Sierra Spring Break 08: PS3 exclusivity would have allowed double the amount of objects on-screen, says Ghostbusters dev

Speaking to videogaming247 at the Sierra Spring Break 08 in Mallorca last week, Terminal Reality president Mark Randel admitted that Ghostbusters on PS3 has been held back by the fact will also release on 360, saying that the game would have double the amount of objects on screen if it had been PS3-only.

[PirateThom]

Flamesuits at the ready.

[HighDefinition]

Problems w/ the PS3 are a things of the PAST.
Problems w/ the 360 are a things of the FUTURE.

The 360 is for where games are at.
The PS3 is for where games are going.

The 360 is becoming the new Dreamcast, not to say that`s bad....I still have a DC and play it every once and a while.

But DC stuck w/ CDs(1GB), The PS2 went w/ DVD (7GB, pretty sure, correct me if I`m wrong)

And that`s what happened to the DC, it couldn`t keep up. For instance..

-SOTC
-GOW1/2

wouldn`t have been possible on the DC.

[cyclindk]

"Problems w/ the PS3 are a things of the PAST.
Problems w/ the 360 are a things of the FUTURE."

I agreed with you, but one correction: there was never a problem with the PS3, just problems developers had/still have with the PS3. They want easy-peesy japaneesy for everything, even if it means forfeiting a potentially better product in the process.

[callahan09]

You're right about everything but the name of the 1GB Dreamcast discs... they were called GD-ROMs, not CDs. The DVD-9s that the 360 uses do indeed only have a usable capacity of about 7 GB, due to a large amount of space allocated to some kinda crap I don't understand but read about on wikipedia and assume is not fabrication.

[HighDefinition]

Thanks, I always forget the name of those Discs.

[sonarus]

Wow i certainly didn't expect this from a 3rd party dev.

Well what can i say. PS3 version better not be a crappy port

Edit: Apparently they are leading on ps3 because sony pictures owns Ghostbusters. Finally sony is using some other studios to help themselves.

Its all good though...i mean its just ghost busters so maybe the ps3 version will run better big deal not like its a big open world game where russians steal cars and stuff.

Due to the 360 install base, things are better off for them but if ps3 had the install base advantage and they chose to lead on the ps3, you would start to see crappy 360 ports

[Jack Meahoffer]

Then the PS3 will be holding back the 720. Its what happens when all the systems aren't lined up coming out at the same time. Same thing with PS2 holding back the original Xbox due to its market share.

Not really something for the Sony fans to beat the chest about but I'm sure they will.

360 will eat a nice chunk of Playstation market share this generation then it'll be off to the next generation ahead again with better specs.

[thewhoopimen]

Jack, after this generation's fiasco with hardware issues and useless HD-DVD drives, I doubt Microsoft will have another chance at stealing Sony's market share. If Microsoft does decide to jump the gun again and release the 720 early, I believe they will piss off their own fanbase more than getting a headstart on Sony. Even now, the 360 could still be considered in its early years. I say they'd be lucky if they maintained the status quo. Plus I have yet to see the xbox360 meet total xbox numbers (not assuming it won't).

[damrightfresh]

Its true..Just like how GTAIV would of been better if its on the PS3..Rockstar even said the next GTA game will probaly be only for the PS3 because its really really going to be a big game..

[Sev]

I was waiting for someone to say this...

"All the 360 has to do is hang in there for 2 more years till 720 comes out..."

Better specs = More expensive. That is what initially held the PS3 back. Especially in USA. US is the where the 360 sells the best. With America's economy going down the sh!tter, what do you think will sell more in 2 years?
The PS3 which offers Blu-Ray, and will have a huge library of games at this point, along with developers finally coming close to tapping its full power... Also PS3 should be at a sub $300 price tag at that point.
Or...
The new Xbox, with only a launch library, and a huge price tag?
I dont think so. Not with the way US economy is.

I am not sure the age of most of you, but I am old enough to fully understand the problems with the economy, with gas prices about to hit close to $4 a gallon, property values plummeting, and no plan to get middle class families out of this rut.
Things are ONLY going to get WORSE.

That means people are going to go with the cheaper console. This is a part of the Wii's success (I said only part, casuals eat the thing up).
This will be the same case when the new XBOX drops.

The PS3 will be much much much more appealing at that point in time, and the new XBOX, will have to again prove itself its library, and prove its worth with its much higher than PS3 pricetag.
Couple that with $50 a year, and all the expensive accessories, people will not want to pay...

How can anyone disagree with me?

[harrisk954]

We are going to start hearing this more and more. And it is not going to be some Sony fanboy ranting about how he thinks that the PS3 version of one multiplatform game or another was reduced in size due to the lack of space on DVD... We are going to be hearing it more and more from the developers themselves who are beginning to realize the benefits of blu-ray, not so much for HD content, but for the amount of space on the media. This is also why HD-DVD was ultimately doomed to failure -- although the picture and sound quality was HD, the space limitations could never have kept up with the necessities of constantly growing software. MS can delude itself all it wants about the future being downloadable content, but how many people will be able to afford a hard drive big enough to hold all of the HD content that is coming. Too bad for PS3 owners on those multiplatform games (like this one) which will need to be, in effect, circumsized to allow it to work on the 360. Either that, or 360 games will need to be smaller versions of theses games, which MS will never let happen.

[Jack Meahoffer]

What if MS continued to support the 360 and the new 720 was fully backward compatible?

People upgrading to the new unit could play the next gen games but still full access to 360 games and their live account.

I really believe MS will not and cannot repeat the drop of the original xbox. I think they'll try hard to go against that. Look at a lot of these planned trilogy games like Mass Effect and Too Human supposedly all of those games will be on 360. That’s years and years in the future.

They could start the next generation ahead of Sony and still support the 360. Add in motion controls to combat the Wii and you're on to more market share. All in all more competition it’s all better for gamers and prices (bad economy). Seems like all you Sony fans pray for a Sony monopoly of something...

[scheme_a]

>developers themselves who are beginning to realize the benefits of
>blu-ray, not so much for HD content, but for the amount of space on
>the media

I think the dev saying "more objects on screen" isn't so much about Blu-ray but more to do with Cell Processor being able to calculate more objects on screen, because blu-ray won't calculate the physics. It's definitely true, though, considering what R* said.

But the fact that Sony had say on what console they should use as lead somewhat damages his credibility. I would love him to be true but I'd still take it with a grain of salt.

[sonarus]

Saying ps3 is holding back xbox 720 is a joke. That is like saying ps2 is holding back Xbox360.

[rawg]

Even if MS included BC to keep their fanbase from revolting, they'd still have a problem convincing game developers to make games for a new platform that has a limited install base. Sony actually has an advantage here because they own or control so many first-party studios. Microsoft's biggest first-party devs, Bioware and Bungie, have left MS so it'll be even more difficult (or expensive) for MS to get developers to create launch titles for their next console.

The reality is that launching a new console is a huge, risky endeavor that requires massive investment, not only to subsidize consoles but to incent developers to take a chance on the new platform. It's not something that can be done profitably every few years. In fact, it only makes sense when it's part of a larger consumer electronics cycle, i.e. CD to DVD, DVD to HD, HD to DD?, etc.

MS had a four year cycle between the original Xbox and the 360 but that's because they came a year late to the last gen and a year early to this gen. I wouldn't expect another Xbox for at least 3 more years, maybe longer.

[gaffyh]

360 games are limited to about 7.3GB I think (maybe a little more), because MS has set the layer break lower than it needs to be (I think to make the 360 unhackable LOL). But PS2 didn't have that limit so those games could be 8.5GB.

Which is really weird that a last gen console can handle a higher capacity than the current gen, but there's always multiple discs.

[Ace Ventura]

You do know the PS3 and Wii weren't released late...right? And that Microsft put the 360 on the market a year ahead... they were criticized and it screwed things up.... there will be no new Xbox in 2 years... when they have BARELY sold 19 million in 2.5 years... and we will not see a Xbox earily this time... if we do... Sony is goign to be ready a year early this time... you can bet your money...

