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Microsoft Will Outperform This Year if It Really Does Sell Xbox

TheStreet TV's Jack Mohr has already found his top European stocks to own in 2015. Now he's looking for the top five S&P 500 stocks to own in the new year.

Mohr has already said his fifth stock is social media juggernaut Facebook (FB) and No. 4 is the struggling financial giant Citigroup (C) . Who's third? Microsoft (MSFT) , Mohr said Wednesday.

One of the big catalysts going into the new year also happens to be somewhat of a "bold prediction," he said -- speculating that Microsoft would spinoff its Xbox business.

Xbox is near the top of its sales cycle, meaning Microsoft would likely fetch top dollar for the entity. Not that the $88.7 billion in cash and short-term investments are small by any means, but a spinoff of Xbox would give the tech giant even more cash. This could allow for an increase in its dividend or potentially in the company's share buyback program.

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Foehammer3411d ago (Edited 3411d ago )

Well MS is now the 2nd most valuable company on earth

recently passing Exxon Moble

http://www.foxbusiness.com/...

The Xbox is too intrenched in MS to go anywhere, Say hello Cortona

The Xbox division has been highly profitable since 2008 inclusive.

And the brand has just had it's best year ever

increasing marketshare by around 50% from the 360.

ppl buy other money making MS licensed products to go along with their new console:

-XBL
-second controller
-play and charge kit
-Kinect tv stand
-more games

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BG115793411d ago (Edited 3411d ago )

Wait wait... Only second???
But, weren't they number one when Bill Gates was in command? When did they lost the number one place? Because you're saying now "are now second". So they were third before that or something?

DOMination-3410d ago

They were never first. Oil companies such as Shell have always domimated the top 5 and now we see a lot of Chinese companies closing in. MS have done well to stay up there.

dazina3410d ago

@DOMination. Your wrong, Microsoft were first. in 1999 - There worth was 620 Billion. Infact if you take into account inflation it is arguable that no company has ever been worth more than microsft at it's peak (Including Apple).

BitbyDeath3411d ago

'The Xbox is too intrenched in MS to go anywhere'

Satya Nadella does not agree with you.

http://www.forbes.com/sites...

Naga3411d ago (Edited 3411d ago )

“Xbox isn’t that far from [the core]. We can do a few more things than the core. But the point is, you’ve got to have a culture to do it. I want us to be comfortable to be proud of Xbox, to give it the air cover of Microsoft, but at the same time not confuse it with our core.”
- Nadella, also from that article.

Satya Nadella may not view it as "core" per se, but he certainly doesn't view it as dispensable. It's obvious that Xbox isn't their "core", as it doesn't comprise the bulk of their corporate profit. However, it is creating a substantial profit. So, although it isn't untouchable in the broader scheme of things, it will continue to remain an essential asset of the company for the foreseeable future.

BitbyDeath3411d ago (Edited 3411d ago )

Not being core though means it is not intrenched in the business as FoeHammer put it.

XanderZane3411d ago

Nadella says this.
"“Xbox isn’t that far from [the core],” he told the publication. “We can do a few more things than the core. But the point is, you’ve got to have a culture to do it.

“I want us to be comfortable to be proud of Xbox, to give it the air cover of Microsoft, but at the same time not confuse it with our core.”

I don't think it's going anywhere. Obviously Windows and all their other major software app and tools are their 'CORE' business. The phones, tablets, etc.. aren't their 'core' business either. I doubt they would sell this brand with over 85 million gamers supporting it.

BitbyDeath3411d ago

I'm not saying it will sell, i'm just proving it is not intrenched.

I have no horse in this race.

IrishSt0ner3411d ago

This rearing it's head again. Nadella has refuted this continually since he's been CEO. Give up.

http://www.forbes.com/sites...

2v13411d ago

dsmn see this Quote

"leaves Xbox as something of an outsider. Thankfully it’s still a very popular, recognizable outsider."

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OrangePowerz3411d ago

Doesn't matter what marketshare the console has. If shareholders make more money by having Xbox spunoff compared to keeping it as is they will want to have it spunoff.

AKissFromDaddy3411d ago

That's nonfactual. Microsoft is valued on the market today, 1/15/2015, as of 4PM EST at 374.9B and Exxon is at 376.7B.

Chaos-Dad3411d ago

"The Xbox division has been highly profitable since 2008 inclusive. "

http://www.escapistmagazine...

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BenqMagician3411d ago

Too be honest if it did happen that they did sell it everyone who has a X1 and is going too buy a X1 in the future would find it really hard too trust that company who buys it.

Also there chances who winning this gen would be very slim and they would loose millions or even billions in the long term trying too make a profit or even making there money back at all. Not many companies can take that chance like MS did.

bleedsoe9mm3411d ago (Edited 3411d ago )

selling and spinning off are not remotely the same thing , not that either is going to happen .

pompous3411d ago

You don't know that. It could happen either way. And the reason it could is there already has been talks of it in the investors meetings. That's how that truthfact rumor started. Xbox division has been making money but ultimately is still in the red for the entire division. 13yrs or so of a division in the red is not good no matter which way you spin it and the investors are getting sick of the LARGE sums of money the Xbox division needs and bleeds just to make a VEY VERY small return on investment. Spending billions to just make millions or to break even is not good enough for the money needed to get there.

bleedsoe9mm3411d ago (Edited 3411d ago )

spinning off is possible for both sony and microsoft , but they only do it to make more money , its done from a position of strength . selling brands that are so synonymous with the mother company makes no sense for them or the potential buyer .

jrshankill3410d ago

Faaaaaaaaanbooooooooooy comment number 2. You are on a role.

Seeing as Sony Corp. is in the red, you really can't talk about a single MS division.

OrangePowerz3411d ago (Edited 3411d ago )

True on the first thing that they are not the same. Spinning off would give a better view of how much money the division actually spends and how much profit it actually makes.

OpieWinston3411d ago

Xbox is a massive financial burden and selling that is highly unlikely.

They'd shut it down before they tried to spin it off.

OpieWinston3411d ago

You must be if you don't understand what the brand would cost and inherit.

How many Microsoft Studios attached to the brand?
How many IPs attached to the brand?
Research and Development?
Employee numbers

Selling it off would be a hard sell when not a lot of companies have the finances to BUY and support the brand.

N4G crowd are really slow when it comes to this topic aren't you?

Who would be the potential buyers with the money? Their competitors for the living room battle.

Google? Apple?

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate3d ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16243d ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg2d ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC2d ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

PSPSA2d ago

I'm not convinced, why then announce that they're actually working on the next-generation Xbox with “the largest technical leap”, and also looking into handhelds now?

Rols2d ago

Not like MS don’t drop things a hot potato if it is not performing. Look at MS history to see products or platforms discontinued. Xbox is not a charity for MS, it needs to make money and the ABK was the last roll of the dice for Xbox.

purple1012d ago

Xbox hardware team members have been incorporated into surface team

This perhaps shows they are not expecting big things from Xbox as a separate entity

Abear212d ago

Seems like they are planning to win next gen. All the acquisitions were this generation and nobody except Xbox fans expect games from the acquisitions any time soon.

I’m sure Microsoft can afford to lose money on the short term, pretty sure they do risk assessment when acquiring many companies and spending billions, they’ll be fine lol.

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gold_drake3d ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit3d ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS3d ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies3d ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT3d ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor3d ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff21833d ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot3d ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit3d ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal3d ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS3d ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box3d ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

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Relientk775d ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE4d ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7304d ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor4d ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos4d ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor4d ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos4d ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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