Case closed.

[Pain]

.... http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...

.......Smell that?

[jcfilth]

"Dyack: Xbox 360 is Very Powerful"

those words coming from the dev of a game many people said already flopped.

Very smart guy!! and of course now, no matter how bad or boring the game is, all the xbots will buy it.

I wonder what this guy would say if he worked on the PS3.

[Homicide]

The 360 is very powerful that it could make Ninja Gaiden run 540p @ 20fps.

[Mr Fancy Pants]

the difference between is that MGS4 it is an already proven game. what the heck it is too human anyway?

Kojima >>>>>> Dyack or whatever he is called.

on top of that he said: "I really like the 360. I think it’s a great console", great means "good"

monster machine means "a freaking monster machine man!". ;-)

monster >>> great > good

[syanara]

this guys view of powerful depends on what he thinks piowerful is if hes used to snes games then yea the 360 is powerful but if hes used to ps3 games no its not powerful personally I think that the 360 WAS a good console but its going out of style and there is too many xbox fanboys that just want to keep holding on. stubborness is one thing that relally fuels this console war and its too bad that people hate to change their opinions espically in the console wars.

the 360 is fighting an uphill battle where things are only gonna get worse for them. as sony releases all their games that are comming in the fall and through to 09 I think the 360 is gonna need some more exclusives to keep their feet. they didn't announce any at E3 I mean if the 360 is all about games then why aside from FFXIII is their beggiset news netflix. I saw mostly multi-platform games that they were showing off. Gears 2 looked great as did Fable 2 but then again so did resistance 2, quest for booty, LBP, and KZ2. MAG also seems interesting along with infamous and God of War 3. so In other words mcrosoft's money throwing strategy isnt really working all that well and having GTA IV DLC isnt gonna help them since GTA IV is already out of style with most gamers. I feel that sony has a bright future ahead of them.

Too everyone who says sony is all talk and no walk, well remember sony hasnt said much about release dates, they talked about alot of things they are dong but they never mentioned any release dates on most of these things I mean Home they said is comming in fall and was pushed back one and with all the speculation and rumors that are denied many people think sony is saying all this stuff when its not them its the people who are spreading the rumors.

Just keep that in mind ;)

[niall77]

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[Jandre02]

Hahaha.

[TheColbertinator]

Hahahaha Good one Niall

[Stryfeno1]

The Wii is powerful...in sales.

Edit: oops...I was typing a longer reponse, but decided to delete it and keep it simple.

[Kyur4ThePain]

But what the h3ll is going on with our edumacation system?
"Sell" is a verb, not a noun (well, it could be used as a noun, but not in this context).
You want "sales".

[BattleAxe]

yeah, the Wii has the power to put smiles on peoples faces according to Reggie Fils Aime.

[ChampIDC]

Yarr, Nintendo be smile pirates!

[Surfman]

very powerful compared to the NES, yeah.

[Kleptic]

they started development on the PS1...compared to the PS1...the 360 is an extremely powerful machine...

Sorry dennis...your psuedo-UE3 visuals are not fooling anyone...give your fans decent animation and particle effects and you will regain their attention...

seriously...Too Human may be 'fun' according to some...but regardless of how good or bad the end games ends up...the demo at least left a ton to be desired visually...then ol' denny comes out and say how powerful the box is?...nice try...Kojima did a similar thing, only difference being his game absolutely wrecked every other console game ever made visually...Too Human didn't...end_discussion.exe

[Overr8ed]

plz the 360 is powerful enhough to make me a badly cooked grilled cheese.

[pwnsause]

In before Zhuk Comment

[aggh im on fire]

Well it ran GTA4 better than its main competitor. So guess it must be quite powerful.

[Isaac]

But that is false information. Most reviewers gave the edge to the PS3 version, even Dan and Sam Houser from Rockstar gave the edge to the PS3 version. Sorry kids.

[GMR_PR]

@ Isaac

Yep, we all know the PS3 couldn't run GTA4 HD.

[Xheratuul]

GTA 5 will be ps3 exclusive

[Dan Houser]

PS3 is the better machine. GTA V is going to be on PS3 exclusively, you heard it here first.

[Isaac]

"Yep, we all know the PS3 couldn't run GTA4 HD."

Says the guy with the Halo 640p avatar.

[Thoas]

you got owned by Isaac

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

[JBaby343]

GMR you so got owned by Isaac. LOL nice.

[nitramn4g]

GTA 5 will be ps3 exclusive

Didn't they say the same for FF13? outch!

[Rocko]

The lameass Dyack pic and now THAT? Your like 3 years behind, just shut the f**k up.

[power of Green]

Its funny to see a thread talking about the 360 end up being about the PS3, this comment seems to have offended the PS3 fanboys lol.

[JBaby343]

Ludicrous comments tend to be offensive.

