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MGS4 Rated, Total Running Time Revealed

BBFC passes game for release; avoids '18' classification
Konami's Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots has been passed by the BBFC with a '15' age rating.

The classification was made without any cuts having to be applied to the game.

On its website, the BBFC reveales that the game has a 'total running time' of 545m 47s (9hrs; 5 mins; 47 secs).

Guns Of The Patriots is due for release in the US and Europe on Friday, June 12th.

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thereapersson5877d ago

I wonder what criteria that time quote entails?

Silverwolf5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

They probably have access to cheats so they can examine a game more freely without actually having to play it. So the time they state might not be accurate.

thereapersson5877d ago

I hope so. I don't think Kojima would release an epic game of this sort with that short of a play-through time.

NO_PUDding5877d ago

I have a feelign you can only qualify run time, for cut scenes.

Otherwise, it's play time, and it's far less exact than that.

Mainman5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

MGS3 only had about 3 hours of cut-scenes, compared to 9 hours of MGS4 cut-scene's.

kwicksandz5877d ago

Games are getting shorter and shorter this gen. COD4, heavnly sword etc 10 hours seems like the new industry standard which i find a little dissapointing...

callahan095877d ago

@ guy who said MGS3 only has about 3 hours of cutscenes:

OK. It also has the shortest runtime of cutscenes in the series. Especially if you include codec conversations, of which very little exist in MGS3 and tons and tons in MGS2.

pharmd5877d ago

thats not much longer than MGS2..... dont get me wrong, i'll play it all day long, especially online, but i was hopin for like a 20 hour epic or something

decapitator5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

Their review copy and not the full game guys...The title is a little misleading.

Tarasque5877d ago

Well there was an article a while back that a guy played through the whole game in 2-5 hour sittings roughly.

sonarus5877d ago

since when did games release run time to the rating board. My guess is its the cut scenes.

dan-boy5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

was just shy of 6 hours play-time and god i would rather forget the cut-scenes! kojima loves cut-scenes, and if they say running time of 9+ hours, then i'm thinking thats from start to credits!! when you have a running time on a film, that's the same(start to credits). so perhaps this could be the same?!

until it's released, best just to wait, and not speculate too much! besides, the game is on-line. any shortages in the game will be compensated by the on-line component!

Edit: obviously the reviewer could have just run through the game...or it could be something far worse..9 hours of cut scenes

sonarus5877d ago

@dan-boy why do you care...are you buying the game or do you own a ps3???.

9hrs of cut scenes and codecs simply tells me we are in for a pretty remarkable story. I hope the gameplay and cut scenes are more evenly split this time. Considering it took the gaming journalists about 2 days to finish (doing nothing but playing MGS4), we can say everything plus cut scenes should be at least 20hrs (Hopefully)

Foliage5877d ago

Our last game we sent off for an ESRB rating didn't require a playthrough. In fact they wanted the videos to be kept as short as possible. Granted, we aren't Konami.

They wanted things like:
- A video of each sniper rifle in use (shoot enemy, zoom in and out, reload, bullet cam)
- A video of each pistol in use (shoot enemy, reload)
- A video of each assault rifle in use (shoot enemy, reload)
- A video of player using the knife to kill
- A video of the player getting shot by enemies, taking damage
- A player jumping off a high place and dying
- Video of enemy taking damage (focus on the sound he makes)
- Video of the player taking damage (focus on the sound player makes)
- Video depicting the worst of the blood splatter effects
- Video showing what can be done to a dead body with the various weapons, and how long it stays on screen
- Video of the player committing suicide by walking into the water
- Video of the player getting shot and dying
- 1 video for each place where there is swearing or harsh language
- please also compile a text list where a swear word is used (see script)

So I don't see how they could get any form of valid play time out of the rating process. You think when rating a game that they would want to see the same repetitive actions over and over? That 9 hours is probably all original game play scenes, and cinematics.

Foliage5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

Check out this link:
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/websi...

If you add up all that in-game footage you get about 85 hours or so. (Not an actual calculation, just an estimate)

Why would there be so many videos for "in game footage" included?

dan-boy5876d ago

as it happens, i was intending to get one of the world beating mgs bundles that get touted by the likes of you on here!

