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What is wrong with Sony’s Vita?

If you have a Playstation Vita then chances are that, like us here at 8Bitbot, you love the device. It delivers on almost every aspect a gamer on the go could hope for yet sales are poor and it is receiving a beating against Nintendo’s 3DS that is worse than the PSP vs DS battle of last generation. However in that generation the DS had exceptional sales and the PSP had great sales, they co-existed. This does not seem to be the case for the current generation, with the 3DS doing well it’s possible that the Vita could die if things don’t turn around.

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MultiConsoleGamer3771d ago

Nothing.

It's problems are related to the changing market.

SynGamer3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

Yes and no. I agree that a changing market caught Sony off-guard, BUT, the Vita REALLY needs some major titles. Final Fantasy, GTA, Gran Turismo, Battlefeld, (a better) COD, etc. So far, we've gotten Killzone and LBP...

That said, more games like Tearaway are also welcomed with open arms.

Kingthrash3603771d ago

one word............marketing

mcstorm3770d ago

I agree. I was very excited about the psv and got it on that 1st day but sold it early this year as it has not got a lot of games that have me interested yet the 3ds which I thought was not going to have me interested has turned me around to loving the consoles.

Sony need to bring some new ips out for it and also market it better. It is each to there own in terms of what games they like but the psv is really only trying to pickup a small market where the has games for all types of gamers.

Mr_Writer853770d ago

New IPs?

What like Gravity Rush, Soul Sacrifice and Tearaway?

Back on topic.

There is nothing wrong with the Vita itself other then it's aimed at a niche market rather then a casual one like mobile and 3DS.

It's aimed at the hardcore.

Yet only a small % of the hardcore want a portable console.

Even then you have people who want it to be a full home console experience and others who think it should be a indie and smaller game device.

The market is not only small it's fractured as well.

The device itself is a lovely bit of hardware it's just whilst for the likes of me it has a huge selection of different genres.

For others the selection is spread a little thin and so they believe it has no games. When truth is it has lots of games but maybe only a few that appeal to said person.

UltimateMaster3770d ago

It lacks proper R2/L2 buttons.

ShinMaster3770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

PS Vita has PLENTY of really great games:
http://m.ign.com/articles/2...
Anyone who says it doesn't have any is full of BS.

@ SynGamer

You mean major titles like Uncharted, UMvC, Fifa, SFxTk, LBP, Killzone?
FF, GTA and GT are not gonna move many units. They will mostly appeal to people who already have a PS Vita.

The problem is people don't know how to appreciate lower profile games, no matter how excellent and sometimes better than some big blockbuster franchises they may be.

SynGamer3770d ago

@ShinMaster - I didn't feel the need to list everything off, and I will admit I completely forgot about Uncharted (launch-ish title?), and Gravity Rush. But I don't count multiplatform games like UMvC, Fifa, SFxTk as big games for the system.

And that's an issue the PSV currently has; all it gets are ports, or indie games. And while many indie games are great fun, having spent $300 on my Vita, I really don't want to waste my 5" OLED screen on pixel games...personal preference, not judging anyone.

Conzul3770d ago

Agree about marketing fail.

Peeps at my college keep asking, "Hey, is that the new psp?"
Then they pull out their 3ds and play zelda. Even the chicks are into it.
No love for the Vita :(

Drabent3770d ago

Ppl are broke thats all lol.

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PSNintyGamer3771d ago

I disagree those memory card prices are enough of a problem on their own.

VforVideogames3770d ago

Yep you are right those ridiculous prices are the real problem, why can we use a regular memory card like the 3ds or tablets? And not to mention that you have to be careful how we grab that thing.

Mr_Writer853770d ago

They cost more and are used because

A) The hardware is cheaper so Sony as they always do charge more for the extras.

B) To help battle piracy.

However the price of memory cards is rather weak if you ask me.

Because unless you are going full digital (because of the plus games) then 4GB is more then enough.

And if you are going digital well with the amount of games Plus gives you would more then the cost of a bigger memory card. So again that brings balance.

The only way I would understand the gripe is if you are going digital but don't have Plus. But I bet that % is the minority.

DualWielding3770d ago

they are a problem for the reason the article stated, people refuse to be ripped off you can argue all you want about how PS plus or whatever means Vita is still a good value despite memory cards prices...

