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Wargaming CEO upset over Xbox Live fee for World of Tanks

In an interview with GamesIndustry International, Kislyi expressed that the annual subscription fee for Xbox Live Gold members irked him a bit, as it meant that his game wasn't truly free. However, he chalked it up as a cost of doing business with a company as big as Microsoft. "They cannot drop it for us because they would have to drop it for everyone and it would be a total mess for them," he stated.

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iGAM3R-VIII3982d ago (Edited 3982d ago )

LMAO

I just remembered that this is a free-to-play-game and in order for this to work you have to pay 60 bucks for XBl, THEN it is a free-to-play-game.

LOL M$, your problems keep coming, even after you solve them.

A smart idea is to keep some games for free and able to use the without XBL but of course, $$$ is what you want.

M$= My $(money)

RM-TatoTiburon3982d ago

don't we have to pay a fee to sony in order to play the free games that they gave us?

Funky Town_TX3982d ago

Yes you do. Xbox live has had a fee since it started and this "CEO" did not know that?

DarkBlood3982d ago

if your talking about the psplus thing then that is a different thing. you dont need it to play "freetoplaygames" that is seperate and not a part of whole deal.

Ilovetheps53982d ago

You have to pay a fee to play PS+ games, but you don't have to pay for PS+ for f2p games. A couple of the f2p games for PS4 are Blacklight Retribution (a game I really enjoy on PC), and Planetside 2. I am pretty sure there are others, but I can't think of them off of the top of my head.

grimmweisse3982d ago

The free games on PSN are basically leased, as long as you have a plus subscription. But you're detracting from the point. You have to pay for XBL in order to play a free to play game. Kind of defeats to point doesn't it!

PS3, free to play games, no online subscription required.

PS4, free to play games, no online subscription required.

XBL, free to play games, online subscription required.

HammadTheBeast3982d ago

PS+ gives you cloud support for saved games, pretty awesome deals on PS store, free trials of games, exclusive betas, free dlc, dlc early, and themes, avatars, and automatic updates.

Oh, and then there's also 100+ good games a year for free with your subscription.

Here's a comparison.

Xbox: Fable 3, Assassins Creed 2 (2006), World of Tanks

PS3: Uncharted 3, XCOM, Saints Row 3, Just Cause 2 etc. DCUO, Free Realms, Dust 514.

Soon to be joined with max graphics Planetside 2, War frame, Black light, and DCUO with PC Max graphics.

andrewsqual3982d ago

PS4 Free 2 Play games WON'T require any payment or subscription to Playstation Plus. That is the topic of this article. Tekken Revolution is Free 2 Play on PS3 right now and Harada REFUSED to bring it to 360 because of it not actually being able to be played for free on Microsoft's incredibly flawed system, something that is going to screw them over and its customers in the next 5 years.

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Kratos_19863982d ago

you dont have to pay on ps4 to play f2p games

Cueil3982d ago

someone is paying for it

dolkrak3982d ago

@cueil So what ? Sony gives us more than MS, as usual. What's your point ?

aceitman3982d ago

just like Netflix u shouldn't have to pay for things that are free elsewhere. no matter pc or console

Mr2Good33982d ago

Of course you have to pay on XBL to play a free game. Hell, you have to pay for XBL to watch Netflix ( a service you already pay for ). If more people in the industry speak up then maybe MS will to a 180 like they did with the DRM and 24 check in.

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windblowsagain3982d ago

Strangely i got a free milkshake with my fries after i bought it.

iGAM3R-VIII3982d ago

was that supposed to be a joke?

Smoovekid3982d ago

It's Microsoft what do you expect.

Double_O_Revan3982d ago

I think I got their new slogan:

Xbox One, come pay...erm.... Play with us.

shivvy243982d ago

No its "xbox one , jump out"

Jughead34163982d ago

With PS4, downloading Free to Play games won't require PS+. That's wassup. That's why I'm sticking with Sony. It's bad when developers that are making a game exclusively for your system is pissed at you.

MysticStrummer3982d ago

Indeed. One of my most anticipated titles is Planetside 2. Can't wait to see that on my big screen TV with surround sound.

mafiahajeri3982d ago

Love planetside but I don't think it will transfer well to console.

MysticStrummer3982d ago (Edited 3982d ago )

Yeah it certainly will be a challenge, but I've seen control schemes that would work with a controller. Also, PS3 supports mouse and keyboard so I don't see why PS4 wouldn't.

mushroomwig3982d ago

Exactly, it seems like the developer didn't shop around first before settling with Microsoft. Sony don't aren't charging a penny for it.

CEO, I hope the money Microsoft paid you was worth it.

lonesoul653982d ago (Edited 3982d ago )

not taking sides but if the only online you want to play is F2P...then that's great...anything else, PS+...so you will probably get it either way.

Funky Town_TX3982d ago

What if the game has MP on PS4? Then you pay?

MysticStrummer3982d ago

Not with Planetside 2, Warframe, or DC Universe Online. Those are the only ones I know of so far that are completely free but I'm sure there will be others.

grimmweisse3982d ago

If it's a retail game that you paid for with an online component, the you will need a PSN+ subscription to access the online portion of the game.

If it's just a free to play game, just like MysticStrummer mentioned then no, you will not require a PSN+ subscription.

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BattleReach3982d ago

This is about the Xbox 360. It should be nice, happy and lovely here. We only hate when its about Xbox One, remember everyone? :)

Jughead34163982d ago

Yea, but this issue is about the subscription services not the system it's on. If this game were on Playstation, there wouldn't be a fee for it. It would be true FREE TO PLAY.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate5d ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider16245d ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg4d ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC4d ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

PSPSA4d ago

I'm not convinced, why then announce that they're actually working on the next-generation Xbox with “the largest technical leap”, and also looking into handhelds now?

Rols4d ago

Not like MS don’t drop things a hot potato if it is not performing. Look at MS history to see products or platforms discontinued. Xbox is not a charity for MS, it needs to make money and the ABK was the last roll of the dice for Xbox.

purple1014d ago

Xbox hardware team members have been incorporated into surface team

This perhaps shows they are not expecting big things from Xbox as a separate entity

Abear214d ago

Seems like they are planning to win next gen. All the acquisitions were this generation and nobody except Xbox fans expect games from the acquisitions any time soon.

I’m sure Microsoft can afford to lose money on the short term, pretty sure they do risk assessment when acquiring many companies and spending billions, they’ll be fine lol.

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gold_drake5d ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit5d ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS5d ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies5d ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT5d ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor5d ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff21835d ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot5d ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit5d ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal5d ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS5d ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box5d ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

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Relientk777d ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE6d ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7306d ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor6d ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos6d ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor6d ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos6d ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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