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Hatred dev talks about bringing its controversial shooter to PS4 and Xbox One

Controversial new shooter featuring mass murder of civilians could make it to consoles, confirms indie studio.

FasterThanFTL3503d ago (Edited 3503d ago )

GOTY 2015, screw Uncharted 4, The Witcher 3, Batman: Arkham Knight, Mass Effect 4 etc. Hatred is going to rule them all.

zeal0us3503d ago

You forgot the /s or j/k

This game will probably get a AO rating or catch bad press.

Yi-Long3503d ago

The game doesn't look all that interesting to me, gameplay-wise, and main character also doesn't appeal to me...

... but just like with movies, books, tv-shows, and other form of artistic expression, it's good that there's a wide variety of genres, stories, subjects, etc etc...

... which means that even if a game looks to score mostly because of 'shock-value' and media-attention and all that, it's still important that the industry is mature enough to allow for that.

Spenok3503d ago (Edited 3503d ago )

Their reasoning behind why they are making this game is so convoluted and misguided it's ridiculous. These guys need mental help.

badz1493503d ago

I think they should just keep this on pc

TomShoe3503d ago

People are kicking up a fit over this game, yet going on a rampage in GTA is A-OK? It's gonna get an AO if only because of the bad press.

Don't like it, don't buy it.

MuhammadJA3503d ago

I may not agree with the devs' point of view, but I REALLY hate it when people are told what and what not to develop.

Devs should have total freedom in the gaming industry, and if someone is offended by a certain game, tough luck then. Get lost and buy something else.

nX3503d ago

He didn't forgot the sarcasm tag, I'm almost sure that this troll can identify with the main character. His comments paint a very sad picture.

Bimkoblerutso3503d ago (Edited 3503d ago )

@Tomshoe

Motivation and context is a very large portion of our moral compass. GTA has never been a game centered around killing innocent people. It has always only ever been a byproduct of the open design...well, for the most part, anyway.

I think I'm with most other gamers on this one, though. I have nothing against the game getting released, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I have absolutely no interest in playing it, nor do I have any respect for the artistic merits of these kinds of shock tactics.

DevilOgreFish3503d ago

zeal0us -

"This game will probably get a AO rating or catch bad press."

well it's definitely going to attract the press like flies on hot crap, if this gets a port. it's too graphic for even politicians to ignore if they get involved, and that's when it all hits the fan.

sucks, graphics look pretty good, i like the black and white style of it. not so much the story.

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ArchangelMike3503d ago (Edited 3503d ago )

I doubt this will get green lit by either Sony or Microsoft. They are not that desperate for games on their platforms, and they don't court this kind of media controversy.

Yi-Long3503d ago

TBH though, they should. Or else it would be the same as stores banning horror-movies or slasher-movies like SAW, or bookstores banning books which content they don't agree with, etc etc.

We don't want censorship. We want good games, and we want to judge for ourselves if a game is interesting and good enough to warrant a purchase.

Personally, this game doesn't look very interesting to me. However, there are also many movies which personally I wouldn't be interested in, because of it's overly violent content and shock-value tactics.

However, I believe that just because -I- might find it sick and disturbing and not enjoyable, that doesn't mean it should be 'banned' completely. Absolutely not. I strong disagree with censorship and such.

Antifan3503d ago

There are very few games that can put me on edge. Dead Space, resident evil, silent hills etc never disturbed me at all, because it wasn't realistic. But this game, Hatred, has disturbed me beyond any other game, and this is only a trailer.
I'm 100% sure I will buy it because of its disturbing atmosphere alone. I really don't care if the developers are neo-nazis or antihumanist, whatever. The game looks like a rush, and I love rushes.

ardivt3503d ago

this is why we can't have nice things

Opticstrike3502d ago

OMG.. they made a game that only focusing on Man slaughter.. and the first thing you think about is: This is goty? Oh man... you got no class at all

Crysie3502d ago

How can you even compare those games with this? Seems like you play this game form above?

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Gazondaily3503d ago (Edited 3503d ago )

If this does get released, I expect this to have a strong cult following. The release on consoles will only serve to exacerbate any media frenzy against it, which it will inevitably attract.

Also, there is some concerning stuff about the dev behind this game, his association with far-right neo-nazi groups etc.

I think this game is unnecessary and takes violence too far by virtue of its premise.

OC_MurphysLaw3503d ago

Very much agree. Sometimes in life you just need to take a step back and say no. I wont keep anyone from making "their" game but in the same breath I don't have to support it either just because it's made.

ArchangelMike3503d ago

Yeah, the more I hear about the developer, the more the game sounds like neo-nazi racist propaganda. Gamers need to be discerning enough not to accept every bit of tripe that masquerades as a game.

Heck the Al-Qaeda/ISIS games at least have more 'story' and 'context' behind them. If we are able to recognise and reject those as unacceptable extremist propaganda, then we should equally reject 'Hatred' as such.

mhunterjr3503d ago

I think it would get exposure from media outlets, but I don't think it would sell well... it doesn't look fun.