But the reality is that a significant number of consumers look at those memory card prices and simply refuse to pay them as matter of principle and thus don't buy a Vita.....

3-4-53770d ago

Buttons are too small.

Other than that, not much.

Mithan3770d ago

I agree with you. The smart phone market has moved in.

That doesn't mean there isn't room for these dedicated handheld gaming devices, just that the market is much smaller than it was 5 years ago.

I think a lot of people probably look at it and go "ya, I don't need it". I've owned most of the previous Handhelds, and that is what I did. I just don't have an interest and 2 or 3 titles isn't going to make me do it either.

Eyeco3770d ago

The problem with the Vita is that it needs to find an audience, who is Sony trying to sell this console to ? as of right now it's turning out to be a peripheral for the PS4, which is a shame because games like Teraway fully demonstrate the potential of the system, and that's what the Vita needs more, weird unique games, that make full use of the handhelds qualities.

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dedicatedtogamers3771d ago

It doesn't have a mass-market system-seller, that's what is wrong. It has a wide variety of niche titles that make the system as a whole worth owning, but there isn't a single game on Vita that I can point to and say "see? That game will make it fly off the shelves"

Then again, my favorite games on PSP were niche titles so I guess I don't really mind.

Vita needs a Monster Hunter, obviously, and a Gran Turismo wouldn't hurt, either, seeing how GT on PSP was the highest-selling non-Monster Hunter game iirc.

MarioAna3771d ago

With Monster Hunter looking unlikely it's really just down to GT now. However i don't believe that one game alone can push that many sales on it's own. They need a compelling library.

Personally i think Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Soul Sacrifice and Killzone are all exceptional games. The Vita does have some really strong titles in it's library but it still needs more.

dedicatedtogamers3771d ago

Oh, I agree it has a strong library. I own a Vita. I love the Vita. I'm just pointing out that it doesn't have a "system seller" compared to the 3DS. 3DS could sell fine on Mario alone (Mario Kart, Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros 2) and has system-sellers to spare (FE Awakening, SMT4, new Zelda, Pokemon)

GdaTyler3770d ago

Actually GTA Liberty City Stories was the PSP's best selling game, though.

maniacmayhem3770d ago

I think it's time to stop blaming the Vita's poor sales on no critical games or no promotions through marketing. The Vita has a very strong line up of games and it is marketed by Sony heavy. It's time to face the fact that the Vita just isn't an appealing item to the consumer.

3DS is running off of a bigger than life old customer base upgrading from the Nintendo's previous handhelds plus the huge backlog of games as the 3ds is BS with DS. The low price is attractive and it's main target are kids and young adults and Nintendo has pulled it off really well.

The Vita just can't capture that same market as it looks to promote to teenagers/college kids and adults, most of that market are not into handheld gaming but tablets and smartphones.

dedicatedtogamers3770d ago

Marketed by Sony heavily? A strong lineup of games? In what world are you living?

It has a great lineup of games, but not a lot of mass-market games. As far as marketing goes, you must be trolling. Sony has barely marketed the Vita (although I do not believe that marketing is as big of a deal as some people make it out to be).

DualWielding3770d ago

What Vita don't have is the number of exclusives with drawing power that 3DS has, it actually have some in Japan but they are yet to reach the west...

I disagree with you, I think its kids and older adults who have jump to the bandwagon of mobile gaming.... those in the 16-40 demographic that have grown playing with consoles would never accept a touchscreen as a substitute for physical buttons

maniacmayhem3770d ago

Not a lot of mass market games?? Madden, CoD, Uncharted, MvC3, Fifa, Killzone and a number of other very successful franchises are on the Vita. They have a huge variety of strong titles plus the niche games you and others mentioned. So unless your world is some place other than Earth, yes it does have a very strong line up.

How can you say Sony barely markets the Vita? Do you even watch TV? The first few years we were bombarded with Vita commercials showing off what it does and how good the graphics were. Sony advertised hard during the playoffs in baseball two years or so back. They continue to show the Vita during any PS3 ad. Sony does a great job letting the public know of the device.

I honestly think it's reverse trolling to come into a Vita story and claim anything else but the obvious and that's non interest in the device from the majority of the consumers.