[pp]

I'm not surprised at all thats why i brought a xbox360 over ps3

[darkside]

ok, why is worlds fastest computer is running from a PS3 engine and not the 360??

[Dacapn]

I'm pretty sure the NES could run this game.

[JBaby343]

You actually bought a 360 over a PS3 because you're a stupid bot that doesn't know any better. Not because you made an educated choice which I could at least respect.

[nitramn4g]

He just both a 360 for

Gear of war 2
banjo
Fable 2
Too human
All the 3rd party games
All the rpgs including FF13
better online play

Poor bastard :(

He should of both a ps3 because n4g droids said so!!!!!
Wait beyond ps3 jerks, wait until next year 2009!!!!! year of sony

[JBaby343]

You listed 1 great game, an average game, and two that do not impress so far. Plus 3rd party games are pretty much even at this point and by superior online you must be referring to laggy p2p online that you have to pay for. Poor bots. Sony is already owning 2008 and 2009 looks to be more of the same especially with the line-up you presented (I don't even have to go into the PS3's line-up).

Speaking of waiting you will be waiting longer for FF13 than PS3 owners not mention waiting for your console to get back from the shop. You can keep waiting beyond.

People will keep ragging on pp as long as they like.

[Naism]

If the 360 is so powerful Dyack, then how come your game couldn't harness this so called "power?" Hmmm? Hmmmmm?

[v1c1ous]

hmmm?

[Kyur4ThePain]

That's a stupid comment.

That's like me coming last in a race and saying wow, that car is fast.
The reason Too Human and Haze suck is not because of the hardware. It's the devs.

Let's all agree on one thing...you don't judge consoles by their WORST performing game. That's just stupid.
You judge them by their BEST games. In that case, they all rock.

[Funky Town_TX]

almost as bad as Haze. If you give the most powerful piece of hardware to a crap dev guess what you will get. This game has looked like garbage since we first looked at it. Games like this are bad because it opens up the flood gates for other garbage games.

[v1c1ous]

with an equal statement.

i know two wrongs don't make a right, but sometimes it adds up with trolls like this :p

[ChampIDC]

Both consoles suck when developers suck. Both consoles rule when developers rule. Simple as that.

[DJ]

Too Human is the bottom of the list in terms of showing off the 360's technical performance. Gears of War 2 and Bioshock prove that the system is powerful; it just takes the right developer.

[devilhunterx]

After finishing Haze and Halo. All I got to say is HAZE=HALO. Both suck. Too Human on the other looks very interesting. Will wait for the complete version to come on the PC and then... PIRATE IT :P

[The Lazy One]

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that they had to not only switch engines mid-development, but had to BUILD THEIR OWN ENGINE in the middle of developing a game.

Considering what they've gone through, the game looks great. The more important thing is that it's fun.

[KobeT24]

The Xbox 360 is a powerful system.

However Too Human is not a powerful game.

Seriously though the Demo sucked.

[dachiefsman]

whats your gamer tag? Cause I don't believe you played it.

[ReBurn]

Since when do demos show up in your played list?

[juuken]

....*blinks*

[eagle21]

Both with problems and graphical glitches.... :P

[ravinshield]

how the fu@k do you know too human aint even out and the demo does not have any problems or glitches

[pwnsause]

the demo is the cadidate that represents the final product, just like Haze, just like NG2

[TL24]

Damn bro chill! lol.. this guys getting all mad about a game jesus...

Anyways i find this very funny, why you ask?

1. The demo (basically finished product) runs at a horrible framerate, looks like a xbox game at times.

2. The gameplay is so pathetic the only people that enjoy the game are those that make themselves enjoy it.

3. Sound: don't get me started on the sounds of this game, when you hit someone with a sword it sounds like you just hit em' with a stick.

4. Overall package of the game is just average, it'll be like by those who want to love it. But to majority of us games it'll be the HAZE and LAIR for the PS3.

So with that said i'm not even sure why they'd state the 360 is that powerful when they couldn't even create a good game for it. Oh and again we see another 360 exclusive using the UE3 engine at first, to only use a custom engine that's off the UE3 engine... 360 + UE3 engine = ALL THE 360 GAMES!

[juuken]

eagle...don't make ravin cry there. I don't have that many tissues for that river! :O

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

...Dyack: MicroSoft's MONEY is Very Powerful ;-D

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I'm not going to try and change your minds but I think you are both off your rocker if you think the Too Human demo has problems and I question if you've even played it since the game does not suffer from framerate problems and there are no glaring graphical hitches.

Maybe your 360 is about to die?

The game was great, I've not played a demo this much since Bioshock so your "had to force themselves to like it" is not the case with me.