Insomniac has said THERE IS NO REASON for consoles to be put out before 2012... When the PS3 is brand new and Xbox 360 has barely sold any consoles... and selling them slower and slower every year... why rush another console?? Sony will be ready. They CAN'T get a cheap headstart 2 generations in a row. Sony will be ready. Next generation will be fair in time and price and PS4 is going to be ahead from day 1.

PS3 is still goign to be here for a LONGGGG time regardless of what a new Xbox does LOL... It's not like people are goign to be grabbing them off shelves over a low priced PS3... people are still waiting for the PS3 to get cheap... it's 400/500$... Sony and Nintendo aren't scared of Microsft releasing a console with them... they will be the one's to lose. They can't cheat 2 generation in a row.. and if they were that desperate again...you know Sony will be ready. Blu ray is ready.

[Homicide]

Stupid 360 with it's inferior hardware.

[eagle21]

And PS3 is the sole beneficiary of the next gen title. Simple as that. It was never a matter of "if" but "when" all the truth would be revealed. It came mighty quickly if you ask me. MIGHTY QUICK! :)

[Sev]

I guess they werent so arrogant when Sony said "The next gen starts when we say it does."
Looks like its just really starting now.

[thewhoopimen]

Bottom line is this:

The total units of Xbox sold in 4 years was 24-25 million (at the end of May 10, 2006).

MS needs to sell 25 million xbox360 units in 4 years to break their original xbox numbers. They are currently at 19 mill at 2.5 years.
They have 1.5 years to sell 6 million more units... which is doable of course but who knows.

However, even if they meet this goal, they will still be considered a failed console, because they will have failed to increase their initial market share.

Basically, the 360 needs to sell significantly more than 26 million units this console cycle (accounting for population growth of 1.3% per annum). Probably in the 40-50 million for them to even consider a sequel to the 360 since they've been bleeding heavy losses since the first xbox (6.5 years of bleeding money). Otherwise, they should just scrap the whole xbox gaming division period.

[Hububla]

If indeed these speculations are true and microsoft does come out with the 720 in 2 years it would be the dumbest move in microsoft history... worse then vista.. i mean noone but the hardcore 360 fans are gunna rush out to buy a new console that will prolly cost upwards of 700-800$

Plus what will microsoft put in a new console other then all the features that the PS3 already has! like wi-fi, and bluray, memory card slots. Considering no developer has even come close to utilizing the PS3's full power that means no one really knows what its potential really is! By then X-box 720 games prolly wont look much better then PS3 games that are actually using the PS3 to the MAX! like many people have said on here before.. the human eye can only take in so much!

[solidt12]

Sweet. This is going to be good. Dev all praising the PS3 now when in the beginning most of them despised it.

[Pt FeLiX]

"Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures"

[Evildoomnerd]

Though I'm sure I've read an article around here that stated Sony sold the rights of the IP to Universal. Let me see if I can find that.

Edit: Ah, I found it!

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[DevonTheDude535]

SPHE has nothing to do with the gaming division of Sony. Sony own(ed) the rights to the movie not to the IP it-self, Ghostbusters.

[sonarus]

Well it appears the own the ip because they sold the rights to make the game to universal. Part of the deal must have been they use ps3 as lead

[damrightfresh]

Nopw its not anymore..Everyone know that PS3 have the upper advantage this gen..

[Raptors]

"Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures"

^^^^^^^Couldn't have said it any better myself lol Bubbles for you

[Mc Fadge]

Twice as many objects on the PS3 you say? *strokes chin*

Though, I wonder how much of this is him talking and how much of it is Sony's pay check talking :P

Either way we'll see when it comes out, another great game for both systems to look forward too ^______^

[HighDefinition]

:P

[nutjuice]

yeah, 360 owners are just happy once again they get the game not realizing that the system they love is hurting the games' ambitions overall. I'm sure this has happened before with other games, burnout paradise, I'm looking at you.

[Real gamer 4 life]

oh boy everyone get your popcorn ready. basically he is saying that 360 limitation does not allow then to take full advantage of the ps3. But i wonder if other developers had to limit their multiplatform game because of the 360. I wonder if games like grant theft auto assasin creed and many other had to be limited. do other developers feel the same way? this raise i concern to me to tell you the truth. So is it possible that the fanboys were true in saying that the xbox360 is limiting the ps3 in multiplatform games.

[iAmPS3]

The 360 might be limiting the PS3, starts with the DVD9 against Blu-Ray and sums up with the fact that the PS3 has 7 usable cores on its processor, to a developer that has the grip on multicore programing you can see amazing results coming to life.

I don't see how the 360 could run MGS4 and GT5:P with the exact same features and frame rate, if you cut a little bit here and there sure it can, but in terms of raw power, the PS3 is way ahead...

I think that Rockstar wanted to use the 25GB of a Blu-Ray disc and make a game even more impressive, we would have to install 10GB to our Hard Drives probably, but the game would have been twice as amazing as it is now.

But the future is coming... soon more and more will agree with the PS3 power.

[aiphanes]

Both of these will be at least 25GB or 50GB bluray games...if they are exclusive to the PS3...by the time they come out the PS3 userbase will be 25 to 35 million users...

[Silver360]

It has one dual threaded core and and 9 spe's one deactivated one for system functions and the other seven for developers to use to break down data to feed to the cpu. It all still goes through cpu the spe's just do the calculation work so the cpu can do the general purpose game work.

[Sheddi]

Ive always seen the playstations CPU as smart and not raw :P
360 has raw power
PS3 has smart power

(my own opinion)

[DJ]

In fact, there is not main processor in Cell. The SPUs run general purpose code just fine, though run SIMD tasks (lighting, physics, sound, animation, geometry processing, etc) at about 10~30x faster than a G5 core (the PPU).

According to developers like Insomniac and Naughty Dog, developers will be putting about 95% of their tasks on the SPUs by the time the 3rd-gen titles start rolling out, and may eventually eliminate usage of the PPU because L2 Cache is just too unpredictable in terms of performance.

[killer_trap]

I'm really looking forward to the open zone for this............

and I'm positive this will be dined by sierra in the next 24hours.

[Bathyj]

Wow, devs are starting to say out loud what we've all known for ages. Its just a shame devs will only be setting their sites halfway on multiplats.

Once PS3 catches XB's userbase it will make it easier for devs to commit to PS3 exclusives, although those with a real vision like Aquatic Dream and Media Molecule are doing that already.

[HighDefinition]

They couldn`t diss the 360 when it was HOT, they did want to sell their games still. But now, is a different story. It`s beautiful to watch it unfold.

[meepmoopmeep]

i'm just glad sony has so many exclusive IP's old and new. exclusives are the ones that really take advantage of a platforms power. i hope this will be a good game though.

[Bathyj]

Gimped Busters !

Dude I will remember that, you were the first one to say it. That way is a year when its part of our common vernacular I will know where it came from.

I wish someone remembered I was the one who made up Xbots.

[meepmoopmeep]

lol, cool you created xbots?

yeah, unfortunately this game got gimped. i really love the GB franchise too. They could have done amazing stuff if they went exclusive.

i'm so glad that the PS3 is the lead platform for the game. *whew*

[CBaoth]

I thought Al Gore invented the term "xbot", just like he invented the internet.

[felidae]

as i said it before. the 360 holds the devs back.

damn it!

[SUP3R]

I've said the same thing numerous times on this site, but of course it just ignored because it's the truth.
Here we have a developer who openly admits the 360 is causing multi-platform limitations, but of course it'll be discredited. Not because of the obvious hardware differences he mentiones, it's because he said the IP is owned by Sony so he has to show favor towards them.

[LiquifiedArt]

Just like Heavnly Sword,Lair, Ratchet etc... all the PS3 exclusives look astonishing and have incredible # of enemies and physics.

[MailMan]

"The Xbox 360 is last-gen hardware with more limitations than an Escort"-Everyone.

