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Top 2 reasons why nextgen consoles are extremely important and their possible downfall.

The Playstation 4 and Xbox One could easily fail. Sony and Microsoft have already excluded themselves from gaming evolution. Could the STEAM train bring its a-game with a recent technological advantage? This weapon called the thunderbolt maybe? Read more.

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jackanderson19853904d ago (Edited 3904d ago )

the steam box might be the next best thing but at the rumoured 1000 price tag they're going to have a hard time pushing it on consumers....i built a pretty decent gaming rig for €800 (built mainly through bday gifts and related) and that also included the cost of the OS and everything else dunno if i could justify to myself to go buy a 1000 box that would sit beside my tv when the pc could do the same jazz

Parasyte3904d ago

Read the article before commenting please. It brings up a few good points and ideas.

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EXVirtual3904d ago (Edited 3904d ago )

'They make slow, or out right prevent the evolution of gaming experience by having limited hardware.'
Well, I think you're saying that now especially because of how long this gen was. But what you need to understand is that, if these next gen consoles were on the level of the highest end PCs on the market, the prices would be unbelievable. Especially if you expect them to run at like 4k @ 60 fps. I don't even think the ninth gen of consoles will be able to do that. But how long will this gen last. Ehh... I'd like to speculate but we'll have to wait and see.
Also, 1 million PS4 pre-orders beg to differ with the title.

Sarick3904d ago (Edited 3904d ago )

This article looks like it was written someone who's a biased PC fan. He/she thinks that all new tech should be rapidly replaced and that the life cycle of a console should be updated every few months.

New tech has its advantages but remember every time you update/replace hardware you need to throw something else away. This is wasteful and more expensive in the long run. The developers also need to keep up with every change mid development.

One thing I've noticed is computer game technology seems advance faster then software. Why? It's because the games take years to make sometimes. By the time a game is fully completed the tech could've become 2-3 times better. At least with the 5 year console lifetime developers can maintain a standardized development pattern.

Knowing the specs are locked from the start helps the developers realize their development process from start to finish. If they had to worry about re-optimization every 6 months while still in development I would assume it would increase production cost.

Also, the customers would lose faith in console makers. Just like they did with the saga consoles. Remember the path sega took (excluding hand helds) Genesis, Saga CD, saga 32X, Sega Saturn then the Dreamcast? All these new tech updates where released so close together that it confused the customers and developers. It caused a lack of faith.

If you want the costly update path every few months GET A PC. Don't try and drag the console market into a an endless rat race. I think both developers and hardware manufactures know that keeping a standardized environment lets the customers spend more money on games software instead of displacing it on constant hardware replacements.

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kryteris3904d ago

3 years isn't exactly rapid, and it is a suggested "option" for a high settings mode. Would allow consoles to keep up with technological advances and not become obsolete.

"He/she thinks that all new tech should be rapidly replaced and that the life cycle of a console should be updated every few months." -You made this up entirely.

"All these new tech updates where released so close together that it confused the customers and developers. It caused a lack of faith." - This argument was address at the end of the article, did you even read it? :P

Sarick3904d ago (Edited 3904d ago )

-You made this up entirely.
did I? From the way I read it his ideal system was based around a PC that can be upgraded.

"I am expecting that this tech will be available with the Steam Box simply because Valve’s target audience is the PC gaming community.

Clearly he's a fan of the PC market. The whole article talks about having expansion ports.

Sega tried this already with 32X and Sega CD . Some customers would upgrade others wouldn't. Nintindo also did this with the N64, some games required the ram expansion port just to play newer games. Sony did tis with the HDD and network adapter. You saw how supported the HDD was. The only game I know that supported it in the USA was Final Fantasy 11.

This didn't work well it split the market. Developers had to develop and custom optimize for each attachment. In some cases the software became totally incompatible without the upgraded hardware.

Yes I did read it. There where subtitle references that gave me the ultimate impression he's deeply into the hottest tech. Just look at His about profile. It even says he's a "gamer enthusiast, graphics whore, tech guru" With references like that I doubt he has anything older then 2 a year old gaming rig.

Say, what you will the article gave me the impression that he whats a faster upgrade pace in the gaming market. You say 3 years, the standard pace is 5 years with support for at least 10 years. The only people I know who upgrade every 18-48 months are the hard core PC enthusiast.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18816h ago(Edited 6h ago)

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

SonyStyled3h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

Ms3tjt56m ago

“ Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. ”

Aka

“I don’t know how business works”

jwillj2k46h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot5h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

RNTody5h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

anast5h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19794h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead1d 19h ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 18h ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1821d 6h ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie20h ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere11h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin17h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere11h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Hereandthere11h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

OtterX1d 9h ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

RNTody1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno1d 8h ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard7t31d 6h ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno1d 6h ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii17h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno15h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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