[Yoichi_Wada]

Kens-San i totaly agree, they bribed and threatened me into makin FF13 multi-platform, my greatist apologies, but i gurentee ill make up 4 it

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

I hope you got your Family back safe and well!!!;-D
They tried to kidnap me!!! ;-D
But King Kaz Zapped them with the Blu-ray erm Ray of DEATH!!! ;-D
Please make the 'FF' News make my PS3 fans very, very ,very HAPPY!!!;)

[Yoichi_Wada]

Oh Ken-san my family are fine, hope you were okay, oh thank you King Kaz with your FUTURE PROOF blu-ray (unlike that dual layer antique)

ps: I assure you i will make the PS3 fans happy as time progresses

Square Enix Company, Limited 株式会社スクウェア･エニックス

[NewSchoolGamer]

help it if developers dont know how to harness the power of a system. However they could just shut up and get to work.

[aggh im on fire]

Ps3 and 360 are pretty much identical in this area. I have both and haven't yet seen one game that couldn't run on the other.
The only thing stopping the use of the consoles power is crap developers.

[ChampIDC]

I agree. I'm sure any PS3/360 game could run on the other. The only limitation between them is disk space. Developers are the driving force between a good and bad game. I'm tired of people comparing the consoles. Why can't everyone just shut up and be happy with their own console that they love?

[Aclay]

Yeah, the 360 may be powerful.... but no where near as powerful as the PS3 and that's just straight up facts.

When there's a game like Killzone 2 using 4 and a half of the PS3's cores, it's just the beginning for what PS3 games will be like and to prove it, the actual in-game graphics for God of War 3 are said to be very close to the CGI trailer that was shown.

I think that developers have almost pretty much squeezed as much out of the 360 as they will get from it. Forza 3 and/or Gears 2 will probably push the 360 a "little" bit further, but that's about all I expect.

[nitramn4g]

PS3's game are not better looking then 360 after neerly 2 years, they won't be in the future. Look at Xbox and ps2, Xbox came out and it had better graphics from the start. That my friend is a superior console. If it's not better from the start then forget about it. You should stop beleiving in Sony promisses.

[slugg]

Use all games that haven't been released yet, when up til now, games released on both systems almost universally look better and run better on the 360. So you can whine "lazy devs" and "360 port" all you want, but it sure makes it SEEM like the 360 is the more powerful machine.

[marionz]

dont just say ps3 is the most powerfull and thats fact, back it up, if you know everything then then fill us in.

its sad when people believe everything they read on the net, ill believe god of war looks like cgi when i SEE it, and to those who still insist uncharted looks better then gow ahh ok ive played both and still disagree, just as i do when people say mgs4 is the best looking game ever...resident evil 5 looks better but thats my opinion.

[devilhunterx]

Uncharted.

[The Lazy One]

The 360 and PS3 are a lot more balanced than you think. The cell is a powerful CPU, but it has drawbacks. if it were flat out more powerful, games would all be either equally or better performing/looking on the PS3.

They are different. That's the only FACT about it. PS3 is better for some things, 360 is better for others. DEAL WITH IT.

[Rhezin]

YOU NEED TO BE ERADICATED

[juuken]

...says the person with one bubble.

I won't deny that the 360 has some decent graphics but seriously, the most powerful system?

This guy is just sucking up because he thinks his game is gonna be good when it will probably flop.

I have seen graphics on the PS3 and they seriously destroy the 360.

[karlostomy]

I have seen those graphics you refer to on the ps3 and they are nothing that cannot be done better on the 360.

Witness:
GTAIV ps3 640p
GTAIV 360 720p

I think that case is now closed.

[Yoichi_Wada]

Umgh umgh, may i interupt, ok i am making FF13 multi-platform and this is how it is going to be like

Almighty PS3 ver: 1080p
Sh*tbox 360 vers: 576i (due to the limitations of xbox)

Square Enix Company, Limited 株式会社スクウェア･エニックス

[BigKev45]

We know, Dyack.

[Varsarus]

360 very powerful? ROFL, muhahahahaha, I bet the game will be 585p native res, because remember, Itagaki said the same thing and you know what res NG2 was :D

[Fishy Fingers]

Do we need these. 360 developers praising the 360. PS3 developers praising the PS3. While they're obviously telling the truth what do you expect from them? This is their meal tickets.

I don't need the constant reassurance.

[ChampIDC]

That's like saying cheeseburgers are delicious when they're all you've eaten your whole life!

lol@disagrees

[pp]

I wouldn't compair Too Human to Haze after all xbox360 never has flops. they all are on ps3 home for Flops

[TL24]

Once you're beloved TOO HUMAN gets below a 7.5 from Gamespot & IGN we'll see if you're still taking.

[Greysturm]

Hour of victory and vampire rain... Maybee two worlds?

[Xheratuul]

pp, you are a flopp pp

[pwnsause]

FLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFL OPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPF LOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOPFLOP FLOPFLOP

[Ali_The_Brit]

NG2 anyone? we all saw how fast he removed his NG avatar once it flopped LOL

[JBaby343]

Seriously pp where's your NG2 avatar? Talk about flops. Put up a too human avatar now.

