FFXV Episode Duscae Runs At 900p On PS4; XBO Screenshots Reveal Sub-800p Resolution – Report

GearNuke writes: "Final Fantasy XV Episode Duscae is currently out in North America for the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One."

[Gamer1982]

sub 800p?? Buts its above 720p?/ Why not just give its 720p and make it stable? I prefer stability over silly resolutions..

[Abash]

FFXV is an ambitious looking game, Im glad they are getting more out of the PS4's power at least. But I still hope they can at least get the PS4 to 1080p by release

[pivotplease]

It's partially open-world. I'm not holding my breath for a high resolution. It looks amazing and not even in the smoke-and-mirrors way that XIII looked amazing. It's actually a whole beautiful world that can be zoomed in on and undergoes drastic light changes through day/night cycles.

What I'm really concerned about is the story and gameplay. We haven't really had too much indication of how fun and strategic the game will be or which direction the story is headed in now that they've been keeping the story under wraps lately.

[_-EDMIX-_]

they can.....at the cost of quality. They have it at 900p likely to maintain the current quality they have.

If you play any game on PC, you'll notice you can play games at a greater quality with lower resolution, then with a higher resolution.

[Haru]

doesn't look that ambitious imo, only a big terrain map with flat texture all over the place the only high resolution models in the game are the characters

[SouljAx360]

They aren't getting that much more out of PS4. I'd rather have 720p with a stable FPS. Just got done playing the demo a little while ago and the framerate was pretty crazy.

[StarLord_Who]

Ambitious?

It's running on a last gen engine, this game should be 1080p 60fps. I've also heard a lot of criticism about the textures being "dated" and "unpolished."

this game should easily run 1080p 60fps.

That being said, i think the whole resoution debate is ridiculous. The resolution is something we as consumers should NOT be allowed to know, it just helps make a game look worse, even though nothing has really changed.

[Kumomeme]

@StarLord_Who
it was ambitious game...who said it run on last gen engine?it running on luminous studio engine,the engine square develop for next gen..
you didn't really follow recent updates right?

how you call those graphics last gen?its looks better than lot of open world game nowdays
beside ,even how old the engine is,doesnt mean it will has higher resolution and fps because it 'old' engine so the console could easily run?...higher fps and resolution not solely depends on the engine...you try put unreal engine 3 game and it might be still unable to reach stable 60fps..it was open world game,and lot of graphical effects need to be load with all those others information like animation and others stuff..also,it was not easy to make something run 60fps especially with those demanding ambitious visual

[badz149]

but but but...The Order...800p...

/s

nah...it's just a demo. the final version might not follow those resolution.

[DonFreezer]

Wait you hope the PS4 version will get there but you also hope the Xone stays the same so that you and your ps fanbase can troll?

[KnightRobby]

OMG. I am never buying another game again. Throwing away my Xbox 360 and PS3 collection now guys. I have the gasoline and match ready to go.

Goodbye my shitty Xbox 360 and PS3 subpar 720 games that are still to this day some of the best games made.

/sarcasm

[pivotplease]

I think people are just disappointed in the technical leap from last generation to this one. In a perfect world PS4 would have launched at $500 with slightly better specs and would play everything at 1080p, but they knew they were going to get undercut by the competition with that approach. It's a shame but I think the graphical leap will be amazing over the next two years anyway. Just playing FC4 and going back to FC3 is really eye-opening. FC3 looks like a pixelated deuce now.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

You can't be serious. You are really questionig why people have are unhappy with minimal improvement after 10 years?

[_-EDMIX-_]

"I think people are just disappointed in the technical leap from last generation to this one. In a perfect world PS4 would have launched at $500 with slightly better specs and would play everything at 1080p"

@pivotplease- well not really. Most people don't even get technically what is happening.

MOST people couldn't even name a list of next gen only titles.

MOST games released were cross gen or ports. We actually got few next gen only titles to even render such an opinion regarding how people feel on a "leap" I'm sorry but something like Aliens, The Evil Within, AC IV are NOT LEAPS! Thus...most peoples experiences with next gen machines are with games that are not fully next gen to begin with..

PS4's specs are fine....3.6TFLOPS of performance is unheard of and mind you...no PC game even requires such a spec to play a game.

1080p is a choice a developer makes...its game dependent NOT SYSTEM!

Buy a PC....play a game, set the game to 1080p, if it runs slow...turn off some features, lower the quality and surprise!

Hard right?

