Why I’m scared that Final Fantasy XV will suck.

"For the past 8 years Final Fantasy Versus/XV has been my most anticipated game, not for any given year but for all of them. Then came TGS 2014 and with it a glorious beautiful new trailer, and with it my heart soared. But then with a few words from the New Director it sank."-Takuchat.com

[Snookies12]

How about we wait and see what it's like to play for ourselves, before getting all discouraged?

[KingKelloggTheWH]

While I do agree that we need more information, I still think it is best to get them knowing that this is not a good direction as soon as possible.

[bouzebbal]

i'm also afraid it will suck just like 13 did.
I really dont like the fighting system in it and the teleporting thing in it. We all want a big JRPG to give us the magic feel from old days when we started playing whatever FF.

[vishmarx]

this game has nothing similar to 13
and not even 13 had bad combat

[user5575708]

I'm not afraid that it will suck in fact it shouldn't at all. However I'm afraid it will be very mediocre and hold my hand the way XIII did. Mediocre will still sell, a game that sucks may not. I'm also afraid that they will then come out with FFXV-2 and -3.

I hope...it sucks. Only because then maybe just maybe we can get the true next generation final fantasy title on an HD console that has a battle system like FF6-9, 10 or 10-2.

I'm tired of simplified nonsense (autobattle, story level caps, constant tutorials). Make a decent rpg for the HD consoles and/or WiiU. Bravely default shows that they still know how now it just needs to happen.

[Mankey]

I must say I agree with KingKellogg. It's hard to say for sure, but some of the comments that have come from Tabata have been worrying. The two things that stand out in particular were about the car and more specifically about the combat.

I don't you about you all, but I have no interest in playing a game where the only skill that is required is how long you are able to hold down a single button, while the game plays itself.

So here's what I propose;

We go on Twitter, Facebook, Email, whatever and make sure that Square/Tabata/The FFXV team, understand that the we have no problem if this is something that is optional, but we are all not interested in a one button combat system.

[-Foxtrot]

Yeah excactly

People can flaunt the "Wait and see" card all they like but the same happened with Final Fantasy 13

Back then people heard about the changes to the formula and each time the director opened his mouth it got worse and worse. People who were blindly hyped told those people to shut up and that they were being ridiculous. In the end guess who was right.

Look I'm excited for this game but with the new changes and the arrogant director making his mouth go the game seems like it's going to be another FF13 in the of it's hype.

I think Nomura was pushed out. After Square made Versus a main FF title they probably told Nomura to add stuff to make it like FF13 in SOME areas, anyway after seeing the game he's worked on become not what he envisioned he left to work on KH3.

[MrSwankSinatra]

Are people are expecting combat like DMC or Bayonetta? I mean seriously, this is a JRPG, not a Hack n Slash game. I pretty sure he didn't mean it literally that you'll only utilize "ONE" button. I'm expecting combat similar to dark souls where you have your light and heavy attacks. Since the combat isn't as slow as a souls game, you'll probably do dodging rather than blocking. Plus you have your magic attack as well.

[KingKelloggTheWH]

People were expecting combat like it had initially had, much like Kingdom Hearts, not holding down a button.

People wanted to do the fights themselves, not have auto battles.

[bouzebbal]

if no auto fights then bring back Gambits system from FF12 for secondary characters.

[joab777]

It's b/c you care, and the last 3 were average. Thats it.

[Godmars290]

The example(s) of FF13.

And its not so much "be afraid", its just that I'm not buying it. Square seems unable to realize when they've made a mistake, unless like in the case of the first version of FF14 its catastrophic, so why should I indulge them much less give them my money?

[Rainbowcookie]

Exactly ^^ http://n4g.com/news/1592826... seems different to the according to the internet bashfest on the UNRELEASED game that nobody in the west (that I know of played)

P.S if it sucks don't buy it...solves a lot of your problems

[Magicite]

Im scared too, but this time I have high hopes, because Toriyama havent touched this gem yet.

[Godmars290]

Yeah. We've just gone from a female character being apparently integral to a footnote.

[BassMan125]

You don't have to be afraid. Based on all the information recently, it already sucks.

[Roccetarius]

Quite honestly, it sounds like the one in charge has no clue what to do.

[nX]

Noone in the upper management of Square has a clue, these guys are high as fuzz for years now.

[-Foxtrot]

He's only ever worked on handheld games

I mean you have some well respected guy like Nomura being replaced by a nobody.

It's like a nobody replacing Kojima if he made a new MGS game

[Bennibop]

The reality is that FF has been diluted down for years. Not a big fan of the more action focused jrpg and miss turn based games of old such as FF7 and Shining Force 1-3.

