GTA IV online is down

PS3Fanboy writes: "If you are a proud owner of Grand Theft Auto IV on the PS3, then you might not be so proud to know that the online multi-player mode is down. Or, at least it appears to be so for PS3 patrons. Numerous players have received errors upon attempting to connect; this blogger included has not been able to get the multi-player to work. An error message pops up: "Cannot connect to game provider, please try again." Hopefully, Rockstar can get things running soon. Wouldn't want to upset the GTA IV crowd, if you know what we mean. In the meantime, get back to the single player game. We'll keep you posted as we find out more."

[Silellak]

Hm, interesting. I wonder if it's overloaded, or if they're just taking the servers down for some fixes/updates/whatever. After all, MOST people are either at work or school.

I wonder how long until GTA4 pulls a CoD4 and brings down XBox Live.

Can XBL survive the combined wrath of GTA4 and CoD4? This weekend will be an interesting one.

If Infinity Ward was really mean, they'd make this a double XP weekend!

[BenzMoney]

Microsoft stated last week that they doubled the capacity of XBL during that shutdown last Monday, so I'm hoping things will continue to run smoothly. I still have about 6 hours to go before I'll be logging in for the first time and I'd like to test out some multiplayer tonight!

As for the PS3 issues, it's anyone's guess. Reports last week said that Rockstar is using Gamespy servers for GTA4...?

[sonarus]

Is this for everybody or for some because this is my first time hearing of this

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

So far so good for Live, been green all day.

[BenzMoney]

Good to hear! I'm planning on pulling off some epic heists and drive-bys with my boys tonight.

[jackdoe]

That really depends. If EVERYONE who bought GTAIV on the 360 decided to play online today, it will probably bring down Live, but I somehow doubt everyone will want to play online once they get the game. Its all about the single player.

[dan-boy]

man it's a shame that we got invited out for dinner tonite....especially as most of my pals are all having late nites lol.

so if this is a problem, then it's a ps3 specific problem because live is having it....and large i mite add! i've chopped my friends list to the mid 30ish...and over half are all on gta.

[gamesR4fun]

psn is fine just gta4 servers

funny thing is they were working fine last night talk about insane DM freaking nutz with just 8 guys lol

Hope they get it back up tonight!

[sonarus]

wrong post.

[Blackcanary]

My friend told me that live came down this morning from the mid night launch when every one was playing online but i think they fixed it.

I'm having this problem on my PS3 but it doesn't bother me to much didn't buy the game for online play.

[Timesplitter14]

Well I've been playing online on my PS3 for the last 8 hours. I dunno before that but it's all smooth for me

[Bloodwar]

Look, I've checked the Xbox forums to see how bad the Live issue is. I keep hearing the Sony side say how the forums on Sony's website are lit up with the issue and some of them saying its happening to Live as well, or a software gltich of some sort. I only once on launch night had the third of the first three online matches freeze up on the score board but we could all still talk to each other. I turned off the console and turned it on again, and it wasnt an issue again. I'm not saying that it is not happening to the 360 but what I am saying is that the forums are not saying it.

And there were 150 people on the GTA portion of the forums as of 1-30-08 at 1:20 pm EST US. But they were probably at work browsing any news GTA related, not complaining about GTA on Xbox Live apparently. Just informing everyone what I've noticed. Xbox Live members, please correct me if I am wrong. Link the xbox.com forum where actual Live members are talking about it.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Lots of issues for PS3 owners today with GTA IV. I would think that with a game this huge they would have done more testing.

[Silellak]

"Servers being down" has nothing to do with testing. The servers could quite legitimately be down for repair or simply overloaded. It's hard to stress-test your game without a large multiplayer beta ala CoD4.

As for the freezing issue, well, there are any number of articles to discuss that in, and this isn't one of them. Suffice it to say, you're right in that Rockstar really should've caught such an issue if it exists.

I almost wonder if developers this gen aren't bothering to test every iteration of SKU for each console, because they're so used to writing for a console once and calling it a day.

[Monchichi025]

This is turning into a Nightmare for the PS3! First the Freezing, now This!!!

I'm gonna be so Mad if I can't play online when I get Home from Work!!!! GRRR!!!!!!!

And No, it is not down for maintenence! You really think they would be dumb enough to do Maintenence on the servers today???

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Your right though, they should test everything, and for every situation. A game like this that has the potential of selling 8 million in a day could have used more preparation. Microsoft has learned from this the hard way, with Halo 3 and COD4, so they prepared for it. Sony has no excuse, they should have taken the lessons from Microsoft. There are so many different console SKU's out with different manufacturers, they should have tested them all.

[Silellak]

What does Sony have to do with this?

If the fault lies anywhere, it's with Rockstar.

[Monchichi025]

It's not Sony's fault because they are not the one's who own the server. I blame Rockstar more then do them.

But then again, Sony should have taken control of the servers in the firstplace so things like this wouldn't happen!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Rockstar has released this game on the PS3, which is made by Sony. 50% rockstar 50% Sony = both to blame, and if this is only affecting certain PS3's then the blame falls squarly on Sony's shoulder. If this problem is affecting all PS3 SKU's then it's a coop of blame, that should be sorted out as quickly as possible.