What do you think its happening to those games that actually RUN that setting on PS4 and XONE?

They are lowering quality to due so..

800p, 900p, 30fps etc.

Those settings are due to the high demand of the engine, its extremely powerful and they must make some adjustments to push graphical fidelity.

Now...lets say your on PC, you turning off features to make it look better? You lower quality to get 1080p and think its looks better?

You sure?

How do you know developers are not making engines that MAX OUT PS4 and XONE?

How do you know that even with a better GPU, they wouldn't just make A BETTER ENGINE! DO you not get that its again...GAME DEPENDENT?

Again...if you own a PC, you understand its not due to the system, its actually do to the engine and the power they are seeking to get from it.

PS4 has the performance of a 3.6tflop gpu, thus developers will make a game that seeks to max out such a gpu.

Why?

They will not look lessor to their competitors.

On a set GPU that you could ONLY max out HL2 in 1080p 60fps, you likely could only get Crysis at 720p 30fps....

Sorry but not only would Crysis always look better, but it would be more demanding to due so. THUS it would run lessor because the engine is BETTER!

Higher frames, higer res on a SET SYSTEM means the engine is less demanding.

Please...dear god next time please try to understand what someone deems as "next gen"

I'm sorry but HL1 at 1080p doesn't look better then Crysis at 720p.

To even use Far Cry as an example only further shows how little you know regarding engines.

Its a cross gen game, I would't even consider it next gen, even slightly. Its not ugly, but its clear it isn't what Witcher 3, Arkham Knight, Dead Island 2 etc are.

Thats like saying last gen was ugly because you played Gun, Tony Hawk Wasteland, Bully, etc on 360.

Judge next gen systems by NEXT GEN games please.

[sorane]

@edmix

"PS4's specs are fine....3.6TFLOPS of performance is unheard of and mind you...no PC game even requires such a spec to play a game."

I see you're still trying to convince people that ps4 has 3.6tf hahahaha Are you the sony version of Misterx or something? Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's only 1.7+tf and nothing more.

"PS4 has the performance of a 3.6tflop gpu, thus developers will make a game that seeks to max out such a gpu."

No it doesn't and I can't believe you're still posting this nonsense. I'd go over the rest that's wrong in your long post, but I have better things to do.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Sorane- http://www.gamespot.com/for...

annnnnnd

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

" performance-wise. And let's not forget that programming close to the metal will usually mean that we can get 2x performance gain over the equivalent PC spec" - Oles Shishkovstov Metro series developer

My mistake....

its 3.68TFLOPS.... lolz

"No it doesn't and I can't believe you're still posting this nonsense. I'd go over the rest that's wrong in your long post, but I have better things to do."

...you got a link? Sounds like the better things you should be doing is actually reading.

listed spec and performance are 2 different things.

On I build gaming computers and game on console. I very much know that on console they generally have 2x the performance of their listed GPU as on PC we have unoptimized parts.

Thus...on console those parts generally run faster much more powerful then their exact PC counter parts.

If you put the same GPU chip from a PC to a console, the console would performance 2x the TFLOPS as the PC as its fully optimized to solely run games.

Whats sad is....all you have to do is merely google what I'm talking about. This is factually known in the development community regarding consoles.

[sorane]

@edclueless

Seriously you really need to stop linking the same 2 old links everytime I prove you wrong. The Carmack one is from YEARS ago before the ps4 was even released and has NOTHING to do with todays tech and the second one is from a company who's OWN GAME doesn't take anymore PC power than what is in the ps4 to run better than the ps4. You are one delusional fanboy. Just point to ONE game that requires 3.6 tf on PC to run the same as ps4 settings? Well? Oh yeah you can't since even a $100 750ti runs games better than the PS4 and it's weaker in specs! Every single game released proves your posts 100% WRONG. At least misterx tries to fool people with his jibberish, you just come across as totally clueless. You're not fooling anyone by saying you're a pc gamer since you're obviously not.

