Square Enix CEO wants Final Fantasy Versus XIII to give you “that nostalgic, ‘this is FF!’ feeling”

Here’s another quick Final Fantasy Versus XIII non-update.

[Irishguy95]

Nomura's said this is what it's like backj in 2008, particularly when flying over the world map in an Airship...

:(
Why make us wait so long? Why not put resources into this?

[TheFinalEpisode]

Because masterpieces take time ;)

[Irishguy95]

Especially when their resources are put into other games, Versus only went into full production last year/ Because they were focusing on the sequel of FFXiii

Also, all these comments are basically just saying "don't expect Versus tomorrow"

[Godmars290]

Something yet to be released can hardly be called a "masterpiece."

[PooEgg]

'Masterpieces take time?' LMAO - tell that to Duke Nukem.

[DFresh]

Anything more then 4 years is too much time.

[AnotherProGamer]

@DFresh Half life 2 and Red Dead Redemption says hi.

[Blacksand1]

PS4

[HellzAssassin]

@ TheFinalEpisode
Gran Turismo 5. Took years to develop... I'm not saying it isn't a good game, but it was very underwhelming. Despite that, I still absolutely adore GT5 for what it is, and the support for the game. Alot of the paper cutter graphics, jaggy shadows and vast majority of the cars being HD remakes of previous ones, the game overall is still incredible. But not a masterpiece I was hoping it to be.

Plus, other games like the aforementioned Duke Nukem, and also Too Human, and a few others took years to develop and were mediocre games.

[refocusedman]

I understand what your saying but I don't necessarily agree. If square knew after 4 1/2 years that versus would still be in the developmental stage at this point in time they would not have mentioned it at E3. I know people are excited abt the game but this is really unacceptable. This "game" has been in development an almost an entire console cycle....... somethings wrong with that.

[TheFinalEpisode]

@Replies
True, but I stick by my statement. Masterpieces take time but not all games that take time are materpieces. I never said that all games that take long are guranteed to be good. I was just trying to stay positive here :P

[Xof]

Except they don't. There's a "golden development cycle." Usually 2 years minimum, 4 years maximum. Games that take more time than that to develop (or less time) tend to be not very good.

The fact that Versus XIII has been in development for so long is NOT a positive indicator. It means that there have been some serious problems with the game, either mechanically (as was the case FFXIII) or with the development staff (as was the case with FFXII).

So far, Square-Enix has proved to be utterly incompetent at handling the Final Fantasy series. The only two FF games they managed to turn out in a decent cycle basically re-used 99% of the assets of previous games.

It's entirely possible that Square-Enix is delaying the game further in order to fix the problems that caused Versus XIII to be delayed so much in the first place, but given their track record it's unlikely.

Just look at Final Fantasy XIV. A -NUMBERED- final fantasy game. If they deemed it ready for release two years ago, just imagine what an enormous mess Versus XIII might be in.

Yeah, I'm a gamer. I'm an FF fan. I really want Versus to be good. I really want it to live up to the hype.

But I'm also old enough and experienced enough to know better.

[Noctis Aftermath]

Expect it to go multiplatform.

FYI i only own a ps3, i just want to set myself up for as little disappointment as possible so i can just focus on the game.

Expect exclusive and get exclusive = thats good

Expect exclusive and get multiplat = RAGE

Expect multiplat and its multiplat = slightly disappointed.

Expect multiplat and its exclusive = happy days!

[360ICE]

Like Duke Nukem Forever and Too Human...

[doogiebear]

Has it ever crossed the minds of poeple that after all these years, we've never seen a single screenshot of this "game",except for a tech demo years ago?

Is it possible that MAYBE Square is lying to keep fans from losing interest? Maybe they want you to buy their ff 13 spin offs as an attempt to redeam themselves for the aweful FF 13. It looks like the game (FF 13 versus) isnt even really in Alpha stage after all these years. In other words, I dont think they are really working on it. Mayne a few concepts are thrown around at Square Enic's office, but I doubt anything is even close to being remotely concrete there. Why make another FF mmo, and 2 spin offs of an already convulated and underwhelming game (FF 13), if you are already busy working on the one game people actually have hope in (Ff vs).