[Wildarmsjecht]

It's a problem thats affecting both 360s and PS3. Rockstar has no idea whats up with it atm, but are trying what they can. Read the cr4pton of news surrounding it that details a call to customer support who knows of the issue and still don't know whats up, but DO know however, it;s not just some PS3s, but also some 360s. Now, whether or not you choose to take that bit of information into consideration next time you post on the matter is up to you. Facts are all over.

About the server issue. It could very well be that R* took the servers down to beef them up. Sony isn't taking control of the servers, they hardly, if ever do so when it's not a first party title or one they've had a major hand in developing or is completely catered to their system. To blame them for that is just nitpicking and just edging towards Fanboyism. Hell, if anything it could be that so many people who purchased the game last week and waited to get online now, and people who camped out, and those who waited till today to pick it up decided to get in on some multiplayer mayhem and Boom, server go crash. It's any number of possiblities, but please present facts.

[Silellak]

"Correct me if I'm wrong"

Okay. You're wrong.

Sony has nothing to do with this. They provided the console. It's up to Rockstar to properly write the game for, and test the game on, that console.

It is not Sony's fault if Rockstar failed to locate an issue that may occur with certain SKUs of the console. It's not like GTA4 was already out, and then Sony released a system that the game is supposed to run on.

That's like saying a PC game only runs on ATI cards, and it's NVidia's fault for not supporting the game, not the game's fault for not supporting NVidia.

If Sony had released an SKU AFTER GTA4 came out and GTA4 had trouble running on it, you MIGHT have a point. But that's not the case.

@Below:

Microsoft RUNS XBox Live. Not Rockstar. THEY alone control ALL of the XBL Servers. So yes, it's their fault when XBL goes down.

However, I was talking about the freezing issue, not the online-being-down. I actually don't know who controls the GTA4 servers for the PS3's version of GTA4. Someone said Sony or Rockstar is going through Gamespy, but I can't speak either way.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It seems to me that When COD4, Halo 3, or high holiday sales make Live go down it's Microsofts fault, but that doesn't apply to Sony. Many PS3 fans (not you Silellak) on this site are quick to comment and judge MS when Live is affected by high traffic or game design, but when the same thing occurs with the PS3 it's "How is it Sony's fault?"

[Porky Pig]

Just give it up,not only has Silellak proven your argument to be wrong,you just continue to display immaturity that is,to be truthful,shameful for any person over 13years of age.

Hit the agree button if you like Pie,hit the disagree button if you don't like Pie.

[Monchichi025]

I was one of the people to blame MS in December when their servers went down.

But now that I think of it, sony is to blame for this as well. Unlike MS, Sony CHOSE not to service online servers for online gaming. This way they did not have to charge for online play.

If this is what is going to happen with Sony's online infrustructure, I'm glad MS charges for Live. I rather pay a small fee for something that is reliable then what is currently happening with the PS Network.
You see, MS was caught with there pants down in December, but were able to go back and fix things so it wouldn't ever happen again.
Sony does not have that luxury as they don't control the servers. This can happen over and over again if the game companys don't step up and Sony wouldn't have anyway of fixing it.....

But let's hope this is only a one shot thing! (Praying!)

[illizit]

I just played with my friend online a few hours ago. It's working for me.

[shadow_hearts]

However no one seems to be purchasing the XBUTT 3 FIX ME version

http://www.game.co.uk/searc...

http://www.game.co.uk/lowdo...

@XBOTS

Rockstar has no FIX for XBUTT 3 FIX ME version which crashes Frequently

http://kotaku.com/385183/ro...

x360 version doesnt even run at fullscreen

http://www.n4g.com/News-140...

not to mention that there are unplayable GLITCHES everywhere with AWSEOME POP INS

http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08...

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Swedish gaming mag Gamereactor said that there are MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the 2 version

http://www.gamereactor.se/r...

Swedish Gamereactor mentioned in their 10/10 review that they were pretty surprised regarding the difference between the PS3 and 360-versions. The PS3-version features better colours, contrast, load times and what looks to be better resolution textures. The game also looks sharper and has a more stable fps.

IGN

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud".

X360 version has FR dips too . more frequent than the PS3 version
"Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing. "

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

EGM ---"PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp "

GAMESRADAR

http://www.gamesradar.com/x...

"Occasional pop-up".........ONLY IN X360 version of GTA4

http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08...

So happy that i own a PS3

GAMESRADAR also confirms that PS3 version is SUPERIOR

"While the PS3 and 360 versions of the game are functionally identical, the PS3's visuals sport noticeably smoother edges, along with a warmer color palette that makes everything look slightly more realistic. If you're looking to compare Accomplishments with your Achievement-hoarding friends, though, forget it - GTA IV ignores these half-assed consolation prizes altogether. PS3 owners also have to put up with a nearly eight-minute installation the first time they start the game, which puts the normally slower Blu-ray load times on par with the Xbox 360 version. (That is, unless it's running on a 360 with no hard drive, which we're told will face much longer loads.)"

http://www.gamesradar.com/p...