[Kumomeme]

anyone who said there was minimal leapt between previous and current gen seriously wrong..

for example,last year gdc presentation enough to see lot of leapt from past gens..
the visual to me,compared to last gen quite a leapt since lof of game especially realtime gameplay achieved prerendered or near cgi level..

realtime cutscene gonna be standard compared to last gen

last gen,uc3 for example has 35k poly,ff13 alo around that with ff13-2 get lowered around 15k and now for ffxv we got 100k poly,same goes for infamous ss 120k,ryse 85k(originally it gonna run 150k)

far more animation bones...
atleast 10x resource on memory...
if you read last year gdc presentation,infamous ss already used 1.5gb memory just for texture and it was already big size(dont believe me,but those tech guys said so)
order 1886 used 2gb solely on texture and expect 3gb vram of gpu will be least minimal in future ..you can see lot of gpu coming with 4gbs vram already

more varied AA,last gen FXAA is the only things console could run with higher fps since other aa like msaa not only require stronger power also lot memory

subsurface scattering,cascaded voxel cone ray tracing might be norm,better hair in fur tech,better facial,new skin texture tech like recent SSSS
more dynamic light,global illumination..vfx,particle system,physics,AI,high quality post-processing effects
lot of games take open world road..expect more realistic and dynamic open world aspect that couldn't be done before like bigger, weather,ai and other stuff
also,how game devs making animation also gonna change,voice recording together with acting will be standard,like how it done in tlou and avatar movies

also,dont expect much on first wave of next gen console games...expect at the seconds..crytek ceo mention this..not me

put aside crysis 2,and other last gen pc games...pc had advantages due stronger hardware and memory,put aside resolution,fps and better texture but look at tech side..lot of pc game suffer from late of incoming next gen console...especially game that build so it could run last gen console specs together were suffers from grapical leapt..and most of pc games last gens were use not more than 2 core and 2gb of ram(of course,there was exeption to ambitous developers) but all of these gonna change in future.. 4 core 64bit game requirement will be normal things since lot of new games now already adopt that

there quite leapt not only in visual,also in lot of aspects

[never4get]

How can somebody know its sub-800p, yet not know the exact resolution? 792p? 721p? 799p? 899p? 144p?

[MRMagoo123]

Well sub 800p isn't going to be 899p so you can Check that off the list. It's probably some stupid rez like some other games have been on xbone like 792p.

[miyamoto]

720 p 60fps is okay

[UltraNova]

On my huge ass tv it will look like crap.

[WickedLester]

Jesus, who cares??

[TheParanoidx]

AMEN

[KUV1977]

Maybe Jesus's crazy brother Terry does...

[Th3o]

People have cared for 6 years with the Ps3 v. 360, it won't stop here. Especially since now they found something they can market.

I personally don't care when I'm gaming on TV, even 480p doesn't look TERRIBLE but if I were to play sub Resolution on a computer monitor I would notice the blur.

I will say this, Wish we would have waited another year or 2 for the next gen consoles and had them do native 1080p @ 60 fps.

It feels like most games that are 1080p and 60 fps are just recycled last gen games.

[turdburgler1080]

I have a solution. Go to the grocery store and buy a bag of peas. Just hear me out. Then duct tape said bag to the TV and viola! theoretically your p's are only limited to the size of the bag you can duct tape to the tv. Best deals for peas are probably at costco.

[_-EDMIX-_]

"Wish we would have waited another year or 2 for the next gen consoles and had them do native 1080p @ 60 fps"

LMFAO. I game on both console and PC.....its very, very clear you don't know what your taking about.

Doing 1080p 60fps isn't hard....

All you have to do is lower settings and turn off many features.

How do you know Square just didn't want their game looking like trash?

Do you not get when you seek that setting at what huge compromise it actually is?

Consoles are set hardware.

If you own a PC with a GPU that could ONLY max out HL1 in 1080p 60fps and to play Crysis, it would need to be 720p 30fps.....you sure that means HL1 had the better engine and development?

You sure it just doesn't mean that Crysis is more demanding and needs the power to create what you see at such a setting?

To have that game run that setting, it would mean it would look WORSE! Simply because its at a compromise to the graphics.

Again...take a PC game that is already maxed out at 720p 30fps and drop the settings to get it to run 1080p 60fps.

You sure you made it look "better" with less quality on settings?

LMFAO!

It just sounds to me like most gamers have no clue exactly that is happening. 1080p 60fps isn't hard bud, the reason you don't see it much with next gen only titles is because its at a HUGE graphical cost, a cost they sorta can't afford to make against other titles.

I mean...have you not seen the damn examples of 1080p 60fps games on PS4 and XONE?

GTASA ran 1080p 60fps on 360....

GTAV didn't.....

Yet...which one looks better bud?

GTAV doesn't run that not because it can't (as their ports run that)

because they making a new demanding engine that is better then the last.

If they wanted 1080p 60fps...they would have just used renderware.

Sorry but GTAV looks superior to GTASA.

