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Six months after its debut, Sony’s entry is besting rivals Xbox One and Nintento Wii U.

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DigitalRaptor3661d ago

We'll see after E3, but for now.. pretty much.

lifeisgamesok3661d ago

Sony is winning the hype/PR side of things but.....

Xbox One is winning the exclusives battle

GarrusVakarian3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

Are you really trying to downplay the PS4's success by saying it's only doing so well because of hype/PR? Really? Talk about sore losers. Does it ever occur to you that the PS4 is doing better because people simply prefer what's on offer on the PS4? Does that thought even enter your mind?

Hype makes people buy something at launch. The PS4 is still going strong 6 months after launch....kinda too to be pulling the hype card, dontcha think?

Sorry man, but approximately 8 million people disagree with you. And besides, if your logic about hype selling consoles is true....then why didn't the X1 win the March NPD, seeing as Titanfall was bundled for free and was hyped to the high heavens?

Food for thought.

Emanno3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

PS4 is winning. I even prefer the Wii U over X1.

DigitalRaptor3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

Nope, Sony is winning the gamers, and establishing them as a better global gaming brand. Business as usual.

Like I've said a thousand times before, even if you believe XB1 is winning the exclusives, Microsoft didn't support the 360 very well at all in the latter years, outside of games for the casual audience of an established gimmick, so they've had time to build up and catch up on a first-party presence.

PS3's last year alone was tremendous in terms of exclusive content, and put the 360 to absolute shame. If you want an answer as to why Xbone "might" be winning an exclusives battle, that would be a good one. However, even with them releasing a ton of games for PS3, Vita and PS4 combined, the fact that PS4 has more first-party stuff going for it than the Xbone, says a lot about the difference between the two platform holders.

Having said that, Microsoft have only released one more AAA game than Sony has this gen, and Sony has released 4x as many AAA first-party games than Microsoft has.

You can't use the "games" in general argument, so you'll try and claim the exclusives. But it's gonna be a close one even after E3. PS4 still has more games and more diversity and quite frankly, always will. So nice try downplaying PS4's success in games and in sales, and mind share of course.

Additionally, it's well past launch, and the kind of hype you are referring to is really only a factor at launch, like Lukas said. Even a massive, massive Titanfall push couldn't shift the XB1 past PS4 in a single month. Talking about sales for a moment: if XB1 doesn't catch up to the PS4 by the end of this year, it's going to be an even harder uphill climb for them. Especially when you consider a PS3 with its terrible PR, surrounding negativity and supposedly having "no games" caught up an 8 million unit lead on the 360 last gen.

I don't know why people believe the gap could possibly be shrinking.

Eonjay3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

PS4 is winning period. It's winning the sales war by about 1 million over the Wii U and over 3 million when compared to the Xbox One. Lets not ignore reality.

Wii U has most exclusives.
PS4 has the most sales
Xbox One has you.

Ratty3661d ago

The exclusives battle? Please.

-Foxtrot3661d ago

"Xbox One is winning the exclusives battle"

Want to know why Sony isn't rushing out exclusives because they don't see the point. They'll take their time and support the PS4 like they did with the PS3.

Microsoft are scrambling around with games and exclusives because of the shit storm which happened last year. They wouldn't of bothered if the Xbox One was a huge success and was crushing the PS4 in sales.

KakashiHotake3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

Umm what exclusives? Other than Titan Fall and maybe Dead Rising for some, they don't have too many games worth mentioning.

reaperofsouls3661d ago

@ lifeisgameok

M$ are the masters of hype look at titanfall the codkiller, the game to end all games , the game that'll change the way we play games, the system seller, the game that everyone will buy an xbone for..... er no .... fail...

Malphite3661d ago

According to Wikipedia:

This includes all games released and announced.

PS4:
Exclusive = 28
Sony Exclusive = 19
Console exclusive and/or timed = 70/1
Multiplatform = 129
Playable = 76 available to purchase (10 of these are exclusive to PS4)

Xbox One:
Exclusive = 17
Microsoft exclusive = 9
Console exclusive or timed = 11/3
Multiplatform = 128
Playable = 42 available to purchase (9 of these are exclusive to Xbox One)

spacedelete3661d ago

what Xbox exclusives ? Xbox has never had good exclusives. Titanfall isn't exclusive its on PC and 360 and by E3 it will be coming to PS3 and PS4 anyway. Ryse is the best looking next gen game easily but the game is average.

are you Xbone owners so blinded by desperation that your lying to yourselves to justify that overpriced paperweight you bought ? Xbone was more expensive, massive console and still isn't as powerful as PS4. you Xbone owners are pathetic.

KinjoTakemura3661d ago

Actually, Xbox One only has 10 console exclusives and the PS4 has 9.

Average Meta critic score for PS4 exclusives 75.7

Average Meta critic score for Xbox one exclusives

64.7

Churning out mediocre games doesn't give you an advantage, in fact, i'd say Microsoft is giving customers more reasons to avoid buying an Xbox One.