"9hrs of cut scenes and codecs simply tells me we are in for a pretty remarkable story" i've got to say, that's one of the saddest comments i've heard on here! 9 hours of cut scenes????? that would be terrible imo! especially if you could'nt skip them! i remember the disappointment that was mgs2, not much gameplay, and too many cut scenes! and kojima loves em! 9 hrs of cut scenes = a non buy for me simple as that!

i know it's sacrielage to speak ill of mgs on this site, but i'm allowed an opinion! and before you all start going on about halo and gears, they were both (apart from halo1) underwhelming aswell. but tey redeemed themselves on-line.....and f***-me they did'nt have 9 hrs of cut-scenes to sit through!!

i really hope it aint true!!

samfk5876d ago

forget blue ray i bought a ps3 because mgs4 was sony only!!and now im told its short. to say im dissapointed is an understatement!!

ryuyasho5876d ago

but didn't Hideo-sama said that this game couldn't fit into a 50GB BluRay Disc??? something smells fishy... 9hrs.??? give me a focking brake... Title Misleader.

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SPARTAAN5877d ago

not sure about the run time because the 16 reporters spent 3 days at the boot camp with nothing to do other than play the game and all the stuff we have seen until now(which is a lot)is only from the first arc so im expecting it to be around 15-25 hrs

Sir Ken Kutaragi 15877d ago

...BEST 9hrs:5mins:47secs of Gameplay you have ever Played in your LIFE!!!
;-P

+I'd rather play 9hrs:5mins:47secs of this than anything that has been on the xBox 360!!! ;-D

+to the xBot Lemmings who PM me...GET A LIFE!!! ;-D
(i'm REALLY NOT interested in ANYTHING you say)

Jack Meahoffer5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

Bluray has done NOTHING so far for PS3 games. MGS4 was supposed to show the full power of Bluray and yet the game is STILL extremely short.

Name one game that was longer and contained more content due to Bluray! Every single exclusive PS3 that supposedly filled up the Bluray game in under 10 hours.

What a joke. Maybe by the end of the PS3 cycle Bluray will show its worth for games but 16 months in there is ZERO evidence. So far the only benefit is for developers to put all languages on one disk.

Jack Meahoffer5877d ago

"MGS4 is going to destroy every game this year and all the xbot"

Its going to destroy every game this year AND ALL THE XBOT?

All the xbot? Wow don't know how to respond to that piffy retort... You got me there genius...

Why not name one game that has benefited from Bluray? Can you? What game has been longer and contained more content due to Bluray? Sony fanboys say how important bluray is so I'm asking an honest question. What game has benefited?

SPARTAAN5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

this is post from the open zone by callahan09

"I HAVE PROOF!
Everyone, I have proof that this 545 minutes running time is significant, and not representative of the length of the game, but does give an idea of how absolutely huge the game really is.

"GRAND THEFT AUTO IV
Classified 31 March, 2008
This work was passed with no cuts made.

When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 463m 0s"

--- And:

"METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS
Classified 22 April, 2008
This work was passed with no cuts made.

When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 545m 47s."

------

There ya go. The running time of the footage they watched for MGS 4 was even significantly longer (18% more footage) than what they watched for GTA IV. Any questions? "

DarK-SilV5877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

to answer your Q .the game will be MGS4 , just wait and see, we still don't know alot about the game .

PopEmUp5877d ago

so you are admitting you're an xbot roflmfao

leon765876d ago

Note for this @ssholes: Runing time IS NOT gamleplay time!!!! Running time is time the disc played, like a dvd, this is BBFC, they didn't complete the game your morons, they just gave it the rating and the running time is just like they do with the movies in DVD!!!!!!!!!!

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Iamback5877d ago

I hardly believe it is only 9 hours. Maybe if you have played it 10 times and just RUN through game, than maybe. From what Shane said on 1UP yours (and other previewers) it is longer than that.

hades075877d ago (Edited 5877d ago )

What does the 9 hrs stand for is what I want to know. Gameplay? Then that is pretty freaking short. Cutscenes? If so it's supposed to be a game isn't it, not a movie. What's it doing with 9 hrs of cutscenes. I can now see this being like MGS2 rather than the mighty MGS1 or even MGS3. Convoluted story and people falling asleep during a butt load of boring cutscenes.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro79d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7279d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_79d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga79d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos78d ago (Edited 78d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2378d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200079d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin79d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole79d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix79d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198979d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198979d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

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Dirty_Lemons389d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde389d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden389d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop389d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu389d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop389d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17389d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop389d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984388d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster388d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989389d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon389d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

RNTody389d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon389d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

RNTody389d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon389d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden389d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt389d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989389d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90389d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden389d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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