Folks are crying now, but they haven on clue what they are talking about.

GTAVI will look like damn near real life and it will sell millions........and guess what? WON'T BE 1080p 60fps!

More demanding, less frame, less res.

Some gamers legit need to play BOTH PC and console to fully understand what they are talking about.

Trust me bud...1080p 60fps isn't a challange to achieve on my PC as it factors merely turning features off.

Developers are choosing not to downgrade quality for mere numbers.

The Last Of Us and GTAV last gen very much proved that new demanding engines are what the people want, not dated looking crap JUST to run a setting MOST have no damn clue about. Most can't even see this difference, if you tell me its some sort of challenge, you already show you know little of what you speak lol.

Played TF2 at 100fps 1080p....(every turned off on lowest quality)

Sorry but it looks like trash at that setting. Gamers seem to be crying over a feature they likely barely even understand at the cost of.

[Th3o]

@_-EDMIX-_

You're missing my point completely.

Also you're all over the place with your thought process.

If you're going to get technical then I would suggest you research how hardware works and what a dev kit is before you simply start comparing engines and settings.

[slate91]

It's funny people will say what their top video games are and then they are probably no where near these resolutions. Yet the same people are waving the resolution flag on today's comment sections

[GarrusVakarian]

That argument makes no sense and sounds to me like the kind of logic that only someone gaming at sub-800p would come up with. Lmao.

For example, let's say one of my favourite game of all time is GTA: San Andreas on PS2 (which it is)...that game ran at nowhere near any of these resolutions, but I wouldn't have cared back then because the resolutions we see today would never have been available to me back then as a console gamer.

But now that we're in an age where 1080p is becoming the norm for console gaming, and one of the consoles is considerably more powerful than the other, so if I have the choice to go with a version that looks slightly better...why wouldn't I?

Just like if I had the option to play San Andreas at a higher res than what I played it at, I would have. Not a hard concept to understand really. And the only people who say it doesn't matter each gen are the people who game on lower resolutions due to their console of choice being weaker. Last-gen the PS3 gamers were saying this, now it's the X1 gamers. The cycle continues.

[Eiyuuou]

@Lukas_Japonicus

I'm a PC/PS4 gamer and I don't care about resolutions.

I won't even notice the difference between 1080p and 900p unless one would put two pictures next to each other.

Just keep the FPS steady, that's all I ask.

[slate91]

@lukas
Thank you for turning my comment into a ps4 vs xbox one debate lol my goodness. I rest my case.

Unless you are 40 (and that wouldn't be a negative), you probably didn't know what resolution was back when you were playing San Andreas! Cause I sure didn't lol. Not when I was enjoying classics like zelda, gta, super smash 1 and melee, golden eye.
We need to get back to appreciating what we have, instead of bashing everything for what it doesn't have.

[Saigon]

@slate91

I disagree with your last statement because during GTA: SA I was just out of college and I did care about resolution then. I wanted to experience the game at its highest resolution at the time. Though that was the case I wasn't a resolution whore. I only wanted certain games at its highest resolution, pretty much the games I truly cared about during that time. Mainly because I wanted to experience the games as they were intended. I remember trying to find the gold plated component cables so my PS2 would give the perfect connection.

[TheTwelve]

I care.

Just to answer your question.

[Crystallis]

^^^^^

this

[WickedLester]

Why? Does it honestly affect your enjoyment of the game? If so then you're doing it wrong.

[starchild]

Cool, a fellow PC gamer.

*looks at comment history*...wait, you're not a PC gamer. Does not compute.

[magiciandude]

^

Many Sony fans that gloat about 1080p in the average Xbox One articles are not PC gamers. Many PC gamers also have moved on to 1440 displays and better by this point. 1080p is old news for PC gamers since long before this generation launched.

[TheTwelve]

Look at all the bored people telling me how I should enjoy my hobby!

Go play videogames or something.

[MysticStrummer]

"Does it honestly affect your enjoyment of the game?"

I bought a large screen TV capable of 1080p, therefore I want my games to get as close to that resolution as possible.

"(generic PC gamer comments in a console article)"

I don't care about gaming on my PC and I don't intend to use a computer monitor to play my PS4. I can care about resolution yet not give a damn about 1440p.

[JasonKCK]

If you really cared you would have bought a PC. Fact is most that say they care and only own consoles, are only using it to try and justify their arguments. While console only gamers argue over pixels, the entire PC community is just laughing at it. Framerate is far more important in gaming than resolution.