DualWielding3770d ago

the problem is that most of those are not exclusive the strength of the 3DS is not on massive games but smaller franchises with smaller but highly dedicated fanbases that are willing to buy a console only for the next installment for example,

Kindgom Hearts, Layton, Ace Attorney, Shin Megami Tensei (multiple exclusive titles including the latest numbered entry), Etrian Oddisey (multiple exclusive titles), Resident evil (it had a true survival horror resident evil as a exclusive for a while), Monster Hunter (outside japan, in japan is as massive as it gets), the fans of all those franchises add up, when you sum them to the pokemon and the general nintendo fanboys then is how you get the massive isntall base....

The Vita's power is actually part of its problem, it's so powerful people expect near PS3 production values but that's more than anyone especially third party western developers are willing to invest in a handheld exclusive...... Because you can get away with lower production values in the 3DS it makes it the only console for which it can be truly cost-effective for a third party to release a exclusive

dedicatedtogamers3770d ago

So you'd agree that the reason why the Wii-U isn't selling is because it just isn't an appealing item to the consumer?

After all, it has received plenty of marketing and plenty of mass-market games (many more than the Vita, that's for sure).

maniacmayhem3770d ago

Yes, the Wii-U isn't selling because it isn't appealing to the mass of consumers. It was marketed all wrong and it's coming off of a system that was a fad with the same name. I can list a bunch more problems I saw wrong with the WiiU, it's not a bad system, just like the Vita isn't either.

But this isn't about the WiiU now is it Dedicated? I find it funny you had to throw that in our discussion concerning the Vita....

I wonder why...

sherimae24133770d ago

wait wait wait...
what the hell is supposed to be a "System Seller"!?

is it a game where you will do anything to buy that certain "console" just to play that game?

because that certain game have sold you to buy the system?

because for ME, Gravity Rush is the system seller that make me impulse buy a Plasystation VITA
how about you? doesnt you have any that make you buy the VITA since launch?

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Cajun Chicken3771d ago

Not enough games. Except for that, love it.

Neonridr3771d ago

The only problem I can see with the Vita is their main selling point (when the thing first launched) was look at how much more powerful our handheld is vs the other guys' handheld. They didn't really stop to think that without really compelling software, nobody is going to want to spend $250+ on something that they may use "occasionally" or sometime down the road because there might be a good game coming.

I think the Vita has definitely started to increase in appeal, party due to the PS4's launch and the great companion that the Vita can become to the console. The Remote Play feature I think has won many people over just like the Off Screen feature is something that most Wii U owners love. The lowering of the price also helped as $200 is much more fathomable when you are talking about a handheld (the 3DS XL sells for $200 as well).

Unfortunately, most developers are still going to go where the userbase is, and so that kind of leaves the Vita in a strange place. It kind of reminds me of the Wii U partly. Developers know that the console is capable, but the install base isn't large enough for them to want to port their games over because they don't feel like they will recoup enough back. Strange sort of parallel I guess, but somewhat accurate.

Regardless, the Vita will be fine, it will still continue to sell. There will be some great games that will release on the handheld (just like there already has been). I never really considered purchasing a Vita in the past, however now owning a PS4 and loving the Off Screen feature of the Wii U, I am highly considering getting one so I can enjoy the Remote Play feature with my PS4. Not to mention there are a few games that interest me, so I am sure I would give a few of those a go as well.

sherimae24133770d ago

and for once i do agree with you here...
let see what the vita will have for this year hope it doesnt give us another dissapointing e3 and a so-so gamescom, TGS was much more better in 2013

anyway VITA has great games coming till march like danganronpa, toukiden, final fantasy x - x-2 HD, Deception 4 blood ties

and more confirmed games coming to west like dynasty warriors 8 xtreme legends and maybe disgaea 4 return
and somehow teased senran kagura shinovi versus and akibas trip and warriors orochi 3 ultimate

and i wish freedom wars and over my dead body 2 from japan studio should also be localized too this year

take note there is still also borderlands 2 and minecraft and lot of indies to be released too that were announced last year ^_^

SpiralTear3771d ago

The Vita hardware isn't the problem. It's how negligent Sony's been to it, both from a software support standpoint and a marketing standpoint.

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

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RiseNShine13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno12d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

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Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers22d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken21d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g22d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing22d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H922d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola21d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66922d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle22d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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