Jump OUT and Play B3YOND

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 1]

...Sir Ken Kutaragi!!! ;-D

(For yet Another SUPERIOR Console) ;)

[eagle21]

Caught up and stunned. :)

[Pain]

thank u Retards.

[Qbanboi]

No comment.

[Qbanboi]

TO #3.

No more than the Pack check of Microsoft to RockStar for GTA4. Man, i tell you, that check didn't only speak, it also sunk.

Edit: Damn, i dont know that's wrong with this. I just can't click right.

[SL1M DADDY]

Yeah, that's nothing new to me. R&C had so much going on the screen at one time it got pretty insane. As long as you have a developer that knows the Cell, you will see some pretty amazing stuff.

[killer_trap]

actually if you need any evidence on ho many things the ps3 can move on screen just check heavenly sword. those battles against 700 soldiers were insane.

[bumnut]

Viking, Dead Rising, kameo & flat out.

all of these games had loads of objects on screen.

EDIT- the guy who disagreed has obviously never played any of the above games

EDIT (again) - i own both consoles so i am speaking from experience.

[SL1M DADDY]

Very true. I loved how epic they felt and how as the closer you got to them they would branch out into their own separate movements and attack as they did. Very good example!

[jams_shop]

"Problems w/ the 360 are a things of the FUTURE."
you mean "PRESENT"

[HighDefinition]

someone said something hilarious last night about it being Future proof.....they said....

It`s not even PRESENT PROOF!

LoL forever.

[PimpHandHappy]

we already know the 360 is holding back this gen of games. Im just happy Sony has the most exclusives in gaming.

Maybe the Wii has more Mario games but they dont have any next-gen titles

[HighDefinition]

It is to some.

edit(your comment below)

I agree. bubble.

[iAmPS3]

Well BOTS, this is it... no more candy for you.
From now on it's all downhill... RROD, payed online, rabid players, terrible customer service, expensive acessories, all this will be things of the past.

It's funny how we don't see any BOTS around anymore... they are all creating new accounts and defending the PS3 now. LOL

[timmyrulz]

You dont see "BOTS" as they are too busy playing games rather than been fanboys

[Kleptic]

^^^what planet are you from?...despite all kinds of news like this popping up lately, this place is still crawling with 360 fanatics that simply can't let go...

[PSMonster21]

At timmy, aren't you contradicting yourself seeing as you are the one that is on commenting instead of playing games. I will let you think about that.

[PR0NE]

this story is going to be NOVA hot.... the flames are now are only boiling the water at 100, but i bet it will at least go ten folds this amount, anyway this announcement is interesting, I'd like to see another confirmation on this one before passing my judgment on it

[PimpHandHappy]

fuku MS and fuk ur machine

go make some crappy buggy OS and get the hell out of the hardware biz. You are holding back everyone

this is complete BS

I was looking 4ward to this game and now i know they had to dumb it down because the 360 is still being sold to idiots.

[Kleptic]

MGS4 will help change things in the US, at least for a little while...

[Kaz Hirai]

Are you happy that you are supporting a company who wants to DESTROY the industry with their last-gen FILTH?
Nazisoft- you have RUINED Ghostbusters.
You have RUINED the industry.
You have RUINED Christmas 2007 for your SWINE followers.
You have RUINED the last remaining chance of King Kaz showing any mercy on you!

45 days until Judgment Day, Nazisoft!

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[the greatest]

sony boys give Kaz Hirai
bubbles

[spandexxking]

i always give this guy bubbles! king kaz, the one and only joke account on n4g i really dont have a problem with! everytime i read his comments then look at the avatar! hilarious! i hate ken kutagi that guy pisses me off

[eagle21]

(clears throat) Rule #1: "Woe to the man who steals bubbles from the GREAT KING KAZ"..

Shame on all who participate. :)

[Fishy Fingers]

Fanboys should like this one.

Personally this makes the developer look stupid to me, this shows that they are more concerned with money by going multiplat than realizing their goal and making the best game they could.

[HighDefinition]

Seriously stop. With all the fanboy sh!t.

This is NEWS. Don`t like it, don`t read it, don`t comment on it.

BTW, I agree w/ the bottom part of your comment.

bubble.

[Fishy Fingers]

Excuse me? I did read it, and I did comment on it. This is my opinion, don't like it, don't read it, don't reply to it. But don't be offensive please.

[HighDefinition]

People just say it like their better then them.

Whatever man, it`s all good. Maybe I`m just being a prick.....I do that sometimes. LoL.

BTW, Sorry I didn`t at all intend for it be offensive...Sorry, again if that`s the way you took it. You make good comments, personally I just can`t stand when people bring up "the fanboys".

peace.

[v1c1ous]

but that would cut back on DOUBLE THE SALES

[Skerj]

Ray Parker Jr. must be rolling in his grave!!

[Fishy Fingers]

:)

[Skerj]

It is one of the greatest songs ever made, and one of the greatest music videos of all time. It shows comedic legends showing that they will in fact call the Ghostbusters if a ghost appears, and Ray Parker Jr. is letting you know he's not afraid.

He's not afraid indeed good people, hell he actually showcased some ghost behavior when he slid from under that chick's bed, and from out of the top stair. Ray Parker Jr. for global President!! He also better be in the game and so should that video, or else it will be sad and the ghosts will win.

[Salta_nelas]

Great, another MP game held back on the PS3 due to the 360 hardware.

[Doctor Strange]

I'm a little surprised guy came out and said that openly but this makes me wonder what kind of Ghostbusters could we have got if it was exclusive.

[aiphanes]

This was not the case in the last gen...

Why do it this gen? Just make the game on the PS3 then port it to the Xbox 360...its that easy...or is it not?

I am just glad i have all three systems...but for the past year...i have only been playing the PS3...i grew up playing the PS1 and PS2....growing up meaing in my 20's and 30's i played playstation products....heck i grew up play Atari 2600, intellivision and odysesy 2000........

What the wii could have been if it was HD, and had a usable online service...oh well maybe the wii 2 will do that...but for the end all console its the PS3...it amazes me everyday that it never breaks down....folding sometimes 8 to 10 work units a day.....on just one PS3!!

I think when PS HOME finally comes out....it will draw in the casual gamers from the Wii...and then its all over for the other consoles....this is probably the reason why sony has delayed HOME two times...they want to get it right...they know that a successful PS HOME hinges on getting all the casual gamers onto the PS3.

[Silver360]

If the game is obviously inferior. They would not make their money back on the game much less a profit.

[The Wood]

HOME & LBP respectively

[fresco]

so why don't they just double the objects on the ps3 version?

[v1c1ous]

then he wouldn't be able to make remarks about the 360 is setting them back.

the guy mentions his love for sony twice in the interview, so it's not surprising.

it's sorta how David "gow creator" Jaffe would always sneak in RROD jokes while he was on sony's payroll.

or alternatively, how Dave Newell keeps ripping on ps3 now and then.

[HighDefinition]

In some case, the games have to perform around the same level. By contract. Just like MULTIPLATS have to be on 1 disc on the 360.

[DJ]

They need to keep the two versions as close as possible so that people don't completely abandon one version for the other.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Last gen, the two versions are
often not the same, no Idea why all
gamers have to suffer due to one
consoles limitations.

[timmyrulz]

They might be a few less ghosts but they will get more money, thats what its all about, like the last Gen, if half the games were xbox 1 exclusive we would have seen better games but how can you ignore a potential 1-2 MILLION more sales

[thor]

You won't necessarily get more money from a multi-plat. Just think; Haze is a game that people only care about because it's only on PS3. The publishers made the DECISION to make it exclusive. If we didn't have exclusives, there'd be no point in owning both consoles. PS2/XBox was I think slightly different because there was such a HUGE install base for PS2. I don't think so many games went to the gamecube as well.

[Truplaya]

hmmm, why do they have problem where companies like Rockstar can manage fine? It was always gonna be one to miss anyway

[nutjuice]

Ghostbusters. Miss it. Hah. Better buy Ghostbusters before Gears 2 if you want the coolest 3rd person shooter this year.