It is OVER for XBUTTS and 3 FIX ME

[ravinshield]

when sony fangirls got home from the midnight launch,u had to wait for a 10 min install while i played the game and all that just to lock up ur game and now online is down..what a gay console.haha..WAIT BEYOND

[Blackcanary]

I'll take 10 min Install which which helps with short loading times for the PS3 version other the short loading times on the 360.

[power of Green]

XBL down durring the holliday rush with 4 or 5 online AAA's is going to cause issues and when PS3 fanboys said XBL will have issues thats understandable due to 10 million people trying to play at once same with COD4 map paks but I also warned PS3 owners that PSN has nothing on the traffic of XBL and PSN hasn't even been stressed I was also right about PSN having issues when PS3 fanboys were saying XBL would crash because of GTA 4.

[darkside]

at least it's FREE

[iceice123]

You'd rather have a free trash service over an easy to pay 50$ a year fee? That 50$ gets you top notch service, minimal down time and access to the greatest multiplayer games available on any console.

[grilledgorlupa8]

I rather have $50 worth of herb to go with my GTA IV

[shadow_hearts]

u need to have a working console to play on LIVE

too bad that TRASH BOX doesnt even live for more than 10 hours after playing

[Evil Rant Monkey]

<Then you must work harder grasshoppa)

[Dannagar]

I don't think no amount of preparation could prepare RockStar for todays events. Especially since they have to depend on GameSpy for their server on PS3.

Thus far, I haven't had any problems with the Xbox 360 version. I got online last night for a round and have yet to see the pop-in talked about on the internet.

[The Closing]

"smooth sailing"

That reminds me of that x-men episode where they leave Morph behind.

[Wildarmsjecht]

...Stupid cyclops. Now I feel like watching that complete specific series all over again. Then...maybe the teenage one that WB aired. I admit..i kinda liked it.

[X]

That and beast getting thrown into an electrified fence.

[Dave2001]

This is what you get for buying the POS3 version and now i recommend to all POS3 owners to go and get the 360 version it has less bugs and more importantly the online actually works.

[shadow_hearts]

even ROCKSTAR themselves couldnt find a FIX for XBREAK 3 FIX ME version

http://www.n4g.com/industry...

not to mention the XBUTT 3 FIX me burns down houses

PS3 version of X360 is FAR SUPERIOR to RROD BOX 3 FIX ME version

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thanks to SAMMY

Swedish gaming mag Gamereactor said that there are MAJOR DIFFERENCES between the 2 version

http://www.gamereactor.se/r...
Swedish Gamereactor mentioned in their 10/10 review that they were pretty surprised regarding the difference between the PS3 and 360-versions. The PS3-version features better colours, contrast, load times and what looks to be better resolution textures. The game also looks sharper and has a more stable fps.

IGN

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud".

X360 version has FR dips too . more frequent than the PS3 version
"Past GTA titles have had mild-to-serious framerate issues and technical glitches, because the games were trying to do far more than the PlayStation 2 could handle. While GTA IV is pushing the PS3 and 360 to the limit, it also runs amazingly well. Sure, there are framerate hitches here and there and (particularly on 360) there is some texture pop-in, but it actually runs better than I expected. That a game with great AI, an awesome physics engine and a detailed open world runs so well and with such short load times is a technical marvel. For that, I can forgive framerate issues and some noticeable aliasing. "

http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

EGM ---"PS3 version looks slightly more vibrant and sharp "

GAMESRADAR

http://www.gamesradar.com/x...

"Occasional pop-up".........ONLY IN X360 version of GTA4

http://xs226.xs.to/xs226/08...

So happy that i own a PS3

GAMESRADAR also confirms that PS3 version is SUPERIOR

"While the PS3 and 360 versions of the game are functionally identical, the PS3's visuals sport noticeably smoother edges, along with a warmer color palette that makes everything look slightly more realistic. If you're looking to compare Accomplishments with your Achievement-hoarding friends, though, forget it - GTA IV ignores these half-assed consolation prizes altogether. PS3 owners also have to put up with a nearly eight-minute installation the first time they start the game, which puts the normally slower Blu-ray load times on par with the Xbox 360 version. (That is, unless it's running on a 360 with no hard drive, which we're told will face much longer loads.)"

http://www.gamesradar.com/p...

It is OVER for XBUTTS and 3 FIX ME

[i Shank u]

hey look, nasim said butt

[Snukadaman]

Wait...so your actually defending the xbox version because it has less bugs huh nasim....better watch out before the rest of the droids find out your switching sides they will all explode.

[nightmare452]

I was almost expect shadow_hearts to be here, guess you cant copy paste something in this one....

(just kiding)

[lawman1108]

And Shmee,Nasim and every other name you King of the Douche bags Sony Queen from a third world "country" where you have to poop in the streets slob.

Enjoy what you pay for buddy, I have 2 LIVE accounts and if the PS3's network was not free I would never pay for THAT. Somebody really needs to ban you again from this site,you have more accounts then Switzerland!

[Sean14233]

Works fine on the superior xbox live service!