Something is amiss here. Square is stringing gullible fans along. Square is over. Atlus, xSeed, and others are quickly reviving the japanese rpg landscape in a major way. Persona series alone is better than even the best Final Fantasy games. Square even tried stealing it's battle engine in FF 13, but failed because they dont fully understand it. Let go of Square, they are no longer what they used to be. Nor will reviving the old school FF formula be enough to save them, since so many jrpg's have already repeated that formula to the point of excess.

Shin Megami Tensai is the new JRPG series that is worth a damn. The series has been around in japan since NES, and is taking America by storm with the Persona sub series. Bye bye Square, your so done.

[Vortex3D]

If Square starts to release games quickly like how most western game companies are, FF will be full of bugs.

Real question, why is waiting so difficult? There are more games in the market that you can keep up. That's the problem with today's game consumers. Everything must be ready now, consume it quickly and forget about it. Same demand again. It will be interesting how today and future gamer generations see art. Run through the art museum and call it done immediately. Demand more arts quickly.

[morganfell]

@360ICE

You didn't learn from what happened to pooegg above? I guess not. And just like Duke Nukem, Too Human wasn't in continual development. It went through multiple platforms and countless start stops.

[MaideninBlack]

FFXIV is also sapping alot of resources.

[Lucretia]

Irish guy, the resources wasnt for 13-2. it didn't take much for them to make it.

the resources were spent to fix the crap the was FF14

Edit @ Dragonknight

I think you must have missed alot of news during the year. The resources were to FIX ff14 after it bombed. Hence ff14 2.0's recent release.

nomura even said that they had him busy on other projects. 13-2 was not hard to make. it had existinng software and the same battle system.

do some research buddy. Nomura's team for Versus is not only the team for KH, but most of square.

Nomura was busy before on KH BBS, Crisis core, dissidia 1 and 2, KH dream drop distance, world ends with you, KH 358/2 days, KH recoded, as well as 13-2 and some help with 14 (2.0)

don't ignore the other games and think they made them self. No offense

[DragonKnight]

Sorry but that's wrong. Nomura's team have nothing to do with FF14. The resources WERE for FF13-2 as FF14 was already being worked on before 13-2 existed. Just because you have location resources finished doesn't mean you have everything ready right away.

[raiden-49]

@DragonKnight
FF13-2 was mostly made that's why it came out so fast it was the content that was left out of ff13 because of the change of going muliplatform for the game as it was in development for over 5 years prior.

[Ranma1]

Well if they want to go back to their roots, they are doing the right thing.

"If it aint broken, dont break it", and thats what SE did to the FF franchise.

Nice to know they are trying to fix it

[miyamoto]

so does that mean its just on one disc? or M$ is hard timing them again to release it on 360 that why its taking them too long again?

[Jazz4108]

The reason its taking so long is most likley the ps3 having a hard time handeling a open world ram intensive game with good detail in the graphics. The ps3 has shown time and time again unless you go linear or cover up poor textures its very hard to get a game up and running on the ps3 as it bottleneck ram and gpu and its hard to program cell have made many devs have to get creative with partial mandatory game installs and repeating the same code over several areas of the bluray disc to help improve performance. I do hope square will get some help from sony and see if there is away to get this game still out before next gen.

[Games4M - Rob]

dunno about that - Infamous 2 looked pretty good

[MuhammadJA]

All the over-hyping could lead to disappointments.

[Jaces]

I'm going to completely disown the FF series if Versus doesn't deliver. The last good FF game was X, I need something that will remind me why I loved Final Fantasy so much, please Nomura make it happen!

[doogiebear]

Dude quit holding your breath. Have you tried Persona 3 or 4? Those games are taking jrpg's to the next level. You can find persona 3 as a ps2 classic on psn. The stories are also unrelated like each final fantasy, so u don't have to play 1 and 2 to play persona 3. Square sucks so bad lately, that they've even been screing up their Kingdom Hearts games (a series I liked a lot).

Try persona, its the highest rated jrpg series on metacritic. Check out some video reviews for Persona 3 before you play Persona 4. Part 3 is a little darker of a story.

[NastyLeftHook0]

I hope it releases this year as a ps3 exclusive.