[himdeel]

...Rockstar probably had to decided on content first then figure out how much of that original content they could fit the game onto the 1 360 DVDs. With the limits defined they then were able to work the same game out on the PS3.

If they developed the game to max out the blueray disc or developed the PS3 version first then worked to fit what they could into the 360 version you could argue that these two game could NOT be considered the same game. They'd be two distinct games with some of the same characters, places, and events.

The only solution in this case would be to make a 360 version which would be covered on several disc. This would however take away from the overall feel of the game switching disc for cities and add to the cost to make produce the game. They could do it if they wanted to but I think developers prefer to fit everything on one disc if they can. With this Ghostbusters game I just think the developers are a bit more vocal about this issue and rightly so because Sony is partially backing this project indirectly I suppose.

[PimpHandHappy]

dont get me wrong

This is news to ppl that dont post on this site. This is the sort of news that can shake up the sales war and when the holiday season rolls around you can bet this will be a hot topic around gaming people that are buying their 1st "current-gen" system

All the 360 crowd has is XBL now!

There is no more talk of games looking better on the 360! Now the talk is how much better games would be if they were not on the 360!

Sony should buy this game. I know they dont buy exclusives but it would be nice if they did

[tordavis]

Will you dudes get it through you head! The 360 is a year older than the PS3. The technology is considered inferior in comparison. Is this any surprise? And why not release a better PS3 version and a weaker 360 version? Why gimp the PS3 version to make it exactly like the 360? I call BS! Any 360 game that came out on PS2 first looks better. Ninja Gaiden Sigma blows Ninja Gaiden Black away. So why can't the PS3 version of a multiplatform game just blow the 360 version away? I don't get it.

Maybe it's just the fact that the developers are lazy and don't know how to put multiple objects on the screen for the 360. Didn't PSfanboys drop the lazy dev card when PS3 games weren't up to snuff with 360 games? Hmmmmmm....

[achira]

ms pays the devolopers or threatens them, thats the reason.

[cmrbe]

So should they just release two versions one that is significantly superior than the other at the same price?. MP devs no matter what always strive to dev identical versions of their games otherwise one will sell and the other will bomb. Case in point PS3 Maddens 08.FYI. Black and Sigma are on different gens so your point is not valid.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

When a game becomes multiplatform they have to make each version as similar as possible. So with better hardware on the PlayStation 3 things will look different since they handle things differently. If one version is far more superior people will complain that their version sucks. People will just think they don't care about that particular audience.

Froza 2 looks nothing like Gran Turismo 5 this is because it's exclusive. They only have to satisfy one audience allowing them to take full advantage of the hardware. So in conclusion exclusives take advantage of hardware not multiplatform games.

Halo 3 vs Killzone 2.

[Meus Renaissance]

Most of us realise that the PlayStation 3 is potentially capable of alot more in video games and hopefully this will eventually come to be factual by the games that are on the platform. Until now most developers claimed both platforms perform similar, even though at the same time they admit they know little of the PS3's technology so how can they possibly be able to accurately predict its potential if they cant even get the console to do things like frame rate right like on the 360 counterpart?

Regardless of what these comments may be, we need to see these differences between the two and hopefully games that are exclusive to the PS3 will show that. I don't know when that will be, but hopefully by the end of this year, the disparity will be clear enough for even fanboys to admit it.

[Fishy Fingers]

Thats a good point I never really considered. It they know so little about the PS3 how can they possibly quantify it's "power"?

Personally, I'm really interested to see some WarDevil/RTE 1080 (engine), Digi-Guys seem to be working wonders with the system.

[PimpHandHappy]

didnt Jaffe say blueray was a useless thing that Sony should not have added to the PS3?

i thought i remember reading that

That Gabe guy is just a PC gommer

[v1c1ous]

but that was when sony was knee-deep in **** with the ps3 not selling well and getting ripped to shreds by the press.

all developers, like companies, are loyal to one thing: whoever pays their check.

[cyclindk]

I'm not joking when I say this, but I could have sworn that I saw in a video apology of his for not being able to attend some event that he always supported blu ray, maybe it was the opposite. Ya'll know the vid I'm talking about? Maybe he was joking.

[J@D]

It's this a great news... I mean its actually a old one to me... and everyone knows: " The responsible to hold back the devs creativity and they game is Xbox360 and his DVD capacity. " it is cruel isn't but the truth is the truth nuff said'

[PimpHandHappy]

i think a couple 1st year exclusives did show some goodness. Find me a game like Warhawk anywhere. Lag free online madness

and we all know 1st year games are never as good as 2nd and 3rd year games.

[PimpHandHappy]

i like your style

maybe the devs are being lazy and dont even know how to put multiple objects on screen with the 360

thats funny

you do have a point

if your point was to say something soooo stupid it was funny

[Robearboy]

I wonder if we will see the "lazy devs" comments from the xbox 360 fanbase this time, personally to me this interview is a bit nonsensicle, its obvious that some developers prefer the ps3 whilst others prefer the xbox 360, its juts a flame bait article with no substance,

[nutjuice]

he explains why from audio to visual. What else you need a Powerpoint presentation?

[rawd]

Knock knock
Who's there
Another dumbed down multi plat because of the Xbox DVD doorstop
sigh :(

[beans]

Well I sure would like to see these games on PS3 that totally blow 360 graphics out the water! This is nothing more then talk and until Sony has a game that looks two years ahead of any 360 game released at the same time I won't believe any of it! E3's going to be really good and we will finally be able to see which exclusives look the best on which console! I have a feeling both consoles will have games that impress but 360 will come out with a slight edge!

[nutjuice]

Majority of games out today use the Unreal 3 engine. As fresh new engines start to power the games coming out later this year things will start to look different. Heck, each of Sony's studios builds their own engine. Square Enix has a new engine coming. Some tech heavy studios are builing some impressive skills and the real leaps are coming only on PS3.

keep an eye out for Heavy Rain.

[bootsielon]

If PS3 was struggling, I'd understand why, but PS3 is closing the gap every day. At least they should just start every game on PS3, which also improves 360 games... however, they shouldn't be held back. If it's started on PS3, they can optimize it for PS3, and then try to make it run on 360 as good as possible, even with half the objects. That's what moron developers where doing initially with PS3, now they should do the opposite; not to snub 360 users like they did with PS3 users, but just to take advantage of the damned hardware. Lazy developers.

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

Yet another MP game held back of the constraints of the 360

You have a console that doesn't have mandatory HDD and only 10gb of Dvd space! If this is supposed to be "next gen" than PS3 must be the gen after "next gen".

It never ceases to amaze me how many people underrate the PS3. They think because Sony didn't come out guns blazing in the console war that their product was inferior. They were still focused on PS2 dev.

Fact of the matter is, the PS3 has a lot more potential for game dev. than the XBOX360. Dev. are just beginning to understand the architecture of the hardware. Once they refine their techniques the software that will result because of it will blow 360 titles out of the water.

And that punk Gabe Newall from Valve can go F himself. He talks so much trash about PS3 because he doesn't have the balls or the brains to utilize it.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Who is Gabe Newall?, this is
new news to me, no idea who
he is.

[nn]

http://kotaku.com/384317/gh...
why they are not making a ps3 and PC version, and a xbox 360 version separately? As long they are making a Wii and Ps2 version I don't see where is the problem if a downgrade is necessarily for the 360 version.

[THE_JUDGE]

With making it for all those platforms its got to be expensive.

[jtucker78]

God of War 3.... ...anyone?

Sony exclusive. No excuse not to push the Cell.

[THE_JUDGE]

a pretty big number. Thanks for screwing it up MS.

[Gaara_724]

PS3 has been held back by the fact will also release on 360,
and bots say we are holding them back ok then y am i here i dont even like the stupid game

[fenderputty]

with a proton pack and I'm set!