You want a free online network, you get what you pay for!

[iceice123]

Totally worth 50$ a year to play true next gen AAA games. That list now includes GTA4 playing flawlessly on our above and b3yond PSN Xbox live service. For the real GTA4 experience, online or off, you have to go with the Xbox 360 version.

[Blackcanary]

Dude do some research XBOX live is having problems to damn stupid fanfing boi

[Hugh Hefner]

Xbox Live IS NOT having any problems with the online portion of GTA IV. It is, however, having freezing issues just like the PS3 version.

[Snukadaman]

its starting to look like a clusterfuk...so much bad news for the ps3 all around....expect shadow hearts to raise his shield again

[jackdoe]

Hm. Interesting. Has anyone been able to connect to the PS3 multiplayer yet? If not, Rockstar needs to make a statement.

[The Closing]

I played last night, and about 15 minutes ago.

[jackdoe]

Really? Strange. Maybe something to do with network settings then. Anyway, this isn't the first time that a big retail game had online issues; remember CoD 4? Unplayable until the ver. 1.1 patch.

[d3l33t]

ya man, i played about 2 hours last night. im already level 2 :)

[pp]

sony's online can't take it may be because 100 ps3 fan boys tried to long in and there service couldn't handle it under the stress.i'm glad i've got xbox live where millions log in to live

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Your wrong, your numbers are a bit off. It was like 102, don't be trying to discredit those other 2.

[dork0783]

DUDE THIS GAME REALY REALY REALY ROCKS ON XBOX LIVE!I LOVE IT LOL BEST EXPERIENCE ONLINE EVER ONLY ON XBOX LIVE=)

[dork0783]

about the CAPS

[etownone]

This is why LIVE is better. You get what you pay for kiddies.

360 GTA4 - AA, 720p, LIVE, DLC,

ps3 GTA4 - no AA, 630p, no online at this time, reports of problems installing onto HDD,

ITs sweet irony that ALL sonyfans jumped at the chance to claim PS3 GTA4 is "superior" because of a couple of reviews claimed slight edge. But now that the facts are out and it shows the ps3 was dumbed down just to try to get it on par with the 360 version.
it shouldn't be no surprise to anyone the 360 version is in FACT the better version.

[power091999]

No AA on the PS3 version?

I thought it was the 360 with no AA?

I must have missed something there.

Thanks for the info.

[Noodlecup]

maybe you should get a life and stop being such a fanboy, is your life that meaningless? The PS3 version apparently has better antialiasing.

You get what you pay for? how come playing on my PC is better than xbox live and it's free? I bet if MS charged you for air you'd subscribe and tell us how it's better than free air :/

[jackdoe]

Lol. There is virtually no AA for EITHER versions. Check out the comparison vids if you don't belive me. Sigh. Idiot fanboy.

[jkoz]

Bubbles, sir. I own both systems and find it completely asinine that Xbox Live has to be paid for while PS3, Wii and PC are all free. And the PS3 is the one with the AA as stated by several reviewers, which is why the 360 version has some sharper (jaggy) edges. Anyway, I'll be buying the PS3 version over the 360 I believe.

[aiphanes]

And it has not been proving yet that the PS3 version is 640p....they are not saying 640p instead of 630p.......its keeps going up..

The freezing issue was fixed by deleting GTA4 game data and reinstalling....

The online is still down...but will be back up soon.

[Wildarmsjecht]

It amazes me as to how well people just don't follow any sort of news and facts and will instead make bold assumptions that only makes an @ss out of themselves. Etownhoe, read this:

"Earlier today we broke the news that some Grand Theft Auto IV gamers were having problems with the game on both the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360."

And this:

"He did ask me to make sure that my harddrive wasn't full and that I had the latest firmware update, but confessed that that really isn't what's causing most of the problem. He also said that the Xbox 360 is having the "exact same problem," which has further stumped their tech folks."

This is from a Customer Support rep at R*. It's a problem. It's affecting both ssytems. Stop trolling, and for the love of all that is IRONIC, have your net crash.

[Silellak]

Regarding AA:

What I've heard is that the 360 has 2xAA (which is helps it look better than a PS2 game, but still isn't great) while the PS3 has no official AA but runs at a lower res, which is combined with upscaling and a certain technique of blurring to remove more jaggies.

I don't know the technical details, because I'm stupid, but Beyond 3D has been covering it:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

[etownone]

@ Noodlecup - when you compare a PC to a 360, yes you do get what you pay for.

@ jackdoe - The latest tests by Quaz51 at Beyond3D have revealed that the PS3 version HAS NO AA! Compared to 2xMSAA for the XB360 version.

and fanboys are the rabid sonyfans that put hundreds of comments yesterday when some reviews were saying that the ps3 has a slight edge. thats why i say "sweet irony" that the FACTS state the ps3 had to get dumbed down to try to look good.

so many sonyfans thinking this is were the tides turn, this is just the beginning and a bunch of nonsense like that. now all sonyfans can just shutup about having the so called "superior" version... not this time.

[jkoz]

Why don't you read? This is a completely DIFFERENT issue than the systems freezing, which yes we both know through the other post that both systems are affected, but right now the PS3's online portion is ALSO experiencing difficulties.