[JEDI WOLVERINE]

Apparently you DO need constant reaasurrance.................. .some people on this site just disagree for the sake of it im sure.

Anyway ff bubbles up!

[TL24]

I feel sorry for the developers, they released a DEMO that had so many graphical & gameplay issues that it makes you wonder WTF they've been doin' all this time...

[wangdiddy82]

will show all that the PS3 is very powerful and the most powerful..

[slugg]

Just like Home will show us all how to do Online right... when it releases on the same day as Duke Nukem Forever!

[pp]

Sony should make a new store on ps3 called FLOPS

[Xheratuul]

you will be for sale in that FLOpp store

[pwnsause]

yea it would be a game about 360 games flopping hard

[DarkSniper]

Too Human is a direct contradiction to Dennis Dyack's comments. Xbox 360's internal hardware design is simply a rushed and scaled down PC. There's not much difference on what can be done from the last generation Xbox to Xbox 360. Simply put, Microsoft has made a garbage console for two generations straight.

Back in the 80's and early 90's, gamers were playing with power on their Nintendo consoles. Now gaming has advanced to true power and next generation gameplay with PLAYSTATION®3.

$niper

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The original Xbox was superior in hardware to the PS2 but it still ended up in last place much like your precious POS3 will this gen.

[Phil Collins]

Don't hate on the 360. It is not a glorified PC. It has proven to be just as powerful as the ps3.

The only real difference is a disc format.

[JBaby343]

PCs are much more powerful.

[Whoooop]

We know the 360 is powerful, there's no doubt about that.

Games like Gears, Bioshock and ME proved that, but Too Human is not the best example to demonstrate how powerful the 360 is.

I expect CliffyB to say that.

[Noodlecup]

My old PC can run gears, CoD4 etc much better than the 360 and it's severly outdated now. The 360 will hit a brick wall in terms of graphics sometime in the next year or 2

[Obama]

I wouldn't laugh so hard if too human looks good, but it's not.

[Yoichi_Wada]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 'yeh right', My company struggle so much to make a game for the Sh*tbox 360, it has too many limitations, i think it is about to die out soon to tell the truth, also the PS3 has no limitations for our games. But still by my FF13 that will be on 20 disks on the 360 version due to its dual layer antique, and just 1 disk with the PS3s because of its future proof Blu-Ray

Also I, Yoichi Wada, say that PS3 is an unbelievable ultimate monstorous machine, nothing can compare to it at the moment, it has no limitations unlike the Xbox 360 which has soo many

[LuHawk]

Shut your b!tch ass up dont know body care about what Yoichi Wada dumb ass says

[pornflakes]

we dont care.. MGS4 also looks average. Not better than uncharted.. less polygons, less textures than gears of War1.. i laugh at this newb Kojima.

ANd AT THE ENND TOO HUMAN will be the next title which will sell over a Million. How many exclusives do you have which sold more than 1 Million? but not over a year, LOL!

Ya just got owned. RE5, GTA4, DEVIL DMC4, FF13/ VERSUS... you got owned already and you already lost the console war.

@edit: 20 dsics HAHA... that would be 170GB you fool.... you mean MAX4... and of course we dont need 7.1 TRUE HD sound like in movie gear solid4 which took 20GB of the 33GB on BD, OWNED! Every dev makes 7.1 True HD make the BD full, cause some media would laugh at BD when all next gen titles would take "just" 10GB of the disc.

[Jackthepwnsaur]

thats funny, cause last time i played MGS4, i saw that the game looked close to cgi, something that xbox games can never achieve, oh wait, gamespot gave MGS4 a 10/10 so did IGN 10/10 and gamepro 5/5. you should be ashamed for speaking garbage out of your mouth.

"Ya just got owned. RE5, GTA4, DEVIL DMC4, FF13/ VERSUS... you got owned already and you already lost the console war."

say that to companies like nintendo when they lost similar exclusives to the Genesis, and won the console war without those 3rd party titles, ROFL your full of fail, GTFO of N4G.

[Varsarus]

You my friend don't know shít about Hideo Kojima, the greatest game director of them all, at least he is smarter than any other developer as he chose the PS3 and not the clownbox to create MGS4 for obvious reasons...

[Greysturm]

Last time i checked versus was still exclusive, and MGS4 pushed the sales the ps3 in the only contested market by 2 to 1 against the xbox.

Not only that but the console you say is winning is irrelevant in the largest Market for videogames namely ASIA and has only lost ground since the launch of its compétitors to the point that its no longer leading but rather a fastly falling second place which if sales trend are any indication they would have fallen to third by 2009.