It is good to see that some developers are getting the hang of the PS3 though. The sooner the better. I wonder if they were able to use some of the code that Insomniac was giving out?

Is this a sign that the end of the comparison threads are near?

[Bladestar]

mmm... strange... I was under the impression that "System Memory" is the one responsible for "have allowed double the amount of objects on-screen"... you know... the reason why the game says... "Loading"... in order to show those "objects on screen"?... this has nothing to do with blu-ray... or DVD... I understand if this guy would say, "The game would have more cinematics" because as we recently seem with GTA (7GB)... it seems as if the games can be very large and have many objects moving.... ghostbusters!? are you serious?

Expect another article later about this developers asking for mercy and saying that his comments were taken out of context... the gamer community are not as stupid as most of the anti-xbox 360 fans in this site.... at at least know that disc storage is NOT what draw/holds/show objects on screen... lol... but Memory and Video Card... so if this developer said this he really going to have to explain this... when the xbox 360 is known to have more memory available... what's next? the PS3 have faster internet connection because of blu-ray?

ohh and by the way... this is also the definition of a bad developer... if the PS3 is so great and the xbox 360 is holding it back... why arent they making the game exclusive? make ghostbuster exclusive! (sorry... I find the actually game funny... since it does not sound like a AAA title)... Last time I checked... good developers make the game for specific platforms... COD for the DS is not the same as the xbox 360... COD for the wii is not the same as the PS3... if the console can't handle it.. why don't you make the game that has more objects on the PS3? that's how is done for games that come out on the wii, ps3 and the xbox 360... that how it was done with the PS2 and the orginal xbox... this is a cheap excuse to continue giving PS3 developers crappy ports... I don't see developers making great game for both consoles complaining.... Infinity awards didn't complain about objects... sadly the PS3 fan community are ok.. with getting the cheap ports and crappy games (Ghostbuster lol) as long as the developer drop a bit of anti-xbox 360...

This developer say various things that indicates that he cannot be trusted...

when asked about why they picked the PS3.. here is his answer:

"Very simple reason: Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures."... mmm... but why!? ohh because Sony said so...

"Personally, I want to show off our PS3 technology. We’re one of the few developers who love the PS3 and have a great time with it. We have great technology for the PS3 and we want to show it off."

he talk about objects on screen.. and then give an example (when asked) about sound which have nothing to do with those objects...

"The PlayStation 3 has seven processors and the 360 only has three, so seven versus three means you can do a lot more on the PS3." you have to be kidding me... he does not know the difference between Cores and SPEs!!!? You have to be an idiot to compare the PS3 and the xbox 360 this way.... any idiot knows that a core <> SPE... a core runs independent... I am not saying that the PS3 overall may not be more powerful as some people argue executing specific tasks... but this is apple's and oranges... 1 SPE can't do $h!t alone... while 1 core can run an entire game... and this guy is comparing 7 vs 3?

[PirateThom]

Sony also own the rights to Spider-man, but when Spiderman 3: The Game came out the PS3 version was gimped to all hell.

The game was crap, lets be honest, but the PS3 version was a lot worse than the 360 version.

Sony Pictures and Sony Computer Entertainment are two different entities, just because they own the rights to the movies doesn't mean they own:

1. The devs making the game
2. Control of the game
3. Control of platform
4. Ability to change what the devs say

[SUP3R]

I guess you missed the interview where Dan Houser was asked how they fit GTA4 on a DVD, he said "magic and their compression tools".
I laughed hard at the "magic" comment.
Going into the future, not all developers are going to continue performing magic to make their games fit cuz it's only going to get bigger and more frustrating.
So if you refuse to believe that the tech of today will remain as is in the coming years, then you're very close minded.

[Bladestar]

@PirateThom - the guy said it... what else do you want? he said, "Very simple reason: Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures." when asked why the PS3 was the lead platform... also stated "Personally, I want to show off our PS3 technology. We’re one of the few developers who love the PS3 and have a great time with it. We have great technology for the PS3 and we want to show it off."... he is bias.. how else can be saying for you to understand... all his comments are uhhhh... bias... it's obvious that Sony want's to make sure that games that they own the right are made better on the PS3... also that the developers are very expressive about how powerful the PS3 is... we see this all the time... before their games come out...

This is like asking bungie which platform is better! freaken duhh...

"1. The devs making the game
2. Control of the game
3. Control of platform
4. Ability to change what the devs say "

uhhh... didn't you read the interview?

he said the reason why the lead platform is the PS3 is because Sony own the right... so no.. they do NOT CONTROL THE PLATFORM. he also prefer the PS3... just like other developers like prefer the xbox 360... like valve for example... like EPIC....

making game is not magic is just programming.. the more time you spend on a platform the better you are at it... this people are obviously focusing on the PS3.. he does not mind saying that...

How much you want to bet that Gear 2 will kick Ghostbuster @$$ in terms of graphics, features and object on the screen!...

So, why don't they dumb down the game to Gear 2, bioshock level?... I wouldn't mind that!... lol.

[fenderputty]

What about all those developers who built games that were marginally better on the 360 than the PS3 in the first year and a half? Are they all bad developers too since they didn't make the game exclusive and go with the platform the game was better developed on? I'm assuming you're rather upset and EA then.

"This is like asking bungie which platform is better! freaken duhh..."

No it's not. Bungie only develops for the 360.

"How much you want to bet that Gear 2 will kick Ghostbuster @$$ in terms of graphics, features and object on the screen!... "

How much you want to bet KZ2 kills those?

Sounds like someone's just a little upset about the whole GTA4 thing ehh? Why are you getting all sad? OOOO yeah ... the 360 isn't the end all be all of gaming that everyone thought it was a year ago.

[beans]

Actually he made some good points and especially at the end of his second comment that got me cracking up! Just so you know 360 owners are not jealous over anything to do with GTA but it does sound like your jealous and upset over the fact that 360 games have always looked and scored better always lol! Gears2 is going to set the bar again along with other 360 titles in the future so get ready for it! It's hilarious how you guys keep talking about 360 holding things back when it's actually the other way around!

[THE TERMINATOR]

Bladestar he is a developer
You are a fanboy
BIG DIFFERENCE

[beans]

Developers can be fanboys too!

[Bladestar]

I am also a developer... but besides that... I don't think you need to be a developer to know that blu-ray has nothing to do with object in the screen... but VGA and memory... lol.. why don't you add a blu-ray drive to ypur Pentium 3 computer and see if you can run Crysis... also it's kind of interesting how you picked the gods(developers) to believe... not knowing that each developer have their opinion and believes...

this is why some developers think that Java is better than C# and perl than asp.net... or that C is better than C++... and there are a bunch of computer languages and platforms and a ton of programmers for each... so I would recomend you to become a developer yourself before you can trust blindly what 1 developer say... developers tend to have an opinion and a preference based on their personal experience and taste... and the PS3 and the xbox 360 is no difference... just another platform and set of tools to work with... did you know that some developer prefer COBOL over C++? and believe COBOL is a better language... even today!? how can that be! they are developers! ohhh no!!!!!!!!!! the end of the world! lol... developers aren't gods... lol... this is just a guy with an opinion... nothing more...

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Actually It's not just memory
that allows so many objects on screan
at once.

First It's how you use the memory you
have available to you, also proccessing
power plays a big role, memory is only
needed to load the objects, not keep
them there.

[somelikeithot]

at the end of the day sony lost out on a massive market share just to make sure they had blu-ray ready in each system, giving microsoft a good opportunity to get themselves a good portion of the market in which they should have really capitalized on. They didn't and now face the rough end of the stick just as sony did in the beginning, sony now just need to prove not just to gamers but the world the real difference between have blu-ray and not having it.

[PimpHandHappy]

Hey Blade why dont you list the games your working on

oh and yea

I guess by your comment you only buy AAA games

man POG

Hey blade

nvm

[likeaboss302]

When the developer said the PS3 has 7 processors and the 360 has three so that means it can do more. That's not always the case because the three CPUs in the 360 are very different then the 7 in the PS3. It's not an apples to apples comparison.