More doesn't always mean better.

goldwyncq3661d ago

Don't you think it's a bit too premature for that conclusion to be made?

No_Limit3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

I don't quite agree with lifeisgamesok but I find it kind of funny that he is just stating his own opinion to a platform that he likes and he has like one bubble while a known PS supporter like Newmonday will say the same thing about his system of choice and will have like 10 bubbles. Both are just opinion based and there are no right or wrong answer. The bubble system is flawed beyond beliefs.

Regardless, I don't care who is winning as competition is good for us all and I am glad I have all three consoles to play great games. A far as I'm concern, all three have amazing games coming and I don't want to miss anyone of them.

Sales and who receive the first place ribbon is only for the armchair fanboys.Peach Out.

MysticStrummer3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

@No_Limit - "I find it kind of funny that he is just stating his own opinion to a platform that he likes and he has like one bubble while a known PS supporter like Newmonday will say the same thing about his system of choice and will have like 10 bubbles."

If their bubble totals were entirely based on that one differing opinion you might have a point, but that's not how it works. Read their comments over a week or a month, then come back and honestly tell us you don't see a clear difference in both what they say and how they say it. There are XBox fans here who have a lot of bubbles and there are PS fans here with one.

Magicite3661d ago

blindest fanboi of the year confirmed.

URNightmare3661d ago

Too bad there's a huge unhappy fanbase since there is no Dragon Ball game on Xbox One, no MotoGP on Xbox One, no Baseball on Xbox One. Ouch!

Silly gameAr3661d ago

That's pretty funny lifeisgames. All I see is hype/PR for MS going into E3, and that's enough for xbox owners to claim some kind of victory for the X1 and MS, and an early grave for the PS4 and you guys haven't even seen what they have to offer yet.

JMyers3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

How are they winning the exclusives battle?

Sony has more games announced and more studios making games.

Oh wait you means the one MS pays for?

meganick3661d ago

I would argue that Wii U has the best exclusives at the moment.

Provolone243661d ago

People still think Xbox has more quality exclusives to pick from?

Seriously?

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

jessupj3661d ago

When is this dead horse going to get some rest?

Why do you keep perpetuating this stupid idea that the xbone has vastly more games and that it's winning in the game department when the PS4 has...

More games

More diversity in it's lineup

Higher rated games on average.

All those 3 things are facts. They are not debatable. So why do you keep spouting this nonsense that the xbone is winning is games when the complete opposite is true?

Just stop.

rainslacker3660d ago (Edited 3660d ago )

Interesting that you don't talk about why Sony is hyped right now, and why it's PR is so much better than MicroSoft's. Guess it's just a random event in your mind.

Last I checked, Sony has more exclusives released or announced for their system as MS does, so not sure who's winning that battle as it seems subjective.

Hate to say it, but hype doesn't typically increase over time for the console itself, so that means, by your logic, XBox is in for a rough time going forward. Luckily hype for games becomes more of a thing going forward, and MS and Sony have some heavy hitters in that department.

SoulSercher6203660d ago

LMAO What exclusives?

Forza 5? Gran Turismo 6 blows that game out of the water.

Ryse? The game played like Batman Arkham games only more boring with a dumb story to boot.

Dead Rising 3? It's considered the worst one and there are other zombie games that do it better.

Killer Instinct is the ONLY one worth playing.

And no Titanfall is NOT exclusive.

masterfox3660d ago

lol exclusives, xbots are now hallucinating XD

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BullyMangler3661d ago

sales ???? lol lol

wiiU HAS most bad ass newer higher quality EXCLUSIVES over ps4 xB1 < fact :)

like i would recommend a client to get a ps4 over a wiiU ha haa haaaa ide get fired

-Foxtrot3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

It's been on the market longer you know

Anyway it only got it's big exclusive, Super Mario 3D World a year after it came out...A YEAR

The Xbox One and the PS4 had Titanfall and inFAMOUS SS in 4 months after the consoles released.

Majin-vegeta3661d ago

Yea that's why the Wii u is killing it in sales....

KinjoTakemura3661d ago (Edited 3661d ago )

The Wii U has been on the market since 2012 and the Ps4 has sold about 1 million more units than the Wii U.

XiSasukeUchiha3661d ago

Let's all be friends and realize games not brands, We are not countries, we are gamers, N4G thank you to tell the truth though I never really hated Xbox Brand at all I just didn't like them after all the BS, and stupid decision they made, but thank MS for choosing Phil to bring Xbox back from the nether world and into the light, I am a gamer! not a fanboy, not a spy, not a PR leader, just a gamer.

OT: We will see (Sharingan).

Lawboy23661d ago

U r the man...and I mean that...some ppl just can't see it

nope1113661d ago

Sasuke is the most optimistic poster on N4G.
We can learn a thing or two from him.

choujij3661d ago

Um... He occasionally has a good post. When he's not referencing Naruto or going on some weird rant.

KakashiHotake3661d ago

Sasuke, I leave you with yet another truth...Well said foolish little brother.