[Jikla]

powerful enough to make an 8-hr long SP story for an action rpg. Too human was too short in my opinion, so this remark from devs in silicon knights is kinda funny. But by all means, the 360 isn't bad. I love mine, except it's on repair from when it collapsed at the last boss in lost odyssey :(

[slugg]

If you claim Too Human was "too short", when did you play the full, retail game?

[MetalProxy]

Played that demo for Too Human last night and realized the game is a big pile of shyt. I wanted it to be cool but it wasn't. So WTF do these guys know?

I try and try and try and try to like my 360 but it just dont happen.

[911 Gaming]

It may be very powerful. But that does not mean that it is as powerful as the PS3. Or more powerful. Just because a horse can run fast does not mean another can run faster. Sometimes, in horse races, horses trip, fall, break unfixeable parts, and end up getting Mr. 12 Gauge to the brain. And become replaced.

[Tyetan]

Of course he going to say this he's basically working for M$ right now. He'd be shooting himself in the foot if he bad mouthed his publishers console. It's the same thing as asking Insomniac what they think of the PS3. It's retarded.

[nitramn4g]

virtual fighter = not possible on 360, designed ground up for ps3. Later came out better on 360.
Same with UT3.
GTA4, FFXIII.
You says ps3 needs more time to have better games. I recall a certain Xbox, when it came out it did better graphics then ps2 from the start, including 3rd parties. If ps3 was so powerfull, we would see better 3rd party games already!

Now, let me start this years chant: Wait t'il next year, 2009 will be the year of the ps3!!! rrrhhhh!!!

[Greysturm]

Why did oblivion look better on ps3, burnout, dmc4 etc. UE3 is supposed to have produced the best looking 360 games and sadly its a multiplatform engine while the best looking games on ps3 are run on exlusive engines and so far the general consensus is that ps3 exlusvie games look better than xbox exlusive games. If yo uhavent noticed by now 2008 has been the year of the ps3 unless you want to leave out the outselling the xbox worldwide all year long thus reducing the lead, winning the hd format, rolling a lot of new features through firmware and release of games such as GT5p and MGS4 that have sold better than any 360 game this year so far with a catalog left strong enough to warrant the storm of xbox heavy hitters?

But since you mention it so far by anounces alone 2009 belongs to sony starting in spring when 2 heavy hitters go on sale while xbox as usual will wait to release anything worth mentioning until the 3rd quarter.

[nitramn4g]

2008: Gt5p a demo 8/10 metacritic, if thats winning I hate to see what's loosing. The only good game on ps3 is mgs4. GTA4 sold alot more on 360, many belived it would not. Software sales Worldwide tell another story. Ps3 is being use as a blu-ray player by some.
Next month 360 = Too Human and Tales of Vesporia Ps3 = nothing.
September 360 = Infinite discovery ps3 = nothing
October 360 = Fable 2 ps3 = nothing
November 360 = Gears of War 2 ps3 = LBP

Burnout, Oblivion (with the patch they released after which makes them the same) and DMC4 are not better on PS3. I've seen them with my own eyes. Keep fooling yourself and wait.

[Greysturm]

Resistance 2, Siren Blood Curse, Socom, and the localization of the jrpgs released in japan that are hitting the US namely disgaea 3 and Valkyria chronicles which are more than a match to infinite undiscovery for sales and quality.

Losing is what the xbox is doing by not releasing anything kiddo and releasing games that should sell more than crap like haze but flop like NG2. You are the blinded fan if you cannot accept the 360 is losing the fight for all the graphical quality and exlusives you like to tout its not selling like you would like it too just face it, even if it has the best online service its appeal is reduced to the hardcore and their casual appeal is not even a lifeline.

I would have been surprised if GTA didnt sell better o nxbox considering the main demographic is the US where the lead of the xbox is currently based since it isnt such a fenomenom i nother territories and the fact that Microsoft kept shouting to everybody about the 50 million downloadable content and even then the disparity was not as massive as it should have been considering in install base bought percentage the ps3 bought more.

[n00bzRtehgey]

Demo is good. Nuff said. This game may not be Halo, Gears, or Fable, but it will certainly be better than 99% of most PS3 exclusives lol.

[bob1234567]

Hmm.. it seems teh worldz gets exited about somthing so normal.
lets assume a diffrent situation to contrast the statement....

"Dyack:Ps3 is very powerful" this = news why ??? becuase its interesting out of norms... u dont see a microsoft exec saying ps3 is my favorite system. Especially not a person making a game EXCLUSIVLY for 360.Cmon now the dude is funded by microsoft (correct me if im wrong) i cant belive why people would approve of this obvious junk. I dont want to see some guy working years of his life on 1 product and saying its "Good" i want to see that man talking trash on that product (Too Human = TRASH by teh wayz) or atleast sideing with the competition. THIS IS COMMON SENSE STOP posting this stupid junk its not interesting its boring and if you really need someone to tell you a product is good take a opinion from somone less biased...