[JoelR]

SPEs are turing complete and thus can do anything a standard processor can do ^_-
but they may not be able to do some functions as fast.
so yes they can be compared to regular cpus

learn computer engineering next time ok?

[likeaboss302]

You might want to do the same thing. I guess it's too much to ask for mature comments on this forum from some people. From everything I've read on both processors the 360 has three general purpose CPUs where the PS3 has one general purpose CPU and the rest are specialty CPUs. Sure you can have those specialty CPUs do whatever you want but there are more limitations.

By the way I own both systems.

[JoelR]

yes it does have 3 general purpose cpus... but the spus can do anything a gpcpu can do but they take more steps
at the faster clock rate those steps are faster though and complete in much the same time as they do on on the gpcpu.

[Rims]

SUCK ON IT YOU XBOTS

[InYourMom]

Yeah suck on it you xbots! Once Rims mom is done sucking it!

[ApocalypseShadow]

what ps3 fan didn't know this already?ps3 exclusives have been doing more since launch.360 holds next gen back by its DESIGN.

when resistance came out,it did 40 players online with little to no lag.at best,360 was doing 16 players.it has got better with 360,but insomniac now wants to up the number of gamers online to 60 players.

when motorstorm came out,it had mud,surface deformation,great lighting,"vehicle damage",speed,different times of day,AA,etc.no 360 racing game yet has put all that onscreen at the same time and have 12 players online.

when heavenly sword came out,it had hundreds of enemies,and physics,AA,lighting,particle effects,etc.dead rising did a good job of having tons of zombies,but it lacked everything else heavenly sword was doing all at once.

when GT5:p came out,it put 16 cars on the road at 1080p/60fps.the most detailed rides,the best lighting,great physics,etc.no 360 game to this day pulls off that all at once.

when you look at mlb:08 the show,it floors you in having great lighting,some of the most impressive player models,and great gameplay.as high definition said,what happened to mlb2k8 on 360 if 360 is so easy to make games on?ps3's exclusive baseball game does more.

time and again,we see ps3 exclusives pwn bladstar's comments when it comes to system power.and we have watched gamers go from bashing ps3,to loving ps3.the haters have become "neutral" because they couldn't live without ps3 games.if 360 was so great,then there would be no need for ps3 purchases.

but mgs4,ffxiii,killzone,resistanc e 2,etc,have made you believers.i could live without 360.but you guys couldn't live without ps3.i have an xbox.but i refuse to buy sh!t(360) that breaks just by "looking at it."

funny,you guys going from bashing bluray,bashing the hdd installs,bashing hdmi,bashing the games,bashing free online gaming,bashing graphics or framerates,to having nothing left to say but....."look at our attachment rates."it's hard not to laugh as your comments have fallen on def ears when you trashed a well built system last year to buying it.the excuse?"i'm a gamer.".......hahahahaaha hh.

it gets worse from here as more devs see what ps3 can do when you KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING and can PUT MORE ONSCREEN.

megaton...................... ...

[ScottEFresh]

GIMPBOX180 REALLY STARTING TO SHOW ITS TRUE COLORS NOW!!!

BAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
BHAHAHAHHAHAHA can't help but laugh so hard at the bots ahahahhahahahahhahaha especially that f@g pedophile and that f@g PoG

[Guitarded]

that in order to put more objects on screen on PS3 they would have to scale back on other things, like texture quality and lighting. What a joke! It's already been stated long ago on several tech sites that were posted here on N4G that the PS3s power is good for having more objects on screen with more going on, and 360s power is more useful for making whats going on, on screen, pretty to look at. Since most games try to strike a balance between the two most games will look pretty close on both systems. Only exclusives will show each systems power and would not,if using all of the particular systems power, be able to be reproduced on the other system. Continue your circle jerk now fanboys.

[DJ]

I hate to break this to you dude, but Blu-ray allows for more game content (such as hi-res textures) and RSX has 4x the lighting cache of Xenos, the 360's GPU. The SPUs also rock at lighting tasks, as evidenced in games like Killzone 2.

Go back to the drawing board and figure out some other BS to spout.

[Varsarus]

No one is really taking into account that the RSX is designed to use OpenGL to it's fullest, and what can OpenGL do?, EVERYTHING DirectX 10 can do and a whole lot more.

[Sh0ckWav3]

this article sounds like Bs xbox does 2 threads per cpu and it has 3 cpus wouldnt that be 6 vs 7 ?

[DJ]

So it makes perfect sense. Not exactly new information, but at least multi-platform developers are openly confirming what we've been witnessing for the past 8 months.

[beans]

Well don't forget to witness when Gears2 raises the bar over even KZ2 and proves once again that all this PS3 is more powerful crap is nothing more then hype and talk!

[Varsarus]

What you mean by "hype"???

You honestly think Gears 2 has an edge over KZ2?, the 360 just clearly, CANNOT do realistic animations like KZ2 has done, it cannot process geometry, nor indirect lightning (KZ2 is also doing that, thank's to the Cell), and you can even do shaders on Cell, and your saying it's all hype? rofl

Sony spent over a billion on the Cell, I HARDLY think it's all hype.

[beans]

Yes Hype just like what your saying now Hype! Gears 2 is about to walk all over KZ2 and I guess do the impossible lol! You can talk the tech stuff all you want but where's the proof? If gears 1 wasn't possible on the PS3 I'm almost certain two won't because like you said it's impossible! Sony spent a billion on the cell and Kojima already maxed it out in his 1st game which sounds to me like a waste of money! Anyways good luck waiting on your KZ2 which is simply impossible on 360!

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Your replies hold no merit.
while you say that Gears would
easily outdo KZ2 you say it with
certainty, yet you say prove that
KZ2 is better then Gears, this
is what fanboyism really is.

[Varsarus]

ROFLMAO!!

Seriously, you have no clue what your saying

Proof is here

"Cell will also parallel process geometry and indirect lighting"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Gears 1 not being run on the PS3 is one of the funniest statements I've heard, ty.

They said because of RAM?, XDR is much much faster, powerful and more efficient than the 360's RAM, and I'll just say that Epic had UE3 running better on UT3 for PS3 then they did with Gears on 360???

http://www.n4g.com/tech/New...

So that statement was PR BS.

[beans]

Walter Cross: Im not trying to prove anything so whats your point plus I was being sarcastic about the KZ2 thing so thank mr Sony defense but not good enough!

Varsarus: Thats not proof! Proof is something I can see not words! When Gears 2 is out you just show me a game that can match it and that will be proof! Other then that your just talk like DJ!

And to both of you yes Gears is going to set the bar very high and nothing this year will match it graphically nothing!:p

[PiTCHBLaCK]

Well to each his own I guess.
Your right, we all will see
soon enough, I try to stay
out of the nit biting, but
some actually enjoy it.

Go figure.

[ApocalypseShadow]

you can talk about scaling back on ps3 games like guitared said.

or look at exclusive games on ps3 compared to 360 and see the difference.does it matter about graphics when it's all about having fun?noooooo.it doesn't matter to Wii fans.but the discussion is that 360 can't do what ps3 does when you know what your doing.and ghost busters is just one example of 360's inability to keep up with ps3.

guitarded,if 360 was so EASY to make games on,has been out longer,we would have seen forza2 and pgr4 look as good as GT5.and have as many cars onscreen.THEY DON'T.

if 360 was so easy to make games on,mlb2k8 on 360 would look as good as mlb08:the show on ps3.IT DOESN'T.

if 360 had the ability to do 40 player online gaming,we would have seen it at launch.it took 2 years later on 360 when ps3 did it at launch.but ps3 is aiming for 60 now.