[Xiru]

PS3 version looks better. I have both and tested it on the same tv. As far as online, I just got my PS3 version today but I played online with my 360 version for 7 hours last night. It didn't work flawlessly but was good. Both my brother and I got disconnected every 3 out of 5 matches when playing cops and crooks. So while at least live is working for the most part, it isn't as great as you say.

As of right now, the PS3 version is SUPERIOR(The online is having a few hiccups, but will be fixed soon). This is confirmed by multiple sources and I myself can attest to it because I have both versions. Just because the 360 has 720p doesn't mean it looks better. A lot of other factors go into the visuals. Such as AA.

[MasterChief2829]

@power091999, It's impossible for any 360 game to ever have no AA because the 360 has automatic, non graphical suffering, 4x AA in the graphics chip, combined with the games AA.

[solar]

i noticed that when i started my copy today.

[Hellsvacancy]

when the gtaiv online multi goes down we can play single player when the 360 get RROD u got nothin 2 play with but your BALLS!!!!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

At least our balls work and don't freez...................e when we try to play with them.

[kewlkat007]

of Sony's Servers?

Plus is it going to be like this for every major games?

Who's really running the PSN?

I really don't get Sony's architecture...

[BenzMoney]

From what I understand, Sony only provides the 'common link' for developers to tie the online portion of their game to (unless the game is first party - then they provide everything). Third-party developers are solely responsible for the setup and maintenance of their own servers (and any and all costs associated with that).

Essentially what Sony is doing is passing the cost of running an online network over to the developers, hence the service being free for the users.

There's advantages and disadvantages to this, of course. Advantages being that the service is free and developers have 'unlimited' freedom to do what they want with their own servers, amongst others. The disadvantage, however, is that it costs developers money so they are generally going to try to find the cheapest way to run the online portion of their game (whether that is leasing servers from Gamespy, for instance, or owning your own). Reliability, and the benefits of having a homogenous service that 'plays nice' across all games (no matter who makes them), etc, are also issues.

[kewlkat007]

See since all developers are not made "Equal" I will not be expecting some of their games to run smooth as butter like XBL infrastructure.

There are many factors involving money and maintenance and sh^t. to have some 3rd-party run sh^t themselves, your gonna see a drop in quality between all them games and whoever is supporting it. With developers COST, they must be happy as a Mofo, they can put their games on XBL without much hassle.

I tried playing MK2 on PSN and man that was sh^tty and Glitchy. The menu is horrible. Looking at Ultimate on XBL, a big difference. I have both.

"Reliability, and the benefits of having a homogenous service that 'plays nice' across all games (no matter who makes them), etc,"

I can see why PSN is free and XBL is a paid service. Really I don't mind paying. I'm waiting for more Online games on the PS3 front tho. Anyhow good luck to those with GTA4 on PS3.

[aiphanes]

Xbox live is a P2P architecture...

Most of the online games on the PS3 use dedicated servers....not the case for xbox live...you are using a P2P connection to other xbox live users to play games...and you are paying $50 a year to do that.

The PSN service is free...and most games..99 percent use dedictated servers online...that is why Resistance Fall of man support 40 users...and Resistance 2 will support 60 users...Warhawk support 32 players with no lag or issues.

GTA4 online on the PS3 will be smooth as Jessica Alba's boooty...when it comes back up...because it is using dedictated servers.

[Jon Cage]

You said it "when it comes back up" but since it's a free network you can't get too upset when it goes down.

And the only reason I'm replying to this post is so that I can show that Jessica is not all that smooth. Looks kinda dirty to me.

[wind_dragon]

If i'm not mistaken. Developers can't afford to produce, run, and maintain their own servers. They're too freaking poor. Its the Publishers that are responsible for the servers as they handle most everything that supports the game the promote. And they have money.^o^

[Ariexv]

ummm WRONG only Warhawk and resistance use dedicated servers, all the rest use P2p. P2p however still needs a network to run from and thats what is down on the Ps3 version.

[Don Ahid]

Y GET AN X BOX 3 SH*TTY IT IS AN UGLY CONSOLE DAT ALWAYS BREAKSDOWN AND BURNS DOWN HOUSES

[Alpha_Gamer]

I look forward to trying out the online a bit when I get off work. Everybody on the xbox forums if very happy.
Don`t worry ps3 fans your "superior" copy will be squared away while we are gaming :)

[Albie360]

Whoohooo!!!!!!!!!!!!1
This is music to my ears when you gaystation maggots take it again and again from behind. Try some KY-Gel it helps you bunch of losers!

[EZCheez]

"Could not connect to server. You need to be signed into the PSN to play"

I've gotten the error they are showing too.

I get this even though I am signed into PSN. If it was probably any other game, I might start pulling hair, but there's so much to do!

[Silellak]

It actually angers me that both GTA4's SP and MP kick so much ass. How am I supposed to decide between them!?

Damn you, Rockstar!!

[NIN64]

Doesn't bother me. I could care less about the online multiplayer. . .

[Bombomb]

begin...