[Xheratuul]

stop making fun of yourself

[TheOutsider]

YEAH, VERY POWERFUL MICROWAVE!!! COOKS MY DINNERS FAST!!

[Zulwarn]

only unbiased devs will admit and give solid evidence that the 360 is truly the best console this gen unlike a "certain" console's devs who are paid to jabber without giving any proof

Too Human another AAA game on the 360 where it truly belongs which looks extremely gorgeous compared to BS err that "certain" consoles best *smirk* looking game's which suffer's from dull textures and jaggies

[MaximusPrime]

Wii = powerful
xbox360 = very powerful
PS3 = very very powerful

[Siqness]

the xbox is more powerful

-sony removed 25%of the cells cpu power and 18% is lost to the os.....
once you have taken into account the total amount of resources that will be used by their respective operating systems, the ps3 ends up with less graphical and processesing power thn the 360

[Varsarus]

Do you have a source about that 25% removal?

I agree that the OS uses around 32MB to 48MB, however, Sony can bring it down whenever they want to, they have done before.

CPU, please, the PS3 has a 10x advantage here, no joke, the Xenon has 3 cores, but they don't have a communication system, they have to sift through L2 cache or RAM if there’s any data that needed to be transferred between them, whereas the Cell has a 300GB direct bandwidth connection to all of the SPU's...

and this article shows the Cell is capable of blasting every other CPU...

http://www.allegorithmic.co...

Now that's just one SPU, if you didn't know...

and don't get me started with the RAM, GPU crap, already had a headache of that from Bruceongames...

[Siqness]

dont get u started about the ram?as if it doesnt affect the performance of the cell...the ps3 is bottlenecked because there isnt enough memory...

http://www.rage3d.com/board...

now i expect u to read the whole thing!! and dont come telling me its a load of bullsh** because its a 100% fact

[pwnsause]

??? not enough memory? ROFL didnt we all had this conversation before? remember that the PS3 has XDR memory? wow, so dumb.

[Siqness]

so then why dont u read the article from the link i posted..

[Varsarus]

The PS3 is not bottlenecked, the Cell sorts out any of them, and memory?, it's 512MB, no questions asked, the Cell has access to both XDR & GDDR3 (Write), however, it reads GDDR3 very slow.., that link about Epic stating that PS3 is incapable of handling Gears is one of the most funniest statements I've ever heard, just more PR bollocks from them, and I'll just say that Epic had UE3 looking better on UT3 for PS3 than they did with Gears for 360...

http://www.videogamer.com/n...

I'll tell you now that the 360 has more bottlenecks than PS3, and that my friend is a fact, unified memory is what laptops use, it's also cut the bandwidth to less than half of what PS3 has. Microsoft held the 360 back by only putting in 10MB of EDRAM as it's useless for HD resolutions with AA. Also, the GPU is limited by the poor engineering of the CPU aswell, I could go on and on...

Oh, and look what I found...

http://www.tgdaily.com/cont...

[Roukuko]

owned by varsarus hardcore style

[Siqness]

i dont think u understand whts going on with the ps3....in the table on tgdaily it says the ps3 gets up to 218 Gflops from the cell....but the thing is tht it was tested with all eight SPE`s...but as you already know....the cell does NOT use all eight SPE`s for games...during physical ingame testing the ps3 was able to pull off just 155 Gflops.

[karlostomy]

Siqness: 1
SDF: 0

Thanks for your accurate and factual posting Siqness.

[Says you]

They didn't even compare the HD for XBox 360 neither so how can they say it is 640p when they only use a magnifying glass that can go 100x smaller to see if its HD doesn't prove crap both of the games look the same so people and of course XBox 360 fans are going to take the forums word for it instead of the developers that didn't confirm the game being 640p?!

and of course if there going to compare it at least do it side by side from the XBox 360 version.

[karlostomy]

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
http://www.gamepro.com/news...
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20...
http://www.gamecyte.com/200...

These articles SHOULD shut you up.
(but I KNOW you will continue with your denial)

[Fux4Bux]

At this point 360 is a very low end PC.

[enjoi187]

best game ever.....LAIR..not

[Tmac]

Both consoles are powerful, but don't kid yourself the PS3 is just producing better results.

[n00bzRtehgey]

u mean GTA in SD with no AA?

[Tmac]

You mean every major video game news outlet agreeing the PS3 version looks better?

[Close_Second]

...of this continuous pissing contest between hardware formats. I think all (console) gamers should band together and demand a single hardware platform next-gen so we can get back to what matters most...games.

[1stKnighT]

Of course the 360 is very powerful. All you have to do is look at the multiplatform games. The 360 can handle ports from the ps3. The ps3 on the other hand has a hard time hanging with the 360 ports. Plain and simple.

[pow3r of t3h c3ll]

Can sony hurry up and release the first screenshots of god of war 3 so we can once and for all put to rest these idiotic claims of the 360 being more powerful?