LightDiego3661d ago

Sasuke is a pretty cool guy, he kills aliens and he doesn't afraid of anything.

choujij3661d ago

He doesn't afraid of anything you say? =P

tgunzz3661d ago

Well said.... There are some incredible games lined up to come out for both xb1, and ps4. I am one who prefer not to miss out on amazing exclusives no matter the console maker... Politics is not my passion, gaming is.

Hyper_Tension1403661d ago

Well said Sasuke.....never stop posting, I enjoy your comments dont listen to the haters.

psyxon3661d ago

So much truth, this guy speaks.

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sic_chops3661d ago

Thats right... Xbox hasn't caught up with the wii u yet

MysticStrummer3661d ago

WiiU will probably widen that gap next month too.

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welly3003661d ago

This is the first and last time I will get a console at launch, hype didnt fit wht was delivered still use ps3 wii u more then the ps4. If I was to chose a console now id go for x1 simply because they seem to be giving wht the gamers want.

madpuppy3660d ago (Edited 3660d ago )

That doesn't make any sense...

"If I was to chose a console now id go for x1 simply because they seem to be giving wht the gamers want."

A statement that explains absolutely nothing..

What do gamers want? A weaker console? unwanted features? why would Welly300 think that gamers want those things? sound more like an stealth agenda than an actual honest opinion.

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PlayStation Aims to Entice PC Gamers to Play Single-Player Sequels on Consoles

Sony aims to release live service PlayStation games day & date on PC and PS5, but single-player games will have more "strategic approach."

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-Foxtrot3d ago

How? I’m sorry but how when they literally port their games to the PC now after not even 2 years, it’s rumored GoW Ragnarok is next.

The best thing they could have done is focus on the generation before with PS3 / PS4 titles and when it got to the PS6 then start porting PS5 games so people will want to get the sequel on the new console

Now PC gamers just wait it out because they know it’s coming

Redemption-643d ago

Rock Star does the same thing. Release 1st on consoles, wait a year or two then release on PC. It's clearly a strategy that works for them.

They don't need a lot of PC gamers to move to Playstation, but they just need a few who would also buy into it and possibly double dip. There are some very unhappy gamers on Twitter, who wanted to hear day and date for all games.

Cacabunga3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Fox
Your analyse is not accurate..

If sony keeps things the way they are then they will grow the business. Some pc gamers who really liked God of War for example might buy PS4 or 5 to play Ragnarok. Same if they announce ghost of tsushima 2 or a new Ratchet game.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Rockstar?

Yeah I loved playing Red Dead Redemption on PC…….

@Cacabunga

I highly doubt it, PC gamers have their setups, if they didn’t budge for years to get a console despite all the cool exclusives then they aren’t going to budge now knowing a new PS5 game will get a port 2 years later

Crows903d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@cacbunga

Basically you're functioning under the assumption that PC players are impatient, rich and stupid.

Most will not budge. But if the hype is real enough they'll get a few. But those few won't actually be invested in the platform.

shinoff21832d ago

Those unhappy gamers will just have to suck it up. I'm sure Sony sees how thats worked out for Xbox. Why tf would they follow in their footsteps

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thorstein3d ago

How?

According to Sony, by co launching live service games like Helldivers2 day one, then enticing PC players to want to play sequels on the console for SP games.

That's how. If you play Ghost of Tsushima and Sony launches GoT 2 on PS later this year, you're more apt to want to grab the console and play the sequel instead of waiting.

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ThinkThink3d ago

Yeah, pc players are the most patient of players. They will just wait for the game to come to pc.

Tacoboto3d ago

You're just spitting back out the Sony PR line.

PC-first and PC-centric gaming is a different beast. Helldivers 2's popularity and GoT's popularity are because they're good solid games, not because they're from PlayStation publishing.

It's the same PlayStation that put Helldivers 2 for sale internationally, then pulled their PSN-Steam removal card. The same PlayStation that released Returnal with UE4's dreaded shader stutter. The same PlayStation that released TLOU Part 1 in a broken state.

If Sony's PS4 slate of titles didn't convince PC gamers, if their current PS5 titles still don't, ports of games they've had *years* of knowing and reading and hearing about aren't going to convince them to finally buy a console.

Don't fall so easily for the same PR BS that fabricates quotes from their own studio heads.

VincentVanBro3d ago

Nah I’ll wait for the best version on PC lol

JEECE3d ago

I mean that's certainly the thinking, but for most PC gamers that just won't work. Like in a rare circumstance if someone was already on the fence about a console that might get them to take the plunge and buy a PlayStation, but it will be the exception rather than the rule.

-Foxtrot3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

PC gamers are super patient

There's no f****** way, for example, they are going to get a PS5 the moment Ghost of Tsushima 2 is announced just because they played the PC port of the first game

The mindset?

"Ah cool GoT2 has been announced, really enjoyed the first game. Anyway I'll just play on the dozens of other games I have while I wait for the obvious PC port from Sony in like 2 years"

Not a chance they'll all wait now.

thorstein3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@tacoboto

"You're just spitting back the Sony PR line."

