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Editorial: Who cares if Notch sold Mojang to Microsoft. Why does it bother you so much?

Notch, the creator of Indie megahit Minecraft, has sold his company to Microsoft to the tune of 2.5 billion dollars. But does it matter to you and why is everyone so upset about it?

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pwnsause_returns3529d ago

its not really how much he made, thats irrelevant, it happens every day. Look at Dre when he sold Beats to Apple.

I think the problem here is how MS will use the Minecraft IP and the Studio with its Developers. its kinda bothersome for the fact that they could of dropped that money on creating more studios or use that funding to create new IPs with their already established internal studios.

mhunterjr3529d ago (Edited 3529d ago )

The assumption that if MS if weren't buying Mojang, they would have spent the 2.5 billion on something game related...

For all we know, they wouldn't have spent it at all, or would have spent it on something totally unrelated to gaming...

Truth is, we have no idea what MS' plans are orhow much they have or will invest in studios and/or 1st party games. so to be sour about this makes little sense. It's their $ to spend as they see fit.

I look at the backlash after the Oculus Rift aquisition. All the talk about how Facebook was going to ruin it... When it turns out all Facebook did was give an ambitious project the resources it needed to reach the next level. This deal may or may not end up with a similar result, but there is no reason to assume the worst.

DiscoKid3529d ago

They did spent the 2.5 billion on something game-related. They bought Minecraft.

SilentNegotiator3528d ago (Edited 3528d ago )

You don't have to assume anything...the point is that they had the capacity to spend more money on Xbox in wake of all of the criticism that they don't have enough new IPs. It's unlikely that they will spend ANOTHER 2.5 billion on game related stuff - in a very soon time frame - now.

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guitarded773528d ago

I think it's fair to assume that there is potential for this to be negative. Take MS's acquisition of RARE for example. If we look at past experience, people are right to be concerned.

mhunterjr3528d ago

@guitarted77

It's not fair to assume anything. They also bought Bungie... That turned out well for everyone.

If you want to look at past experiences, don't just look at the ones that suit your argument.

guitarded773528d ago

@ mhunterjr

How the hell did MS's time with Bungie "turn out well for everyone". Bungie went from a 3rd party, able to make games for all platforms, to just making for MS. It separated them from the mass audience they once again have. As much as I hate Activision, at least Bungie is free to stretch its legs again.

mhunterjr3528d ago

@guitarted

Are you inherently against the purchase of 3rd parties? Because of so, you'd find any aquisition bad. Or are you just against Microsoft aquisitions? Do you feel the same way about the countless 3rd parties Sony has purchased? You do understand that any aquisition is going to come with an expectation of exclusivity, right?

As for MS buying Bungie, do you think activision would have spend $500mil on this new franchise if Bungie didn't reach legendary status with Halo. Unlike with Rare, the Bungie aquisition improved the value of all brands it was associated with.

MrPink20133527d ago (Edited 3527d ago )

guitarted77, so then you agree it was good for Insomniac to leave Sony and Sucker Punch should follow suit? Critics of Microsoft have said they need to build within and now that they buy Mojang it's bad???

How come some peeps here act like they know how to run a company? Let me get this straight, they spend 2.5 billion on this and now people think that money would have went elsewhere to building up the Xbox One? Buying minecraft has far more repercussions than one system. Microsoft has the funds to support the Xbox One as well but as usual the same pessimistic people like to view things within a box. Besides its not like they will not get any of that investment back. In fact some analysts suggest they will recoup that investment rather quickly. But hey, let's listen to some anonymous comments.

miyamoto3527d ago (Edited 3527d ago )

Microsoft's life after the Xbox Done will be Microcraft. And M$ will milk it dry like they did to Nokia.

But M$ has a point: Why spend billions on a dud like the Xbox Done where we can spend it on a surefire hit like Minecraft?

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gameon19853529d ago

Look you uninformed gamer, Microsoft studios did not buy them, but a over seas division of Microsoft did. How ever their gaming division will reap the rewards of this purchase. As for new ip and studios, Microsoft has more new ips out and in development then Sony, and also have more studios.

pwnsause_returns3529d ago

>Look you uninformed gamer, Microsoft studios did not buy them, but a over seas division of Microsoft did.

> but a over seas division of Microsoft did.

>division of Microsoft

> Microsoft

MFW

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SilentNegotiator3528d ago (Edited 3528d ago )

And I didn't cheat on my wife; my penis did.

qwerty6763528d ago

" its kinda bothersome for the fact that they could of dropped that money on creating more studios"

you're thinking small, this is greater then xbox.