When they are released xbots we are gonna laugh so hard in your faces mwhahahahahaha!!!

[AnthonyPerez]

I respect Dyack, but he really just needs to stop talking. Kind of like Michael Pachter.

[DFresh]

Is it powerful enough to nuke a country or powerful enough to burn down your house?
Dynack doesn't know what he's talking about Too Human flopped and he's coming out trying to say the 360 has power well if it did have power like you said then why is your game a flop.

[slugg]

That this is not news. Denis Dyak's name has been all over the internet lately, so a lame post to get hits in my opinion. Will say that I have noticed alot of the Too Human haters have disappeared after the Demo came out and was pretty good, lets see how it sells....

[Mausenheimmer]

Well, it's good Dyack likes working with the 360 since that is what he's been doing for three years.

[air1]

oh, you sony b!tches cry a river. all i know is i got a better library on my 360 than you do on the ps3 plain and simple and thats how the ps2 won more and better games.

by the time you see some real results on the ps3 the next box will be out making that look like burnt bacon it's a shame that a 3 1/2 year old console is keeping up with the so powerful ps3. all fanboyism to the side think about it. you're calling the 360 dated now imagine how the ps3 is gana look compared to the next box in a few years i say 3 yrs

[Wii60Fan]

have their strengths and weaknesses just depends on what you like as far as games go.

[sephy 9 2 5]

developers of Alan Wake or Project Offset was saying this then yeah, but Too Human? I wouldn't use that game as any sort of justification of what the 360 can do.

[jerethdagryphon]

this is the gamer zone and all i hear are the same comments iget in open zone

360-ps3 ports are worse proimarly because of limited development time
ps3-360 ports are easier because all they have to do is pull the spe direction code

the consoles are BOTH power houses in there own right

i will agree that 360 has more games and makes excellent use of the ue3 engine

however. cell , the heart of the ps3 was designed for servers and supercomputers.... this is fact
this being the case your talking a radically differetn arcitecture then the xbox or 360
as for why the original xbox had better graphics ok tech spec time ....you asked for it..

ps2: custom emotion engine processor clocked at 266-300 megahertz
32 meg ram
xbox: a custamized (read simplified) pentium 3 733 mhz processor, almost off the shelf
a customized (read integrated) gf3 graphics card
64 ram

btw the development of the integrated 'high end gpu' led to the nforce motherboard being released.

so thats why it had better graphics , and to be honest ps2 still had some very pretty games.

microsoft needed to getin the console game(pardon the pun) fast and building a console off the shelf parts did the job.

360 is similar only with a larger development budget, they used ppc cores in an untried configuration and paid for it with the rrod fault costing somewhere in the region of a billion.
but they got there console out first in fact they had 1 years head start on the ps3.

now i have played on both 360 first played gears and a double handful of others and aside from the controller they were ok they were very pc graphics. gears was again very shiny and its cover system was inovative at the time.

however when i got my ps3 the first game i ran and on standard deffinition was resitance a launch title.
about 15 minites into the game i stopped after an explosion to wave my hand in front of me to try to clear away the smoke so i could see to shoot.
stupid yes but thats how real the game felt.

alot of people seem to take specular mapping and reflective mapping as the sign of good graphics

ue3 and halo has that in spades.

unfortuently all that does is give a plastic /wet look to textures fine when they need to be, but a bit silly on rock walls

this brings me to a point.
in gaming there has always been a quest for perfect graphics
first flat then shaded then bumpmapped and specular
a few games tried to jumpthe gun by using digitised photos (max pain)
great at a distance but with no depth.
reflectivityy belongs on metal (polished) guns and water for the most part, simply adding reflective mapping and specular highlights to everything give a game a false feel, unfortuently in the quest for realism there losing there way.

now back to the main point.
360/ps3 they are amazing machines each in there own way, if criterion say there equal, which they have, will you please just listen and be done with this pointless war.

that being said
realistic graphics so far
ps3 gt 5 p im pretty sure they just stuck cars into the disc ,
uncharted dont look at the scenery to long youll get shot..
resitance. has that dark dirty feel and realistic style

360 forza again very impressive
h3 scifi shooter doesnt inovate much but is ok

these are just my picks
while i personyl think lair had good graphics as did ace 6 im a bit partial to my flying games so i wont count them

think on this and have whitepaper proof before you make outlandish comments like

mgs10 on game cube in 2000p or something be sensable and be friendly

[Raptors]

So let me get this straight...a developer for a PS3 exclusive game comes out and says the PS3 is very powerful and its all songs and praise. But when a 360 developer of a exclusive 360 game comes out its all biased?? You fanboys are way too much. Its ppl like you who has ruined this site. Both consoles are strong so stop with the garbage already.

