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Xbox fans outraged at Orth’s comments, Greenberg doesn’t know who he is

Aaron Greenberg, Chief of Staff for Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft, was shown Adam Orth’s tweets and his reply was really surprising.

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NastyLeftHook04070d ago (Edited 4070d ago )

too late, he already did the damage. people in rual areas should feel insulted.

oh and i like how they say "may get fired" his behind is gone for sure.

@convas, please refrain from using racist/insulting comments on here. that is childish.

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ThatCanadianGuy5144070d ago

Convas... you seem to be having a bit of a meltdown the last few days? Are you okay?

on topic, it's strange to see MS take this route.I expected xbox and playstation to duke it out next gen again for round 3.

Instead, wii U is D.O.A and Microsoft seems hellbent on killing the xbox so it looks like it's just PS4 vs Ouya at this point lol

dcbronco4070d ago

Or at least rumors are hell bent on killing the Xbox. MS hasn't said a thing.

OpieWinston4069d ago

Rumors bro...
Sony had similar rumors, it's just people from both sides of the console war focused on destroying the other sides fanbase at all costs.

Microsoft will either A) Host a conference and show their game off, OR B) Wait till E3 and collectivally show their console and exclusives off as well as answer questions for the Xbox fans.

I will agree Wii-U is practically stuck in current gen, only thing keeping it alive is it having kickass Exclusives.

Personally I'm 70/30 getting a 720(LET THE DISLIKES COME) but I understand why people want the PS4 and I respect that, I've realized this console war is just pathetic and people will buy what they want.

Rant...Rant...Rant...FUCK RUMORS!

cyguration4069d ago

@Opie

The rumors about the PS4 were shot down a year before Sony announced the console (especially regarding Always-on and a ban on used games).

I'm not linking to those articles anymore because people should be informed before saying ignorant things without researching them first.

xursz4069d ago

I don't know what all this is about but I feel like Microsoft has made a string of bad calls recently. Didn't Win8 just fall flat and their flagship tablet fail to take off as well?

I have to wonder what the heck is going on over there.

Gaming1014069d ago

Developers are quoted as saying "Make sure to pay your ISP bills", so I can hardly say the always online is a hoax. If a guy working for Msoft says its always online, and devs are clearly indicating it, then it's happening whether you like it or not.

Microsoft needs to formulate a message with its marketing and public relations people to ensure they spin this in their favour as much as possible. Having a smug, ignorant piece of garbage mouth off like a douchebag, full of Hubris on Twitter is NOT good messaging, and terrible public relations. Quite frankly he should be banned from talking about anything even relating to Microsoft publicly, as there are certain secrets that need to be kept secret for good reason.

Sono4214069d ago

What did the tweet say??
Can somebody please tell me.

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fei-hung4070d ago

This is worse than Sony making a comment about getting 2 jobs at the PS3 launch, difference is, they didnt add salt on the wounds by calling Sony gamers "cheapskates" or "homeless" or "stingy."

MS needs to rethink their next gen strategy to make sure they are not D.O.A (DOA like in the FRIENDS theme song not the video game).

Cueil4070d ago

the difference is that was said by the head of Sony's entertainment division this was just some guy

silvacrest4070d ago

i doubt that matters, all most people will see is an official microsoft employee spouting ignorant nonsense

Skips4070d ago

@Cueil...

One of Microsoft's Creative Directors isn't just "SOME GUY". -_-

rainslacker4069d ago (Edited 4069d ago )

Both comments are unprofessional, and not very considerate of your potential consumers. Two wrongs don't make a right. Doesn't really matter if the guy isn't a high level CEO, in this instance he still has an obligation to be respectful to the consumers due to his ties with MS. He is perfectly entitled to his opinions, but given his position, he should consider how he presents them better. Also, as I recall Sony got a lot of heat over that comment, so not sure why people are trying to draw the correlation.

All that being said, Twitter is a bane on society.

Cueil4069d ago

Yes... he's just "some guy"... everyone knew Krazy Ken no one knows this guy... not even the guy in charge of the Xbox

extermin8or4069d ago

That statement wasn't said with any malice though- this guys tweet is deliberately said in a way to get people pissed off/riled up :/ Also he's a moron he likens having an internet connection to your console tot hat of an electricity supply. Idiot-one is ESSETIAL to the machine working- nothing anyone can do about that, however internet connection is an optional choice and only compulsory if they make it so.

SonyPS3604069d ago

Dead or Alive?