Hahaha

[Angelitos]

uh, etownone,

640p not proven
PS3 has better AA
PS3 will also have exclusive DLC
And the problems you said will be fixed in the future with an update.

You Lose.

[Ariexv]

Try again

http://www.ripten.com/2008/...

Ps3 version is 640p and has ZERO AA, meanwhile 360 version is 720p and has 2x MSAA

[juuken]

Ariexv, there is no such thing as 640p.

[Spike47]

PS3 version is better slightly in quality.

These problems will be solved very quickly. besides the xbox360 is having problems too.

[Salta_nelas]

Run fine when i tried it.

[meepmoopmeep]

my friend who works at EB said there wasn't a single person that called or came in regarding any freezing issues all day.

[DiLeCtioN]

i played online for a few minutes but i must say any mode you play (single player or online) you're definitely gonna have fun and about the downtime am not really bothered yet cus i want to get use to the game again. so screw ur shi^ people n enjoy the game lol

[achira]

who posts this bs ? god, come on, a blogger, lol. have xbots nothing better to do ? the online is working, like in any game. give it up xbots! go play gta4 instead, its a nice game, at least on the ps3.

[Mc187]

Here in GA! I have had none of these problems on my Online working as well.
Sweet

[SPITTIN MY WRITTEN]

What up pay for. you pay nothing so you get to play nothing. ps3 has a long way to go to catch up with 360's online service

[Blackcanary]

if do some research you will find out that 360 is having the same problem with online and like someone stated when it comes to the frezzing problem all you have to do is delete the save data and start again.

[Xiru]

I get disconnected a lot playing on Live and other people who were in my rooms had the same issues. Live works good but still has issues. This game is huge, and for it to be perfect on launch would take a miracle.

[whoelse]

They are probably improving the servers. Should be fine by the time mine arrives sometime in may :(

[Blackcanary]

I got my game at the 8am opening at Game be playing it all day so fare its playing now niko is in the car listening to WKTT the radio station you know We Know The Truth its giveing me jokes lol love the radio station lol.

I havn't had the frezzeing problem O and PS3 is getting Downloaded content to so you can stop saying the 360 version is better because of Downloading content which isn't even coming out tell next year.

[ActionBastard]

I've been too busy with single player to notice. Oh well. It'll be up...and still be free.

[acdata]

so let me correct my last comment
what a superior ps3 version run at 630 p +pop up + 4GIG installation + with out Achievement + no rumble for six axis ( 9 million ps3 user doesn't have rumble ) + FREEZING issue + lack of DLC + no xboxlive+ no crappy psn atm +bugs + u cant run game because u cant install on hdd+no AA+run at non hd resolution & doesn't have native 720P
so CELL(tm) your PlayStation630p and buy xbox360
and enjoy game in true HD visual

[strotee]

get an Xbox that goes down more often than a Liberty City hooker.. your choice.

[Blackcanary]

I'm Playing my Game in 1080p and it looks fantastic thats true HD second the installing the game on to the HDD speads up loading time so please know what ur talking about something u'll have to live with outand put up with slow loading times 3rd like i stated before the 360 version having the same online problem do some research instead of stating lies.
O and also PS3 will have downloaded content as well. So sorry to burst ur bubble can you please stop with the hateing and the fanboy crap.

Open Zone is that way ===>>

[Blackcanary]

O one othe thing when it comes to the frezzing delete the Install.
Please stop talking stupidness.

If you go to SaveDataU on the PS3 delete the install. reinstall it and you wont have any problems damn and i get someone desagreeing with me go figure.

[jwatt]

I've been playing the game since last night with no problems what so ever besides this online issue but I've been playing the single player anyways. I also have my rumble contoller and it's bug free.

I'm not playing dlc but correct me if I'm wrong your not playing with dlc right now either.

[whoelse]

Its the 360 version which have had the most reported graphics issues.

[Xiru]

Wow, you really tried to make it sound like the PS3 version is crap. Whats the point when all reviewers say the PS3 version is better? Are we supposed to believe you over them? I've seen both versions for myself on my same TV. PS3 looks better. To each his own, but i'm sticking with my PS3. The fact that my Elite could break at any moment has me bummed out.

[Ali_The_Brit]

PS3 is still superior, this has been proven by IGN and gametrailers, and id still rather have a bit of a hickup the first day or so, than pay for my online. thank you very much and rofl at xbox having the crap tv

[4cough]

So the ps3 Version isn't even running in HD and now its online sucks, next thing the custom sound tracks wont be working...............Oh wait.

[Blackcanary]

I haven't had any frezzing problems playing mine in 1080p.
People are so dumn stop with the fanboi crap.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Yes, all these reports from all these sites saying the PS3 online does not work and the fact that most people are having freezing problems on the PS3 version it is all just fanboi garbage.

Enjoy your 630p sub HD upscaled to 1080p. (in all fairness this really isn't that bad since AAA titles like COD4 is 640p and looks gorgeous) but for the power house console running at 630p is kinda funny.

[Blackcanary]

At dumnass crab when i said stop with the fan boi crap i was talking about the frezzeing.