[Roccetarius]

But FF7 wasn't turn based, it was ATB.

[Bennibop]

it was but it more similar to a turn based system than it is now.

[Roccetarius]

Obviously the disagrees don't know the difference between the battle systems... ¨

Kalkano, no it isn't. It stands for Active Time Battle. As soon as you put a timer on the combat, it's no longer turn based. You're forcing the player to make a move, based on a timer.

[Kurisu]

The battle system isn't the be all and end all of the game. What about the open world? The dynamic weather? The day and night cycle? Dungeons? Story? Exploration?

[DragonKnight]

Are you kidding? You're effectively arguing for Square-Enix's newest idea of taking the player out of the game. They did it with FFXIII and I thought it was just Toriyama that was the problem, but this is a company wide issue. They want the player to have as little actual involvement as possible and it shows.

If SE want to take players out of the game, then they should just start making Japanese Heavy Rain.

[kingdomtriggers]

"Note that the game apparatus according to the present invention can cast various attacks based on the correspondence between positional conditions and attack methods set by the player even when the same operating button is pressed;however, it is also possible, for example, to switch, BY A PLAYER'S OPERATION, between a game mode to which the present invention is applied and in which various attacks can be cast based on the correspondence between positional conditions and attack methods set by the player, AND A NORMAL GAME MODE IN WHICH VARIOUS ATTACKS CAN BE CAST BY THE PLAYER BY PRESSING A PLURALITY OF BUTTONS."

I read through the patent for FFXV and found this deep into it. It seems like this "baby mode" can be switched off and a conventional normal mode can be used instead. Made a N4G account just to show this comment because I think it really might be our closest thing to a confirmation until...you know...an actual confirmation

[KingKelloggTheWH]

Oh,please. PLEASE be true....

[kingdomtriggers]

Idk whats up with the disagree...
If anything this is the most productive comment on this entire article but whatever...
Again its not a confirmation, but I think it might be damn near the closest thing we get until jump festa

[jambola]

I think the biggest problem with information is that many articles tend to contradict each other, it's quite confusing

[kingdomtriggers]

...but I got this quote directly from square Enix's legal patent on the games combat. So it's not some dumb journalist trying to clickbait. All I can say for sure is that in this patent for the games combat there IS a normal mode. Idk why square would include this quote in a legal document if it was fake lol. But then again square is crazy....

[jambola]

@kingdomtriggers
oh, i wasn't talking about you're comment, i just meant in general how it can be hard to know which information and rumours are true at this point for some

[Potnoodle999]

Thanks mate! We need more productive people like you on this site, hopefully square will confirm this soon though... :)

[johny5]

Is it true it's just Auto battles??? Some say all you do is press the X button. I thought it was suppose to be like Kingdom Hearts?

[Kurisu]

I've been looking forward to this game as much as the next person, and I still am. The trailer looks beautiful, and the music *_* Really looking forward to playing the demo in 6 months to get a better feel for the game.

[qwerty676]

final fantasy has lost its magic with these last couple games

so i think its warranted to be a little skeptical.

[Jubez187]

FFXIV is awesome and 100% deserves the "XIV" title.

[poppinslops]

WOO-HOO!

Dumb it down and serve it up!
This is gonna be GREAT.
Everybody's dressed in black and their hair is f¥€king FABULOUS.

And no Chocobos!

WOOOOOO!!!

[jambola]

who ever said no chocobos?

[Kurisu]

Tabata actually said he's working on getting Chocobos in to the demo if time allows, so I don't know where you got that from.

[poppinslops]

Really?

Well damn...
DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!!

NO SALE.

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

Chocobos have been confirmed and so have airships and towns.

[Loktai]

Thankfully nobody is holding a gun to anyones head to buy it.. .wait and see how it is when it comes out and try or read about it. These articles are a waste of space. Final fantasy has gone through several big changes and at this point anybody holding their breath still thinking FF is the pinnacle of RPGs is about 10 years out of date.

[kevinsheeks]

The wait in see attitude is what led to some very terrible products being released

[Loktai]

Not really man. You mean "Wait and see"? I am saying that this is not going to help the game its mostly done . Let the game come out and see how it is, If it doesnt sell because its bad they'll hear the vote of the market.

Or people can just circlejerk about how bad it is months and months before it comes out because they didnt like a trailer. There is also the possibility that its being judged by a demographic its not even MEANT for which makes it even more pointless.

[kevinsheeks]

Thanks for the correction posting from mobile is a pain. Now you are aware this game has been in development for 8 years you'd rather us sit around and see something we don't agree with and let it release?