[Eiyuuou]

The 20+ people who disagreed your comment.

[MasterCornholio]

People who own multiple systems do. I dont see why they would stop caring all of a sudden.

[styferion]

well, the people who buy console because of multiplatform titles care...

[MysticStrummer]

"who cares??"

http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/...

The sales numbers would seem to indicate that many people care.

[SaveFerris]

I'm sure Jesus would say that he cares, after all, some book mentioned his character dying on a cross for our sins. Or something like that.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Enough with these resolution articles... Holy shit... Who the hell cares? Just play the damn game and don't worry about how it looks

[kurruptor]

Ya who cares. Why do we even buy 1080p tvs. Why go bluray? Throw your 4k monitor in the trash with your dual graphics cards.

720p has no advantage over 1080p.

/sarcasm

[MetroidFREAK21]

Yeah I don't play PC, guess what consoles I have hooked up to my HDTV besides my Xbox One? A Sega Dreamcast, SNES, and a GameCube. All running on their original AV cables. You remember those right? The red, yellow, and white cable. I couldn't care any less how the resolution looks on my 4K rated television because I'm the type of gamer that simply plays games. Sure I love great looking games, Battlefield 4 and Metal Gear Solid 5 Ground Zeroes look fantastic on my TV, and they both are sub 1080p. I really don't care about this whole resolution issue with the consoles. Nearly 2 years later, we're still getting articles on this crap. C'mon now, I'm sure you're tired of it too. /Truth

[kurruptor]

Well, speak for yourself then because a lot of people do care.

I would question why you have a 4k television if resolution doesn't matter to you?

[dolphin_supreme]

resolution matters because people are paying $300-500 for these "next gen" machines. Consumers deserve better than a sub-par machine (goes for all consoles). Graphics is one of those categories and doesn't deserve to be ignored or thought down upon.

[EvilWay]

Who gives a shit honestly? We know that neither console is that powerful stop informing us

[Kal-V3]

Guy 1: So i wanna buy this car, is it safe, fast, reliable?

Guy 2: Na, dude the paint job sucks, don't buy it.

Guy 1: it's ok, as long as it works and drives well and does what i need it to do...

Guy 2: NA MAN the paint job! It sucks, its holding back all other cars paint jobs. don't buy it!

Guy 1: But if i like how the car drives and......
Guy 2: PAINT JOB!!!!

;P

[firelogic]

I'm not going to buy a car with a crappy paint job. I assume you own a PS4. Would you buy one that had a huge crack in the case? The internals are perfectly fine. Works like any other PS4 but the case has a massive crack in it. Yeah I didn't think so.

[Software_Lover]

............ yeah, at a discounted price.

[Kal-V3]

Im actually talking about the resolution debate. The paint job represents the resolution. A crack in a PS4 is not a good comparison to what i was trying to say because a bad paint job is not damage, a crack in the PS4 casing is.

[Loktai]

@Kal-V3

A bad paint job is damage, the finish of the car protects the metal and a bad looking car is also a cop magnet not to mention we're talking about NEW PRODUCTS HERE Not old products.

USED CARS = OLD GAMES, WE LOVE THEM EVEN IF THE GRAPHICS(paint job) ISNT as impressive as it used to be

NEW CARS = NEW GAMES . We rightly expect them to represent new, proper looking games and nobody is bitching about indi games (sub-compact economy cars? :/ ) But when a AAA games are seeing this people are going to at least mention it.

[Dark_king]

If the paint job sucks I want it at a cheaper price and would get it at one.To bad games don't work that way would stop some of this BS I have been seeing.

[Loktai]

No. the logic would be "Car paint jobs are shitty and the cars rust pretty fast, should we support the car company using good paint to promote the idea that good paint is something a consume might expect?"

You: No as long as it drives well

Me:Who cares if there is a car that drives EQUALLY as well with better paint or that it wont in any way HARM the drivability or safety of the car to have good paint

You: LALALALALALALALAALA I CANT HEAR YOU ;P

[Kal-V3]

@loktai. I was just trying to crack a joke but fair enough. :P (to the first comment , not the one right above this one).lol

[Yukonsbud]

You just had to start the car comparison to next gen consoles didnt you? lol

[Kal-V3]

I'm so sorry.. :\
lol

[Spotie]

Your "joke" fails because it doesn't consider another car that works as well, if not better, that's for the same price and doesn't have a crappy paint job.