360 fans last year spewed all day that 360 was going to be one year ahead in graphics over ps3.now they say,"it's all about the games."

what happened?don't say they opened up their eyes and became gamers again.they saw that ps3 caught and surpassed 360 in one year of development.that's what they saw.

devs said from the beginning that ps3 was more powerful.CARMACK,a known microsoft fan and tec guru,said ps3 was more powerful.devs have been saying for a year,that ps3 was a beast.and it's proving that.you can push it aside like both systems are the same,but they are not.

no amount of developing will put GT5 "AS IS" on 360.not possible.don't lie to youself.don't lie to these other gamers.everyone knew that XBOX was more powerful than PS2.why can't 360 fans and "neutral(360 fans in hiding)" fans admit that PS3 is more powerful?

because you don't want to believe 360 is inferior.and you don't want to be left behind on next gen developments.if scientists are using ps3 for scientific use,and 360 is just considered a "GAME SYSTEM".....

that should tell you something.don't lie to yourselves.

megaton......................

[beans]

Since the Ps3 is oh so powerful please show us the games that make 360 games look like PS1 games in comparison! When Gears of War 2 sets the bar again I wonder what your new excuses will be lol! The only people that want to lie to themselves are people like yourself that can't except the fact that PS3 even with a HDD and extra disc space can't even surpass the 360 in graphics and it's a much older console! Carmack also said Sony made a mistake with the Cell and that He liked the 360 and it's development tools much better then PS3! Get over it and quit typing books to prove a point that wasn't even worth reading! Sony fans are desperate this gen to claim the most powerful console but It isn't going to happen or at least not this year or next!

[PiTCHBLaCK]

You again, again you act very certain
that gears will single handedly blow
the entire PS3 lineup out of the water.

Step back a bit and look at the bigger picture.

[Orange Juice]

I'm pretty happy I own a ps3. Looks like Phil was right last year when he said the multiplatform trend of 07 will turn around. The problems with the 360 are becoming more and more apparent, and its only 08. I LOL at these people that say "just wait until the 720 comes out, then the ps3 will be trying to keep up!". I guess that confirms that the ps3 is the way to go this gen.

[PirateThom]

I think that's the only way Microsoft can compete, to launch ahead of Sony every gen. Europe and Japan will never take to the 360, American sales are pretty neck and neck at the moment. If it wasn't for that year, 360 would be dead in the water.

[Varsarus]

360's CPU = just a piss poor comparision to the CELL.

[zonetrooper5]

Hell if I was a dev for Ghostbusters I could of made the game on the PC and had more objects on the screen then any console would have.

Edit:

PDZ was a launch title for the 360 and it had 32 players online. Many games are designed differently to handle either few players or many players. Trust me, Gears of War with 60 players would be crap and Resistance with 8 players max would be crap as well, don't start flinging extra player numbers as an excuse to promote your own system as superior.

[power of Green]

Yet Many PS3 games have many objects removed vs the 360 versions of titles lol.

Friggin tree's, people, grass etc are missing from many PS3 games over the 360 version I wouldn't pay this payed Sony ad any mind we'll see all kinds of nonsense due to GTA4 installs. lol

[Ace Ventura]

who's going to be plaing the gimped version of GTA 4... and GTA 5 will probably be Exclusive to PS3.

PS3 has a MAJOR CPU advantage over the Xbox 360 and this has been said over and over by all kinds of developers... and not just a little advantage... The Cell has quite a bit more than double the 360's CPU power... you have started to see it somewhat in games like Uncharted, Ratchet and Heavenly Sword....but like Insomniac just said in an article last week... The PS3's CPU advantage is going to start showing ALOT this year when it comes to Exclusives, they said you will see more than one game this year that just couldn't be ran on the Xbox 360... because of sheer CPU power... and they said by next year's Exclusives... it won't even be a question... everyone will know.

PS3 is only 1.3 years old... but like Ign,. Gametrailers and Ripten said... Uncharted is "Easily" the best looking game on consoles and like EVERYONE said this weekend... Grand Theft Auto 4 plays best on PS3... and it's not like The Cell Processor is even close to be fully optimized yet...though already only 1.3 years into this thing it can out perform the Xbox 360 ; )

[Varsarus]

In the PS3's first year, it had games that the 360 just simply couldn't do, Heavenly Sword had great graphics, 1000 enemies on the screen at once and it still kept the game running at a smooth frame rate.

[HelghastGeneral]

HAHAH apprently these people favor the ps3 and the truth this is what i have been talking about how much 360 ruined this generation of games. I post so many comments about this and xboxfanboys can't take it and disagree but the truth is finally coming out.

[InYourMom]

So this game is also coming out to the PS2 and the Wii and the 360 held the game back??

Something doesn't add up here.

[achira]

no the 360 is as powerful as a wii or a ps2.

[InYourMom]

Congrats on a completely stupid and worthless reply.

I know you are you are %100 die hard pound Sony in the ass fanboy but do you really believe what you just typed?

It is far more advanced than either of those. I just have to laugh when a dev is making a game for the POS2 and the Wiisy that the 360 was the thing that held the game.

[Varsarus]

No, 360, ps2 & wii are holding back the PS3.

[PSMonster21]

Im not sure but i thought i read in a gameinformer magazine that the ps2 and wii will be getting a different version of the game. If so, you FAIL.

[budbundystyles]

POG,

Once again you have made a statement that makes absolutely no sense, with zero evidence to back it up. Wait a keep it consistent!

[rhood022]

it actually does make sense. It's just sad.

He is using those comparison shots from the recent Eurogamer xbox 360 vs PS3 contest of Soldier of Fortune to make his point.

[budbundystyles]

Pardon me, pog. I had no idea you were using such a AAA title as "Soldier of Fortune" as an example.

[Stretchystrong]

Why don't the developers prove these theories? Rather than saying we could have more objects on console A or a bigger game world in console B, why not just make the game how you are going to make it on the console and prove that the console can really do these things? All these developers just talk about it, but I never see any actions.

[nix]

and develop better version for PS3 irrespective of working on a 360. and they should announce that if you want gimped version, get 360... if you want better version ps3.

enough of this PS3 gamers suffering because 360 can't handle it sh!t.

[Avto]

Well as we all know and Mark Randell said Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures, so what can a man do he just has to say PS3 is the best, also even if he is all pro Sony PR on "double the amount of objects on screen" sadly he is right about audio, there is a reason single core CPU can barely run Assassin's Creed a Pentium 4 with HT can run two threads a lot better than X360 CPU, but it's not enough to do both audio and visuals let alon AI and physics. So SPE is a good sing for audio.

[Angelitos]

Bluray is the future

[TheWickedOne]

Really sucks that PS3 owners are the ones that get "punished".

[evilbart]

one hundred and twenty fifth

[testerg35]

You guys sure pick and choose who you want to listen to. So far ID and Valve have no clue and Terminal Reality does.

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

This has already been demonstrated with streaming and all the incredible effects and multiple enemies in all exclusive PS3 Engines.
People need to start making decisions about PS3 Only exclusives for the sake of NEX-GEN not MID GEN budget PC aka Xbox360.
I seriously hate playing games in Low resolution and with limited detail and small worlds.
DVD as a storage is dead! So is loading off of a dvd drive!

[Boldy]

When will people realize that of course each system will have it's limitations. That's the downside of making games multiplatform, because you have to deal with both consoles faults and work around them. Exclusives tend to look much better than multiplats because devs are working with only one system's faults so that it is much easier to work around, Ex. Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Gears of War, Dead Rising.

But I think that the Xbox has proven that it can handle multiple enemies on-screen at once, just look at these screens from Dead Rising and Kameo (both early games on the Xbox), or even the video from the Gears of War tech demo showing hundreds of Locusts running across the map. But whatever I could care less about all this fanboy stuff, especially being as I wasn't looking to much into this game anyway.

[Equinoxe_7]

I still think Cell and an Ati GPU would have been a good match, what about you, what do you think?

[richie007bond]

I sit back and read most of the comments on these forums and most are posted by ps3 fans,talk about deluded,most if not all just post fanboy garbage.Both the ps3 and 360 have have great games and will continue to do so, and at the end of the day this generation of consoles will exspand and continue to amaze us,there wont be if any major differences between 360 and ps3 graphically regardless of what sonys tells us(time to build your fanboy bridges and get over it)

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

I just read on IGN that this game will not feature co-op? Could this be more of the 360's influence rubbing off?