[Furesis]

so do i softube.. so do i but sometimes things just don't go the way you want them to

[HammadTheBeast]

Wait... is your username "ten tons of tube" or "ten ton soft tube?

[NastyLeftHook0]

both

[TheRealHeisenberg]

Wishful thinking on both parts. It is not releasing this year and it will also be on the Xbox platform when it does. That's why it is taking so long. It will still be a quality game and more will get to enjoy it. Not instigating here but I'm sure most will see it that way.

[stonecold3]

wont be coming to the 360 nomura is a huge sony fanboy people need to stop askibng for a 360 port because its not going to be released on xbox

[Snookies12]

@stonecold3 - He's not a fanboy per se, rather he saw the issues Final Fantasy XIII had with mutli-platform in the case of the 360 version looking bad in comparison. So he said he wouldn't be doing multi-platform on his games. However he did say he would think about porting later on, so there's that...

[Unlimax]

Nomura Wants the game to be Exclusive for Sony .. While wada thinking how to make this multiplatform in any form !

So stupid how the gaming industry become these days , everyones following their greedy plans !

[Unlimax]

Nomura Wants the game to be Exclusive for Sony .. While wada thinking how to make this game a multiplatform in any form !

So stupid how the gaming industry become these days , everyones following their greedy plans !

[jc48573]

what's with this sudden hype Wada is trying to create?

[Lucretia]

maybe they will show us more soon since the square show is supposed to be soon :P

[sjaakiejj]

expect it to show up at TGS with a release date.

[Capt-FuzzyPants]

There's an FF Aniversary event going on so he's probably getting asked about everywhere he goes and he has to say something, but since they have a specific date to talk about Versus he won't say anything about the game except wait. All I want to know now is when will they show it. It seems to be at TGS in a couple of weeks right now.

[KillerPwned]

I could really see this being the last big game we see on the PS3 along with MGS 5. Think about it on a current gen console using the PS3 to its max potential. Think about how great the environments, airships, towns ect will look like.

That has to take a lot of work and time. I want this game ASAP but I am willing to wait as long as it comes this gen.

[HammadTheBeast]

Last of Us bro. Right up with them. Naughty Dog's final PS3 masterpiece.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Last Of Us looks to be a great game, FF Versus looks to be an epic staple for JRPGS this gen. I like action games too, but they grow better and better each gen, RPGS a lot of times take a very long number of years before they are out done (in some peoples opinions some older RPGs are near perfect)

I like Last Of Us, but its sequel will likely blow it out of the water, but with a game like FF Versus, its going to be a gem for quite a while. And this is truly if the game still has an open world map, Airships, towns etc. Its a game on a whole nother level.

[SolidDuck]

I hope it gives me that, damn it finally came out feeling.

[rataranian]

Yeah nostalgic as in when we all are 62 sitting around going "Remember when SE was supposed to come out with that FF Versus game? Oh those were the days."

[PhunnyJesta]

and we are still going to wonder if FF13-28 is going to improve from the previous versions

[-Gespenst-]

I feel like they've been working hard to achieve that with this. I don't care what anyone says, I'm still as excited for this game as I've ever been.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

For how long its taking they just might make Versus better than VII or atleast the same caliber as the PSONE final fantasys. Its problly gonna be a spring/summer 2013 release imo but thats still a LONG SHOT.

[black911]

To start Off it has to be a PlayStation Exclusive.

[NastyLeftHook0]

i agree, i dont want them compromising taking out towns ect...

[baodeus]

U haven't play any RPG games on 360 haven't you?

[Ritsujun]

baodeus obviously hasn't played any ps3-exclu RPG
i own all the current gen consoles/handheldconsoles except Wii

[baodeus]

Valkyri chronical, demon soul, ff13, wkc (but it sucks), desgea? And that one game where u absorb monster and use their power forgot the name

Games with amazing scale, towns, etc, and looks really good: lost odyssey, red dead redemption, witcher 2, fallout, skyrim, fable 2,3 ( not to mention can custom every house u own in table) dark soul, star ocean, just cause, ff13-2...most on one disk no?

so can u name some ps3 exclusive rpg/open world/ sandbox that are large scale and looks better than any of those those mentioned? I'm waiting....