[Primetimebt]

This is one thing I will never get why do 360 develophers all say it's so powerful but have yet to live up to all this power. I seen the trailer and it's not the second coming of christ or anything. I even guessing it's running less than 720 the only thing that made it look HD was the cut scenes but this is normal for the 360. The same thing was said with Ninja Gaiden and we all know how that turned out on the 360. The 360 is coming up to 3 year in the market and which by all means is top of the hill for any mircosoft product and all they have to show us is a 2 year old game, and better looking multiplatform games. Sad very sad.

[Sanhlami]

The only thing powerful is its ability to produce heat.

Yes I went there!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

"I can vouch for that!"

- Captain Murphy

[RAM MAGNUMS]

this is power?!?
Buy NoW!
beg your parents children all your friends bought
that line of crap.
Buy now!
all those ads on xboxlive & kids= bad combination.
too human is the showcase of power & too human is
full price with exclusive dlc.
buy now!
but don't forget to buy fracture either.
forget god of war3, too human is now!
Buy now & help m$ survive ps3's timetable.

Buy Now!
parents be firm with your children.
Don't let them touch your ps3.
Too Human?!?
This guy couldnt figure out how to make a nintendo game!
a decade of hype & crap look at that!
it just makes me laugh at the effort to convince kids
that $60 dollars is nothing to children because they want
a circle jerk game.

Oh, I just been awarded a trophie from psn!
Silver cup for red ringing a few more boxes with the truth!
I'm level 3 now!

[Neo604]

you can play last gen games and keep your house warm.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

If the 360 is powerful, my computer belongs at NASA.

[psnCAShville_615]

xbobx is gay, is nothing but a xbox2.4....hahaha microsoft paycheck - good words from developers! .. is like rich kid on the block!! he got money, he got alot of them....................

[SabreMan]

I cannot believe what i am reading, all the comments of how bad it is or it sucks about the demo of Too Human ???

i love the demo, the game feels so polished with stunning graphics and a great storyline, i can only conclude half the comments on here are based on nothing more than jumping on the band wagon or are just plain anti 360 as i doubt half the haters have even played the Too Human demo. to call Silicon Knights a bad developer is laughable,
does it make you feel better slagging off a demo/game you haven't played on a console you don't own, sad sad sad

for the record i have a 360 and a ps3 and love them both, they are equally as capable as the other

[CrizzleC24]

Ps3 users have known this since the battlefield bad company video comparison, then just a few days ago we all knew when bioshock's dev said that ps3 is so well made it almost looks just like the 360 version.

Face it the blu-ray disc doesnt make games look better, it just makes them longer (mgs4 super long cutscenes).

Here's an analogy (big word for compairison to make an example)

The 360 is a ferrari,

The Ps3 is a ferrari, but has a huge gas tank attached to it.

The huge gas tank doesnt make the ps3's ferrari go faster, just longer.

There I hope that you ps3 users understood my analogy. If you didnt then just post a comment talking about FFXIII,Killzone 2 or little big planet.

[SabreMan]

good analogy but i will pull you up on something if i may be so bold

i don't do video comparisons i use my own eyes to judge things, i am new to the 360 or atleast new in the sense of only recently getting one again since selling my first due to buying a ps3.
about the Battlefield comparison video, i have both versions of the game and using my own experience of playing and owning both and having a perfectly configured plasma screen for both consoles the ps3 version looks and plays better (this is my experience on my setup)

i am not bashing the 360 as i have just bought one but comparison videos rarely paint an accurate picture.
nor is this a dig at you at all so don't take it that way

[MUNKYPOO]

i agree with you sabreman. i to have both and have done my own comparison(from the demo). the comparison vid from gametrailers was spot on. but the other website have the ps3 washed out.

[tobin_blade]

360 may not be as powerful but its certainly got more playable games - the only thing i want on the PS3 is MGS4. I always had a PS & PS2 but i am really disappointed in the PS3 (not the console) but the lack of games and effort put into marketing.

[midgard229]

did any body say that the 360 wasnt strong'? its next gen, that idiot lol, peoples only prb with 360 is disc space and RROD other wise the console is perfectly fine as is the ps3......guy dyacks an idiot, prbly never even worked on the ps3

[Mr Marbles]

Relax, Dyak was probably asked by the journalist, what he thinks of the 360, or what was it like working on it, and Dyak simply responded.

Why does he have to be an idiot? Would it have made him less of an idiot in your eyes if he would have said working on the 360 was a drag because it is not as powerful as the PS3?

[EatingToast]

Can someone help me with my homework? It has been years since I have done this stuff in high school.

(-3x+2)-(xsquare+x-5)

[air1]

well if the 360 doesnt have power thaen why hasnt sony made the 360 look like crap? i mean, look at r2 and gears 2. if the ps3 is so damn powerful then whats up with r2 not crushing gears 2? isnt it supposed to be this super duper computer? end of all other consoles?