I literally said: "According to Sony."

I was responding to someone who asked "How?"

I gave Fox an answer that reflects Sony's thinking. Maybe read the OP's comment and then reading a reply to that person as if it's an answer to their question instead of sounding off in such a bizarre way. See Jeece's reply to mine.

@Dom I do. Sony may not, but then again, they've made billions in the gaming industry and you've made $0.

INMATEofARKHAM2d ago

@thorstein PC gamers have been condition to wait... Epic Games exclusives don't sell well and EA, Ubisoft, and MS have all come back/or arrived on Steam and that's all for preferred store front that doesn't cost money at all so to think people will rush out to spend 500 dollars on a console (whichvcould be used to help pay for PC upgrades) is a bit naive.

shinoff21832d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I think some of yall are giving pc gamers to much credit. Not every pc gamer is gonna be the same. I'm sure sony isnt expecting all pc gamers to switch, that would be foolish. Idk how many pc goers are there. 500 million 400 million idk really. Say son bgets 5 million of them to it was worth it. If you say none imma call bs

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romulus233d ago

You're mistakenly speaking for all PC gamers, there are bound to be some people who are not willing to wait and for Sony those are potential console buyers.

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

eh, no ... if a PC gamer is playing on a PC, they'll continue to do so ... there are tons n tons of games on Steam alone and the steam gamers' backlog stories are one of the most discussed topic you'll find in PC forums ... indie is already huge there, plus early access, PC-exclusive titles, VR, big publishers' titles and now Sony's ports too.
Realistically speaking, usually there's not enough time to complete the backlog alone, than go buy a separate console altogether.
The only game that has the power somewhat to make a PC gamer to get a console is GTA VI.
PC gaming existed and proliferated well before this recent Sony's PC decision.

StormSnooper3d ago

@romulus23
True, there will be new gamers who will be exposed to PlayStation IPs, and they will possibly obtain PSN accounts, both of which make people more inclined to purchase PlayStation.

VincentVanBro2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t think you understand PC gaming. We have sooooo many games to play it’s kind of ludicrous. The insane Steam backlog is not a myth. So, we’ll happily wait for the best version of a game.

outsider16242d ago (Edited 2d ago )

How these guys think that they're only pc gamers that won't buy a console, I'll never know..lol. we're talking about the whole world here..not a few guys on this site or reddit.

Edit: in fact there's posts on reddit how they bought a ps5 after having played a few exclusives on PC.

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romulus233d ago

"Not a chance they'll all wait now."

You don't know what all of them will do. Some may wait some may not.

StormSnooper3d ago

Well, if they want the games when they release, they will need a PlayStation. If they are ok with waiting, then they can do that. I think it’s a sound gameplan for PlayStation. The release of games on PC, will generate additional fans for the ips.

kaos893d ago

So who cares how / when someone chooses to spend or not spend their money? Sony gets their money for their game sold either way whether its on PS5 or PC, so in the end what does it matter?

Resistance_lord2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

PC gamers will wait a year to get a game $10 cheaper lol. they ain't gonna go out and spend $500 on a system to play 1 game. people underestimate them big time.

outsider16242d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@Fox
It actually works, i know some of my friends and cousins who cannot wait and bought a Ps5 to play Horizon FW. In fact they cannot believe that "ps has amazing games" lol

Sure there's others who can wait a whole year or two but then there's others who have to play as soon as possible.

Christopher2d ago

*** Now PC gamers just wait it out because they know it’s coming ***

I think a lot of people who would abandon consoles entirely don't because of the wait. Sure, they aren't drawing new users from PC like they want, but they are maintaining while getting more from PC-only gamers (possibly even double taps from those who own both).

Einhander19722d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The PS5 Pro is going to be WAY above the average PC of users on Steam.

The PS5 Pro will be able to play every single game they have released on PC at PC settings with a minimum of 60FPS and higher with unlocked framerates.

Jingsing2d ago

I agree, there is zero logic from Sony on this. Sony completely underestimate how stubborn a PC player is. They can wait, I'll now wait as I've stopped buying games for my PS5 and will now acquire them for free on PC.

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helicoptergirl3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"While Helldivers 2 was released day and date on both PS5 and PC, don’t expect single-player narrative-driven games to be released in the same boat by Sony anytime soon. - This was confirmed by PlayStation’s soon-to-be co-CEO Hermen Hulst in Sony’s business segment presentation"

There you have it. Won't be 'day and date' single player games on PC anytime soon or for the forseeable future. They understand single player games are Playstation's backbone.

CrashMania3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

So much for the nonsense narrative that playstation is somehow failing so they are going to immediately start releasing every single game day and date on PC lol.

Elda3d ago

That is what the competition has to deal with.

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Elda3d ago

Agreed. First & foremost Playstation not only wants to sell their AAA first party games but their gaming consoles to play them on that is why their AAA first party games come to PC later after it sells on PS consoles.

ocelot073d ago

I was told that Playstation was doing so bad on here and on X that Helldivers 2 was going to release on Xbox and Sony was going to start releasing all games on pc day and date with playstation. Why do people constantly lie on the internet!!!!!

