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Peter Molyneux on Godus backlash: 'I take the bullying for the sake of making a great game'

Peter Molyneux talks Godus, how mobile impacted the PC version, Godus vs. Dungeon Keeper, and how you can make money from 22cans.

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-Foxtrot3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Oh Peter....you can't make great games

You can build up great hype for a good game and maybe tell some great lies along the way but nothing more

Golden_Mud3542d ago

I do agree , this guy can't execute his ideas though his ideas are genius.

Boody-Bandit3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Reaching for the for the unobtainable knowing it can't be done isn't genius. It's merely false hype to achieve attention to the individual or the developer he works with. Like his whole Milo nonsense. AKA the Wizard of Oz, pay no attention to the man behind the mirror.

The only thing Peter is great at is talking. Personally I wish he would STFU. I mean there is those that are in the camp of what have you done for me lately but he is in the camp as what have you done for the industry almost ever.

He made some decent games over the years. One could argue he made a great game here or there but it's not like this guys is spinning out masterpieces or ever has. Those guys and devs in the gaming industry talk 1/20th what this @zz hat does.

Peter once for all let the work talk for itself. Most of us know it usually doesn't and when it does it scream mediocrity.

Baka-akaB3542d ago

He has released masterpieces on PC . He created a whole genre of games , so of course he can aspire to be called a genius or legend in the industry .

But that was then , now he's washed up and constantly lying or aiming for stuff out of his reach

Thantalas3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Peter Molyneux 'I take the bullying for the sake of making a great game'

Is he mad? He launched a Kickstarter for Godus and said nothing about it being a pay-to-win gem game, in effect deceiving his backers by not revealing the true nature of the game. The PC beta had gems that cost $50!!! Then quite rightly media and websites pulled him up about it. This was not bullying, this was making him accountable to the people who invested in his business. He hypocritically then criticised the EA Dungeon Keeper for mobile devices for its pay to win model!

Thankfully the backlash has led to him changing the model for the PC/Mac game. Molyneux is a talented man and should try harder to understand the cause of the public upset comes from him not being completed open about Godus.

hay3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Let me get this right: if I disregard gravity as he disregarded honesty, and as a result of it I'll painfully faceplant on the ground does this mean the Earth is bullying me? Because I always thought I'd be an idiot for ignoring obvious mechanisms.

Good one Pete.

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DarkOcelet3542d ago

Fable 1 and 2 were amazing for their time , if only they were harder .

XtraTrstrL3542d ago

If only Fable 1 and 2 were anything near what he claimed they'd be. The things he basically lied about were ridiculous. There's no way to defend him, I was so disappointed with Fable 1 after all the hype about how you'd be able to do anything. He went on and on about how real the world would be and how you'd grow from a child to old age and have all these choices. It was all fluff, it was just a regular game in the end. He does this all the time, I don't even pay attention to his work anymore.

incendy353542d ago

I think he missed a golden opportunity as being the world's greatest used cars salesman.

DonDon3542d ago

Yuck. Molyneux, Phil Fish, and Cliffy B all re-emerged from the abyss in the same week. Does anybody care about what they have to say? They talk alot more than they spend time in studios creating decent games.

Baka-akaB3542d ago

Well he could make excellent games till (and including) the Black and White series

Hellsvacancy3542d ago

Populous: The Beginning and Black And White are some of my all time favourite games so I know he can make good games

XtraTrstrL3542d ago

I remember Populous, I use to play it alot on Genesis. I also had the original Black and White game, that was pretty cool. Too bad he's all about over-hyping and under-delivering now. His word can't be taken seriously, it's a show & prove mentality I have with him now. I'll wait for reviews on his games before even thinking of letting him get me psyched up over a new game.

DOMination-3541d ago

Don't forget Syndicate and Theme Park

SilentNegotiator3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

OMG stop teh bullying, Foxtrot!! /s

Ahh, "bullying"...another word that the PC police, and others looking for a quick, cheap way to discredit anyone they disagree with, has raped to meaninglessness.

edit: Okay, it's a little ironic that I chose the word "raped" when describing words abused. In the future I will find an alternative; I consider myself a bit of a wordsmith and I can do better than that.

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equal_youth3542d ago

i am so glad i didn't buy godus. steam reviews saved me from doing it.

Boody-Bandit3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

Peter talks great but usually ends up creating mediocre games. If he gets any backlash it's because it never STFU. Devs with 10x his talent talks 1/20th the amount that he does. All he is in this industry is a mouth piece / hype machine. Milo, you're not fooling anyone. I see the man behind the mirror.

He reminds me of Adam Sessler. He brings it on himself and than plays the victim role once the backlash is unleashed on them.