[Ragnaarock]

@Baodeus
All the games you listed except Lost Odyssey and Fable are not exclusive games so you have 3 exclusives for Xbox compared to the 5 exclusives you listed for PS3.

You can add games like 3D dot Heroes, The Yakuza games, Tales of Grace F, Atelier Totori: Adventurer of Arland,and others that will be releasing soon like tales of xilia(already in japan) or Ni no kuni. There are probably more but I don't feel like wasting more time.

[ShinraE5]

Are you serious?

FF13 was close to completion before MS got it to be held back and to be made multiplatform.

Meaning, the lack of freedom, the linearity, etc was all determined and brought into being before the "big bad" MS got their hands on it.

FF13 was meh becasue of SE and it wouldn't have been any better if it was a PS3 exlusive, it simply would have been out sooner.

[_Aarix_]

@tentonsoftube

I wonder how people like you even get taken seriously, if its exclusive then it won't get as many sells and then not as much support, a game that long in development needs all the support it can, plus final fantasy deserves a wider fanbase

the only thing that the ps3 has technially over the Xbox is bluray. I have seen nothing on the ps3 that Wasn't possible on the 360. It's 2012 and games are starting to show that now.

Oh and lost odyssey IS the real final fantasy this gen.

In the age of technology, ignorance is a choice

[Donnywho]

Versus is like waiting for a battle to start in FF9. They spin you around in circles forever.

[maximus1985]

lol only in this circle lightning keeps fisting you and asking for your patience.

[Knightofelemia]

I'll be the judge if the game gives me a nostolgic FF feeling. Each game gave me a different FF nostolgic feeling based on the story and the characters and the events. Right now the wait for the game is not giving me the classic FF feeling for the game. Right now the wait if giving me the feeling of another new game coming out ready to play feeling.

[PooEgg]

Shouldn't they want ALL of their FF games to give us that nostalgic this is FF feeling? If it doesn't do that why bother calling it a Final Fantasy. And why is SquareSoft putting out so many games using XIII isn't it considered an unlucky number? They have XIII, XIII-2, Versus XIII, and now even XIII-3???

[Snookies12]

He's saying FFXIII series hasn't done that is all. This one is supposed to redeem the series' name.

[Gamer-Z]

I have a bad feeling this game is taking so long because they are trying to port it to the Xbox 360 and if so they are cutting out content :/

[MoreRPG]

Nah it will be one of the xbox720 lounch titles
Anyway i hope they show some gameplay soon

[tiffac008]

Lets hope so and I hope the true ending isn't on a DLC.

[kcuthbertson]

I want it to give me the same feeling that FFX did when it came out on PS2. It literally drew me into itself. I couldn't put it down, and it looked so beautiful at the time. I just haven't felt the same about any FF since.

[Ashriel]

PLEASE release on PS3, I bought my console back in 2009 thinking about this game!!!!

[jokia005]

Wada is really as*hole.
i remember Nomura saying 'its ready to show but something not related to V13 is disturbing'.
what the f*ck

[cozeh]

Vintage idiot americans being so impatient.

[maximus1985]

is that you nomura!? hurry the hell up my childhood is suffering!

[Marugo]

this game is oozing on expectations..hope it won't dissapoint everyone.

[Summons75]

It will only disappoint those with nostalgia goggles on. Prime example FF13, wasn't any different from a normal ATB battle system besides it being faster and people still raged.

[thedisagreefairy]

i have a feeling that versus is a remake of ff7...

[Omnislash]

I want that feel too... I hope this game stays true to its roots.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

NO! I don't want this to feel like Final Fantasy! I want this to feel like a new, original masterpiece! I'm starting to lose faith in Nomura, especially after Dream Drop Distance. :/

[9thWonder]

FF XIII sequels development is killing the hype behind FF Versus XIII or whats left of it so what even if the game is a hit ppl might not be interested in the game as they once were like a year ago when they saw the 1 or 2 trailers of the game -_-

[bakasora]

Yes please

[TheLyonKing]

In the program for the 25th anniversary it's just written versus. Name change?