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Fishy Fingers3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

We've gone from you'll never see PS games on PC, to you'll never see any PS games day one on PC, to you'll see some PS games day one but have to wait for others.

I mean, its kinda looks like it's heading one way no? That "wait" is going to get shorter and shorter.

Fishy Fingers3d ago

It's happening.

God of War 2018 - 4 years
Horizon Zero dawn - 3 years
Horizon Forbidden West - 2 years

StormSnooper3d ago

Well, with MS going full PC/multiplatform, PlayStation will need to adapt. Luckily, they are in a position to hold the fort for all lovers of console gaming. Otherwise, if MS’s business model was the norm, we can all kiss console gaming goodbye.

Thank god for Sony.

HankHill3d ago

Exactly. As usual, the usual suspects on here are coping and moving goal posts.

darthv723d ago

Ragnarok is now 1y and 10m between PS-PC release. Its only going to get shorter over time.

outsider16242d ago

Well, change of leaderships on Sony did that, under Jim it looked like a lot has changed. Who would have thought eh?
Who would have thought under Big ole Phil xbox games would come to Playstation eh?

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

That's a smart move because at the end of the day playstation is a hardware business and need to sell hardware folks

Software_Lover3d ago

Meh, I'm done with consoles altogether.

Bathyj3d ago

Considering the amount of bangers PlayStation and Nintendo make, your name doesn't sound very apt.

darthv723d ago

Well I think he means that on PC, all software eventually is playable on it. Which is true.

Consoles just are a convenient way of playing some sooner than later.

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Darth, all software eventually is playable on PC through emulation and theft of games. You forgot that part. It's not through legal means.

andy853d ago

Most, not all. Unless you're talking emulation

Mad_Matt3d ago

Apocalypse- You consider emulation theft of games? LMAO
Way to shill for corporations.

Software_Lover3d ago

This gen has been trash. I was already on the fence but caved and bought the consoles, I have regretted that decision. Most of the games that I would play come to PC anyway. I'm done with consoles. I have had the best time with PC this gen and a good amount last gen that it just pulled me away.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

@Shadow
Emulators and emulation are legal not rooms you're inaccurate

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New PlayStation Handheld Reported Again, Supposedly Runs PS4 Games

Another leaker has claimed that a PSP/PS Vita style PlayStation handheld is in the works, and it'll supposedly support PS4 games.

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anast16d ago

If this is true, it will crush everything for the price.

VenomUK15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Needs to be a PS5 portable.

Cacabunga15d ago

PS4 native with PS5 remote play capabilities. Would be sweet.

And let PS Portal support cloud streaming for all PS+ games.

anast15d ago

Going off all the pricing behavior of Sony to this point. I'm willing to bet it will be cheaper than the Steam Deck. And when the price is revealed and I am right, send me a message.

Cacabunga15d ago

Could be an attempt to counter switch 2 which will have PS4 power.
Imagine all the PS4 third party re releases switch 2 is going to get.. “PS4 portable” could get the exact same games once again and publishers can resell software ..

If this portable has provides PS5 remote play on top then it will have a nice argument and exclusive feature.

DarXyde14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Cacabunga,

Possibly, though I think any attempt to win against Nintendo in the handheld space is hopeless.

I loved the PSP and I still enjoy my Vita, but there's something about a full scale Mario and Zelda in your hands that makes it clear Sony should share the space, but never dream of taking it.

It's a very safe bet from Sony to have it run PS4 games too because then neither you nor developers are on the hook to make dedicated games for it.

Time will tell. I hope it's real. I'm willing to bet that it is—this is an inevitable strategy for Nintendo and the Surface team is allegedly handling Microsoft's next hardware stint. Sony wouldn't be the only one without portable hardware.

JL293014d ago

$199 for a dedicated handheld when they are trying to sell that piece of shit streaming screen for the same price. Hilarious.

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crazyCoconuts15d ago

It would be a niche product like Portal. Not bad, but not mainstream. It's legacy PS4 right?

Kneetos15d ago

The switch 2 and next steam deck will be out by then and will likely be way more popular

anast15d ago

The switch 2 will be a handheld Series S for kids and the next steam deck will be ridiculously over priced for a bunch of aging CRPGS and F2P mobile style games.

Kneetos15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

@Anast the switch 2 will Fortnite dance on the new Sony handhelds grave
Playstation can't compete with Nintendo there

With playstation porting all it's games to pc and by extension steam deck it pretty much makes the new pshandheld system irrelevant

Especially since all I ever hear from the Sony crowd is "I NEED graphics or I can't enjoy the game" a handheld PS4 is going the same way as Sony's handheld ps3

Hypertension14015d ago (Edited 15d ago )

If the switch 2 isn't backwards compatible, it will fail.

If this is true, then it will already have a large of games to play from the start, add ps1,ps2,psp,vita games to the mix, and it can be massively popular.

anast14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The switch is a Mario machine and for kids, they have their own space. Tell me where I am wrong here.