DonDon3542d ago

What does he have in common with Sessler?

Boody-Bandit3542d ago (Edited 3542d ago )

That they are attention whores and flip flop like flounders when they get caught not meeting expectations or flat out lying. Like Peter with Milo or Adam with being caught being a hypocrite time and time again. Plus he has been caught flat out lying. Than they both play the victim role when the heat is brought their way.

I will at least give Peter credit for staying and not running like a lil girl and pretending the unwarranted backlash and threats is why he left like Adam did.

Bottom line. Let the work talk for itself when you're a developer and be honest and impartial when you're reporting on the industry. That's what they have in common. Both do / did the opposite.

MilkMan3542d ago

So where the fuq is this great game hes talking about? Cause Godus is a piece of sh!t.
Its time to retire bro.
and please, wire your mouth shut.

STK0263542d ago

I've put around 35 hours in Godus, and quite honestly, while there is something very enjoyable about the game, Godus is a great example of great game design with poor execution, it truly is an exercise in frustration.

Two things are really keeping Godus from being a good game. First, the developers have shown over time that they wanted the game to be the same on PC and mobile, which means that mobile restrictions (in terms of horsepower) hamper the PC experience. This can easily be seen with the pathfinding (which manages to be worse than Command and Conquer's pathfinding, a game released close to two decades ago). And to make matters worse, they have stated that they were happy with the current pathfinding and that they would rather focus on other aspects of the game.

And number two, I understand that the mobile version will be free with in app purchases to speed up the timers. On PC, we paid for the game and were told there would not be in app purchases. All is fine so far; until you reach timers that are North of 24 hours. You have nothing to do for days, and there's nothing to do about it. It's even worse than having in app purchases; as I actually had to pay for the damn game, yet I'm still stuck waiting for days.

Ripco_Keller3542d ago

While I haven't played the game, I'll agree with your first point on general principle. Sadly, PC games have always been held back by consoles, but having to play the parity game with mobile devices? Quite bad.

As for your second point, he says right in the interview that you'll be able to freely change or remove those timers on PC.

equal_youth3542d ago

and this is why the gaming executives are all shoving their financial graves. on the long run this concepts won't survive and will only damage the liability of said person. molyneux lost his spirit over a decade ago and clearly he can't just do a game without destroying it while he is developing it. i hate on those people that give away great opportunities to make games. they have everything but just can't do it right. damn i wish i had my own little studio ^^ i would make the game of the decade and it would be what gamers wanted. great promises and little gameplay oO pilled with a lot of false marketing and talk.

Sly-Lupin3541d ago

Yeah, on the surface Godus seems like it should be such a fantastic game... but the execution of the various systems is just terrible.

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Legendary Game Maker Peter Molyneux Talks Regrets and What's Next

In his first major interview in over a year, Molyneux opens up about his legacy, his empathy for the 'No Man's Sky' team, and redefining himself.

solideagle2583d ago

great interview...i hope he comes back to console industry

Mystogan2583d ago

Bring him back for Fable 4

Kaneki-Ken2583d ago

Bring him to PlayStation and do a spiritual Successor to Fable. PlayStation will fund the game and give full creative control over the game.

XXanderXX2582d ago

only with the exception where he doesn't over sale and not deliver like he did with Fable 1-3

zuul90182583d ago

Yea he had part in some neat games, (fable, black and white) but i think all im gonna remember him for was his pre-fable 2 interview.

"You dont control the dog, the dog acts on its own." Feel like that was the most proud hes ever been about a feature in his game. "You dont control the dog" kinda funny

UltraNova2583d ago (Edited 2583d ago )

Yeah the time where people got excited about Peter's promises is long long gone. He has to deliver...

badz1492583d ago

Knowing Molyneux, this talk about regrets might be another one of his promises he's not gonna fulfill.

XanderZane2582d ago (Edited 2582d ago )

I want a new Populus game for the new generation. Played that game to death on the Genesis. It's too bad that Peter's ambitions always seemed to exceed his final product. He always had big dreams though.

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TheColbertinator2583d ago

I miss this crazy fool. Microsoft could use a game developer like Molyneux again.

omegaheat2583d ago

Dude, you really should get a life. No matter what developer comes on board, you'll find some way to make it out as a bad thing. Save some of that surplus of criticism for things that really matter, you know things like Donald Trump.

S2Killinit2583d ago (Edited 2583d ago )

Whaaa. Im just saying they dont show a lot of movement in terms of first party. If we all sit back and dont say nothing, it will continue to be that way.