Do you think they haven't changed directions in these last 8 years? if consumers do not like the direction best believe they will go back in make changes.

Also do you think people would respond to a product that's not for them? That seems kind of silly to make that statement it's assuming that people are posting without having a basic understanding of the product they are talking about.

But seeing as voicing your opinion is considered "circle jerking" I can see your well beyond reasoning.

[AgentSmithPS4]

Why, because of the hair?

[KingKelloggTheWH]

You could read the article, it's not the hair...

[AgentSmithPS4]

lol jk. it's just amusing to me that people would disagree etc because of a silly hair comment. I didn't bother reading the article because I'm not going to get hyped about a game I don't know much about before it proves itself. There's enough drama in the world so why worry that someone is scared that it will suck?

I personally hope there's a power in the game that lets me change the hair that I don't like.

[Agent_hitman]

I trust SE about this matter. And I'm sure that they are good their best to bring the best Final Fantasy 15 to the gamers.

[DualWielding]

I haven't heard of this and now I'm scared, I thought the battle system would be like Kingdom Hearts but apparently there is not even a battle system per se, there is only press a button

[DeusEx-Machina]

Don't be scared. Embrace the game for what it is when it ships and not for what it might or might not be. Just relax and keep your hype at a reasonable level.

[Taislin]

There´s no need to be scared. Wait for the demo, play it, form your educated and unbiased opinion on the game, buy it/skip it, resume living a happy life as a gamer with a plethora of games to choose from.

[TheCagyDies]

Well, I'm glad that they have a demo. If there is something the masses don't like, address their concerns to SE and maybe they'll change it.

[Inception]

Based on all info this past days, i already dumbed down my hype. So i'm not scared if it sucks.

Beside, there are other RPG such as Persona 5, Tales of Zestiria, or Bloodborne that i think have better potential to be awesome compare to FF XV.

[Zizi]

Oh come on, just wait for the demo.

[souga_houjou_jin]

its nomura behind the game so its day one for me
my ps4 is ready

[BassMan125]

Umm, Nomura left this project and replaced by Hajime Tabata, director of Crisis Core and FF Agito.

[souga_houjou_jin]

oh crap...i guess he went back to KH3 then
hmmm now i need to reconsider this

[Inception]

- Nomura left the project
- it still 55% complete after 8+ years
- Tabata (the new director) wants the gameplay to be more casual

[sssb]

Actually it's too early to judged, let us wait for demo and see.

[Ocsta]

If this "one button" thing is true, we may have a problem.

[Mikefizzled]

If you can maintain hype and anticipation towards a game the best thing for you to do is write it off completely. There is no game thats worthy of 8 years of hype, face it. Still get it regardless with your expectations completely shredded and you may, after all of this, walk away with a positive experience.

[pyrocloud7]

The reality of it all is that this game will single handedly ruin or revitalize Square-Enix. I'm hoping for revitalize, but I am wary.

[gamer7804]

Good article.im worried myself, and lets not forget there are no payable girl characters :(.

[Miraak82]

the demo will prolly be more like how ff8's demo was , the demo will WoW!! you and the actually game will Blow You Away !!. I don't really see the complaint about the battle system if it's like KH's but still retains planned and timed attacks (maybe) for the RPG element.

All FF demo's I've played aren't even 1/10th of what the game actually is ( Maybe except the 13 series , I totally skipped those lol )

[TheOneWhoIsTornApart]

The people that are prejudging the game and whining are absolutely ridiculous. You are all being completely irrational and condemning the game before we actually know what is really going on. When the demo comes out in March and it turns out not to be what you wanted THEN go back to whining but until then give it a rest because you are all acting like brats.

[D-riders]

I thought he was joking when he said that. guess illbe waiting on reviews. even though this was my most highly anticipated game as well

[jhoward585]

The data size of the game disc for FF15 can give us some clues.
Hopefully the size of FF15 isn't the same data size as destiny. if it is expect button mashing action for FF15.

[kenpachii]

The game is already made for CASUAL people, Hajime Tabata said that, so that people who play tennis or kinect can enjoy this title, mean more incoming money in my view...

So lets accept that, is hard to make a new JRPG AAA hit, so they throw us a casual donut, one button gameplay and stuff.

[DJrantz]

Tetsuya Nomura is the only guy at square enix that makes sure his games don't suck. It will be good.

[KingKelloggTheWH]

But Tabata is the new director, and Nomura is working on Kh3 now..

[digitalwolf]

http://www.takuchat.com/im-...

Site also posted a counter article :P