The problem is that Sony isn't porting all of the games to the Steam Deck specifically. The Steam Deck can't play every game. It even has a verified category with games that run the best and a "playable" category that can barely run games. So, the best option to play would obviously be a Sony product.

The last point is inane. I can't respond to comments that use caps. the point should be able to stand on it's own

NotoriousWhiz14d ago

It doesn't matter hiw popular the Playstation handheld is if it shares the same library as the PS5. It just brings more people into the ecosystem and provides them with more ways to play their games.

Kneetos14d ago

@anast Nintendo is competing with Sony and no amount of backpedaling will change that
They were competing during the GameCube era and the Wii u era, coincidentally the 2 gens they lost to Sony, but we're suddenly not competing during the ds, Wii and 3ds era because they beat playstation, but of course we can't have that can we so "Nintendo isn't competition Sony auto wins"

The switch is more then a mario and even a first party machine these days as there are plenty of games, specifically Japanese and indi games that are doing better on switch then their ps counterpart
It's irrelevant that Sony isn't specifically porting to steam deck, the games will end up on there and people will wait for a pc port just like how playstation fans wait for a playstation port of games, you aren't unique

Playstation fans constantly brag on graphics, so a handheld that only plays PS4 games isn't going to entice a lot of them, like the vita before it, and Sony has a history of just dropping unsuccessful projects, the vita psvr and it looks like the portal isn't doing too hot either

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Vits15d ago

They literally charged people $199 for a bottom-of-the-barrel tablet with a DualSense controller bolted on. So I really can't see them releasing a powerful yet affordable native handheld.

Ps5conehead15d ago

I love my portal I’m handicapped and the portal lets me play on days I’m not at my best. It’s great .and the screen is admazing even though it’s not oled

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-Foxtrot15d ago

If you had every PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP and PSV game then sure but I mean if it's just the PS4 why not just get a Steam Deck?

anast15d ago

You might be correct, but it depends on the price point. Also, most PC gamers wait years for Sony releases, so it might be better just to get the PS4 handheld.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

I'd be surprised if Sony reversed course and continued to put new releases on PS4. It would cannibalize their PS5 sales

MrBaskerville15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

If it supports your library, some people own more ps4 games than steam games. I know I do.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

I might buy something like this to play my old library but man those old games are cheap on steam. This console would have to be cheap to make sense. I don't see it happening

MrBaskerville15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

@CrazyCoconuts
I also think it sounds a little off. I would probably buy if it could run Ps5 games, but that sounds expensive. Being ps4 only is a little limiting I think.

But if it ran all ps4 titles and new stuff created for the handheld. then it could be interesting. Basically a Vita that just happened to come with a huge ass backlog of existing games.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

My libraries are roughly equal in size for both, maybe if I could play more classics games on the Playstation one I could consider it. But it's a tough selling point for people who aren't already heavily invested in the Playstation ecosystem.

SegaSaturn66915d ago

Deck is very viable option given how good PS3 and switch emulation have become. Even new releases are chugging along at 30fps.

Lexreborn215d ago

To be fair, I have a lot of ps4 games I don’t have on steam that is can play on my ps5 but I choose to play ps5 games on my ps5.

I also haven’t rebought any of my PlayStation exclusives on PC because I own them on my ps4/5 and even the upgraded ways that rival the pc version. So, if I wanted to play them on my steam deck I would still have to buy them again which if I bought the 6 top games Spider-Man 1,2, mm, horizon, fw , GoW and ragnarok and GoT with LoU1,2. It would more then. Likely be the cost of this device.

So, instead of double dipping I would buy the handheld and if it has a playable sf6 that actually works online (steam deck is not functional) I think I would want it for myself

Vits15d ago

If you have them in digital form, for sure. Because I don't see Sony giving you a digital copy of your old physical PS4 games. That doesn't sound like them at all.

And also, Steam doesn't depend on PS4 games. PC got more games that generation than all the consoles combined. The ports of PlayStation games are just one of the cherries on top of the cake.

Lexreborn215d ago

@vits I do have them in digital form which is why I said from my perspective. I also have a steam deck but that doesn’t mean everything runs on it which not everything is playable. And as I am also stating the perks of why people WOULD want them even while having a steam deck it’s weird to see people disagreeing purely because I wouldn’t want to double dip financially.

But even in the event you have physical copies of games, if you have ps plus most if not all of the ps4 games are there. So, it’s not like the options are non existent and people can’t find VIABLE reasons to purchase the device.

If people are justifying the portal, they can justify a dedicated portable. The desire to make it seem like people can only own one thing these days is an odd occurrence.

Vits15d ago

@Lexreborn2
Then for sure, if you already have your library in digital form, something that can tap into it is definitely a good deal. That's basically the same reason why the Steam Deck is popular with PC and Steam users in general, because their library is available on it.