SilentNegotiator3528d ago

It does nothing to improve anything on ANY platform, though. Microsoft could have done something to improve the Xbone instead and given people a reason to buy one. Microsoft should be worried about the considerable possibility of finishing last again.

mhunterjr3528d ago

@silentmegotiator

And they STILL have the capacity to spend more on xbox if they see fit. You act as if they took money from XBOX. But you have no idea what this money was slotted for, what their motives behind this aquisition is or what their future investments will be.

Hunch tells me this move was less about xbox and more about MS mobile and services.

Spotie3528d ago (Edited 3528d ago )

Microsoft has the capacity to spend their entire funding on Xbox, but you'd be stupid to think they will.

Like every other company in the world, Microsoft's divisions have budgets. There is a finite amount of money they're willing to spend on ANY of their brands, Xbox included. So this money they spent acquiring Mojang cuts into that, meaning less money for Microsoft original gaming content.

Then again, since it seems like most XBox fans- like you- don't really miss the extra games or variety. Why else would Death and others be championing the parity clause that results in fewer games on the system?

Edit: Why would you be operating under the assumption that this wasn't in their budget? What's with Xbox fans and this belief that Microsoft will just throw untold amounts of money into Xbox without regard for their ROI?

How long do you think Microsoft will put up with that? How long do you think investors will put up with watching money sunk into a division that isn't making nearly enough?

Or are you running with the assumption that they don't care how much money they lose?

mhunterjr3528d ago

@spotie

Again, you a running with the assumption that this money came from xbox's budget...

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-Foxtrot3529d ago

I don't really see a BIG problem with it, I'm more annoyed with the fact they spent so much money on it then I am with it being owned by Microsoft now.

I mean if they do Minecraft 2 and have a shit load of features in it, things which they never put into the first game then I'll be fine. By that I mean stuff which you see in loads of mods but Mojang never added into the official game. Wallpaper, more furniture, bizarre biomes (see The Twilight Forest mod), mechanical stuff like trains/trams, air balloons, introduction of oil, electric (stuff better then redstone), generators, power tools etc. It just felt that despite the updates, even the big ones Minecraft never went as full. Look at the 1.8 one which has taken months to come out, they've just added different doors now, something like that should of been in ages ago

What bugs me though is the fact Notch moaned on about Oculus being sellouts when they were bought by Facebook, then he does the exact same. Bit of a hypocrite don't you think

kdmitchell_toh3529d ago

Yeah, that's the only thing that rubs me the wrong way. But at the same time I can understand where Notch is coming from but he / they shouldn't have said what they said for them to do a 180 and do exactly what they said they wouldn't do.

Still like I said, I don't know anyone that would deny 2.5 billion dollars. Would you? Would anyone here?

DLConspiracy3528d ago

I could be wrong here but I don't recall Notch saying the sellout portion. I think he just felt they had no prior knowledge or passion for the gaming community and might not have the gamers in full mind. What I recall him specifically saying is. Was excited about porting Minecraft onto Oculus but not now Facebook just creeps me out"

Like I said I could be wrong but I wasn't exactly following up on that bit of news.

jrshankill3528d ago

From what I understand, he has said he never wanted to be involved with AAA titles. He wants to continue making games as an independent developer.

Still, he is filthy rich now.

Nobody would turn down that kind of money. It is debatable if Minecraft and Mojang is really worth that kind of investment (I always think that MS could have grabbed Capcom for the same investment) but nobody knows for sure what will happen to the Minecraft IP. It's Microsoft's money, they can do as they please with it. It's exciting though to think how this could lead to future Minecraft releases.

Congratulations has to go to Microsoft for this one, and Mojang for the money they are now swimming in.

urwifeminder3528d ago

Gamers these days seem to need hormone replacement therapy always crying over some nonsense, nice work MS .

user3672723528d ago (Edited 3528d ago )

I love the deal. MS is always being accused of buying timed third party exclusives like Tomb Raider, and yes...even the current Minecraft for the longest and "I'll wait for this _____ (game) to be on my console in 6 months" quote was used constantly by haters. Now, they bought a Huge IP and probably will make the sequel xb1 exclusive on console, the new crying and moaning from haters is that they are wasting money. Go figure. 😕

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feraldrgn3528d ago

Because people care about the game, that should be obvious.

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With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7719h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE16h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware73016h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor13h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos13h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor13h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos13h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 15h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 15h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 19h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 23h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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