I can wait a bit more but if tgs brings a nO show I won't be happy. Square is like a child who keeps forgetting to do its homework and I am getting one angry teacher.

[StreetsofRage]

Too Late... Lost Odyssey already did that.

[PirateThom]

That game its self is almost 5 years old... wow.

[d3nworth1]

Thats all I wanted. Not for the strip down like FF13

[Genmu]

ff versus enough said

screw ff13 and cheap ass boring lighting cloud wannabe

[lorcraven]

I'd say this ultra long wait better be worth it, but then I remember who I'm talking to.

[Smokingunz]

I've pretty much given up on this game a long time ago! I really don't care if it comes out or not. I guess at this point it would make more sense to just put it out on next gen consoles.

[abcd]

Versus XIII? People blame FF XIII team instead of Nomura and his team.

Really? Versus XIII is being developed by KH team. Lightning Returns is being developed by FF XIII team. I don't know why people can't understand this.

I blame Nomura and his incompetence.

[Ingram]

Key words, please note:

Wada: "We'll show it WHEN it has that FF feeling" (Implying It still does NOT feel like a good FF)

Hashimoto: "The game is SUPPOSED TO BE incredibly amazing"

And this is coming from Squeenix!!, notice they didn't say things like "This is our best FF yet" or "Fans are gonna love it" or "It will be worth the wait"; them bastards started making the game just a year ago or so and they're just working overtime and not inspired enough!. Mark my words, expect lame.

What a disgrace, at this point you might as well kill FF, Squeenix, you're steadily destroying the franchise already anyway.

[ChidoriSnake22]

The reason why they didn't say any of that is because for once in a goddamn decade, they're not planning on feeding us bullshit and are actually trying to restore and breathe new life into Final Fantasy's former glory. Let them take their time, damnit!

[Ingram]

So, trying to restore and breathe new life is creating XIV which is a dull mess and announcing 2 spinoffs of the most unwanted, unasked for instalment in the series, huh?

Squeenix is CGI & Marketing central, they couldn't make a proper FF to save their rear and it shows.
They've licensed UE3 for pete's sake, there's 3 real game designers and programmers, the rest of SE is a batallion composed of 50.000 art monkeys designing CGI, jewelry and posh clothes.

And by "let them take their time" what do you mean at this point!? successful 10 year development cycles don't exist, they just were on hiatus until a year and a half ago, they're not polishing it "Kubrick" style, it never was about perfectionism, it was about business priorities all along.

They're planning on feeding us BS alright, they've publicly announced their intention to do so, don't you see?

[maximus1985]

when exactly is the next TGS?

[Tigerfist]

“When it reaches the level where it gives you that nostalgic, “this is Final Fantasy!” feeling, I want to show it to everyone.”

Changing the gameplay eh?

Yes please, otherwise I'll never feel that. I don't want to play a bloody "Kingdom Hearts Versus XIII"...

[dragonrage00]

i highly doubt it. it might have an open word design but its too action oriented to bring any "nostalgic" feelings. most of the fans expecting this to "bring the series back on track" will eventually rage against it because its too different from what they are used to.

[ChidoriSnake22]

Well, frankly all of that is up 2 SE, not fans. We're trying to bring things into a positive light. I believe that if we go about this positively, no one will be disappointed. I'm not overrating the game before its release, I'm just hoping for the best, yet preparing for the worst.

[Tzuno]

From the gameplay that i saw there is nothing like: "this is FF feeling”. It's more like a futuristic gay team against robots. No hate but they are looooooong from FF series.

[ChidoriSnake22]

This game is starting to look like it has the potential to truly be the Final Fantasy VII of this generation. As for everyone else that says "you don't understand the gaming industry", stfu because most of you really think you know, but you dunno shit! I'll be honest, I don't either, but at least I have the fucking balls to agree to disagree! I wouldn't count FFV13 out too quickly, seeing as how. It is supposed to be somewhat nostalgic in its own right. And trust and believe, with all the bullshit new crap they did in FF13 series, seriously couldn't hurt to go back to their roots a little and mix it with a modern style. Final Fantasy meets Kingdom Hearts...that's a gameplay system I've been aching to see for YEARS! P.S. Thumbs up if you support KH3 and Chrono 3!