PS Plus is an extra cost though, and those games aren't yours. So I get where you are coming from, but that is a different discussion. As for the Portal, I don't get how people justify that piece of crap either, but they sure did so I can see a PS Vita 2 being sucessful. I don't see it being cheap or better value than the Steam Deck or any Windows Handheld, unless Sony really makes some radical changes.

As for why people want one device to rule them all instead of a bunch of them, it's likely because most people here are adults. If I recall correctly, the N4G user base is around their mid-30s. At this point in life, the issue is not usually owning things but actually having time to use them.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@Vits,
I don't think a new PS handheld would be worth it for me after owning the Steamdeck, assuming there will probably be a lot of overlap of both libraries in my case, so just having the one device is fine for me (I don't need the clutter or devices with too much overlap). I'll probably just stream the PS4 games I don't have on Steam to the Steam Deck via Chiaki, I would probably need the PS handheld to have its own exclusives to entice me.

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Profchaos15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Because if you already have a large digital library of PS4 titles and this plays PS4 games you don't need much more than the system. It's also rumoured to play some ps5 games.

If you buy a steam deck you have to re buy your library.

Eonjay14d ago

If you are already in he PS ecosystem you probably have hundreds of digital PS4 games. Especially if you are on PSPlus Extra. These folks, of which there are millions upon millions would probably rater have access to the games they already own vs buying them all again on Steam.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

This is the question, might be nice for the Playstation exclusive games from previous generations, but Sony's Playstation Classics lineup is seriously lacking, especially from their PS1 catalogue, I don't think the PS2/PS3 catalogue are that huge either.

A Steam Deck is already somewhere between a PS4 and a PS4 Pro in terms of power. Without those exclusive games from Sony's previous consoles, I don't see how you could convince anyone a new Playstation handheld to be better value than a Steam Deck. I can also literally put previous Playstation's libraries onto it without too much trouble.

-Foxtrot14d ago

“ Without those exclusive games from Sony's previous consoles, I don't see how you could convince anyone a new Playstation handheld to be better value than a Steam Deck.”

Exactly and this is a prime example of why exclusives matter

Without them Steamdeck just looks like the better choice overall

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MeteorPanda15d ago

I still play my vita. The oled screen was too good for it's time. I obviously had to home brew it but playing my old snes/ps1 games on it is so good.

Barlos14d ago

So many times I've been tempted to hack my Vita but I just can't bring myself to do it. I kind of want it to be as originalas possible. Also, for emulation I have my steam deck.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I was tempted to hack my Vita, but I couldn't bear to risk it, something about having the original software/experience on the handheld.

I'll happily emulate on the Steam Deck, especially the games that weren't available on the Aussie store or ones I just missed out on.

Skuletor15d ago

How many people will buy this at launch? As a Vita owner, I'd definitely hold back after how Sony's support for that turned out.
Also, PSP played near PS2 quality games, PS Vita played near PS3 quality games, shouldn't the next Playstation handheld be aiming for near PS5 quality?

MeteorPanda15d ago

the sadest thing on vita support for me was the removal of Close? The app that let you see local players and what they were playing. i made friends back in the day for co op that way lol.

I think it was privacy breaching? such a shame.

Skuletor15d ago

Vita had so much promise, I wonder what it would have taken for Sony to have been more supportive. GTA: San Andreas Stories would have probably brought more sales alone, if they could have gotten that. I was disappointed we never really got anything on the same level as Killzone: Mercenary after that game, which looked amazing running on the Killzone 3 engine. Would have loved to see new entries of PS IP like Infamous, God of War etc, Sony really dropped the ball and using proprietary memory cards that were ridiculously priced didn't help, if they were smart, they'd have sold them cheaper since they were mainly being used to store stuff people were paying for in their store anyway, lol.

anast15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The people that remember the vita are in the minority.

Skuletor15d ago

So are the amount of people that bought it

Einhander197215d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The point would be that it plays PS4 games, PS4 is still getting games constantly.

Everyone here including yourself presumably already has a library of games to play on this.

The success of the Portal shows the value of not needing to have a separate game library.

Skuletor15d ago

I don't think it will have native PS4 support

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

@Skuletor,
Why not? The PS5 plays PS4 games fine (because the tech is similar), one could assume that if Sony is using AMD hardware, then they will probably have native PS4 support.

MeteorPanda14d ago

Honestly the amount of games you could get on these cards was better value than what the switch was offering per cartidge. Cartridges got no slack from these same people.

The games for vita were very cheap, 30 dollars on average in store.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

I'm still salty about the proprietary memory card prices, I don't remember those ever getting cheap.

Eonjay14d ago

I mean how mich more support does the PS4 really need. It's not a new system... just a portable PS4. There are over 10 000 PS4 games available. Sony doesn't need to support it.

There are some crazy rumors out there but we don't have the technology to run a Series S in Portal mode let alone a PS5.

Skuletor14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

How many people that have a physical PS4 library will be willing to buy their games again to download these rumoured PS4 games to this rumoured portable? Until it gets officially revealed, none of us really know how this thing will operate but I will point out, Sony usually sell their consoles at low profit with the intention of making more money later in software sales. People that will be mostly playing games they already own, won't be their largest target market, most likely.