Isn't that a beat 'em up?

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dcbronco4070d ago (Edited 4070d ago )

If you think a person even in Greenberg's position knows everyone, even people in high positions, you're kidding yourself's. If you've ever known someone that hires large numbers of people for a company that has hundreds of employees you'd know that they still don't know everyone they hire. They are filling spots not getting to know people. MS has 65,000 people. I'm sure he doesn't know the vast majority of them.

Half the people on this site probably don't even know who the Vice President is.

Or you could attribute it to a fanboy attitude. Any hint that something might be negative about what you like and it instant defense force.

I do agree that the Orth comment was way out of line. Even if you think it you don't need to say it.

Sparticus_14069d ago

uh...we have a vice president?

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otherZinc4070d ago

I agree with Aaron Greenburg, I dont know who this guy is either. I think he works at SONY.

Good_Guy_Jamal4070d ago

Thanx for changing that obnoxious picture you had had before. I can now agree with your comments.
On topic, this whole mess is a PR nightmare. Glad I'm not on the team responsible for Xbox image.

MYSTERIO3604069d ago

Its understandable that Mr Greenberg didn't know this guy considering there's possibly hundreds of Creative directors working at MS. It doesn't mean that what Orth said isn't true and indeed he does work there.

Daves4069d ago

The problem is the damage is the truth.

NateCole4069d ago

It's good though. The more the xbox fans stand against this the greater the chance MS will not do something like this.

extermin8or4069d ago

at this late stage in the game, it's likely to be hardware related, so it's probably too late- if they aren't well underway with production- there's no way the next xbox will be out, smaller things cost more and are harder and take longer to prodice btw before anyone sys it will be small or something...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4069d ago

Glad to see all the good xbox press. Nice!

ps4 day 1 though.

Lior4069d ago

Some major Xbox fagboy ass hurtin on n4g today

extermin8or4069d ago

you realise that's a spoof account right? I follow it too has some bloody funny tweets :p

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MEsoJD4069d ago

There's a rumor that he was fired.

MYSTERIO3604069d ago (Edited 4069d ago )

I can see MS new marketing slogan now '' xbox 720 always online deal with it''

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majiebeast4070d ago

Hell if i was Greenberg i would also deny that i know the guy.

Ezz20134070d ago (Edited 4070d ago )

what i find funny that he deny that he know the guy
when that guy Indeed work for MS
and yet still didn't debunk what he said
unlike sony ...when the rumor abot sony blocking used games ..sony was very fast and debunk it
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

omi25p4070d ago

That was after they had announced the PS4. When all the rumors were floating around they just said all will be at the conference.

Which seems to be exactly what Microsoft are doing.

_-EDMIX-_4069d ago

@omi25P- The rumor wasn't regarding the PS4. Sony had a patient that would ID the disk to the system and many believed this could be in the PS4.

No leaks for VGleaks or Kotaku or Edge etc said anything regarding PS4 devkits blocking used games.

Thus, Sony debunked it after PS4 was announced, but it wasn't part of any of the spec leaks.

The 720 bluray installs and always on DRM IS PART OF THOSE SPEC LEAKS! MS should bite the bullet and just say (We are working on 720 or XBNext and NO, it won't block used games) thats it!

At this point, they will mess up big time if people JUST keep thinking it really does block used games. But....I mean thats really if it isn't true. At this point, its pretty much all but confirmed. TOO MANY DAMN sources are confirming this to be true, many of which leaked out PS4's specs...all of which where 100% true.

So the whole "rumors" crap is just getting more and more sad. People....its pretty much all but confirmed to be true. Good enough for me! LOL! I said it before and I'll say it again....no system has been announced under sire secrecy.

TheSurg4069d ago

MS can't debunk anything because MS never said it works on next xbox. They can't even defend themselves from rumors untill next xbox is announced.

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THEDON82z14069d ago

yeah me too!!!!lllooollll!!!!

Anthotis4070d ago

Glad this smug prick got fired.

I wish misfortune on anyone who supports always online DRM and other draconian BS.

Rivitur4069d ago

Well you better start praying for Microsoft's demise then.

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies1d 18h ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX2d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody2d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 10h ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_2d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga2d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie11h ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly1d 19h ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga1d 19h ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit1d 17h ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic1d 10h ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_2d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21832d ago (Edited 2d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies1d 20h ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander19726d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv725d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander19725d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal6d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead6d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan6d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl6d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx4d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.