[Figboy]

when i tried to give multi-player a try to see if it was any good (to my surprise, it IS; i'm not a big online gamer, and i get GTA games for the single player story).

i simply retried it.

it worked the second time.

personally, i think it may have been server overload.

it almost seems like the very same media that has been blasting the Playstation 3 since E3 2006, and Sony announced that $500/$600 price tag for the PS3, are trying to relight the torch, and blow out of proportion every issue that arises with the PS3 version of the game.

the kinks will get worked out eventually, and the servers will stabilize. it's day one, and there are, i'm sure, quite literally MILLIONS of gamers trying to log on and play GTAIV online.

it's a massive undertaking.

i'm connected to the net wirelessly on my PS3, and i played the online portion for at least 30 minutes and had no lag or any other server trouble (i stopped playing after the half hour, because i needed to go to sleep; had to be up around 6:30am to pick my mom up for her doctor's appointment, which was quite painful, as i didn't get to sleep until 3am. damn GTAIV...).

i advise patience. these things will work themselves out eventually. i know us PS3 owners aren't used to an unstable network. lol /sarcasm.

[Spydr07]

Oddly enough, the only game I've ever played on PSN that had lag was Tekken. Everything else has ran great.

[aiphanes]

The reason is because it is using P2P connections...there are no dedicated servers for Tekken 5 online.

There are dedicated servers for GTA4...and all other good PS3 online games....how do you think warhawk plays so good with 32 players and no lag????? This is not even possible on the Xbox 360.....wait until this fall then Resistance 2 comes out and it has 60 players...and 8 way online co-op! Try this is gears of war 2...not even possible....not even possible on Xboxlive....heck is PS HOME will have over 64 players in a room at any given time....

And warhawk is so smooth now after the last update...no lag...and the textures are so tight looking!

[Ariexv]

WRONG AGAIN, ONLY Warhawk and Resistance run off dedicated servers, NOTHING ELSE does. Just like only Frontlines runs on Dedicated on XBL. Every other game out on either system is P2p networking..... but they still need a network to run.

[onyxbox]

the ps3 version runs smoother and looks better... get over it... you have a better online service, Achievements and DLC to come.

as for the freezing... I bet more 360's have gone 'poof' and RROD'd since the GTA4 launch than PS3's that needed a reboot... thing is: RROD is so common these days that it's not even newsworthy... it's the norm.

edit: sorry about the rant.

[Xiru]

The guy who was streaming GTA4 before its release on the Internet had his 360 RRoD on him live for everyone to see. You are right though. It happens so much, that it is no longer newsworthy.

[TheMART]

Nice huh a free network, you get what you pay for!

[Blackcanary]

like i said before do some research because the 360 has had the same problems and when it comes to the frezzeing this is what Rockstar said.

"With anecdotal evidence from internet forums suggesting that Grand Theft Auto IV might be suffering from intermittent crashes on both launch platforms, Rockstar have initially offered advice for PS3 players.

Forumites have reported crashes and freezes following the game's intro-sequence, and the publisher say that if this happens you should delete your game data and reinstall GTA IV."

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Blackcanary fishhead stop trying to bring the 360 into this.

The 360 isn't having the problems the POS3 is.

[Spydr07]

Question: Is the PSN network down, or is it just for that game? Slight difference between a network crashing (see XBL), and servers being down.

A little story...
A single mom goes to work and leaves the care of her child to his uncle. While she's at work, the uncle molests the child. Is the mother to blame for leaving the -responsibility- of the child in the care of another? Nope.

The point is, when you leave the responsibility up to another, it's impossible to accurately predict the stupidity of another every time. Sony can't be blamed every time someone screws up their online service.

The fact is, these guys are PAID professionals who are paid more than 90% of the people who frequent this site. It should be their job to put the effort into making an enjoyable online experience if said experience is in the game. If they don't feel the need, don't include online play into the game. There are great games without it (360 fans, can you say Bioshock?). I'd figure with their six figure salaries, the devs should put the effort into making it more enjoyable.

[3sexty rulzzz]

first you have to install the game to your hdd before you can get the chance to even play. next, the game might freeze on you. granted, if that doesn't happen online server is down. damn that bout two hrs before you can even play your game with you friends. it has to suck to have friends on psn.

if all else fail and it has, you can play the single campaign. freeze/wait/wait/wait/stall/ and every other word in the dictionary that is sysnonymus with waiting.

IT DOES FEEL GOOD TO PAY $50 FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR WORRY FREE!!! THAT NOTHING

[Baka-akaB]

What part of freezes are the same on both doesnt enter your thick skull ?
Pay 100 if you live wont change that its a random thing according to news , and that both online systems got issues .

On that note anyway , lbeit its their rights and choices , wtf is everyrone doing online this early , with such a great solo mode ?

[PSMonster21]

I'd just like to have it let known that I got this game six hours ago for the ps3, and it has been running great for me. I started the story mode. Ran around a bit, got a wanted rating, played a few missions. Then i decided to go online and i had no problem at all. It worked flawlessly. Maybe my connection is just good...idk. I do know that these problems are being blown out of proportion and that the freezing is happening on BOTH consoles. The online idk. Fanboys, get a life. I'm gonna go back to playing gta4. I suggest you go do the same. Your not wanted here.