Also, hopefully it would have it's own exclusives to highlight the portables strengths too and not just games from a last gen system

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

Even if we did have the technology, imagine how terrible the battery life would be! You'd have to be more tethered to a power outlet than any of the other PC handhelds.

Barlos14d ago

Yeah same here. The way they handled the Vita has left me burned. I don't trust them to give a handheld the support it needs and so I'll not buy it at launch. I need to see their commitment first.

FinalFantasyFanatic14d ago

No, I don't think the technology would be near enough to give us PS5 quality, not unless you're okay with 20 mins battery life (then there's heat dissipation and weight to think of too). I feel like that's the mistakes PC handhelds like Rog Ally, MSI Claw and Lenovo Legion Go make, they over power the Steam Deck, but you pay for it in battery life, I'd rather have more battery life when I'm using a handheld.

To be fair though, with the race to beat climate change/reach net-zero, they're developing new battery tech all the time, maybe in a few years we could have a battery that adds a stupid amount of playtime to a powerful handheld.

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Petebloodyonion19d ago

Bogus!
Why would Sony do that and how would this benefit them?
1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event.
2) Risk of not having great coverage or proper coverage from the various source
3) It could give the impression that they are not confident in their own stuff.
4) They would miss the chance to hype the event losing viewers and losing free marketing time.

Again I'm calling it bogus unless it's a small showcase before the big one or because they want to announce that Hellbalde 2 is also coming on PS5.

SlothLordPootus19d ago

As far as I can remember, they typically give a week heads up for these sorts of things.

Lightning7719d ago

I was about to say Sony always gives a week in advance for their show.

VersusDMC19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Last year it was a weeks notice.

https://blog.playstation.co...

May 17th announcement for may 24th show.

VersusDMC19d ago

Nintendo always tweets that a direct is happening tomorrow but no one cares.

Sony gives a week or days of notice and we get anti sony type fake outrage like this.

But good luck trying trying to get some Sony hate going...

Petebloodyonion19d ago

You just mention it!
Sony gives a week in advance NOT just a couple of days.
So I fail to see what Sony's hate movement I'm trying to start when it's a basic business strategy to not piss off your partners (ask Sega).
And I doubt it's hate to ask how it would benefit Sony in doing so.

thesoftware73019d ago (Edited 19d ago )

@Versus
Huh? What?

Bro you really should relax, if what you read was some kinda negative against Sony.... seriously, is that what you got from the comments?

Bro, he was debunking the rumor, and gave perfectly good reasons why it would be unlikely, and your Nintendo Direct comparison is different, as this is supposed to be a BIG Sony showcase, not a surprise 20 min direct, and Sony 's pattern has been one week.

Slow down warmonger.

VersusDMC19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

@thesoftware730

"1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event."

That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind?

And it's not like they need that many resources to cover the stream. They just need 3 people to react to the stream live and make some easy articles made up mostly of summaries of Sony provided press releases. They would have enough time to "prepare" if it was announced with one days notice.

Petebloodyonion19d ago

@Versus
" That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind"

No, it simply implies that some media all over the world might (keyword MIGHT) not properly cover the event like having proper articles for each game announced, or having a proper preshow. maybe some popular YouTubers won't have time to prepare or simply your local newspaper doing an article on tech and game.

So why would Sony take a chance?
What benefit would that give them?

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Petebloodyonion19d ago

Before I get tons of replies for Sony given a week in advance, my initial comments are related to the notion that the Show could happen this week as the title mentions.
Now to be fair the complete article mentions that Jeff said the Show could happen later in May giving time for Sony to give the normal 7-day notice.

Again not trying to start a negative thing here just thinking that it's bogus that Sony will have a show this week

notachance19d ago

Yeah as much as I’d like to hear what sony’s 1st parties have cooked, it’s not their style to shadow drop a showcase.

Still waiting for ghost of tsushima 2, I’m ready whenever man..

KwietStorm_BLM19d ago

You're assuming media outlets don't know about it.

gold_drake19d ago

i can tell you that no one cares if ign is pissed or not.

watching a livestream and writing stuff aint the world. many habe done that before your god ign.

fr0sty19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

As a former gaming journalist that covered Sony & Nintendo's E3 conferences 3 separate times and was flown out to multiple press events for THQ, Square, and EA, let me inform you of this thing called an "embargo" that journalists are put under... it's very possible that details of this event have been given to the gaming press, but they are not yet allowed to discuss it. In fact, that may be where our leaker got their info...

Petebloodyonion19d ago

Tks for sharing this info :) but let's be honest I doubt that Jeff Grubb would left in the dark due to his notoriety while the rest of Gamespot ppl are in the knowing.

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Hofstaderman19d ago

Going in with no expectations but likely will see something that resonates with me.

FinalFantasyFanatic19d ago

I hope there's something impressive in there.

DeadlyFire19d ago

Nah they will announce it probably, but it won't happen right away soon though yes.

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