Why the hell would anybody pick the one worth the crappy paint job over the one with the good passion paint job, all other things being (relatively) equal?

[LexHazard79]

I want to know what happened from last yr til now...PS4 was hitting 1080p on a consistent basis. Xbox One seemed to be turning the corner with more 1080p titles. This yr comes along and PS4 now is doing 900p and Xbox doing sub 800p..wth!?! I usually don't care what games look like, but the more articles i read the more annoyed I get about it.
Its like we are going backwards....and not forward.

Now I feel like I want more remakes atleast we know those will run @ 1080p

[OldDude]

Games are taxing the systems resources harder. More effects, smarter AI, more developed backgrounds and artwork. While console mfg's constantly strive to improve development tools its going to have a hard time keeping up with advancements in games graphics. This is why people upgrade their PC as games are constantly evolving. Open world for instance is a harder hit on system resources and games seem to be by far and large moving in that direction. Also the X1 and PS4 are not the technology leap that you saw compared to the PS2/PS3 and Xbox/360 era. Personally I believe this will be a short generation as the two primary present systems are going to be pushed to their maximum abilities soon due to them being easier to develop for.

That being said consoles are not cutting edge when it comes to tech, they are however an excellent value and even 900p at a stable/high framerate can make for a very enjoyable graphics experience. If you wish for higher, do what a lot of us here do and build a PC for multiplats and PC exclusives.

[Letthewookiewin]

^^^^Yes

[Moldiver]

And this is why both companies should have gone for something better than the jaguar APU.

I REALLY hope this is a 5-6 year cycle before next gen consoles are announced. In the meantime. Lets just enjoy the games.

[LexHazard79]

Probably will take advice. I think this is the yr I finally do build a rig. Ive been a long time gamer, always considered PC the next step, and I think its time.
Plus I want to be able to say I have a nice rig.

+well said

[theXtReMe1]

I'm watching a live feed video of the PS4 version on twitch and it looks $&@?!/! phenomenal. I don't care what resolution it's running at, it still looks good. Any bitching is in vain, because this is an unfinished product running on an unfinished engine. So it's only going to get better from here on out. But the fact that the demo looks so good and runs fairly smooth is a testament to the game we are going to be playing when the final version releases.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I will just put out a guess that sub 800 means 792p similar to what Titanfall came out at.

[Svinya]

1408x792 isn't bad. It's fairly close to 1600x900.

[MasterCornholio]

When's the game supposed to come out?

If its a long ways away then I'm sure they will be able to improve this. But I still expect the PS4 to pull ahead.

[Vasto]

PC Master Race wins again.

[Eiyuuou]

I'm afraid your "PC Master Race" isn't competing in this round.

[Qrphe]

FFXV runs way better on PC at 0p0fps

[Haru]

Have fun playing this on your pc!

[LightDiego]

Try beg for a version to play this game then, right now it's not possible.

[Elda]

I noticed playing the PS4 version last night it wasn't visually sharp & was asking myself this couldn't be in full 1080p,now it's confirmed though the demo still looks gorgeous.Hopefully it'll run in 1080p when released.

[Lon3wolf]

Boring, NEXT!

[Kingdomcome247]

I imagine that there is still at least a year's time for them to do optimizations, and squeeze a little more out of each platform.

[hkgamer]

lets all remember that this is a demo, the engine isn't even fully completed yet so they still have ways to improve before the final game. they would also put effort into optimisation.

i expect xbone to be atleast 900p and hope ps4 would aim for 1080p. both probably have the same resolution though.

[akaFullMetal]

900p vs 792p it looks like this time, hopefully they can bring the rez up before the game comes out. But to be honest I am very suprised at the xbox's performance, I expected more.

[GMR_PR]

And you aren't surprised with the PS4 performance? This console are both underpowered.

[akaFullMetal]

The ps4 gets games most the time to 1080p 90% of the time so it isn't too jarring seeing some games drop below that to 900p for the ps4. But xbox usually has 900p which is good but drops to 720p sometimes which is very surprising since the xboxone gpu is 5x stronger than the 360.

[GMR_PR]

So now 900p is ok. Gotta love the double standard around here.

[akaFullMetal]

When did I say 900p was bad? Or are you saying then that xbox one games at 900p and lower are bad?

720p:
BF4
BF:Hardline
COD:Ghost
PES2015
Ground Zeroes
Killer Instinct Season 1 ( patched later to 900p)
Dead Rising 3
Ea NHL 2015
The Golf Club

792p:
Titanfall
Watch Dogs

Are you saying these games are bad?
Show me a game on ps4 that is lower than 900P?