[Baka-akaB]

I feel the only reason , online issues aside , why we are discussing the freezes is because of the amount of people buying it and expecting the game ...

You're fricking kidding yourselves guys , you can ask any store as well , every games of the market crashes . You're just not going to notice or care on a 100k selling game , unless its a really big issue .

So far all we've seen are blogs and news outlet going crazy over it like rabid sharks .. they've been trying to feed us this whole anything newsworthy and relevant about gta ... running amok with every fricking hour a new 360/ps3 comparison .

Do we even know how many people are affected by freezes ? Wich %? Why did they decide its 60gb ps3 when even more arent affected ? Looking at the comments alone on ng4 , we seen like what ?a handful of posters , with a few probable liars with a pro ps3 or 360 agenda ...

[Baka-akaB]

@GiantEnemyCrab

Of course they do , freezes while so far rare and blown out of proportions are there on both consoles ... (while rrod isnt btw :p)

[lawman1108]

"The man told me that the problem is apparently only effecting the 60 GB version of the Playstation 3, but that it didn't matter than my particular console was a launch console (Yes, I told a little white lie and said my copy was locking up.) He said the problem is not across the board for the 60GB PS3s but rather only impacts some, so their tech folks are working around the clock to try and figure out what is causing the issue."

NOTE NOT ONE MENTION of the 360
"wawawa"

[juuken]

lawman1108, it's not the system. I don't care how much you want to spin this as being a PS3 issue, it's not the system. It's defective copies of the game.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/ind...

It has NOTHING to do with the system at all.

[PSMonster21]

Can't play the game cause you waiting on microsoft to ship back your console. Get a life seriously. By the way just finished the 6th mission. WOOO!!!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I don't know...

Rockstar had to use their own servers for this. That or they could be using Gamespy. Personally, I hate Gamespy. It does NOT help with Crysis's online...

[599 US Dollars]

lol PS3 version is down? LOL PSN SUUUUCKS we already knew this. Live is running GREAT. THIS GAME PWNZ!!!!!!!!!

[HungPHAT]

well worth it I own both consoles and love them both pretty equal but until home come out , hands down LIVE rules right now , so will see . For as of now I use my PS3 for exclusive games only & everything else on Xbox 360. but I'm hooked on MGO beta , motorstorm & warhawk

[Guitarded]

Time to join forces to defend the mess that is the PS3 and PSN. 640p? No online for how many, for how long? Wait just a little longer for the full game. You should be used to it by now.

[Blakzhuk]

I just got home and went on Xbox Live to play and everything is up. Got in a game right away.

[BenzMoney]

Xbox Live was never down. PSN was down.

[paracardium]

look @ all the xbots spewing rumors and garbage again.. game is superior to the 360 and I'm enjoying single player atm so I can kick some ass when the servers come back up.
No big deal.

[spike]

Not superior. 360 has no online problems, DLC comming soon. If you care about looks get the PS3 version. If you want the whole GTA 4 game get the 360 one. Its awesome.

[Ariexv]

http://www.ripten.com/2008/...

FIRST PS3 VERSION DOESN'T EVEN RUN IN HD, IT HAS NO AA AND NOW IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ONLINE.

[Rammstien_DuHast]

wtf u talking about game does not run in HD if u knew how to read it says 720p 1080i and 1080p so u are a putz and don't know anything abouty gaming u Xbot

[Bon Scott]

to buy myself a copy of GTA4(360).

Now,when I walked in,they sent me to the counter where they had both console versions of the game.
To my astonishment,there were piles and piles of PS3 the versions,
I'm talking box loads people,like 400 copies minimal....no exaggeration.
And the 360 version was SOLD OUT since 2:00 pm that day.
You can call them if you doubt my honesty.

I just hope you PS3 enthusiasts get out there and support your console
so the games industry can keep competitive,which is best for ALL of us real gamers.

I'm sure Sony will solve the online problem rather quickly,
for this is important to their online users.

Enjoy this masterpiece,everyone.

I wish I could right now................dammit!

[Montrealien]

I am not surpised at all, the 360 version is selling at about 3-1 at my store, 142 360 vs 46 PS3 as of this minute.

[Rammstien_DuHast]

had this same problem yesterday when i bought the game yesterday then tried it again and hour ago did not work then tried it again really quick and worked played online for about half hour worked fine since oh yeah my game froze only one time so far

[PSWarlord]

Yeah i noticed this. It was down till about 12.00 (Midday), but its all up and running now...Well at least it is on mine...PS3 BTW!!!Also i swear i saw johnny (i think thats his name from gta3) walking near jacobs house when i turned around he was gone lol....wanted to waste him!!!Loving my gta experience at the moment, but the only thing it lacks abit in, is the graphics on both systems but guess thats to do with the magnitude of the game!!!

Do you reckon we have seen the full power of these consoles or we gonna see the consoles going super saiyen and giving us something really special!!!!...Cant wait for MGS!!!That might just be ps3's special something!!!