Trekster_Gamer2583d ago

Yes like Sony could use free backwards compatibility the cheap bastards

ThePresentIsAgift2583d ago

That was hilarious BTW and I owned all Xbox Consoles/

Godmars2902583d ago

No, just need to loosen the reigns - a lot. Realize that not everything needs to be online so as to need a paying sub just to access.

rainslacker2583d ago

@omega

Actually, thinking on it, maybe you could name one high profile game designer that works for Microsoft?

Without a google search.

There's a reason that high profile game designers become high profile....it's usually because they make some rather iconic, impressive, or innovative games.

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Godmars2902583d ago

MS is literally in the shape they're in because of this guy. Especially regarding Kinect.

psuedo2583d ago

Dod that hurt pulling that out of your know where?

Godmars2902583d ago

So he wasn't in charge of Kinect game development at one point? Never delivered with Milo?

InTheLab2582d ago

That was Kudo and Don Mattrik. They pushed the motion gimmicks and Molyneux simply believed in the project enough to stage a phony demo as proof of concept.

The only other notable instance of him ruining Xbox was that completely on the rails Fable that he argued and had 50 idiots from gaming media to sign their names stating the game wasn't on the rails.

While I do believe Kate and Milo sold a dream to millions (many of whom still argue the potential for Kinect), at that point in Xbox history the Kinect was entirely optional.

He has zero to do with Forced Kinect, DRM, no used games, and all of that deal from the Xbox launch and he certainly doesn't have anything to do with Phil's mission to gut the Xbox one of all exclusives

Godmars2902582d ago

@InTheLab:

How as the face of Kinect is the man as if not more culpable? By all counts he had skill and resources in excess to deliver Milo, but instead held up an empty example expecting 3rd parties to do as well if not better? And since, apparent grand tradition of overselling and at some point walking back, shareholders bought something yet to be proven never to actually work as Mattrick only saw the money to be made through watching XB1 owners, how was Molyneux and Milo not responsible for Kinect being mandatory on the next system?

The XB1 was built around Kinect, Kinect never worked as advertised, effectively crippled the XB1, and that's on Molyneux and a proof of concept.

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phoenixwing2583d ago

He sure talked big about his games. As for them hitting the mark, at least he has an ambitious imagination. He walked the line of what is barely acceptable to promise to gamers without getting huge backlash. Unlike a certain game publisher with their procedurally generated universe.

cfc832583d ago

Very good interview. Good luck to him.

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Godus Wars, Kickstarter Backer Reactions and How to Not Open a Can of Worms

Georgi Trenev writes: "What we are currently seeing could very well be described as a final push aimed at fixing the damage that has already been done, and only time will tell whether Godus Wars ends up being successful. But one thing’s for sure – you know things are bad when people are still giving you a tough time even after releasing a product for free."

garyanderson2999d ago

I can't think of many other kickstarter that are a bigger disaster than this one.,oooh.

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Is Peter Molyneux's Reputation Irreparably Tarnished?

Godus has re-emerged as Godus War on Steam's Early Access, but this article questions whether it's too late for Molyneux to stage a comeback at this point.

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FallenAngel19843007d ago

It already is too late. He constantly lies and fails to implement all the features he boasts about on his games.

Herbalistic3007d ago (Edited 3007d ago )

The guy seems to have an issue with failing to deliver on his promise when it comes to software

DigitalRaptor3007d ago (Edited 3007d ago )

A visionary. A man of passion. I respect that.

But also the one individual who made too many promises that him and his team could not deliver. I feel bad for him, but he kinda brought it on himself over the years, and did not learn from his mistakes.

Bimkoblerutso3007d ago

I really don't think he even deserves the respect of being called a visionary.

As it turns out, "delusional" is a much better word to describe the man.

DigitalRaptor3006d ago (Edited 3006d ago )

Completely disagree.

Nowadays, he is not a visionary, but he pioneered some really cool concepts back in the day and had charm to his words that followed through and delivered on them in pretty great ways. He simply got carried away as time went on with his excitement for concepts he thought would lead the way, and would be conceivable on the budget and time constraints his team were given.

Bimkoblerutso3006d ago

Populous was the only game that could really be considered "visionary," and even then, despite what many people claim, at it's core it was still just an evolution of similar games that came before it.

In fact the more "visionary" the man got in his career, the more ridiculous and completely unrealistic his promises became...hence...delusional.

Either way, though, I don't mean to belittle the quality of his earlier work. I just meant to suggest that even fools get lucky every now and then.

He's sort of like the George Lucas of the video game industry, if you ask me.

gangsta_red3007d ago

This guy over promises and under delivers. I don't care how good his past games were. He hasn't done anything as of late to make me excited even if he did announce a new project.

wh0am13007d ago

He constatnly over sells EVERYTHING and ehen the games don't turn out the way he promised, it's everyone else's fault.

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