Violence porn does have a 'cult following' generally, but the economics associated with releasing a console game wouldn't make for a good business case here.

Not to mention the esrb would probably rate it Adult Only, which is a console game death sentence.

aerisbueller3503d ago (Edited 3503d ago )

Do you have any sources for that neo-nazi thing? My initial googling finds articles mentioning them as neo-nazis, but other articles saying it like it 'seems' like it's a game made by neo-nazis. Do we know if they really are?

The game itself actually looked kinda fun for a minute, but the authenticity of the sounds of people screaming for their lives, and the animation and art for the closeup headshots seems like it'd make it uncomfortable for me personally to play.

I don't think the game shouldn't be allowed to be made, and I don't think video games cause violence directly, but there are people out there that are already crazy, and just need a little bit of inspiration to go out and do something monstrous. Clearly this could inspire someone already close to the edge, and I think it's a bit irresponsible to celebrate violent hatred because 'durrhurr, we wanted to do something different', and reprehensible to do it for the more probable reason of 'durrhurr, we want attention/money'.

Dark_Overlord3503d ago

Nope, they're not Neo Nazis, these idiots got it wrong and everyone ran with it

http://www.playerattack.co....

Look at the paltry apology at the bottom of the page they offer :/

Qrphe3503d ago

There is no evidence that points to this, just bandwagoners promoting because they heard someone somewhere mention it.

jambola3499d ago

Almost took your comment seriously until the "durrhurr" part.

mt3502d ago

if it was a movie no one will say anything and it will just get R-rated. why do we have double standard ?

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johny53503d ago

Again, where were these people when Postal 3 came out? Not much controversy on it's release!

mhunterjr3503d ago

Postal was very cartoony, this is comparatively far darker, as the developer clearly aimed for 'disturbingly realistic imagery' above all else.

It's like comparing watching a war movie, to watching actual war footage.

OculusRift3503d ago

So, I take it, you were too young for Postal 1(back when those graphics were thought to be good) and you've probably only played the newer one.

morganfell3503d ago

Wow. More art style critics that use such judgements to decide moral allowances. Ridiculous.

Highlife3503d ago

@Morgan
Wow more people hiding behind "art style" as an excuse for pure garbage. I'm for free speech but I also can use my freedom of speech to say this game is pure crap. They can make what ever they want but be prepared for others to speak their mind and who are you to say they are wrong.

mhunterjr3503d ago (Edited 3503d ago )

@oculusrift

You would be wrong in your assumption. Very wrong.

Even when postal graphics were thought to be "good", it still couldn't be taken for anything other than cartoon violence.

There is are huge thematic, tonal, and symbolic differences between Hatred and Postal. Perhaps it's YOU who isn't mature enough to see that...

@morgan
In what way am I judging the 'art style' or morality? His comment was about a relative lack of controversy when comparing this game to Postal. Apparently, society is a little less sensitive to cartoon violence than they are realistic depictions of torture, mutilation, and murder... And even less tolerant of providing consumers with a means to carry out such realistic acts virtually. It's an observation, not a judgement.

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King_of_Nothing3503d ago

Seems like the game was made controversial just for controversy's sake. No thanks.

PowerNerd1013503d ago

Meh, they won't be getting my money. One for angry teenage boys no doubt.

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Controversial "Adults Only" Murder Simulator Hatred Is Coming To Nintendo Switch

A game about killing people.

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NecrumOddBoy1498d ago (Edited 1498d ago )

This game was just gratuitous violence. I don't know why it was rated AO. It's no worse than a GTA killing spree, Hotline Miami, or even the 'No Russian' COD mission. Reminded my of a weaker Dead Nation except no zombies.

FlyingFoxy1498d ago

And we have highly sexualised Japanese games like Senran Kagura which are often either borderline, or practically straight up soft core.. and not even rated AO, some even rated lower age than GTA!

Makes you wonder what's wrong with the ratings systems overall tbh, potentially exposing kids to all kinds of nasty stuff.. but then that's more the parents fault anyways, and the upper age ratings are definitely nowhere near kid friendly, yet you still get little kids playing certain things they shouldn't be.

StormSnooper1497d ago (Edited 1497d ago )

Sex should not even be an issue. Violence, on the other hand, should have restricted access. I don’t know anything about this particular game, but sounds like the difference between this and GTA is that GTA is a game about mafia, so violence itself isn’t the lure of the game. It’s telling a story. But a game about murder, is a game centered on murder as the selling point. I Don’t know, I see a difference here.