Oh yeah, and if you're reading this beans, Gears of War could have easily been done on PS3. They have levels in the MGO beta that are double the size of Gears maps with just as much texturing, 8 on 8 players.

That being said, I think there is a definite possibility of Gears3 coming to PS3 seeing as how Epic only signed a 2 game deal w/ MS.

[ApocalypseShadow]

too bad.suck it up and take it like a man.when ps3 fans can pull a bunch of games off the shelf that 360 has no equivalent to,that should tell you something.fans of 360 can only pull one game.and that's gears.and that's...SAD!

carmack said he didn't like ps3's architecture.he also didn't like ps2's architecture.but i ask this question:how many games has carmack made on ps2?ps3?or even ps1?here's your answer:

ZERO.

carmack is lazy and expects the same type of programming that has been done for years on pc.he WOULD consider anything else that makes you push yourself to be too hard.i don't respect him.he sucks because other great developers are proving him wrong since ps1.

and i'm guessing you can't READ.nowhere in my comments have i said ps3 games make 360 games look like ps1.that was your words.not mine.that's why i know you got butt hurt.

i said ps3 has better looking games because they are exclusive.and that 360 is showing its age "ALREADY" with all these hiccups.if i pull a game out on ps3,you could not pull out an equal game of the same level.

ps3 does more as this dev is saying.as we have been saying since launch.i don't care what system you play.have fun with it.but just don't think that 360 can match ps3 game for game when ps3's top games are outdoing 360 games.with or without hard drive.

i'll give you easy ones.give me a 360 game that matches GT5:P.

lighting,amount of cars,detail for cars,in car view/out of car view.

give me an offroad game on 360 that matches everything motorstorm is doing with up to 15 cars on the track.

you can't.and those were the easy ones.STFU!

megaton................

[Saint Sony]

Retard devs.

On the other hand, this game would suck big time even if PS3 exclusive so no worries.

[xg-ei8ht]

I'm dying, I'm sure i heard that from a 360. Could have just been the noise from the drive though?

[pimpstation]

We be tryna play sum games and the Pleasefixme is shuttin us down. Yo M$, just quit sellin that burning box o' death and let us play sum real games.

[tehReaper]

What, like Lair?

[pimpstation]

Lair. That's the 360 fanboys response to everything. The **** does Lair have to do wit the 360 spoiling great games like GTAIV?

[Sh0ckWav3]

@megaton shadow
what make you think the xbox360 cant do 40 or 60 player online?
we had blackhawk down on the original xbox with 50 players online.

[Mclovin96]

LOL that article was the biggest load of crap I have ever read. Eat it up fanwhores, I hope it makes you feel special.

"Ghostbusters is the property of Sony Pictures."
"I want to show off our PS3 technology"
"I want to receive my paycheck from Sony with a nice bonus next friday."

Shove it up your ass.

[MainEventX]

PS3 is the only true next-gen system the Wii and 360 shouldn't even be considered next-gen consoles. First off the Wii and 360 still use an old format called DVD which only holds 4.7 gbs of data or 9gb on dual layer disc, the PS3 uses Blu-ray which holds 25gb of data or 50gb on dual layer disc. The Wii has no hdmi port which is necessary for the future while the 360 has an hdmi port 1.2 and the PS3 has an hdmi port that supports 1.3a. The differences first off 1.2 supports 16.7 million colors while 1.3a supports over 1 billion colors. 1.2 cant use Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master Audio and it cant support 7.1 surround sound, while on the other hand hdmi 1.3a supports all that plus more. hdmi 1.2 can only support 1920x1080p60fps maxed out while 1.3a supports 2560x1600p60fps maxed out. An added bonus about 1.3a also supports x.y.Color and Deep Color which 1.2 dosent. 1.3a also has a way higher transfer rate and bit rate compared to 1.2. Also the 360 has 3 core processors which is old news considering Intel makes Quad Core Processors while the PS3 has the revoluntionary Cell processor which has 8 and the Wii has a weak processor we dont even nedd to talk about.You cant even upgrade the 360 HD unless u pay for an overpriced 120 piece of crap HD on th PS3 u can upgrade your HD limitleesly. The 360 or the Wii doesnt even have an HD movie playback drive the PS3 does. The PS3 is built stronger than both the Wii and 360 it can handle more heat and cold and still not break down. Also the PS3 firmware constantly upgrades the system and by far has the most multimedia compatibilities compared to the Wii and 360. The RSX GPU can handle DirectX 10 level details and graphics the 360 GPU can't. The PS3 is truly the only system worthy of being called next gen and is the most future proof console that ever existed.

[smurfie4]

Lair wasnt as much a failure as people make it out to be. The patch for analog controls helped fix the main beef with the game. Although it still his its problems, what game is perfect? As ive said before, with mp's come compromises. If you want to see the best performance, youll have to look at exclusives.

[Bizmal]

People need to stop acting like this has not happended before. Many games have been held back because of the not so next gen 360. In fact GTA is sure to have been reduced to run on the 360. Lack of system power. If you like your 360 then be happy. But don't act like it's not done what's it's done.

[CViper]

Bladestars fingers must be tired. All the defense.

[sleepbox]

And this is why I am getting a PS3.

[ceee227]

What the hell...when Splinter Cell came out for PS2 they watered it down big time, compare to the XBOX. Why can't they do the same with this game. PS3 in all its glory and 360 watered down. Oh yeah, I forgot, it is all about the 360 install base and the $$$$$. Go to hell Terminal Reality, I hope your game bombs.

Sounds a lot like Sony propaganda anyway. I'm tired of this corporate BS between MS and SONY, they are both telling lies.

[PoSTedUP]

dam, why cant xbox be as good as ps3. their ruining it for themselves and their competition (ps3 gamers). xbox should jus go take a hike, they dont belong here yo.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

The PlayStation 3 was meant to stream so when fully using the unique multi-core design the eight (one for operating system) Synergistic Processing Elements (SPE) / main Power Processing Element (PPE). This is why Killzone 2 looks so good it's the combination of Blu-ray space (50GB) with advanced streaming technology.

Don't get me wrong every console streams but the PlayStation 3 needs to with Blu-ray discs. This is why I think there are so much installs with multiplatform games. The PlayStatio 3 isn't the lead console and it's easier to dump some data to the hard drive. PC (Personal Computer) games do this a lot it's just a way to get things done faster.

This is why I want to see how Prototype and inFamous turn out because they're both in the same boat. This is why I think Star Ocean 4 will be a PlayStation 3 exclusive (platform to be anounced). The other game I want to see is Heavy Rain: The Origami Killer the ground breaking PlayStation 3 exclusive title.

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[Muddyalcapones]

THE ERA OF THE PS3 BEGINS!!!

...too much?

[Expy]

Put in the game in your XBOX 360...

"Sony Pictures Presents..."
"A Sierra Production"
"A not so complete version of..."
"GHOSTBUSTERS THE GAME!"

[Dr_Nefarious]

First of all the guy did mention he works for Sony. Don't know if he got paid or not ,but his points are becoming more common. As a gamer of both systems I have to say that I can see his points but that doesn't really matter. All that matters is the gameplay.

Ask me about which system has better looking games than i would say it is a tie. The multiplats do look a hair better on the 360, but then again the games that are made for the PS3 look much, much better. I'm not talking about a little but a lot. I used to think gears was the best looking game, but then came uncharted. The lighting in that game just floored me. The trend I am starting to notice is that PS3 has better AA and far superior lighting (not by a little but by bunchs and bunchs). If you can take a cartoon looking game and add lighting to it so realistic that it makes the cartoon look realistic then that is saying something (uncharted ring a bell).

Anyways I prefer my 360. Thats where the games are at.

[QuackPot]

I don't care about this issue.

I just the developers to translate the fun from the movie into great gameplay. That's all that matters.