[Silly gameAr]

Playstation Too. It doesn't matter that one performs better then the other. Let's just be equal and call both consoles terrible so I don't make my preferred console look bad.

That's what I think when I read comments like yours GMR_PR.

[GMR_PR]

@Silly gameAr

"Let's just be equal and call both consoles terrible so I don't make my preferred console look bad"

But I prefer PS4 :/

But saying you are surprised because of one of them performance is bad and not saying anything about the other is just plain hypocrisy. Or do you think that is only the One that is underperforming?

[Silly gameAr]

I didn't read anywhere in my comment where I said "the One" (seriously) is the only one underanything. I said that your comment sounds like dozens of other comments where people try to lump the consoles together and try to call them both inferior, even if one is performing better then the other. Rather it be the PS4 or "the One." Don't try to twist my words.

[GMR_PR]

@Silly gameAr

It doesn't matter what you think or not of what my comment sounded like, that's your opinion and I could careless, what its a fact is, that based on what this companies promised with their new consoles, they are both under delivering. That was the whole point of my post. Saying you are surprised with one and not the other, like I said before is plain hypocrisy.

[Silly gameAr]

Seems like you care enough to accuse someone of being a hypocrite, which I'm not even sure (or really care) how you came to that conclusion.

I'm not surprised or let down with how any of my consoles perform, and don't remember saying I was. They do exactly what I want them to do, and that's play games.

[hello12]

The frame rate has issues and can drop during effect heavy scenes. There is lack of AF resulting in blurred textures over distance.

Which of the two consoles is performing worst really? We have known for ages the console suffering with AF problems is the PS4!

[tekksin]

I think it's trying to communicate.

[tekksin]

I'm just excited for this game. After the order, I'm getting treated to this AND bloodborne? Talk about the end of the gaming drought. Seriously, I haven't had the urge to play anything since infamous (screw that final boss battle).

I feel almost spoiled. A missing 90 pixels on an unfinished game graciously given as a demo in a setting that won't be in the final game is more than enough to hold me over and keep me from being a jaded loser on N4G pretending to complain about things that don't matter.

[MonkeyOne]

You're not going to get 1080p all the time with 1.6 / 1.7 GHZ CPU's.

There are laptop CPU speeds.

[sephiroth420]

lol and there was me thinking the videos people were uploading were just shit quality

[obmas]

yup, the graphics definitely took a noticeable hit with a resolution to 900p. anyone who cant tell the difference from 1080p is blind

[mochachino]

I honestly don't care if a game is 900p, so much more goes into how good a game looks. Besides, framerate is more important.

[benji101]

Oh jeez.... urm.. I have some bad news for you... Urm it appears the PS4 and xbox 1... their urm.. how can I say this.. urm.. their frame rate.. it it it... it is sh---t

[mochachino]

Well I'm not sure how much better a variable framerate is either, which is very common on PC. Jumps cause stutters.

[DarXyde]

As long as it runs stably, I have no complaints. Games like Revelations 2 have no excuse for frame dips considering how ugly it is.

In terms of resolution because graphics are soooooo important to console gamers, consider that Shadow of the Colossus was an amazing game on PS2 that was beautiful but ran TERRIBLY. It was choppy and at times bordering unplayable. Not what one would call the wisest trade-off. The HD remaster made amends for that which I'm eternally grateful for. Regardless, still an awesome game that traded fluidity for visual emphasis.

I don't mind the game running at sub-optimal resolutions if it means running smoothly. It'll still be beautiful and very well-rendered. It's also Square's first big PS4/XBOX One title, meaning they'll learn some new techniques to get the most out of them going forward.

Honestly, there are so many games on PS4 and XBOX One that are also on PC that, if you truly, honestly, and sincerely care so much about resolutions, you would be remiss in not silencing your complaints by investing in a PC.

[benji101]

If you want stable frame rates I would also recommend a PC. These consoles.. I feel bad for the people who bought them.. People could have saved the money and bought a pc. With in one year the steam sales would make up the price difference for a hardcore gamer.

[DarXyde]

30+ fps is fine. I'm not particular. Resolution is the least of my concerns.

I don't regret buying my consoles since I'm probably cashing out after this generation anyway.

[Petebloodyonion]

The problem isn't resolution for theses ppl.
Actually for the most they don't care it's just that the ps4 is stronger in that area compare to the Xbox one that they need to convince themselves that this is super uper important!