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StormSnooper1496d ago (Edited 1496d ago )

@genericgamer01
We are confusing a number of issues here:

1) I think we all agree that any outright censorship is bad.
2) violence does in fact have negative impact on young kids.
3) as a matter of public welfare, some things are not better left to the unchecked discretion of people, in this case parents. This is why we all obey traffic laws.
4) while the right to raise your children how you see fit is a fundamental right, not all parents know how/are able to raise their children in a proper way, and the rights of the child and society should also be considered. Unfortunately, while we get a manual with everything, and attend classes for things like driving, a child does not come with a manual and no classes are offered to parents about how to raise a child.
5) there is a strong interest in protecting those in our society who do not have a means of protecting themselves. This includes children who cannot protect themselves from bad parenting.
6) we do in fact have experts in every field, both inside and outside government, who have dedicated their lives to specific fields, and DO know more in that subject than the general public. (To argue otherwise is called anti-intellectualism, which is a major problem in our society today, i.e. flat earthers)

Therefore, we should have regulations that guide parents, and also prohibit them from allowing their young to engage in activities that are either damaging, or have the propensity to derail their development into functioning positive members of society.

Lastly, the issue of politicians using video games as a means to seem tough, is an altogether separate problem as these individuals should not be allowed to take the reigns from experts on matters of public policy without scientific support.

PurpHerbison1497d ago

I guess the biggest difference here is the goal of Hatred is to murder where as GTA isn't all about killing sprees, Hotline Miami is too cute to be taken seriously, and COD isn't all about wiping out Russians. Best comparison is probably Dead by Daylight where 50% of the game is being a serial killer trying to kill survivors in gruesome ways and it is only rated M.

Kostche1497d ago

shooting and killing people is shooting and killing... dont matter what form it is

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CptDville1497d ago

Have you ever tried Manhunt? It was quite disturbing when launched.

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Tetsujin1498d ago

I'm surprised Switch is getting this and PlayStation/Xbox isn't. The game was basically Postal with better graphics and more realism.

LOGICWINS1497d ago

I'm not. Sonys the one that's been caught censoring anime bikini girls. Nintendo has been vocal about being against censorship.

https://www.google.com/amp/...

https://www.exclusivelygame...

REALAS1497d ago

Haha. Only with the switch, because money. Nintendo has censored more games than anyone.

Segata1497d ago

Nintendo will censor their games but not 3rd parties. That's what tey said since few will click any links.

MadLad1497d ago

@reals

So only with either company's most recent consoles? The ones most relevant here in 2020?

REALAS1496d ago

@ Ted
I just find it funny that people make it seem like Nintendo has always championed non censorship. They have only relaxed their stance to deliver to their shareholders. Good for them, I guess.

MadLad1496d ago

@reals

What I think you're noticing is people going at Sony, because they have been the censorship kings of this generation.

I've never seen people voicing Nintendo's anti-censorship stance, because they've obviously been bad with that in the past. But we're talking about now, and Sony is the one always seen censoring content nowadays.

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Activemessiah1498d ago

Brace yourselves for the incoming bitching about this by journalists.

NecrumOddBoy1497d ago (Edited 1497d ago )

Or more likely: "Best on Switch - 10/10"

QuePasa871497d ago

Hmm I wonder if some retail outlets will refuse to sell it

Kabaneri1497d ago

Every open world sandbox game is Hatred for me.

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5 Titles That Critics Hated but Gamers Loved

A look at five games that gamers loved but most critics hated.

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iofhua2344d ago

Advent Rising is another good example. It got panned by critics but it has a good story and I enjoyed playing it. The graphics are dated, the enemies all look the same, but it was made in 2005 so what do you expect? I wish they made the sequel so I could finish the story but I think the critics killed it off.

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Aaroncls72343d ago

I don't trust critics.
I'd value more the feedback from a random user.

nommers2343d ago

I seldom trust gamers or critics anymore. A lot of times high scores just mean how likely you are to enjoy something from the game, but rarely anything about how much you would enjoy said things, or whether the highly preferred type of qualities in a game you’re looking for are even in it. My initial gut feeling of the premise of a game is usually all I need.

quent2343d ago

Silent Hill: downpour another example

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Shock Value Alone Won't Sell Sh*tty Games

Joanna Mueller writes: "Since the 1980's, video game advocates have been arguing for the protection of games as a medium of free speech. Frankly, I consider myself in that camp, but just because a game can push against the boundaries of common decency doesn't mean it should. Especially if the developer is just hoping to ride the wave of pearl clutching controversy to the bank."

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garyanderson2813d ago

Nothing wrong with pushing for controversy, but the game still has to be worthwhile. Lots of games in the 90s showed that.

ShaunCameron2813d ago

Because the novelty will eventually wear off and the audience will eventually wise up.

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Cy2813d ago

So what? If there's a market for something then why should anyone care if it gets filled, as long as it's not something illegal? You can dislike so-called "edge lord" games all you want (in fact, you can like or dislike whatever you want, full stop) but even if games like Hatred are just trying to take advantage of anti-SJW backlash to make a quick buck, the fact that they exist at all is important in a culture that's becoming increasingly puritan and censorship orientated. Art is supposed to push the envelope. It's supposed to make you think. And even if all a game makes you do is think about why certain people are so desperate to ban it.

Enigma_20992812d ago

Yeah, it makes me think WTF is this s***?

Skankinruby2813d ago

Sure seems to be working for gta

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