It's funny how they can see the 1 missing pixel in the screen or how they can count the pixels from a screenshot but don't seem to see the compression artifacts in a playstation now game.

The point is. resolution matter as long as it's on console and ps4 show a bigger number compare to XBOX one (if not the game isn't demanding or properly optimize for ps4 thus suck).

[DarXyde]

I'm not really sure why you got a disagree. Personally, I agree with what you said. I prefer PlayStation, but people are highly unlikely to tell what a game runs at without some form of technical confirmation. You put two screens side by side and you'll know right away one runs at a higher resolution, but in a practical everyday scenario, no one is going to notice. It took a formal analysis to realize Killzone Shadow Fall wasn't 1080p after all. No one, I reiterate, NO ONE was saying, "I can see the pixels! This game is NOT 1080p!" before that analysis.

I'm satisfied with my consoles. Games are made on the current generation consoles where if one version is broken, they're both broken and if one runs acceptably, they both do.

But to be fair, some games are legitimately poorly optimized. Especially games like Dead or Alive Last Round, Resident Evil Revelations 2, and a few others. Those games are not at all what I would call technically demanding and I strongly believe are cases of sincerely bad optimization.

It doesn't matter to me if an XBOX One version of a game runs slightly better or whatever lol. As long as I can play it without frustration (30+fps, 720p+ resolution), I can deal. Then again, I grew up in the 8-bit era so I've never been brutally picky. Won't start now which is why I don't have a PC suited for gaming. All I care about is fun. PSOne and PS2 were always weaker than the competition and I still found those games incredibly memorable. Likewise, I actually really enjoy the Wii U. I should clarify that if a game is 720p, I expect 60fps and if it's 30fps, I expect about 900p.

[AsunaYuukiTheFlash]

The FPS drop is atrocious in this demo. S-E better fix this shit before launch.

[Ken85]

Gamer's these days are so entitled. Last of Us of Ps3 ran at 720p not to long ago and people coined it one of the best looking games out there. Then, everyone got hype over the FF15 screenshots and gameplay. If the game is 900p vs 1080p it doesn't matter. It does not have any large effect on the game itself. Its not fair or smart to look at the game negatively for something it doesn't have. Frame rate is different because that's an actual thing that affects gameplay.

[georgenancy]

its not about entitlement,these are the so-called 'nextgen' consoles for goodness sake.720P should be a distant memory by now,its 2015!!!!

[Ken85]

Next gen on consoles must mean something diffrent to you then me, because my idea of next gen is a sufficient and noticeable upgrade from the previous gen and these consoles show that easily. Look at cross gen titles like NBA 2k15 and GTAV and tell me that we haven't made a sufficient upgrade

[Ken85]

Your entitled because your asking for something that was never promised to you and that you only want just to say you have it. Then you give great looking games flack for some pixels and not then ame itself. It's ridiculous.

[lemoncake]

Do you even know what entitlement implies? seems you do not and are just throwing random buzz words in for the sake of it.

[Tauriel]

After waching that summon video, nothing will stop me getting this game.

[Mr_Luke]

I thought it was going to be 1080p on the PS4.... bah. While i was expecting something like that on the Xbone, i just hope those number are not the final ones (even if i doubt they will "grow").

[cabinotier]

1080p60fps guys ..... I miss you.

[sheepskin]

It's because of people like Ken85 that game developers and publishers are constantly getting away with delivering a shitty, sub-par product these days.

It doesn't matter whether or not resolution is affecting game play. It's a standard that any critically thinking human being is entitled to expect from a game developer in 2015: 1080p and at least 30 stable FPS. If you say that you don't care, fine, that's your choice. However, I'd say the majority does care to be not screwed over by developers week after week, all year long, trying to downplay the fact that they're either incapable of achieving a "next gen resolution" or don't have enough resources to do so. And people who buy into this shit are turned into mindless sheeps and customer drones who will buy anything and then justify their purchase by saying that resolution doesn't matter and absolve the developer from failing to live up to a simple and legit expectation.

Of course the resolution is not the most important thing in a game, but it is still a significant quality factor and a testament of a game developer's skills to deliver a high quality product. But by constantly ignoring this fact and buying these games anyway, you give developers NO incentive whatsoever to try harder or deliver what's expected THESE days and not back then in PS2 or PS3 times where everyone's expectation where lower in relation to the hardware capabilities in that era.